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I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
* please note voodoo is not enabled, if you have voodoo, disable it before flashing if you don't odin back to jfd first.
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
Question remains, is voodoo necessary?
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I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Good question! I was actually wondering this the other day. I tried a few different ROMs without lagfix.
I was wondering the same thing about it. "Is lagfix just a workaround to cheat higher quadrant scores?"
After a day or so on any ROM I tried without lagfix you would notice a slow down mainly in shutting down programs. Sometimes they would take up to 5 seconds to close! Opening programs slowed some but not nearly as noticeable. The dialer would take some time to open as well.
So in my experience lagfix seems to speed the phone in read/write capabilities. Which I imagine is what it was desinged for. You notice in Quadrant, that is where the most improvement is (In I/O).
So if you arent a real big phone geek (like most of us probably are) then the lagfix shouldnt make a huge difference to you. But, for me, I like my phone to fly doing anything. So lagfix enabled here!
It's not all about the speed. Its good to have a standard. This phone should've been on ext4 from the start. Supercurio has done a great job getting everyone switched over. I don't believe rfs is supported in cwm3+ either.
Just my opinion. I always use it. If I flash something else its an easy fix. Just flash an ext4 compatible kernel!
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I just reread your post, and I've never had a problem restoring backups. In fact, I flashed to an i9k Gingerbread ROM this morning, played around with it for a while (read: smashed my face against the gps), flashed a Froyo kernel and restored my nandroid without ever using ODIN or RFS
rfs = sux ballz (wen i first got my phone and started rooting one of the first things out of my mouth was wtf is rfs!)
ext4 = ahh, thats btr
I agree that stock felt oddly similar with voodoo enabled and disabled when i tried it for a day yesterday.
I disagree that you cant restore nandroids with CwMRecovery. For me it seems like its hit and miss which i'm gonna continue to test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13284392#post13284392
Don't get me wrong....
Like I said, I love Voodoo.. I've only considered EXT4 and it is my preference... thought I made that clear.
BUT, I have not noticed any difference with it vs. using jellette's ROM, and that is really surprising to me. I know it can tend to "slow down" over time (which I do not understand why).. but changing from app to app I am noticing no difference.
Regarding restoring backups....
I said that because the man himself made THIS COMMENT just yesterday. I have had issues in the past (5 x maybe) where a restore failed, never knowing why. I've also had them restore fine, not sure why the difference.
s15274n said:
I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Thanks for the info on Jelletts ROM. I am definitely going to try it out. I don't know about voodoo will test your theory for myself but kudos to Supercurio and the wonders he has made for us in the mean time.
I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I understood you perfectly.. just didn't want others to think I was trying to say something I was not. Thanks man.
Talked to Ben Buchacher, you know the creator of SuperD.
I asked him what ROM and if he had lagfix.
He said he was using stock 2.2 and no lagfix, the lag went away in 2.2
PS he said TW ROMs weren't great.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Yea! A long time ago.
He is waiting for cm7 to get stable to start working
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
You keep saying your using his rom, but which one are you referring to in hist thread? there is a 2.2.1 and a 2.2
I tried the 2.2 and it was laggy like the stock 2.2 and I have taken my phone all the way back to closed box and brought it up to 2.2(KB5) and there is always lag there. I don't mind Touchwiz but when a couple weeks go by and my phone starts crawling across the ground like a drunken sailor it gets a little aggravating.
Basically in my experience any rom, and I mean any, with or without voodoo runs great for a few weeks, but then the slowness comes back and you start to notice apps taking longer to open and close, MMS really starts to lag as well as the keyboard when typing. the gallery really takes a hit and showing pictures off on my 500 dollar 1Ghz phone becomes embarrassing. So with or without voodoo stock 2.2 on the Vibrant seems to run great but runs out of gas in a few weeks, some may last a month. 2.2.1(sucks with no Wifi calling) seems to keep going much better, and the browser is faster. So if your running 2.2.1 of his then yea you might see a better faster rom, but if you run his 2.2 I bet after a few weeks of regular use you will start seeing lag and get frustrated. And I bet even the 2.2.1 will start to crawl at some point.
