according to this guy all's going to b allright
I wish the Evo was getting it!
-Kendall
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I wish the Evo was getting it!
-Kendall
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it is, isn't it? I see it mentioned in the list..
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it is, isn't it? I see it mentioned in the list..
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Sorry, I mean the Evo 4G. The Evo 3D is getting it
-Kendall
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Wait who's this guy?
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Wait who's this guy?
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+1. I would like to know who this gent is as well. I hope that list is correct. Interesting the thunderbolt isn't on the list.
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Wait who's this guy?
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apparently some guy who works (worked?) for HTC as a Sense developer.
Well after this awesome update to hc (rather lack there of) I am very weary of any news about an ics update for our device
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I hope this is true. I suppose there might be an argument that since this is one of the few tablets with a pen, an ICS update (with more pen-utilizing code) would show off its capabilities better. And maybe the delay in HC is that internally within HTC a shift toward ICS was decided upon to save resources. Well, here's hoping. I would prefer ICS over HC, especially for the pen capabilities.
Well there you have it. We are saved. . If this guy says it, it must be true.
By the way, Acer and Motorola have announced January ICS updates to tne A100 and A500 and Xoom
Yeah, we'll get it when Jello Mold (or whatever) comes out.
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Yeah, we'll get it when Jello Mold (or whatever) comes out.
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LOL yeah then they will get sued for copyright!
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Check this out - a Sense UI developer, Rasiwasia Samarth, is reporting that the Flyer is on the ICS update list (his opinion):
http://www.netbooknews.com/37668/htc-flyer-gets-android-4-0-phones-get-5gb-of-online-storage/
Sadly that's a link to a 'news' website, who has picked on the same Google+ posting that starts this thread.
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Check this out - a Sense UI developer, Rasiwasia Samarth, is reporting that the Flyer is on the ICS update list (his opinion):
http://www.netbooknews.com/37668/htc-flyer-gets-android-4-0-phones-get-5gb-of-online-storage/
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Uhhh dude. This is discussed in the first post. Check the link.
Futhermore, take this list with a grain of salt. The Nexus One is also on his list and engadget just reported that the Nexus One will not be recieving the upgrade.
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Agree, take it with a pinch of salt.
I'd be surprised that HTC allow employees to publish that kind of information, when it's not saying anything publically at the moment.
I realise that he does say that this is his opinion, but if really a "Sense" developer that opinion would have to have been formed based on "inside" information, and hence I'd have thought he wouldn't be 'employee of the month' at the moment.
Untrusting in me, suspects the his/her closest connection to HTC is ownership of a device.....but I'd have to add that this is his/her only post that I've seen. There maybe posts which would give more crediblity to their claims.
Iain
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Agree, take it with a pinch of salt.
I'd be surprised that HTC allow employees to publish that kind of information, when it's not saying anything publically at the moment.
Iain
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Why don't these companies make it public if they are working on a update? I really don't see harm in it. This hard to get game drives me further away from them. Specially when a device comes out and they promise so much with it and then once they pocket your bucks, they some what push you away or forget about you.
"BAD HTC. You big player now? so you think you treat your customers bad! This will only bring your downfall. You climb too fast and you lose your grip - you fall fast and you fall hard. I for one wont be there with life net if you keep treating me like this".
Sorry for expressing my compressed anger at htc here. I dont have fb account to message them there.
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Uhhh dude. This is discussed in the first post. Check the link.
Futhermore, take this list with a grain of salt. The Nexus One is also on his list and engadget just reported that the Nexus One will not be recieving the upgrade.
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My apologies to all for being so dumb...and polyanna...and hopeful...and assuming that since a working alpha of HC was in the wild it made perfect sense that HTC would switch resources for the cross platform (smartphone & tablet) ICS version of Android...no intention to insult your collective intellligence...
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My apologies to all for being so dumb...and polyanna...and hopeful...and assuming that since a working alpha of HC was in the wild it made perfect sense that HTC would switch resources for the cross platform (smartphone & tablet) ICS version of Android...no intention to insult your collective intellligence...
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No, I agree it makes sense to switch to ICS but they should communicate with their customers in some official form. This way we won't get our hopes up when some guy posts a "maybe" list on his google+ page.
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HTC Sense + ICS might be an overkill...
I would be just happy with a sense-less ICS running on the flyer. CM team needs to add this baby to their arsenal.
