I recently came over to the DX2 from the DX where I was running CM7. Is there any way to get that on the deuce? Have been looking around and it seems that this Droid has been forgotten for the most part.
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Rumored to be coming soon...we shall see
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Rumored to be coming soon...we shall see
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That would be sweet!
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I do not want this to become a rumor because "coming soon" is a very bad way to put it. If this rumor is about my current project, I'm telling you right now that CM7 is not my current project. What I will tell you is that what I'm working on will help me or whomever with CM7 and any other ROM dev such as nitro and his Eclipse ROM. Until then, CM7 is only a dream that every X2 owner (including myself) see as a future goal and not as a current project.
Also, moderators can we get this move out of the dev section and into the general or Q&A section? Please keep this section clean for actual development related topics.
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I do not want this to become a rumor because "coming soon" is a very bad way to put it. If this rumor is about my current project, I'm telling you right now that CM7 is not my current project. What I will tell you is that what I'm working on will help me or whomever with CM7 and any other ROM dev such as nitro and his Eclipse ROM. Until then, CM7 is only a dream that every X2 owner (including myself) see as a future goal and not as a current project.
Also, moderators can we get this move out of the dev section and into the general or Q&A section? Please keep this section clean for actual development related topics.
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Its awesome to see you are working on anything....no.matter how big/small for x2
ANY work for x2 dev is good news....thanks for taking time out of your EXTREMELY swamping school schedule for us. Unbelievably appreciated whether something happens or not.(wish u had donate button...just to show appreciation for.time spent
And YES agreed ...wrong section for.sure.
Oh yeah to the OP....IF we had a way to have any CM(cyanogenmod).on X2. It would be in the sticky originally posted by booked....which.is.consistently updated/monitored by booked) trust that anything u need or want that is possible for X2 is there.
This is not development. Please don't post question threads in the dev section...
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I doubt CM7 will see the light of day on the X2 unless the boot loader gets unlocked.
Since CM7 uses a custom kernel, the kernel in the X2 cannot be replaced/modified until the boot loader gets unlocked, which in turn would unlock the kernel. That's the reason CM7 hasn't been released for the X2 since it uses a modified kernel, which is different from a modified ROM.
Until then, we have to use the current ROMS which are coming out that mainly remove bloat from Verizon, tweak the UI (such as the task bar) and do some other tweaks to the settings to help improve the performance and maintain battery life. I really like the Eclipse ROM from Nitro. He's doing an excellent job. There's also Liberty and Molten.
Things like overclocking are not possible until the kernel itself is unlocked. However, due to encryption and not having access to the key to do the decryption, this is next to impossible. From what I've read, the only way to get the bootloader unlocked is to have some developer from Motorola leak an unlocked boot loader/kernel image. I believe that's the only way it happened with the Droid X or some other Motorola phone.
As for Motorola's statement that they would unlock phones starting in October, that was allowed ONLY if the carrier allowed it. Verizon isn't allowing it. So, the only way to really get this to happen is to complain to Verizon who probably will just ignore the complaints anyways.
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I doubt CM7 will see the light of day on the X2 unless the boot loader gets unlocked.
Since CM7 uses a custom kernel, the kernel in the X2 cannot be replaced/modified until the boot loader gets unlocked, which in turn would unlock the kernel. That's the reason CM7 hasn't been released for the X2 since it uses a modified kernel, which is different from a modified ROM.
Until then, we have to use the current ROMS which are coming out that mainly remove bloat from Verizon, tweak the UI (such as the task bar) and do some other tweaks to the settings to help improve the performance and maintain battery life. I really like the Eclipse ROM from Nitro. He's doing an excellent job. There's also Liberty and Molten.
Things like overclocking are not possible until the kernel itself is unlocked. However, due to encryption and not having access to the key to do the decryption, this is next to impossible. From what I've read, the only way to get the bootloader unlocked is to have some developer from Motorola leak an unlocked boot loader/kernel image. I believe that's the only way it happened with the Droid X or some other Motorola phone.
As for Motorola's statement that they would unlock phones starting in October, that was allowed ONLY if the carrier allowed it. Verizon isn't allowing it. So, the only way to really get this to happen is to complain to Verizon who probably will just ignore the complaints anyways.
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I'm sorry to say that the only unlocked Verizon device is the XOOM. The DROIDX and all other Verizon Motorola devices are still locked. We can however use 2nd-init to essentially rewrite our root file system and restart the boot processes. This is how the DROIDX does it and that is how we will do it. The kernel cannot be replaced, that part is correct. But we can still get CM7 running. I have twice, but there were too many FCs to even begin calling it usable.
Sorry for posting I'm the wrong section. I'll just keep my questions to myself or stick with the more friendly boards.