Now I'm not dissing his rom or anyone else's. They are all based off of the crap the Samsung shoved out the door and yea a few tweaks here and there help, but every rom always seems to start crawling at some point and nothing seems to bring it back to day one other then reflashing.
Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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which rom are you running the 2.2.1 or 2.2
The only thing really keeping me on 2.2 roms is wifi calling.
I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I have gotten that on quite a few roms including two versions of trigger and three stock builds. I get out of it by pressing the power button 3-5 times giving about 1-2 seconds between presses and it eventually came back.
I might try the 2.2 build out eventually.
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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I'm not a fan of putting anyones work down.. especially when it's free/
I once knew a dog by the name of Raphael Francisco Sanchez. He pooped in the same place everyday, and then walked through it like the dumb mutt he was. Over time the poop built up till eventually the dog could no longer run and play with all the other little doggies, and when the lawnmower came around that spring, Raphael Francisco Sanchez barked his last bark.
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Ok guys. So I was excited like a school girl waiting for a Justin Bieber concert when the sbf for the latest 2.3.4 OTA was released. I rushed to my wife's windows laptop and started up RSD lite, loaded up the sbf, and plugged my phone while it was on thee RSD Protocol mode. A bit of background info first, I had been running the 2.3.3 stock since I got the phone over a month ago. I had painstakingly removed all the bloat and was very happy with the way my phone was running. I had a DINC before and I was appreciating the bigger higher res screen. Anyways, so I though when you install sbf on your phone, it takes it back to factory stock with the root gone (obviously) and with all the bloatware and crapware back on the phone. So anyways, I use the 2.3.4 sbf and install it on my phone. The phone reboots normally and I am quite happy. But when I unlock the phone, it is exactly as I left it before. With the zeam launcher and all the apps I had. The only thing that was missing was the superuser app. So I knew something had changed but what? So I check the phone specs and what do you know, it has android 2.3.4 on it. I also notice less lag and improved scrolling, also the task manage icon has changed. But I knew the root was gone, so I use Pete's one click method to get the root back. But I am still confused on why did the phone not go back to complete stock despite the fact that I sbfd it to stock. Does anyone have a clue?
You put 2.3.4 on your Droid X2? And its actually working?
EDIT: Would kinda make sense....why else would there be a soak test??? Will be waiting to see if anyone else has any knowledge of this. If it holds true, then you made one heck of a find I think...
Yup. 2.3.4 working and more stable. I should mention that I did not wipe before doing the sbf because i thought sbf would wipe everything.
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rp076 said:
You put 2.3.4 on your Droid X2? And its actually working?
EDIT: Would kinda make sense....why else would there be a soak test??? Will be waiting to see if anyone else has any knowledge of this. If it holds true, then you made one heck of a find I think...
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It is in the dev section.. heres a link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284679
i have attached the screenshot if you need further proof.
You went from stock 2.3.3 to stock 2.3.4 and things look the same but lost root? That's typical...the same happens if you get an ota. It's not like you rolled back a version forcing you to clear data/cache. All you did was updated your already stock to an updated stock. If you want the stock experience then wrote data/cache. Trust me, nothing freaky about this.
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Yea, I think you have to wipe first. I don't think it clears \data\ which is the partition that contains the apps.
I'm pretty sure it wipes and overwrites several of the other partitions such as \system\
Yeah. That makes more sense. Because earlier when i tried to run a script on 2.3.3 and messed everything up so i tried to sbf and everything was gone. But it makes sense.
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Yeah. That makes more sense. Because earlier when i tried to run a script on 2.3.3 and messed everything up so i tried to sbf and everything was gone. But it makes sense.
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When 2.3.3 was released I sbf'd and installed, having all my stuff stay. Been using it since then, no problems.