Related
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/08/28/cyanogenmod-7-makes-its-way-to-the-hp-touchpad/
Lol read still a long way to go. ... try again
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Lol read still a long way to go. ... try again
E3D
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Lol...read the paragraph cheesy. Android was ported what a week ago. Cm7 in another week. Still waiting on fully functioning on 3d. Kudos to them, but I think they got more incentive to put android on Touchpad
Not to mention 2.3.5
Who knows, this may help us. To my knowledge, the touchpad and the Evo 3D share the same chipset.
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Awesome news....can't wait to have this on the touchpad...as the web OS kinda sucks in my opinion.....now how am I gonna get it back from the wife ?
Ulllllllllllltttrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M2cFX7hvdc
HTC Evo 3D has had CM7 on it since at least Aug 2. Sure the video is of the HTC Sensation but the Evo 3D is at the same point.
Why must people continue to post garbage?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M2cFX7hvdc
HTC Evo 3D has had CM7 on it since at least Aug 2. Sure the video is of the HTC Sensation but the Evo 3D is at the same point.
Why must people continue to post garbage?
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I'm pretty sure we've all known/seen that. What else you got? Lol
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I'm pretty sure we've all known/seen that. What else you got? Lol
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The title of the thread clearly states that the TouchPad is getting CM7 before us when it clearly hasn't.
If this is a troll thread then you have massively failed in your endeavor.
If this isn't a troll thread then you have massively failed in your endeavor.
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The title of the thread clearly states that the TouchPad is getting CM7 before us when it clearly hasn't.
If this is a troll thread then you have massively failed in your endeavor.
If this isn't a troll thread then you have massively failed in your endeavor.
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Yea I did this to troll.....dumbass, check my ****, see if I troll. Move along
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Yea I did this to troll.....dumbass, check my ****, see if I troll. Move along
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Since when did name calling become relevant? I never called you any. I'm simply stating that you have created a thread with a title that doesn't make any sense. How did the TouchPad get CM7 before the Evo 3D when it didn't?
What are you trying to accomplish?
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Since when did name calling become relevant? I never called you any. I'm simply stating that you have created a thread with a title that doesn't make any sense. How did the TouchPad get CM7 before the Evo 3D when it didn't?
What are you trying to accomplish?
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I guess the name calling was going to intimidate you or something lmao.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M2cFX7hvdc
HTC Evo 3D has had CM7 on it since at least Aug 2. Sure the video is of the HTC Sensation but the Evo 3D is at the same point.
Why must people continue to post garbage?
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This statement is ABSOLUTELY untrue. (unfortunately).
The evo3d has not gotten CM7, not an official build, not even a sniff of it on their GIT. (and the kanged copies that you might be talking about are not very functional at that.)
Actually, the touchpad WILL have an official build of CM7 before we do, and that "official" project was confirmed by team cyanogenmod itself, and it's all over the web, so the OP is absolutely correct.
Those guys freaking LOVE to prove to the world that they can get CM to run on a device where it shouldnt. They get off on that sh*t. It happened before with the Nook Color.
This week, the HP touchpad is the new Nook Color.
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This statement is ABSOLUTELY untrue. (unfortunately).
The evo3d has not gotten CM7, not an official build, not even a sniff of it on their GIT. (and the kanged copies that you might be talking about are not very functional at that.)
Actually, the touchpad WILL have an official build of CM7 before we do, and that "official" project was confirmed by team cyanogenmod itself, and it's all over the web, so the OP is absolutely correct.
Those guys freaking LOVE to prove to the world that they can get CM to run on a device where it shouldnt. They get off on that sh*t. It happened before with the Nook Color.
This week, the HP touchpad is the new Nook Color.
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QFT.
They have more of an incentive to show off to the tech world that CM7 is running on a pretty powerful tab that does specifically WebOS.
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QFT.
They have more of an incentive to show off to the tech world that CM7 is running on a pretty powerful tab that does specifically WebOS.
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Agreed.
I just couldn't believe the OP was getting bashed for simply stating the truth.
And 'we've had cyanogenmod since August 2'???
I missed that memo COMPLETELY.
Maybe I don't spend enough time on XDA.
(How I wish that was even remotely true)
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I just want cm7 on one of my devices so ill be happy with either one getting it
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Why the f would anyone want to run a none tablet os on a tablet in the first place? Honeycomb would be MUCH better.
