Question on cost of phones - HTC EVO 3D

Does anyone have any idea what the average markup is on cell phones? They are getting damn expensive, more than tabs and laptops, and I would assume they are making a nice profit. Anyone work for a cell company that knows? I am definitely curious.
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sprintuser1977 said:
Does anyone have any idea what the average markup is on cell phones? They are getting damn expensive, more than tabs and laptops, and I would assume they are making a nice profit. Anyone work for a cell company that knows? I am definitely curious.
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Well as far as actual unit costs of the phone, I don't know but these carriers pay a lot more for the phones than we do so they lose money on the actual sale of the phone but they make that money back and then some when we sign up for a 2 years contract or ETF's if we decide to cancel early. So I guess your question should be what is the average cost to maintain and provide service for each account and/or line.

I used to work in retail (radioshack) I don't remember what we paid for the 3d, but the evo 4g retailed at $499.99 and warehouse cost was $494.99, so profit margin isn't much at all. Carriers and retailers make money off of the contract. Usually first year is making up for the loss on the handset, and the second year is profit. Retailers like RS, BB, and WM get a commission from the carriers.

themuffinman said:
Well as far as actual unit costs of the phone, I don't know but these carriers pay a lot more for the phones than we do so they lose money on the actual sale of the phone but they make that money back and then some when we sign up for a 2 years contract or ETF's if we decide to cancel early. So I guess your question should be what is the average cost to maintain and provide service for each account and/or line.
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Yeah, what he said is 100% true. I believe there is some loss at the motorola, HTC, level too initially also because the cost of manufacturing the technology when brand new is high. After x number of units is sold they break even, and then the cost of manufacturing decreases and they begin raking in profits again.
The same thing happens with other technology comes out too, that's why it is so important for these companies to either have a lot of capital, or capable of borrowing the money. Once the cost of research and development is made up, and cost of manufacturing goes down they begin making lots more money. If a device was designed poorly and popularity is low they get in a pretty tight spot.

sprintuser1977 said:
Does anyone have any idea what the average markup is on cell phones? They are getting damn expensive, more than tabs and laptops, and I would assume they are making a nice profit. Anyone work for a cell company that knows? I am definitely curious.
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Yeah, the tech itself is pretty expensive. Retailers aren't marking up more than 1-2% initially... If they're lucky. Most hardware is like that (Aside from desktop computers, and to a lesser extent, laptops). At my last job, we were actually losing money on all the game consoles we sold (Like 1-2 dollars, but still...) and phones were even worse.

It's all a scam. There hasn't been a new phone manufactured in 15 years. All these supposed "new" phones are just refurbished Nokias, or at least they have been since '96. Google it.
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This isn't true best buy makes it up to what 600 or 700 lol well other charge 499.
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flonker said:
It's all a scam. There hasn't been a new phone manufactured in 15 years. All these supposed "new" phones are just refurbished Nokias, or at least they have been since '96. Google it.
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what the heck are you talking about. They did not have computers with processors like the ones in our phones 15 years ago. Try using anything from then and tell me that there has been no progress. Man I hope you were kidding about this.

I know when i used to be a manager at toys r us we would only make $5 on video game systems. Our money was made on the games. In the same reasoning with the sale of phones and signing contracts. I just find it crazy some of these phones are way more expensive than laptops and the only diff sometimes is the laptop doesnt make calls
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DJ1994 said:
what the heck are you talking about. They did not have computers with processors like the ones in our phones 15 years ago. Try using anything from then and tell me that there has been no progress. Man I hope you were kidding about this.
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Lol your funny if u thought he was serious.
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ckoadiyn said:
This isn't true best buy makes it up to what 600 or 700 lol well other charge 499.
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That's true on the bestbuy part. Imho, they don't want people to buy them outright... that, and they still want to make a nice profit on the devices.
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sprintuser1977 said:
I know when i used to be a manager at toys r us we would only make $5 on video game systems. Our money was made on the games. In the same reasoning with the sale of phones and signing contracts. I just find it crazy some of these phones are way more expensive than laptops and the only diff sometimes is the laptop doesnt make calls
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Kinda the same thing with the phones. Profit margin is EXTREMELY small on the device (unless it's Best buy) but they make up for it with accessories (which is why when you buy a phone from radioshack, if that store has a good district manager, they will try to cram accessories down your throat).