Its not an "OTA" he got the leaked SBF in the Dev section. REASON WHY IT CAME BACK TO HOW IT WAS!! when you add your google account, there is a small check box saying backup your apps/data. This is a quick way for you to sorta "nandroid" your phone when you factory reset. As of gingerbread 2.3.3 you could backup that data in the google servers... If you like 99% who don't stop and read lol just saying .. you wont see the box and it automatically has it checked. Just to let you know your not going crazy or anything. btw the leak is amazingly better than 2.3.3 with the blur. Looks the same just about, BUT the performance is over 9000 times better.
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Its not an "OTA" he got the leaked SBF in the Dev section. REASON WHY IT CAME BACK TO HOW IT WAS!! when you add your google account, there is a small check box saying backup your apps/data. This is a quick way for you to sorta "nandroid" your phone when you factory reset. As of gingerbread 2.3.3 you could backup that data in the google servers... If you like 99% who don't stop and read lol just saying .. you wont see the box and it automatically has it checked. Just to let you know your not going crazy or anything. btw the leak is amazingly better than 2.3.3 with the blur. Looks the same just about, BUT the performance is over 9000 times better.
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An ota and a leak are typically the same thing in my experience. It's just different ways of how you get the update.
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Like all of the SBF's we have for this phone, they are system only. Meaning they only carry the system apps inside of it. They will not affect your data/apps. They will have overwritten the apps that are in the system folder only. Yes you have lost root, but you can get it back. It's only a matter of what is contained on the SBF.
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Like all of the SBF's we have for this phone, they are system only. Meaning they only carry the system apps inside of it. They will not affect your data/apps. They will have overwritten the apps that are in the system folder only. Yes you have lost root, but you can get it back. It's only a matter of what is contained on the SBF.
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Incorrect. You get your data/apps back from your google account upon adding your google account UNLESS!!!! you untick the box in the beginning. This sbf touches more than system.
Reply.. I believe he said after he booted everything was back as was. I think we are smart enough to know if we are redownloading the apps dude.
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How often do you guys make a backup up?
I used to do it very rarely. Then it became every Sunday.
Now I'm doing it everytime I install a new app, or make a mod to the phone... I do one almost daily, and sometimes up to 5 times a day!
And I don't even change ROMs after that!
Is that bad? How often should I do it?
How often do you guys go it?
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I usually only make one when changing/updating ROMs. Then I only keep it till the next ROM change or a completely different ROM, for example I keep the original Sense nandroid and I have the last ILWT CM7 nandroid I made when switching to ICS, but, usually delete between ROM updates.
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i do Nandroid backup once or twice every week...
- backup before update ROM or change to other ROM
- backup before i update kernel
- backup after i update alot of apps on that day
I do it only before changing/upgrading roms... in the first case i keep it for two/three of them in the eventuality to go back for a more stable one... only the last good one in case of upgrade.
I backup every saturday and keep backups of all my fave roms set up and ready to go.
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I do it every time I mod Rom or change the Rom...
It's not harmful taking nandroid backups
"Ever wondered why??"
olyloh6696 said:
I do one almost daily, and sometimes up to 5 times a day!
Is that bad? How often should I do it?
How often do you guys do it?
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Careful there, you might end up blind.
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I just do mine every time I mode my ROM.
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Hahaha
I guess the way I phrased it was a came out wrong if you read it in a different context
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Hahaha
I guess the way I phrased it was a came out wrong if you read it in a different context
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Indeed! Funniest "misunderstanding" since the "How to take a dump" thread someone made asking how to take a... screenshot!
That made my day, so thanks!
Jokes aside, I find Titanium sufficient to backup apps and data and I only do nandroid backups when I edit system files. That way, if something goes wrong, I go to recovery -> Advanced Restore -> /system so my phone comes back to normal and my data are intact. So 5 nandroids a day will do no harm but no good either, imho.
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Indeed! Funniest "misunderstanding" since the "How to take a dump" thread someone made asking how to take a... screenshot!