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Why the f would anyone want to run a none tablet os on a tablet in the first place? Honeycomb would be MUCH better.
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Google hasn't released the source code for Honeycomb yet, that's why it isn't on any device except ones you purchase in the store.
But you already knew that
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Why the f would anyone want to run a none tablet os on a tablet in the first place? Honeycomb would be MUCH better.
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As long as flash video isn't "your bag, baby", that's probably true, lol.
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This statement is ABSOLUTELY untrue. (unfortunately).
The evo3d has not gotten CM7, not an official build, not even a sniff of it on their GIT. (and the kanged copies that you might be talking about are not very functional at that.)
Actually, the touchpad WILL have an official build of CM7 before we do, and that "official" project was confirmed by team cyanogenmod itself, and it's all over the web, so the OP is absolutely correct.
Those guys freaking LOVE to prove to the world that they can get CM to run on a device where it shouldnt. They get off on that sh*t. It happened before with the Nook Color.
This week, the HP touchpad is the new Nook Color.
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several of the devs working on the evo 3d release of cm7 have been hinting at a release in the very near future.
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cm7 will be here soon. I ran it on my og droid, mytouch 3g slide, g2 and honestly I cannot wait for it to drop on the 3d. However, I havent fully grown tired of sense just yet....almost though.
SO who's gonna be upgrading to the Amaze 4G ??
I wouldn't mind.. but will wait a little. Still like my MYTOUCH 4G. Just upset with t-mobile service.. highly disappointed.
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In order for me to purchase another device it has to be rooted with s off already accomplished. I love the mt4g way to much right now.
Nah, even if it was rooted. Even though the specs are a little bit better than the Sensation I'd still rather get the Sensation because all of the good devs already jumped to the Sensation.
I'd be surprised if a lot of devs went to the Amaze. Probably going to be a similar situation with the SGS4G when all of the devs were already on the Vibrant, no point in getting the SGS4G.
Good phone though, just wish that's what HTC did with the Sensation. The 1GB of RAM and better camera is nice.
Nope. The specs are all that. I'd need more to make me jump to a new phone.
ill prolly pick it up, but not when it first comes out. i love my phone but id like to have something with a little bigger screen and soft keys
The device just looks so damn good though. I'm thinking about it hard.
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I hope the reported weight is wrong.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4097&idPhone2=3922
Sensation is only 148 g, but Amaze/Ruby is 172.9 g?? Seems unwieldy.
Weight ain't an issue for me. Weight will make it feel even sturdier.
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Weight ain't an issue for me. Weight will make it feel even sturdier.
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I guess everyone has their preferences. For me, a heavy phone has additional associated costs in terms of the jeans pockets that will get worn out!
cmstlist said:
I guess everyone has their preferences. For me, a heavy phone has additional associated costs in terms of the jeans pockets that will get worn out!
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Then wear dickies...kidding lol.
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I hope the reported weight is wrong.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4097&idPhone2=3922
Sensation is only 148 g, but Amaze/Ruby is 172.9 g?? Seems unwieldy.
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Could be due to the extra 210mA's in the Amaze's battery?
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Nope. The specs are all that. I'd need more to make me jump to a new phone.
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+1
Specs isn't the only important thing....The G2X had good HW, but had some hw flaws like bleeding among other things.
Personally, this close to the launch of Ice Cream Sandwich, I'd be inclined to wait until HTC's first ICS phone. Or until CM8 has a stable release for a device of choice
I'm gonna wait for the nexus prime.
cray.
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Personally, this close to the launch of Ice Cream Sandwich, I'd be inclined to wait until HTC's first ICS phone. Or until CM8 has a stable release for a device of choice
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i don't think there will be a CM8 as the developer of cyanogenmod has gone to work at Samsung.
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i don't think there will be a CM8 as the developer of cyanogenmod has gone to work at Samsung.
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Steve still works with CM, it's just a separate project now, it may have less work from cyan himself. However you can't forget that CM has a large amount of devs, Cyan has help from others so I doubt they would actually allow CM brand to die off like this.
Well perhaps working at Sammy will give Steve a chance to make sure ICS reaches other their other phones quickly
Considering that CM just announced it would support 10 new Sony Ericsson devices, I take that as a sign that we won't see CM winding down anytime soon.
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Well perhaps working at Sammy will give Steve a chance to make sure ICS reaches other their other phones quickly
Considering that CM just announced it would support 10 new Sony Ericsson devices, I take that as a sign that we won't see CM winding down anytime soon.