When the iPhone 4 came out, I think I read somewhere that it was costing apple around $195 to make each phone. I would imagine most phones are pretty similar. The manufacturers actually make quite a bit. The carriers and other retailers don't too much (except best buy of course).
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lyon21 said:
When the iPhone 4 came out, I think I read somewhere that it was costing apple around $195 to make each phone. I would imagine most phones are pretty similar. The manufacturers actually make quite a bit. The carriers and other retailers don't too much (except best buy of course).
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http://www.gizmag.com/apple-cost-iphone4/15583/
close... wow I never would've thought that... makes me wonder how much our evo 3d's cost to build... To the google!

Yea im wanting that galaxy note baad but the cheapest i have seen it is like $760. Insane
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No way the profit margins are that bad. Look at tablet prices, they for the most part are nowhere near 700 or 800. and they still make money off them and a lot of them are the same hardware as the phones with a bigger screen.

ckoadiyn said:
Lol your funny if u thought he was serious.
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I know but still you have got to be kidding me.

DJ1994 said:
I know but still you have got to be kidding me.
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Oh I am quite serious.
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flonker said:
Oh I am quite serious.
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Then explain
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Drewmungus said:
No way the profit margins are that bad. Look at tablet prices, they for the most part are nowhere near 700 or 800. and they still make money off them and a lot of them are the same hardware as the phones with a bigger screen.
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Yeah but you didn't consider the super micro architecture. It takes a lot to manufacture a processor this powerful, with such low voltage and low heat

sprintuser1977 said:
Does anyone have any idea what the average markup is on cell phones? They are getting damn expensive, more than tabs and laptops, and I would assume they are making a nice profit. Anyone work for a cell company that knows? I am definitely curious.
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my view is different then others here, i dont care what the price markup is...i have family all over the world...it keeps me intouch with them in a instant. if the phones was 1500...i would not care. what these phones do and the time they save more then makes up for the cost. and reality is..profits are only earned if the phone is good enough...how many phones does htc make? billions in r&d...plus phones that did not sell...

Related

AT&T Note 1080p screen.