That made my day, so thanks!
Jokes aside, I find Titanium sufficient to backup apps and data and I only do nandroid backups when I edit system files. That way, if something goes wrong, I go to recovery -> Advanced Restore -> /system so my phone comes back to normal and my data are intact. So 5 nandroids a day will do no harm but no good either, imho.
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Ok thanks!
I'm gonma try to cut down the NAND backup now
Its a bad habit
I just made a few changes to my Launcher, and I'm feeling tempted to just to a NANDroid backup now
Must resist..
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I make a backup everytime i root. So i backup the stock rooted rom then flash away. Also make sure u dont swap sd cards or u will get a md5 mismatch
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If you do it that often there's a good chance that one day you include the problem that screws up your install in your Nandroid, making it worthless to go back to. If you're flashing/modding a lot i'd suggest having one known stable backup which you keep as a fall-back, and then another that you replace as often as you like.
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If you do it that often there's a good chance that one day you include the problem that screws up your install in your Nandroid, making it worthless to go back to. If you're flashing/modding a lot i'd suggest having one known stable backup which you keep as a fall-back, and then another that you replace as often as you like.
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Good point! I see your logic.
Thanks for that!
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Never do those. Only backed up my efs folder.
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I am done with ROMs. There, I said it. The fact is, that they are usually more buggy than the stock ROM, and they really tend to jack things up when you want to revert.
The last one changed the MainVer and I cannot seem to get the phone back to stock. I followed the instructions for fixing Mainver, doesn't work.
Tried to RUU and also use the PH98IMG.Zip from HBoot, but those don't work because the last ROM changed the Mainver so neither of those methods work any more.
I thought I had it fixed by using Scott's CleanFlash tool to push the stock kernel to the phone and it did work for awhile, but now my phone is stuck in a bootloop and I really need to get this fixed, I need to get it to do a real RUU and completely restore the phone to stock. I can then just root it and debloat it and stop messing with ROMs which frankly are never enough benefit to justify the harm and aggravation they cause.
So can someone please point me in the right direction to find a way to correct Mainver so that I can just restore the phone with the latest OTA version of RUU and then leave my phone alone and stop messing it up? LOL
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I am done with ROMs. There, I said it. The fact is, that they are usually more buggy than the stock ROM, and they really tend to jack things up when you want to revert.
The last one changed the MainVer and I cannot seem to get the phone back to stock. I followed the instructions for fixing Mainver, doesn't work.
Tried to RUU and also use the PH98IMG.Zip from HBoot, but those don't work because the last ROM changed the Mainver so neither of those methods work any more.
I thought I had it fixed by using Scott's CleanFlash tool to push the stock kernel to the phone and it did work for awhile, but now my phone is stuck in a bootloop and I really need to get this fixed, I need to get it to do a real RUU and completely restore the phone to stock. I can then just root it and debloat it and stop messing with ROMs which frankly are never enough benefit to justify the harm and aggravation they cause.
So can someone please point me in the right direction to find a way to correct Mainver so that I can just restore the phone with the latest OTA version of RUU and then leave my phone alone and stop messing it up? LOL
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I think I may have solved it. I think I finally got the Mainver fixed and RUU appears to be working, finally.
But I am still done with ROM's until an ICS OTA is pushed out. LOL
If anyone sees me installing a ROM before then, feel free to kick me in the neck...
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I think I may have solved it. I think I finally got the Mainver fixed and RUU appears to be working, finally.
But I am still done with ROM's until an ICS OTA is pushed out. LOL
If anyone sees me installing a ROM before then, feel free to kick me in the neck...
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It's not all that bad bro.... ROM'ing = patience + experimentation + phone insurance.
That sucks you have been having so much trouble man. The whole change to a device with a only an unlocked bootloader along with the newer android version is really throwing Devs and Users for a loop. There is a lot to learn.
I hope all these events don't make you stray from flashing forever!