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Since Steve works with Sammy now I'm thinking that he could be learning new or different tweaks, Sammy should have some sort of ICS access (Sammy should have it by now) depending on his job position; so maybe he can work on CM8 slightly earlier. Personally I'm not to thrilled about ICS, after seeing that NexusS w/ "ICS"....It looked nothing like I thought, I figured Google would step it up to fend off iOS5/WP7.5(Mango). But it doesn't seem like much of a UI overhaul, but I'm sure the usability/features have been significantly changed.
I've been sitting on an upgrade since last month so I'm going to use in on the Amaze, even though I was planning to use it on the Sensation.
So guys since all revolves around the buck, i think that we should start a e.g kickstarter for htc flyer ICS or jelly bean update, if we get a reasonable found htc could make it for us..
I shall send them a email asking what they think about it and how much would they need, kep you updated
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Xxul said:
So guys since al revolves around the buck, i think that we should start a e.g kickstarter for htc flyer ICS or jelly bean update, if we get a reasonable found htc could make it for us..
I shall send them a email asking what they thing about it and how much wouldbthey need, kep you updated
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Seems like a neat idea. Hope you are able to work it out.
Problem would be that they would never say that it's about cost, because they have already said that it is about performance, at least through unofficial channels.....
Best of luck!
I think something in the range of $10 million US would be a good starting point for HTC. Considering they paid $300 million for a glorified equalizer (Beats).
What are we doing exactly? I'm confused
I think the proposal is to pay HTC to support their own device !
I don't think it will work.
It will be funny to see what they say though - cos' they should be ashamed....
Top marks to the OP for taking the game back to HTC ...
Lol I don't think all 250 of us will be able to raise enough money
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Yea...um...Nexus 7 anyone?
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I'll be getting one eventually but in the meantime think its time to just make the most out of what we have with the flyer. Senseless, the best honeycomb rom, and LISBON, the only AOSP ICS Rom we have. Could be worse, we could have Views lol.
Anyway for the time being lets all just give up on Jelly bean and focus on what we have. I've complained more than anyone, but I'm over that, I'm all about helping where ever I can to make sure the flyer experience doesn't suck. And besides, the whole portrait oriented nature of Jelly bean makes me kind of want to pass on it anyway.
I gotta thank Wadegeek for calling me out for being such a crybaby. Honestly the flyer is only as bad as you make it out to be. And updates are over-rated, a perfectly fast working honeycomb is as good as any ics or jellybean rom...well minus support for chrome that is lol.
and its just beyond time to give up on htc. The writing is on the wall, HTC is done making them, done supporting them, and betting their future on the one series. Any future updates will have to come from ourselves.
And seeing how little signatures we got on the petition shows why htc gave up on it. The flyer was a flop. Like the Apple Newton, Nintendo Virtual Boy, Sega Saturn, HD Radio its a flop. but difference is its open source android so we can do something about it.
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Cor-master said:
I'll be getting one eventually but in the meantime think its time to just make the most out of what we have with the flyer. Senseless, the best honeycomb rom, and LISBON, the only AOSP ICS Rom we have. Could be worse, we could have Views lol.
Anyway for the time being lets all just give up on Jelly bean and focus on what we have. I've complained more than anyone, but I'm over that, I'm all about helping where ever I can to make sure the flyer experience doesn't suck. And besides, the whole portrait oriented nature of Jelly bean makes me kind of want to pass on it anyway.
I gotta thank Wadegeek for calling me out for being such a crybaby. Honestly the flyer is only as bad as you make it out to be. And updates are over-rated, a perfectly fast working honeycomb is as good as any ics or jellybean rom...well minus support for chrome that is lol.
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Agree，all we need is a good enough rom that we can use everyday without turning into rage.
Senseless and lisbon is getting close to that. Forget HTC, they already get ride of the flyer.....I doubt whether the flyer team exist now.
Ok people time to grow up a bit. I don't get this endless rage against HTC for "ignoring" the Flyer, I really don't. You guys act like you got burned when HTC didn't update the Flyer to ICS, but last I checked they never promised they would. Nobody ever said "Oh yeah buy a Flyer/View, it'll get ICS." If somebody had told you that I'd get the anger, but I seriously doubt they did. So enough with the *****ing, and saying "HTC should be ashamed" crap, it's pointless and worthless. This is yet another thread that has gotten de-railed with it, so unless you guys have something to add to the kickstart effort take it to your own thread or PM or something.