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Sorry for posting I'm the wrong section. I'll just keep my questions to myself or stick with the more friendly boards.
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I didn't see anyone get mad at u lol.
U actually got off pretty easy from what I've seen other.people go thru for posting in wrong
forum.(I have seen some.nasty unnecessary stuff b4...when all that's needed is report to politely move thread..like was done here)
Don't be afraid to ask questions
Just ask em in Q&a or general
Don't be.offended.that our moderator arrrghhh moved your.post and requested that u only.post developments in dev section.
Hope to see more from u soon
I am really hoping for CM7 for the simple fact is I want my CM7 OG Droid Theme on my X2. I wish I was talented enough to port it.
I would like to see it for the simple fact I've NEVER used it lol.
So I guess I'm not itching for it like others because of that reason. Lol
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I'm sorry to say that the only unlocked Verizon device is the XOOM. The DROIDX and all other Verizon Motorola devices are still locked. We can however use 2nd-init to essentially rewrite our root file system and restart the boot processes. This is how the DROIDX does it and that is how we will do it. The kernel cannot be replaced, that part is correct. But we can still get CM7 running. I have twice, but there were too many FCs to even begin calling it usable.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was under the mistaken impression the DROIDX had been unlocked. The X2 is my first Motorola Droid, so I wasn't up on all the other hoopla except from what I read and thought I understood.
In any case, thumbs up for doing whatever development/testing I see you tweeting about.
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Title says it all. I know we already got a rom really quick but I was currious if atrix well ever get on the nexus one level with a bunch of roms and devs? Also will there be roms that remove moto blur?
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Development for the atrix won't be quite like the Nexus, since that was a dev style phone.
Also, we don't technically have a ROM as it is just the modification of system files, and not a complete flashable package.
If a Nexus One like experience is important, consider the Nexus S when it comes to AT&T.
Can't afford and iI love this phone. I just want to rid it of blur or a less laggy blurr. will it at least get roms like the vibrant?
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Can't afford and iI love this phone. I just want to rid it of blur or a less laggy blurr. will it at least get roms like the vibrant?
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Try installing an alternate launcher like ADW, Go Launcher, or Launcher Pro (my launcher of choice) in the meantime.
Edit: Also, Moto said somewhere they will give us the tools in the future to really play with the phone, so only time will tell. If they ever keep to that promise, then we'll have nothing stopping us from really getting ROMs and Kernels out just like any phone with an unlocked bootloader.
Im sure were getting closer. I think we have quite a few developers working on trying to unlock it. Also, DG is working very hard at it too. Once it's unlocked we should see quite a few ROMs, kernels, and themes since it is atts first major android phone and the first dual core phone out.
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Im sure were getting closer. I think we have quite a few developers working on trying to unlock it. Also, DG is working very hard at it too. Once it's unlocked we should see quite a few ROMs, kernels, and themes since it is atts first major android phone and the first dual core phone out.
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i dont think its getting unlocked, according to some questions ive asked developers, it probably never will be.
jeebus i hope im wrong though. it pains me to have a phone that is locked down.
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Title says it all. I know we already got a rom really quick but I was currious if atrix well ever get on the nexus one level with a bunch of roms and devs? Also will there be roms that remove moto blur?
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I think its summed up pretty nicely here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975714
This belongs in General or Q&A - NOT DEVELOPMENT.... people need to learn the flipping RULES and start FOLLOWING.... this is why these forums become so cluttered up.... NOONE follows RULES..... **facepalm**
Sorry
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Im sure were getting closer. I think we have quite a few developers working on trying to unlock it. Also, DG is working very hard at it too. Once it's unlocked we should see quite a few ROMs, kernels, and themes since it is atts first major android phone and the first dual core phone out.
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actually DG got rid of his atrix...
absolutely never.
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actually DG got rid of his atrix...
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This thread is like a month old...but anyway.
why not? do u know how much motorola want to do this?
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absolutely never.
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I currently have the incredible 2 and am thinking of coming to the dx2. With a little research doesn't look like there's much dev support for here or is that because its so new? Just trying to see if its a good idea and looking for a couple opinions. Thanks!
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We're at the beginning of the cycle with this phone so I think that is the reason you don't see much activity yet. An SBF was just procured and some developments are starting to trickle out. I just moved from the original DROID and so far I'm very pleased with this phone. I've rooted with gingerbreak and am running the supercharger script.
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Lack of dev support was due to a locked bootloader...we still have a locked bootloader but we do have a way into a custom recovery. It is just a matter of revs hopping on and making roms.
99% of the devs looking into this are prob passing it up until we get gingerbread so they don't have to make their roms twice.