Sorry you've had such bad luck. My experience with custom roms has been the opposite. I've taken mediocre phones with buggy/laggy stock roms and turned them into solid, stable devices. Some of the features and extras baked into custom roms are so nice. I'm running Scott's Clean GB 1.6 and it has been 100% stable. I haven't had any fc's or reboots, and everything works. And no bloat!
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I think I may have solved it. I think I finally got the Mainver fixed and RUU appears to be working, finally.
But I am still done with ROM's until an ICS OTA is pushed out. LOL
If anyone sees me installing a ROM before then, feel free to kick me in the neck...
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Glad you got it fixed and working again Squire, what was your hang up by the way with getting the RUU to run ? I know you were having trouble getting it to see your device what ended up being the issue ?
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That sucks you have been having so much trouble man. The whole change to a device with a only an unlocked bootloader along with the newer android version is really throwing Devs and Users for a loop. There is a lot to learn.
I hope all these events don't make you stray from flashing forever!
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Yeah, it really is weird. In a lot of ways, I prefer the DroidX and Motorola experiences I had. They may have an encrypted bootloader, but you could still install ROMs and it sorta helped keep you from messing up the phone, and SDLite always worked for me.
Part of me wonders what the ROM craze is all about. I mean, I fall into it myself, but then I ask myself, why do I do this? I have yet to see a ROM that runs as well as the stock one, once you root and debloat it. Sure, some of them look nice, but when you see what bugs there are, how many things don't work, and then the issues that can come up when you have to revert... I dunno... I start out all jazzed up and then more frustrated than ever when they just never seem to work properly...
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Yeah, it really is weird. In a lot of ways, I prefer the DroidX and Motorola experiences I had. They may have an encrypted bootloader, but you could still install ROMs and it sorta helped keep you from messing up the phone, and SDLite always worked for me.
Part of me wonders what the ROM craze is all about. I mean, I fall into it myself, but then I ask myself, why do I do this? I have yet to see a ROM that runs as well as the stock one, once you root and debloat it. Sure, some of them look nice, but when you see what bugs there are, how many things don't work, and then the issues that can come up when you have to revert... I dunno... I start out all jazzed up and then more frustrated than ever when they just never seem to work properly...
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I think some of the issue seems to be how much you need all the parts to work flawlessly for work. As far as my usage and what apps I use, I really can't complain about any of the builds. I just text, surf, browse the internet and play games and music. I never use exchange, blue tooth and those seem to be the biggest flaws with the leaks. So for me the experience is totally different. I think it really all depends on the users needs obviously. To bad you can't get work to spring for one phone for you and then you can have your personal phone to play with
But even the stock ROMs piss me off. I just did an RUU, unlocked it, rooted it, tested to make sure SU is installed and updated, and neither TI pro or ROM Toolbox can freeze my bloat apps. And Scott's CleanTool was never updated to work with the latest OTA, so I am left wondering how the hell I am supposed to disable all this crap.
There are definitely days when the iPhone and "just working" look very appealing... sigh...
I also think that part of the problem is that a lot of the apps and things are disjointed and don't work properly. There is no real checks and balances in the Androiud world, no review process. Any college kid taking a programming course is a "software engineer" and the results are that half the apps and stuff out there are hit or miss at best. It takes forever to weed through all the crap to find the one or two apps that actually work right...
This inability to debloat is driving me nuts.
This is what I am talking about, the plethora of **** apps out there that just don't work. ROM Toolbox, granted root access, go in and grab an app like Blockbuster and tell it to Freeze it.
says it is doing it.
Still says that 10 minutes later. Have to manually FC the app and then go back in and try another app. TIB does the same thing.
How the hell can you freeze apps or just delete them if neither ROM Toolbox nor TIB can do it?
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This inability to debloat is driving me nuts.
This is what I am talking about, the plethora of **** apps out there that just don't work. ROM Toolbox, granted root access, go in and grab an app like Blockbuster and tell it to Freeze it.
says it is doing it.