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Ok people time to grow up a bit. I don't get this endless rage against HTC for "ignoring" the Flyer, I really don't. You guys act like you got burned when HTC didn't update the Flyer to ICS, but last I checked they never promised they would. Nobody ever said "Oh yeah buy a Flyer/View, it'll get ICS." If somebody had told you that I'd get the anger, but I seriously doubt they did. So enough with the *****ing, and saying "HTC should be ashamed" crap, it's pointless and worthless. This is yet another thread that has gotten de-railed with it, so unless you guys have something to add to the kickstart effort take it to your own thread or PM or something.
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"MOMMY WOW, I'M A BIG KID NOW"
on a side note please throw your money at my kickstart, I'm making an ICS Rom for the Nokia 8250.
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mectavo said:
Agree，all we need is a good enough rom that we can use everyday without turning into rage.
Senseless and lisbon is getting close to that. Forget HTC, they already get ride of the flyer.....I doubt whether the flyer team exist now.
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So should we.maby find a badass dev here at xda, pay him a few bills and let him make us a 100% working rom?
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SinisterModz said:
"MOMMY WOW, I'M A BIG KID NOW"
on a side note please throw your money at my kickstart, I'm making an ICS Rom for the Nokia 8250.
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Huh? Trying to make a point or something? I don't get it...
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So should we.maby find a badass dev here at xda, pay him a few bills and let him make us a 100% working rom?
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A lot of these guys have been there and done that, look in one of the DrewGaren threads. What's wrong with being a little patient and letting Chaosz-X do his thing? I mean if anyone around here deserves donations it's him.
I love android for allot of reasons. Roms and tweaking was and is a big one. I had a captivate which I loved but I sold it when my company decided to buy me an iPhone and pay my cell bill. I hate iOS and missed android so when best buy reduced the cost on the flyer I jumped on it. The flyer has been a disappointment flashing wise to me (no fault to the developers here, work much appreciated). On the other hand my flyer has paid for itself multiple times over and is used daily for streaming and it's mhl connection.
What I have learned is that I like htc build quality but that their support sucks and that IMO sense is a way too large, bloated, laggy android skin that makes development more of an issue.
Do I regret buying my flyer, no. Would I buy another htc device, unlikely. Do I expect that I will see versions of ics/jelly bean that work for my use, no. I am ok with that now, but the device fell short of my flashing addiction
sense sucks on the flyer because it's not the full sense you get from a phone, it's a special "sense 1.1 for tablets",and honeycomb is laggy naturally, it's pretty much a throw away os google came up with for a better tablet layout and combine sense with that and it's even worse. But honestly I love sense 3.6 on my vivid, theme support, and multiple homescreen layouts make sense great.
I like my flyer honestly. Getting caught up in the update thing can easily make you hate it but we got some good developers here that are working hard to improve it.
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What I have learned is that I like htc build quality but that their support sucks and that IMO sense is a way too large, bloated, laggy android skin that makes development more of an issue.
Do I regret buying my flyer, no. Would I buy another htc device, unlikely. Do I expect that I will see versions of ics/jelly bean that work for my use, no. I am ok with that now, but the device fell short of my flashing addiction
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+1.
HTC flyer awesome potential - the device IS capable of running ICS. HTC "added value" of HTC sense etc seems to have done a dis-service in terms of future upgrades.
It is ironic that more IOS users can run Chrome than Android. Why ? Cos you need ICS or greater and the HTCs of the world just won't support their products for even 18 - 24 months after release.
18 months is a long time in the tech world, and if I had a tablet that flopped like the Flyer I wouldn't be supporting it either. It's not worth their time or money to get ICS out for it, not when it's perfectly functional as is.
The real question is why did HTC even bother making it. It was more expensive than an ipad, had gingerbread instead of honeycomb, and a single core cpu. And they didnt market it bad, they just didnt market it period. But in hindsight really every android tab that came out at that time failed, mostly due to price. Up until this year the only other android tabs I saw other people have were the nook color and cheap Chinese tablets.
I guess I don't hold it against them for abandoning the Flyer anymore. It is what it is, android came to tablets before it was ready for tablets and failure was inevitable. I'd like to see them try again, maybe a one series tablet with sense 4 and an s pen.
