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Well, scratch resistant, anyway.
Point is, it's definitely not plastic, like some people are choosing to believe.
Just did the test myself. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnHbxORRXUs
If there's a trick to embedding YouTube videos on this forum, I missed it, and as such, you're just going to have to click the link, sadly.
CRAZY
thats pretty crazy
I cringed when I saw him taking that pocket knife to the poor unsuspecting phone.. Glad to know it's scratch proof though.
Ya that was pretty informative. Thanks Zilliano
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Ya that was pretty informative. Thanks Zilliano
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No problem. I got tired of all the bullcrap flying around about it being 'hybrid plastic' or just plastic, so I decided to settle the score.
Though sadly I did drop it the other day and it nicked a metal part of my car on the long, long fall... and there's a itty bitty little nick in the screen now. I don't even notice it most of the time, and I sure as heck can't feel it, though. It's about half the size of a grain of a sand and about is deep. I can only see it in direct sunlight, thankfully. XD
I believe the proper name for this kind of screens is "scratch-resistant", not "proof". Nexus One has a similar screen, but it does get scratches eventually w/o a screen protector.
The Eris isn't really scratch resistant, or scratch proof..
I have plenty of scratches on my screen.. albeit a little hard to notice..but they're there.
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I believe the proper name for this kind of screens is "scratch-resistant", not "proof". Nexus One has a similar screen, but it does get scratches eventually w/o a screen protector.
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I think you missed everything but the title of the thread. XD
I said 'Well, scratch-resistant, anyway."
So nyeh.
My point was proving it wasn't plastic like some were convinced it was.
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The Eris isn't really scratch resistant, or scratch proof..
I have plenty of scratches on my screen.. albeit a little hard to notice..but they're there.
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I think it's scratch resistant when coins nor keys can scratch it, and a ton of pressure is needed for glass to scratch it.
I think ANY glass screen is scratch resistant. Especially coming from a plastic screen.
Dude, you are nuts! I'm glad you did it though. I have never liked screen protectors, but was always worried about scratches. By the way, you should put some kind of warning before the video plays, "not suitable for people with weak stomachs" or something like that.
That was a little nerve racking but thank you...
I wasn't very convinced with the youtube post, so i brought it upon myself to try it on a floor model at a bby. Not a scratch! (or cut)
/watch?v=JYZWyGxg6Uw
Hero screen and Eris screen are the same.
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I wasn't very convinced with the youtube post, so i brought it upon myself to try it on a floor model at a bby. Not a scratch! (or cut)
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Hero screen and Eris screen are the same.
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A copycat AND a non-believer? IT'S THE STAKE FOR YOU!
I keep my eris in my toolbelt all day. It has about 7 scratches in it. got it the day it came out. definitely not scratch proof. absolutely scratch resistant. not to mention the screen protectors i got initially were useless. I could not seperate the protector from its backing and ended up bending every one I had.
I have that same case. I've have my Eris since day one. I have No scratches whatsoever. I've dropped my phone a few times, and carry it around in my pocket. Definitely a great phone.
I like how reading this thread there are adds for screen protectors at the top
Anyway, it's good to know that a knife and keys won't scratch the screen, now I won't worry as much about dumb stuff scuffing/scratching it up.
After watching the video I thought I would take off all the protective stuff I had on my Eris. Two days later I had it in my front shirt pocket with a pen and it turns out that the metal clip on the pen put a little scratch on the screen. You can only see it if the screen is off and you look at it at the right angle but whenever my fingernail hits it, I get angry with myself for taking the screen protector off.
i never had a screen protector on my phone, but i bought mine from a guy on craigslist who sent his old eris in for a "new" refurbished one before selling it. and the sucker looked brand new. i run with my phone in my pocket and it fell out one day on an asphalt track at the park. put a tiny ~2mm scratch on it and a little dot from sliding/skidding about 3 feet face down... not to shabby... i barely notice it...
I have a similar case and drop my phone a lot.... no issues. Had a screen protector on my origional Eris, but after having to relplace the phone, I never put a screen protector back on. Good to see its not so easy to scratch it.
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I noticed there are dust in the front of my phone, you know, where the screen joins the sides bezel. While I may be anal, but I worry about dust getting in under the screen as have happened on my previous mobile phones.
Is that likely to happen to the SGS2? ie dust under screen.
Is there an skin that will go over the joining cracks to stop more dust getting inthere?
Yes there is dust between screen and the surrounding plastic, because of the small gap. But no dust under my screen yet.
I think Samsung took care of it.
you will hardly be able to get any dust under the screen since glass and the screen are one. so its kinda impossible
Agreed with the above comment. The Digitizer (Touchscreen) and the Display is joint together and it is not possible to separate them, hence there is no chance of dust getting accumulated between the Display and the Touchscreen.
Same with the Galaxy S
well, it seems that its not so impossible afterall...