Still says that 10 minutes later. Have to manually FC the app and then go back in and try another app. TIB does the same thing.
How the hell can you freeze apps or just delete them if neither ROM Toolbox nor TIB can do it?
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Dude, seriously. You have the worst freaking luck with this phone. At first I was just annoyed with your posts, but now I just feel bad for you lol Like, really...I'm sending you good phone vibes...hopefully your phone troubles go away
EDIT: Also, there are other apps that can freeze other apps, I think. Can't remember the name of them, but I think they're out there.
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Dude, seriously. You have the worst freaking luck with this phone. At first I was just annoyed with your posts, but now I just feel bad for you lol Like, really...I'm sending you good phone vibes...hopefully your phone troubles go away
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Yeah, well if something can go wrong for me, it will.
I did a straight RUU, fully restored to stock. Unlocked. Rooted. Installed SU and updated it, and I cannot debloat any of the **** apps.
This used to work. It worked on my GF's Rezound last week, same OS, same OTA, same exact process, but when I do it, it just sits there doing nothing.
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Yeah, well if something can go wrong for me, it will.
I did a straight RUU, fully restored to stock. Unlocked. Rooted. Installed SU and updated it, and I cannot debloat any of the **** apps.
This used to work. It worked on my GF's Rezound last week, same OS, same OTA, same exact process, but when I do it, it just sits there doing nothing.
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That sucks. I've had TiBu hang on backups and restores, but never on freezes. That's really strange. I would look for another app. You could try something like this. Just buy it and try for a second and then refund if it doesn't work right away. Just a thought. Hope it gets better for you.
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That sucks. I've had TiBu hang on backups and restores, but never on freezes. That's really strange. I would look for another app. You could try something like this. Just buy it and try for a second and then refund if it doesn't work right away. Just a thought. Hope it gets better for you.
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Tried it, it also hangs on freezes just like all the others.
I am stumped. I am really starting to hate this phucking phone.
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Tried it, it also hangs on freezes just like all the others.
I am stumped. I am really starting to hate this phucking phone.
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Just buy rootexplorer and mount to r/o in system and go to app and either rename all the bloatware to .bak or just delete the apk's you don't want like blockbuster etc.. thats what I did and I am not sure why people freeze over renaming or deleting personally.
by renaming to .bak then if you like you can just delete the .bak and viola app is restored !
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Just buy rootexplorer and mount to r/o in system and go to app and either rename all the bloatware to .bak or just delete the apk's you don't want like blockbuster etc.. thats what I did and I am not sure why people freeze over renaming or deleting personally.
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Good idea, though it would be mounted as R/W, would it not?
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Good idea, though it would be mounted as R/W, would it not?
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er yes sorry.. I crossed that up
I was trying to picture the screen and was seeing the r/o at the top.. lol have to press that to change to read/ write to alter the actually files.
Tried that and even after renaming and rebooting, most of the apps are still in the app drawer...
The bottom line is that the last ROM I tried really screwed up my phone. I may have to smash it and get a new one under my insurance plan...
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Tried that and even after renaming and rebooting, most of the apps are still in the app drawer...
The bottom line is that the last ROM I tried really screwed up my phone. I may have to smash it and get a new one under my insurance plan...
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Now, that is wierd did you try deleting them or just moving the apk's onto your SD card from the folder if you wanted to keep them ? There is no reason this shouldn't work that I can think of .
I went back to gb. That leak was real bad. Lots of freezing and little issues. Don't say its my device, because i have 2 and both had a lot of the same little issues. The only thing i miss is mms pics being zoomable.
I hated the keyboard and some other Stuff
To me it felt more like a screwed up no good custom Rom by a rookie
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It wasn't your device. It was both of them. It runs like a dream on my phone, not one freeze or any little issues at all.
macked said:
It wasn't your device. It was both of them. It runs like a dream on my phone, not one freeze or any little issues at all.