So last Friday i went to my local att store with the full intention of getting the Note but naturally i wanted to try having some fun with the reps. I told them i was wanting a new phone and then asked them what is the best phone. Turns out the iphone 4s is the best. When i asked why i was told it has siri and a retina display. (no one there could tell me why the retina display was so amazing) At that point i decided not to attempt to troll them as it would have been pointless. Fast forward and im at the checkout buying the Note. While checking out the rep tells me how the phone has a 1080p screen. At this point i couldn't help myself i asked if it was better than the iphones retina..short anwser no it is not. Anyways im now a proud owner of the only 1080p galaxy note. lol
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ATT employees get a bigger commission on iphones if im not mistaken...idrones
the resolution is not 1080p its 1280x800
its a little better then 720p but still better then the iphone
Love how store employees have no idea. Once asked what processor a phone had to be told a good one. When I asked what they meant I was told the processor was 'at least a few megabytes' lol. Talk about knowing your stuff!
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Haha I love messing with the reps there never gets old. I was there last week and the sales rep trying to sell me the phone was unaware of the different processor the ATt has over the international model to comidate LTE. I could write a book from going in there and talking to them. My gf always tells me to take it easy before we head in lol.
Best part was when i was walking out someone was complaining to the rep about being throttled. I noticed he had the infuse and after the rep told him they couldn't do anything about it i made it a point to tell him how to fix it. Once again the rep told the man what i was saying wouldnt work and against the tos. Needless to say he is no longer throttled lol.
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We don't get a bigger pay out for the iphone its just its gets returned a lot less than any other phone I love android in a Droid fanatic but android is just not for everyone it take a special person to own a Android
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Vcolassi said:
Haha I love messing with the reps there never gets old. I was there last week and the sales rep trying to sell me the phone was unaware of the different processor the ATt has over the international model to comidate LTE. I could write a book from going in there and talking to them. My gf always tells me to take it easy before we head in lol.
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I always try my best to be nice lol. But the times where i have to go into an apple store i can't help myself. If apple is in it for the lols then so am I. Lol
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Was you at a corperate store or a mom and pop shop don't judge all of us as if we don't know anything and if you guys know so much why don't you get a job there so you can teach the masses
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ahenderson223 said:
Was you at a corperate store or a mom and pop shop don't judge all of us as if we don't know anything and if you guys know so much why don't you get a job there so you can teach the masses
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I was at a corporate one. I don't mean to sound like an ass i just think its funny. To be honest if i worked there i would recommend iphones and act ignorant of cell phone tech. The vast majority of people would just get confused otherwise. When people get confused they feel dumb and when they feel dumb they get offended and end up leaving and making their purchase elsewhere.
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mejori said:
ATT employees get a bigger commission on iphones if im not mistaken...idrones
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actually we make more off of Android and that's what we are encouraged to sell. You just ran into a fan boy.
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Sometimes I get people that try to pull this stuff in my store. You can always tell because they ask questions that are technical but is a question that you're asking you should already know the answer to, like what does aws stand for, or what is a pentaband phone... Completely owned some guy yesterday that said you can't unlock the note and use their 3g on tmobile
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mejori said:
ATT employees get a bigger commission on iphones if im not mistaken...idrones
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Not true at all. The money made is from selling data plans and accessories. Doesn't matter what phone they sell. Actually iPhones cost AT&T more money.
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Sometimes I get people that try to pull this stuff in my store. You can always tell because they ask questions that are technical but is a question that you're asking you should already know the answer to, like what does aws stand for, or what is a pentaband phone... Completely owned some guy yesterday that said you can't unlock the note and use their 3g on tmobile
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umm, you can't.
AllTheWay said:
Not true at all. The money made is from selling data plans and accessories. Doesn't matter what phone they sell. Actually iPhones cost AT&T more money.
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AT&T corporate store employees make more on iPhones, indirect agents (authorized retailers) make nothing on iPhone sales.. not even the data plans. So it really depends what type of store you're in. Personally I enjoy when someone knows the tech they're talking about. Although it is quite funny watching people try to convince me the iPhone is better than everything else.
planoman said:
umm, you can't.
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You have some more research to do. The skyrocket & note are unique in this way.
Just remember that for most people that work at those places they could give a **** about most everything there, they are just trying to do their job. Those stores have high turnaround in alot of cases and employees aren't required to know everything about devices.
And technically going by ppi the 4S is better. He couldn't tell you why though. And i would rather have the Notes screen that the tiny iPhone any day.
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zoso28 said:
You have some more research to do. The skyrocket & note are unique in this way.
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Take your own advice. There are at least three threads in this forum on this topic.
Read all 9 pages and report back. Not saying they won't get it to work, I hope they do, but as of now it is not getting 3G on T mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512371&page=9
planoman said:
Take your own advice. There are at least three threads in this forum on this topic.
Read all 9 pages and report back. Not saying they won't get it to work, I hope they do, but as of now it is not getting 3G on T mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512371&page=9
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+1 owned! lol
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+1 owned! lol
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what are you nine years old lol

Bye......