I just can't believe me eyes just woke up this morning and reached for my phone, after a small wipe of the screen i saw one little spot that wasn't coming off... after a closer look i realized that the little spot of dust is sitting comfortably under my screen
this is a real bummer for me, never had a similar issue on my previous phone, does anyone know a real solution for this issue?
will try to take a picture and post it later
no dust for me
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I noticed there are dust in the front of my phone, you know, where the screen joins the sides bezel. While I may be anal, but I worry about dust getting in under the screen as have happened on my previous mobile phones.
Is that likely to happen to the SGS2? ie dust under screen.
Is there an skin that will go over the joining cracks to stop more dust getting inthere?
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Did you manage to remove the dust or did it get stuck like that?
I swear the black plastic on the bottom back of the phone is engineered to get "scuffed" the first time you set it down . Other than that I have some lint in the little gap between the screen and the metal rim around the front.
I'm not going to use cases or screen protectors so all of this can be expected, just wondering how everyone else's is holding up? Any drops yet?
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I swear the black plastic on the bottom back of the phone is engineered to get "scuffed" the first time you set it down
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Definately falls in to the "what the hell were they thinking" category.
I'm not going to use cases or screen protectors
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Wow, then I'm guessing we should all come back to this post in a month because you're proably our best durablity test example.
I HIGHLY recoomend a silicon case; protects the phone greatly, and makes it more sturdy to hold!
I got a complete package when I bought my GS2 for 5 euro.. A white and black silicon case, car charger and screen protector. Even though it isnt beautiful, I always keep my GS2 protected by a case
holding out for invisible shield now...
Absolutely fine for me, no marks whatsoever, no slow down of the software.
Have got a little dust around the edges between the edge and the screen.
i never use cases or screen protectors wether in mint or sh*t condition after 1 year who cares its time to upgrade.
sold my SGS after one year for AUD$350 and i never used a case or anything. (hopping to do the same next year with my SGS ii
Don't have any scratches or scuffs on it yet, but that's pure luck...I've managed to drop it twice and both times it landed on something soft. I love the phone but holding it can be a little awkward at times, it's angular shape and width does mean that I often have to shift my hands to accommodate it.
For that reason, I've put on a screen protector and I'm now waiting for an SGP Ultra Capsule Case to arrive. I'm hoping that will make it a bit more 'grippy' and less likely to slip out of my hands. My biggest concern is the camera lens, it seems terribly exposed there on the back of the device and it feels like I could damage it just by putting it down a bit too strongly.
Dropped mine 12 days ago. A juggle managed to launch it to a height of 5ft and then it landed totally flat screen down onto concrete with small stones on it. Shattered glass and non-working LCD.
Still waiting for Samsung to supply a replacement.
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Dropped mine 12 days ago. A juggle managed to launch it to a height of 5ft and then it landed totally flat screen down onto concrete with small stones on it. Shattered glass and non-working LCD.
Still waiting for Samsung to supply a replacement.
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.... .. my condolences. Something like that is the only reason I sometimes fantasize about getting a case.
The dust between the screen, how do we get it out? wet qtip?
I got 1 tiny scratch on the bezel around the headphone jack. It happen the second day I had the phone. I've lost hope in the couple screen protectors I've ordered. I just ordered a zagg full body protector. I've got an a official samsung case coming now.
But I have never heavily damaged a phone besides my hd2. I'm like 48 out of 50 in keeping phones in great condition while not using a consistent case.
I truly hate the silver cheap bezel on all phones. Usually the only thing I tend to scratch.
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Mine has a slightly weird hardware quirk since I first got it - the chrome border around the glass is slightly raised above the glass on right, but slightly below the glass on the left. It's like the glass is a bit angled / tilted up on the left.
Anyone else have this?
Nope mine is fine.
No scratches, have been using it for a month. I always put it on a cloth on my desk when I'm at home.
The dust between the glass and the plastic border annoys the **** out of me. I try to scrape it out with a needle, but they're too thick.
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Nope mine is fine.
No scratches, have been using it for a month. I always put it on a cloth on my desk when I'm at home.
The dust between the glass and the plastic border annoys the **** out of me. I try to scrape it out with a needle, but they're too thick.
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no scratches at all for me...but the dust could be removed with patience and soft brush mate.. i use one that came with my philips shave - just a tip
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Nope mine is fine.
No scratches, have been using it for a month. I always put it on a cloth on my desk when I'm at home.
The dust between the glass and the plastic border annoys the **** out of me. I try to scrape it out with a needle, but they're too thick.
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To remove the dust between the screen and the border all you need is compressed air. I was trying to get it out tonight by using my fingernail through a microfiber cloth to no effect. I pulled out my compressed air and that got it all out instantly.
On another note, I'm using the official Galaxy S II case until my Invisible Shield arrives in the next couple of days, hoping to convert totally to that and not have to use a case.
Can't you remove the dust in there with a can of compressed air and one of those straw attachments? Actually I might go out and buy one.
I definitely agree with the raised bottom on the back of the phone; mine's scuffed quite heavily although the front of the phone is fine, and IMO that's all that matters. A phone's meant to be used and it'll get scratches and whatnot over time.