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I second this. mine runs flawlessly on DAGr8 alpha 1 version, not even 2.
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I have 2 notes... One is perfect with ics and the other exhibits some of the bugs reported.
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I can 3rd this. Its running with zero problems on my device, both A1 and A2 of DaGr8's ROM. It could have been the method you used to flash the ROM, or some of the programs you possibly backed up, but for me i have had zero reboots, only one FC on Touchwiz which i don't use anymore, and no other glitches.
i switched back to GB too, ICS was almost perfect, only Navigon and tether not working (unless paying $50 to ATT).
I miss ICS, fell much smoother than GB, will switch back when we have more steady ROM.
I'm using Alpha II on both mine and my wife's - no issues. As for the keyboard, I'm using the latest Swiftkey 3 Tablet beta.
Out of the number of already active threads on the subject you needed your own?
Thur u arrrrrrgh
I notice the occasional hitch for a few minutes after a restart of the phone but after that everything is fine, though i cant seem to get samsung apps working and lost compatibility with a few apps that don't work even when sideloaded. Gonna stick it out till the final build is ready though.
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I'm on alpha 2 and having the best android experience I have ever had....
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i used the self installing exe rom. The original leak, not a custom rom. I dont want a custom rom either.
I didnt install any backups. I have all the apk's and use appmonster to install them all.
in mms the send and attach buttons where switched and my wife *****ed cause she kept hitting the attach button when she was trying to send.
I dont want a custom rom. If the self installing exe leak rom might be the problem, what other way can it be flashed? Only other thing i did was flash recovery and install SU
If you're having problems most people would say install fresh and DO NOT use a program to restore apps, download them one by one thru the app store.
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If you're having problems most people would say install fresh and DO NOT use a program to restore apps, download them one by one thru the app store.
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yeah no kidding. I just said i install all my apps from apk's. Appmoster only starts the apk install one after another. it doesnt install them for you and its not backups.... its apk's
Another thing was the appliction monitor was always turning red just from having something as simple as web browser openned. The memory management seemed to be horable.
Im trying to locate another way to install, maybe odin or something.
It's too bad your against trying any custom roms. For one they get rid of all that at&t stuff you possibly never use; By doing that extra memory is freed up in the process. I didn't have that many issues when I flashed the self installing leak, but I decided to go with DAGR8's Alpha 2, it's faster than the stock leak was. Every time I re-flash a phone, I re-install everything from market, I don't backup anything. It doesn't take that long to type in my user / password and have everything synced back from the market anyway.
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yeah no kidding. I just said i install all my apps from apk's. Appmoster only starts the apk install one after another. it doesnt install them for you and its not backups.... its apk's
Another thing was the appliction monitor was always turning red just from having something as simple as web browser openned. The memory management seemed to be horable.
Im trying to locate another way to install, maybe odin or something.
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I freeze what i dont want.
Market installs APK's !!!! i have all the apk's i want installed and install them MYSELF. I AM NOT installing backups ..... geesh
so everyone happy with the ics must be running deodexex roms??????
that must be it. Like i said, ics leak is crap. its only good if you take and screw and tweak it.
its gonna be real sad when att pushes ota ics update. the phone is going to become a joke in the eyes of regular people who dont mess with these things
I'm running the leak as is, with no mods or root or anything, and it is ****in' fabulous. Aside from the known issue of the TW launcher initially crashing once or twice, it has been pretty much flawless.
battery life isnt very good on ICS.
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battery life isnt very good on ICS.
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This, right here, is why I am avoiding the upgrade.... Hell, it's why I haven't even rooted my phone yet. I would take some glitches and errors if the battery were improved. But since it's worse -- no way. More memory consumption too? Double no way.
How do you go back to gingerbread? i need to go back temporary
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This, right here, is why I am avoiding the upgrade.... Hell, it's why I haven't even rooted my phone yet. I would take some glitches and errors if the battery were improved. But since it's worse -- no way. More memory consumption too? Double no way.
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It is not worse
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