I will be leaving the photon community since I am getting the Iphone 5 on friday. (please dont post if your going to be an android fanboy)
I am only switching because I'm getting it for 40 bucks!
this is how:
1. I bought my phone before sep 9 2011 so the termination fee is less (110)
2.The Iphone is 200
3. thats 310
4. I have buyback at best buy so they're giving me 210 for my phone
5. thats 100
6. you get a 10 dollar ift card if you preorder
7. 90
8. 2 25 dollar gift cards
9. 40 dollars!
Bye
Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya
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rino187 said:
Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya
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LMAO at this...
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bye
Don't feel too bad, I jumped ship to a blackberry style. Having never used blackberry before, gotta say I'm enjoying it. Probably temporary but I'm lovin the whole smarthphone in a flip phone thing. Oh yeah, iphone sucks
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Cya. Have fun with the more expensive iphone 4s.
I got it for 40 dollars
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rajat12345 said:
I got it for 40 dollars
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If you had a termination fee that means you left sprint, therefore you'll have a higher monthly bill no matter where you go. Also, you'll have a metered internet cap with your spanky new 4G LTE phone, and therefore you've also opened yourself up to an overage bill on the internet if you are a moderate to heavy user.
Enjoy your new phone.
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If you had a termination fee that means you left sprint, therefore you'll have a higher monthly bill no matter where you go. Also, you'll have a metered internet cap with your spanky new 4G LTE phone, and therefore you've also opened yourself up to an overage bill on the internet if you are a moderate to heavy user.
Enjoy your new phone.
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Rofl
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Hello,
Thanks to being able to bill to my account, I ordered a 64gb iPhone 5 today. I am honestly not sure if I am going to end up keeping it as I have been using Androids since 2.1 (Eclair) and I really like the platform. However, I am frustrated that Sprint frakked the Photon 4G replacement and I am not fond of Samsung (too plasticky) and to a lesser extent HTC.
I was honestly praying that Sprint would get some sort of version of the RAZR. The Intel Atom powered RAZR looks amazing, but has only been announced for Europe and I think Asia.
Being with Sprint since 1999, I really am conflicted about the iPhone in general. Thanks to Sprint having to pony up Billions of Dollars just to offer the bloody thing. they have done away with the Premier Gold Program replete with 12 Month Upgrades, the ability to bill equipment to your account at any corporate owned Sprint Store, and far less understanding Account Services actions.
That being said., it will be nice to have tons of options for Accessories where with the Photon there are hardly any. Still, I am hoping a flagship Android Phone is announced by Sprint in the next month.
Cheers,
JJ
It was.
It was confirmed that any carrier that had the GS3 was getting the noteII
Have fun with your CrapS6
Ill be rolling on my lovely note <3
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If you had a termination fee that means you left sprint, therefore you'll have a higher monthly bill no matter where you go. Also, you'll have a metered internet cap with your spanky new 4G LTE phone, and therefore you've also opened yourself up to an overage bill on the internet if you are a moderate to heavy user.
Enjoy your new phone.
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Lmao
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My wife just got the iphone 5 and it's pretty impressive. I don't understand why people here sound so indignant that a photon user would be jumping ship. There is a market for the iphone obviously. I find it a foolish exercise to try and compare phones and platforms. At the end of the day they do the same most of functions. At the end of the day
Choice of device is a personal one. If on the day I told myself I now longer care to think about my tech I might move to a different platform as well. People have reasons for moving to ios, and are better for it in many cases.
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Haha! Nothing is impressive about any iPhone. Sheeples and their iPhones are funny!
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Cool story bro! You mad? :beer::beer:
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na7q said:
Haha! Nothing is impressive about any iPhone. Sheeples and their iPhones are funny!
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Comedy
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Is there no one saddened by the news of an Iphone convert simply because he was able to pay about what the phone is actually worth, $40?
Wouldn't you jump ship if you could get a Cryphone at a cheap price?
I'm sure there's plenty of people in 3rd world countries that would love to have this phone rather than something like food or shelter. How else
are they going to shoo the flys away?
Did he leave yet? Do we care?
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Is there no one saddened by the news of an Iphone convert simply because he was able to pay about what the phone is actually worth, $40?
Wouldn't you jump ship if you could get a Cryphone at a cheap price?
I'm sure there's plenty of people in 3rd world countries that would love to have this phone rather than something like food or shelter. How else
are they going to shoo the flys away?
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More comedy
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Is $200 to cheap for this device.

Title says it all im selling.
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Condition pending ...
If the device has been "fully and properly" returned to stock software, and is in excellent cosmetic condition...
Then $200 may be a bit low..
But if you sell it rooted ....and it has a few scratches or marks on the bezels or screen, then $200 is fair.
Of course, it really comes down to the right buyer, and what they are willing to pay.
And for the record, I am an advocate of honest dealing between buyer and seller.
Nothing makes a person more upset than buying blind, and having their trust betrayed...
So if any issues exist with the device, disclose them up front ...IMHO ....g
Appreciate the advice and i believe in the same. ill ask the buyer what they want rooted or not. and I'd return it to stock. Also I'm throwing in 2 cases and a spare extended battery.
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$200 is on the low end for a one in great condition.
You'll know if its too low if you get a lot of hits for it (Craigslist) and people want to buy it immediately.
Why go through the extra steps of rooting it? To me that makes the phone look like its been run through the ringer...
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$200 is on the low end for a one in great condition.
You'll know if its too low if you get a lot of hits for it (Craigslist) and people want to buy it immediately.
Why go through the extra steps of rooting it? To me that makes the phone look like its been run through the ringer...
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Im selling on ebay and didn't get any hits till i lowered price from 400 to 200 not even at 300 i hit any replies. My girl got me this in june for 500 its in the same condition i got it. And that was amazon. maybe ill resell on amazon. i take good care of my devices never broke nor scratched any of them. And im sure i can get higher than 200 there no scratches on screen or bezel. That are noticeable. .
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Plus it came rooted although seller didn't state so.
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I would think thats a good price , BUT.. it's 2 weeks before Christmas....
People need their dough for other holiday giving.
It's going to sell when the right prospect sees it...
Youde probally have better luck getting more money if you wait till after the holidays..
when folks are ready to spend money$ on them selves..
IMHO.. good luck
yes, yes it is.to low.. but its market sell value.. here in bc canada 300$ is the bottom price.. but no one is buying when you can sign up for a 3 year and get a new note 2 for 200$
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I would think thats a good price , BUT.. it's 2 weeks before Christmas....
People need their dough for other holiday giving.
It's going to sell when the right prospect sees it...
Youde probally have better luck getting more money if you wait till after the holidays..
when folks are ready to spend money$ on them selves..
IMHO.. good luck
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I was just on ebay because im selling mine and 200 is a bit low.
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I paid $80 haha. $18 to unlock, $ 9.50 for new glass. That's for the birds yo, cheap, cheap.
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Selling
Look at swappa.com
Total cost to sell is $10.00
I always sell my phones through Kijiji, find it faster and no fees.
I have 29 mins till sale is over should i end item 255 is highest bid
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The real bidding happens in the last 5 minutes..
You pay your money.you take your chances
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The real bidding happens in the last 5 minutes..
You pay your money.you take your chances
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So true, you can get up to 3 to 5 bids at the last second for reasonably popular items
Way low....350 is the average price I am seeing for this phone on Craigslist, more on ebay.
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Way low....350 is the average price I am seeing for this phone on Craigslist, more on ebay.
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True, but its hard to get that price locally when people will constantly compare your price to the latest phone.
What i heard once; S4 is coming out so you should drop the price on your S2.
made me chuckle
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True, but its hard to get that price locally when people will constantly compare your price to the latest phone.
What i heard once; S4 is coming out so you should drop the price on your S2.
made me chuckle
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On a positive note the S3 goes for around $400-$450 online so you could work your way up.
If you still have it I'll trade you my one x that's in my signature.
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Costco has the AT&T Optimus G for $49.99!