Thanks, just read another thread and realized the questions were asked. Had same issue with dinc2 bootloader being locked but finally was cracked and am rooted now. Phone is great I like it but because of signal issues in my area Verizon is sending me a Droid x2 to try out. Dev support for dinc2 isn't that great either but got the main roms like CM7 and miui with couple others brewing. Just trying to decide if this would be a good switch. Thanks
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So anyone heard any word on if our x2's will get ics or 2.3.5?
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I am sure now that Google took the reigns the X2 will be on the list(not the top, but on it) to get ICS.
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I am sure now that Google took the reigns the X2 will be on the list(not the top, but on it) to get ICS.
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The one thing everyone seems to forget though is how old this phone will be once this actually goes through. It takes a long time for the legal part of corporate acquisitions to go through. Google won't actually be having a say in moto for at least a year, if not longer. It wasn't really to have a hardware company anyways, it was a patent grab for protection. They have also said moto will remain a separate company and act as such, so...
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The other part of the equation is the dev community. With active, dedicated developers, many good things can come our way. Most of the best stuff we had on the fascinate wasn't the result of anything specifically released for the vzw fascinate. Alot was adapted by our devs from releases for other galaxy s variants, but we benefited from it because of their efforts. That's why I think we need to treat them as the resource that they are. One of the best devs on the fascinate recently left xda because of all the drama & he wasn't the first. If you want more work to be done on this phone than you gotta do your part to lessen the crap, not make more.
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The other part of the equation is the dev community. With active, dedicated developers, many good things can come our way. Most of the best stuff we had on the fascinate wasn't the result of anything specifically released for the vzw fascinate. Alot was adapted by our devs from releases for other galaxy s variants, but we benefited from it because of their efforts. That's why I think we need to treat them as the resource that they are. One of the best devs on the fascinate recently left xda because of all the drama & he wasn't the first. If you want more work to be done on this phone than you gotta do your part to lessen the crap, not make more.
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But it also had an unlocked bl and that help'd make a couple dev's come, we have 3 devs and i don't think any of them are happy
I know google aquiring Motorola really wasn't gonna change anything at least for awhile, but I mean moto hasn't been the slowest on updates. Although Verizon may get in the way of any speedy update
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But it also had an unlocked bl and that help'd make a couple dev's come, we have 3 devs and i don't think any of them are happy
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You are right there. Samsung is more dev friendly with initial firmware features but from what I've gathered their code's a frustrating nightmare & updates are painfully slow. Plus the nonstandard file structure adds the necessity of conversion for any type of real performance kick. Nothing is perfect, that's for sure. I'm just thankful to have a phone that works like a phone first and a hobby second.
As far as the devs are concerned, nitro & naven did excellent work for the fascinate community & I've been really thankful to see them here, not to minimize any of the other contributors on this forum in any way. All of them do something I don't know how to & I get to benefit from it; that's win-win in my book. So, what can we do as participants & beneficiaries to make these guys want to stick around?
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Some nice ROMs and themes came around after the bootloader was unlocked last summer, but I can't help but feel as though the dev community is done with it. There's still no Cyanogen and I just know it's not getting any ICS goodness.
Why is that? The Droid X2 is still one of the best Android phones out there, plenty of people have it. Opinions?
The bootloader has never been unlocked.
The X2 is a great phone....if you've never played around with another android device before.
we still have devs around, like dragonz, ace, masta, and that team, theyre trying to port over CM7 and we have 2nd-init, so theres still dev love, but with the BL not being unlocked as of yet there isnt too much we can do at this moment
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As stated, the bootloader is not unlocked. Root was acquired, but that is different from unlocking the bootloader.
But I feel what else hurts it is the 512mb main memory. Even though it's a dual-core phone, the limited main memory has hurt it, IMHO.
But, the locked bootloader is what has really held this phone back. As stated by ztotherad, you can only release so many deodexed ROMs before it just doesn't matter anymore. I think we are getting to that point.
Since the kernel and bootloader are locked, you can't do much more customization.
We are on the brink of aosp roms running on our phones. That has taken a lot of time to work on, and by some wonderful devs. It may have taken a while bit this phone is starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Really there are now only a small handful of things this phone cannot do, like overclock, but we are now seeing a huge door open for us and its all because of "dev love", a few never gave up on this phone even though so many others have.
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We are on the brink of aosp roms running on our phones. That has taken a lot of time to work on, and by some wonderful devs. It may have taken a while bit this phone is starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Really there are now only a small handful of things this phone cannot do, like overclock, but we are now seeing a huge door open for us and its all because of "dev love", a few never gave up on this phone even though so many others have.
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and honestly, im so grateful for these devs, if it wasnt because of them wed be in the same boat as my devour (with no dev support). so im thankful we have amazing devs!
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Some nice ROMs and themes came around after the bootloader was unlocked last summer, but I can't help but feel as though the dev community is done with it. There's still no Cyanogen and I just know it's not getting any ICS goodness.