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Btw the chrome thing does piss me off. Google needs to make that **** work with gingerbread and honeycomb at least. Google is quick to abandon previous versions of android but you sure don't see them pushing the manufacturers for updates
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We need RIL. Bug HTC and VZW for the kernel. #HTCUSA #VZW
Lets not, so we don't piss them off and ruin our chances.
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Lets not, so we don't piss them off and ruin our chances.
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Given that we have already received nothing from them, is there really anything to lose?
I mean, the only thing they can hold back is the ICS official ROM, but we already have that...
If they do release the official rom, they cannot legally hold back the kernel source. So, what can they do?
I seriously considered a few days ago what would happen if one of us kindly emailed HTC explaining everything and politely asking for the kernel source.
THEY CAN HAVE US ALL ARRESTED FOR INTERNETS HARASSMENT, CHARLES CARREON HAS FREE TIME NOW.
Actually, the only thing we can do is keep asking, hashtag it up gentlemen, but keep it CLASSY. Type like English is your first language. Though they do hate bad PR, totally going to put #HatesCustomers on the end.
It worked for allowing access to unlock the booloader.
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SirSigma said:
I seriously considered a few days ago what would happen if one of us kindly emailed HTC explaining everything and politely asking for the kernel source.
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Someone do this, please.
A2Aegis said:
Someone do this, please.
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Go right ahead
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Go right ahead
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Any advice what I should write?
VZW could give a **** less and bugging them will never result in anything positive development-wise; they will release on whatever schedule/circumstances suits them, customers be damned...but I'm all for pounding on HTC via social sites or other avenues, i.e. petitions, letters, etc.
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Any advice what I should write?
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Tell them how sense slows down the device and we want AOSP but that's only possible with source and you should probably tell them about all the drama that goes on around here because we don't have it, oh and all the devs leaving us
You nuts? You gotta at least tell them something they want to hear. Try something kind of like this:
To whom it may concern,
I am an aspiring Android developer and for years, I've absolutely loved Android devices from HTC. In fact, the Galaxy SIII, Nexus, and other competitor phones have zero appeal to me because I've always loved HTC. I don't feel comfortable with any other hardware manufacturer because I know I can always expect great design, ergonomics, and a manufacturer-designed user interface that makes sense (so much so that you guys even call it Sense).
My latest device is the HTC Rezound, but I upgraded before the One X and other devices were coming out because Verizon is the carrier in my area with the best signal quality. I love my Rezound because it reeks of the superb design and quality I can always expect from HTC. However, I like to develop on it as well, and I've recently hit a few snags because I lack the kernel source for the phone. So I ask as a loyal customer, could you please let me have it?
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Your fan,
[NAME HERE]
Their not going to release a ICS kernel source when it hasn't even officially been rolled out yet in my opinion. Hopefully when it is released they drop the source quickly.
HTC Rezound
Lol i never got them to release the cdma desire froyo source after 7 months after the update. However that was even more of a red headed step child than this phone lol.
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Sirsigma and people like home are the reason companies are even willing to read what customers say, I've written to HTC about this myself already and everyone should do the same.
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Lol i never got them to release the cdma desire froyo source after 7 months after the update. However that was even more of a red headed step child than this phone lol.
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7 MONTHS?! That should be illegal. What the hell was stopping them?
As for our source, I doubt they are allowed by Verizon to release anything before OTA drops. Which will not happen until their new cash cow (Droid Incredible 4G) has had time to move plenty of units. So... probably no sooner than 2 weeks from now. That's if you're optimistic.
"...reeks of the superb design and quality..."
Perhaps not the best choice of words, lol.
But seriously, thanks for trying. This is too good a phone for HTC to let ignominiously die.
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Lol i never got them to release the cdma desire froyo source after 7 months after the update. However that was even more of a red headed step child than this phone lol.
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There Desire is code named Runnymede? I think I've seen a few GB ports for the DInc 2 and Nexus One floating around...
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WookieFan said:
There Desire is code named Runnymede? I think I've seen a few GB ports for the DInc 2 and Nexus One floating around...
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I think desire hd is runnymede. Not the original one
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Okay, I sent them an email. I hope we actually hear back about this.
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/ Looks like we're hopefully getting JB after all
then consider our ability to provide updates to products from 2011.
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You reading the same thing I am, or are you projecting?