http://membershipwireless.com/index.cfm/go/shop/do/PhoneDetails/productId/5533
That means it's not selling
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Could be. At&t dropped the outright price from 549 to 449 couple days ago.
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Yeah, a $200 phone on contract shouldn't drop by $150 in less than 3 months...
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Lol I didn't think LG was that unpopular in the states.
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Lol I didn't think LG was that unpopular in the states.
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I don't think they are, it is just Apple and Samsung have become SO well known that most people looking for a new phone only know those two.
wow. i was looking at this phone today at the local at&t store. nice find.
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I don't think they are, it is just Apple and Samsung have become SO well known that most people looking for a new phone only know those two.
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That is certainly true. AT&T also doesn't push any phones beside Samsung, HTC, and Apple. When I was looking at Sony phones my two local AT&T stores didn't even have them on display.
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That is certainly true. AT&T also doesn't push any phones beside Samsung, HTC, and Apple. When I was looking at Sony phones my two local AT&T stores didn't even have them on display.
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Yeah, I haven't seen one advertisement for this phone either.
It really does seem at&t favors certain brands and pushes that on the public.
They know which ones drive profit.
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Yeah, I haven't seen one advertisement for this phone either.
It really does seem at&t favors certain brands and pushes that on the public.
They know which ones drive profit.
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I've seen a ton of ads here in Alabama
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I've seen a ton of ads here in Alabama
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Witchcraft!
Of course they'll push HTC, Samsung, and Apple because that's what makes them the $$$
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Of course they'll push HTC, Samsung, and Apple because that's what makes them the $$$
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Well if LG would open this beast up so devs could play around and make ROM's, they'd have a hot seller on their hands. But they are too retarded to see the light.
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I've seen a ton of ads here in Alabama
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I've also seen some in Texas. Also, anecdotally two of the AT&T stores near me were completely sold out of the OG when I was trying to get my phone replaced for what the techs chalked up to a hardware issue. They are selling, but still nowhere near a similar HTC or Samsung phone in a likelihood.
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Well if LG would open this beast up so devs could play around and make ROM's, they'd have a hot seller on their hands. But they are too retarded to see the light.
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Actually, even if LG unlocked it to be just like the N4 AT&T would never allow that update, they absolutely hate their users having root or anything xda generally strives for.
My guess is that, among other things, it is so easy to tether/hotspot once rooted without paying for such a plan.
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I've also seen some in Texas. Also, anecdotally two of the AT&T stores near me were completely sold out of the OG when I was trying to get my phone replaced for what the techs chalked up to a hardware issue. They are selling, but still nowhere near a similar HTC or Samsung phone in a likelihood.
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Well... if they only carried 2 as opposed to the 20+ Samsung/HTC phones... it wouldn't be THAT difficult to sell out.
I thought I was getting a steal when i bought it at best buy for 99 which turned out to be 146 due to California taxes. Considering returning it here at school (not cali) just to go to Costco and buy it for 100$ less. Anyone know if that evens possible now that its already been two weeks and am locked into my att contract?
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I don't think they are, it is just Apple and Samsung have become SO well known that most people looking for a new phone only know those two.
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well that and the fact that AT&T reps are still pushing the GS3 like it's a better phone.....
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yidavs2010 said:
I thought I was getting a steal when i bought it at best buy for 99 which turned out to be 146 due to California taxes. Considering returning it here at school (not cali) just to go to Costco and buy it for 100$ less. Anyone know if that evens possible now that its already been two weeks and am locked into my att contract?
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i think best buy has a 14 day return policy, plus a restocking fee
At Sprint, they tell us to push iPhone. If a customer wants an Android, we are supposed to push them to iPhone. I, of course, do not follow this at all and am straight up with the customers.
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well that and the fact that AT&T reps are still pushing the GS3 like it's a better phone.....
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i think best buy has a 14 day return policy, plus a restocking fee
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as far as i know, they dont have a restocking fee and the return policy is 30 days. I am more concerned whether it is even possible for me to retunr the phone and go to costco to buy a new one even though i am already locked in on contract
As long as you are in the return window, once you return it they reset your "upgrade" with ATT so you will be back to same status you were before the purchase
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AT&T Next = Amazing Value and Upgrades every 12 payment cycle