Why is that? The Droid X2 is still one of the best Android phones out there, plenty of people have it. Opinions?
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If you have an unlocked bootloader u.need to share that right now
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if you have an unlocked bootloader u.need to share that right now
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exactly, share yo' keys, bro! :d
There are devs cranking out code for the X2 as I write this. Have you even read any of the threads in the development forum?
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The bootloader has never been unlocked.
The X2 is a great phone....if you've never played around with another android device before.
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That depends.
My previous phone was an LG Vortex - ARM6 processor, 600mhz processor, Android 2.2.
So, the X2 is a major upgrade compared to that sorry excuse for an android phone. But hey, it was free!
Why no dev love for the x2?!
That's an understatement to the awesome devs that we do have. There 2nd-init development is no joke.Im suprised they stuck with the dx2 and didnt move to another device seeing as how difficult it is to work with. I have faith in the devs here with the dx2 in a matter of time they'll get it running sum sweetness.
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Why no dev love for the x2?!
That's an understatement to the awesome devs that we do have. There 2nd-init development is no joke.Im suprised they stuck with the dx2 and didnt move to another device seeing as how difficult it is to work with. I have faith in the devs here with the dx2 in a matter of time they'll get it running sum sweetness.
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I concur. Look at Nitro. He's moved on with a different Moto device yet he still updates the Eclipse ROM for us. Heck, he's juggling Eclipse for three phones.
There's dev love for the X2.
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How in the world can you say that there is no development for this phone? Yes, it's been slow, and yes, not a lot are on it. But the ones who are (definitely myself included) are hard at work trying to get this thing going.
Read the development forums. I have at least two [REF] posts in there that explain a lot of the work I've been doing. In fact the one about CM7 needs another update. I update my twitter before I update that though. It's @dragonzkiller. Even if you don't have an account just look me up and you can see that I've been making a lot of progress with CM7. That, sir, is dev love.
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How in the world can you say that there is no development for this phone? Yes, it's been slow, and yes, not a lot are on it. But the ones who are (definitely myself included) are hard at work trying to get this thing going.
Read the development forums. I have at least two [REF] posts in there that explain a lot of the work I've been doing. In fact the one about CM7 needs another update. I update my twitter before I update that though. It's @dragonzkiller. Even if you don't have an account just look me up and you can see that I've been making a lot of progress with CM7. That, sir, is dev love.
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Sic em boy!!! ARF ARF GGRRRRR....LOL j/k
Your work is GREATLY appreciated by those of us who know what's going on
Thanks for all the insane amount of time you put into this....(and everyone else to!)
Thanks for me filling me in; didn't realize that having root and unlocking the boot loader were different. I wasn't hating on the devs when I said there was no love; there is plenty of it, it's just that X2 ROMs never seem to play nice, and low RAM doesn't help an often slow and buggy UI.
anything new rom wise, on the horizon that anyone knows about?
Just an FYI, this isnt a question for the development section.
Now to answer your question, we really only have one developer working on ROMs for us and thats dragonzkiller. I'm sure we will get an update to our CM9. And apparently he is working on JellyBean but thats not guaranteeing us to be getting it.
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Just an FYI, this isnt a question for the development section.
Now to answer your question, we really only have one developer working on ROMs for us and thats dragonzkiller. I'm sure we will get an update to our CM9. And apparently he is working on JellyBean but thats not guaranteeing us to be getting it.
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+1
Would also love too see a port of the Droid Razr's new ICS rom. The updated motoblur. Looks cool
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Would also love too see a port of the Droid Razr's new ICS rom. The updated motoblur. Looks cool
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The only way we would get that though is if we got someone to do it. dragonzkiller can't do EVERYTHING. lol. I dont see very much else coming out for this phone. All the developers who have ever had it has moved on to something else already.
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The only way we would get that though is if we got someone to do it. dragonzkiller can't do EVERYTHING. lol. I dont see very much else coming out for this phone. All the developers who have ever had it has moved on to something else already.
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Is the guy who built eclipse no longer on x2?
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Is the guy who built eclipse no longer on x2?
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Oh, Nitro? I believe he has moved on from using the phone but still updates the DX2 ROM if he can. I could be wrong. I think he is MORE involved with other phones though.
Questions should be asked in the Q&A forums, not Development forums.
Thread moved.
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Oh, Nitro? I believe he has moved on from using the phone but still updates the DX2 ROM if he can. I could be wrong. I think he is MORE involved with other phones though.
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I believe you nailed that on the head, but I will go a little further and say he's probally NOT looking to do anything for the X2 aside from the Eclipse. That's not saying he won't ever put out anything more for it but I believe if he does it will be Eclipse update. (Not holding my breath).
Time for us to buy a Samsung SIII?