Not necessarily.... we meet the spec requirements, but they said that devices from 2011 would be met with consideration. Not exactly a guarantee. Plus, if we got sense 3.6 in the last update because our phone "couldn't handle" sense 4, why would they then update us to sense 4+? Okay, I'm ending my pessimistic post of the day now.
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It would be awesome, but I'm not holding my breath
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I hope that we do get JB, but considering the Thunderbolt is still waiting for ICS, I can't say that I am too optimistic.
But HTC phones will sometimes get two upgrades. The incredible did.
It's really up to Verizon to let it through, I would think. So it's more of a maybe, but I'm not so optimistic that it will happen. Hopefully the Rezound will get JB, though. I'd love me some stock Sense 4 for a change.
Not to be a pessimist, but I feel that there is pretty much 0 chance we'll get an official jb update. There weren't enough rezounds sold for HTC to care, and vzw makes it even harder on them. They aren't going to go through the effort. All the focus is on s4 devices . I'm crossing my fingers that any msm8660 device gets a JB update from HTC so we can pull from it.
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Why would HTC spend the money, time, and resources to create a JB ROM that runs Sense 3.6? They never promised more than ICS for the Rez as a selling point, so they owe us nothing.
They wouldn't give us a Sense 4 update because they have already stated in print that the Rezound doesn't have the hardware to run it. But that's only half true.
Of course, many of us are running some variation of Sense 4 now on our Rezounds. So while it is technically possible, some concessions had to be made. The Rezound can't do continuous camera shooting very well. Also, still image capture while shooting video is not possible. These features were a huge part of what made Sense 4 so great to HTC (conjecture on my part, but an educated guess based on the advertising), so their official stance on Sense 4 on the Rezound does make sense.
HTC releasing a 3.6 Jelly Bean Rom seems highly unlikely.
Hey the tb was updated to 3.6 in the leak from what like 2.1? But anyway we've technically already got 2 updates, 3 if you count the global leak...
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Why would HTC spend the money, time, and resources to create a JB ROM that runs Sense 3.6? They never promised more than ICS for the Rez as a selling point, so they owe us nothing.
They wouldn't give us a Sense 4 update because they have already stated in print that the Rezound doesn't have the hardware to run it. But that's only half true.
Of course, many of us are running some variation of Sense 4 now on our Rezounds. So while it is technically possible, some concessions had to be made. The Rezound can't do continuous camera shooting very well. Also, still image capture while shooting video is not possible. These features were a huge part of what made Sense 4 so great to HTC (conjecture on my part, but an educated guess based on the advertising), so their official stance on Sense 4 on the Rezound does make sense.
HTC releasing a 3.6 Jelly Bean Rom seems highly unlikely.
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Nobody here mentioned HTC owing us anything, I just posted a statement by HTC.....
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Hey the tb was updated to 3.6 in the leak from what like 2.1? But anyway we've technically already got 2 updates, 3 if you count the global leak...
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He meant 2 android version bumps. The Dinc has had like 1,000 minor updates
I really don't think htc would even consider trying to update the rezound. It would require so much work. lets just hope chad can pull it off!
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Nobody here mentioned HTC owing us anything, I just posted a statement by HTC.....
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Yeah I know. Sorry if I came off as hateful or anything. I guess I was just curious as to how anyone who read that statement would interpret it to mean that they were most likely gonna update the Rez to JB.
I got the opposite impression. Guess it's just a glass half-full/empty thing. :beer:
If they did upgrade us to a JB (not Justin Bieber) then I'd be beyond excited and looking forward to what awesome surprises our glorious devs here would be able to come up with.
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I really don't think htc would even consider trying to update the rezound. It would require so much work. lets just hope chad can pull it off!
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He already has pulled it off, I'm running jb right now. though its not 100% yet, its pretty good as is now.
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He already has pulled it off, I'm running jb right now. though its not 100% yet, its pretty good as is now.
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pretty close to it though! awesome stuff... it just seems to be missing something.... i know! butter!
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pretty close to it though! awesome stuff... it just seems to be missing something.... i know! butter!
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Yea, thats pretty much all that is missing but from what i understand i think chad is already close to having ION put in which is supposed to make it alot smoother.
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Yea, thats pretty much all that is missing but from what i understand i think chad is already close to having ION put in which is supposed to make it alot smoother.
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hey i see in your signature thing that youre underclocked and undervolted. does that -150 make a big difference in battery life?
An update to JB would convince me to buy another HTC device instead of going back to Samsung. I miss the OLED screen.
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