“With AT&T Next, customers can get the newest smartphone or tablet every year with no down payment. That’s hard to beat, and it’s an incredible value for customers who want the latest and greatest every year,” said Ralph de la Vega, president and chief executive officer of AT&T Mobility.
http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/16...t-next-smartphone-and-tablet-upgrade-program/
Yeah but it's not worth it with at&t's prices unfortunately
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0 interest loan, but still make a killing off the data plans.
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I just pay for my two parents lines who both hate smartphones. So I get a upgrade every few months.
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Smh. People who sign up for this should pay a lower rate for service. AT&T isn't offering that so I'll pass.
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Smh. People who sign up for this should pay a lower rate for service. AT&T isn't offering that so I'll pass.
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Exactly, not worth it unless they offered a discount in service.
No amazing value there. No incentives for me to port out my 2 AT&T HTC ONEs from Straight Talk. Which is too bad because I'm willing to pay a bit extra for LTE service, but with AT&T's current rate plans I'm better off just keeping my phone with Straight Talk.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff
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Props to you, I was just about to share this link lol
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You fail at math and basic money skills if you sign up for this service.
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AT&T keeps finding ways to screw customers. Luckily it's only an option and not a requirement.
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is it not like leasing a car. I mean you are still paying the same amount but with upgrade ability every year. And because you pay for 1 year you basically pay half price of the device. or am i wrong?
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is it not like leasing a car. I mean you are still paying the same amount but with upgrade ability every year. And because you pay for 1 year you basically pay half price of the device. or am i wrong?
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You're paying half price but you never really own it.
This new way of selling phones, totally doesn't make sense.
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total rip off !!
glad tmoblie is building 2 new towers in my area should really improve service here ... if so i might be moving over ... this plan is a complete joke
Honestly it seems like there are monthly meetings at AT&T where the agenda is "how can we screw our customers next?"
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Honestly it seems like there are monthly meetings at AT&T where the agenda is "how can we screw our customers next?"
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True...but with the amount of consumers who just want a phone without having to pay anything up front let alone $200 up front and don't really pay attention to details....Next will most likely do well.
It's sad
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This would be OK for someone who wants a new device and do not have current eligibility for an upgrade. Of course you probably can only do this at the time of the contract renewal.
I mean this, if you are willing to pay full price anyway, why not pay interest free payments? But, if you are eligible for an upgrade then this makes no sense. And I don't mean HTC Sense.
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I'm sorry but this is so foolish. We have four phones on our plan, two of them are the $10 options and they never upgrade their phones that basically gives me the option to buy a new phone every 8 months.
The only people I see buying into this are wealthy people, with bad math skills, that have teenaged children complaining for the newest phone.
Haha amazing value. That's gotta be sarcasm?
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No, it's not an amazing value. It would be an amazing value ONLY IF the phone service prices dropped. The phone services have a $20 subsidy built in already, so essentially you're paying twice for the subsidy. What a joke AT&T. Only stupid customers will fall for this.

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