I've got a feeling i'll be replacing this further down the track anyway since most of my phones don't look too healthy after the 18 month mark. Also have full insurance/warranty cover...if I happen to lose it they'll issue me a new one. Gotta love Korean telcos.
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Mine has a slightly weird hardware quirk since I first got it - the chrome border around the glass is slightly raised above the glass on right, but slightly below the glass on the left. It's like the glass is a bit angled / tilted up on the left.
Anyone else have this?
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Mine is the EXACT same way, I was wondering if it was just mine. Good to know its just a quirk of the phone.
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To remove the dust between the screen and the border all you need is compressed air. I was trying to get it out tonight by using my fingernail through a microfiber cloth to no effect. I pulled out my compressed air and that got it all out instantly.
On another note, I'm using the official Galaxy S II case until my Invisible Shield arrives in the next couple of days, hoping to convert totally to that and not have to use a case.
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The dust can be removed with a piece of paper too.
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AXIS of Reality said:
Mine has a slightly weird hardware quirk since I first got it - the chrome border around the glass is slightly raised above the glass on right, but slightly below the glass on the left. It's like the glass is a bit angled / tilted up on the left.
Anyone else have this?
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So your border is crome? I ask as mine as a black border
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tiny scratch at the back, at the plastic bump, fine elsewhere
Just put a plastic tub on top of my phone by accident, was nothing in it so there was no weight in it. Then I looked at my phone and now there are really fine scratches, you cant feel them with your finger nails and has to be good lighting but they are there. I've seen people try to scratch this glass with keys and knifes, yet laying a plastic box on it has caused minor scratches.
I have to believe there is some sort of coating on the glass, probably oleophobic, that is showing these scratches. The only thing that can scratch glass is something harder than glass on the Mohs scale. And plastic certainly isn't one of them. That being said, it still sucks and makes the phone look bad. I wonder if the coating can be removed...
Apparently you can re-coat it but probably a specialist job and doubt you'll find many company's doing it for at least a few years.
To me it is just ridiculous to go through all that research and development to create a scratch proof glass then coat it with a substance that is easily scratched. It kind of defeats the purposes doesn't it?
You can buff scratches out.
how and what with ?
I'm getting more and more concerned about this "new and improved" GG2. I have had incredibles with no case and throw it around left and right with no screen cracks and barely scuffs.
I wouldn't try buffing them out if I were you. I read that one xda member tried this on his phone and stuffed it up completely.
Ok I've decided the Samsung galaxy S3 glass is useless. My dad works in a double glazing factory which is dusty and full things that could scratch his HTC sensation screen, yet his phone is scratch free. Mine I never put it anywhere other then my pocket except for the one miss hap. Yet my phone has acquired more screen scratches. It's so irritation, they are not deep they are only noticeable in full sunlight when the screen is clear from finger prints.
A sells guy at a samsung showroom was bragging about how strong the screen is by hitting it with his keys... I took the phone, angled it towards the light and I could clearly see deep scratches.
Glass being scratched only by harder elements is only a myth. Even dust can scratch it, just have a closer look at your car's windshield, it's probably full of scratches yet you never rub it with a diamond.
You must have sand or other fine particles in your pocket. Keys and such shouldn't be your biggest worry, most glass resists scratches from these. Sand and other fine particles is where you are screwed.
So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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one year in, and no glass breaking
your routine won't break the phone, i'm sure
screen protector, i have one on top of the anti shatter film provided with the phone, both front and back, and both scratched to hell, but too lazy to replace
Definitely put a aftermarket screen protector over the anti shatter film. The ASF is too soft, but is a pain in the arse to remove by all accounts
I've had my ZU for about 9 months now and have dropped it 3 times onto concrete, once without any screen proctor or case, the other two times has been with a wallet/flip case. The last time I dropped it the case even broke - still the screen is intact.
I too thought it wont happen to mine, till it really did, of course it's not self breaking glass for no reason, but more likely the most logical reason I could think of is, the stress accumulated from the daily use, a bit of pressure while in pocket, or backpack, along with the heat / cold temperature, whatever other bull crap from regular use, over a period of time, that stress cause the glass to be broken.
I pretty much babied my Z Ultra, have back casing, Glass M on the front, Skinomi on the back, never dropped, all in like new condition. Then last Sunday I was on my bike ride, put it inside my backpack, along with my wallet, then couple hours later, took it out from my backpack only to find the glass, under the M Glass screen protector, under the original ASF, has a hairline crack, and pretty much as good as brick, since it wont register any touch, I can see a call coming in, but cant answer it since the display doesnt work.
OP said it happens with Z1, I read that it happens with Z2, and it happens with my Z Ultra, so I think it's just something on their glass quality along with their full glass design, it is impacting a small number of them, not all, just small number, but still the problem indeed does exists.
But I still buy another Z Ultra in a heart beat without much thinking, as a matter of fact already got another one from expensys, with the price is so cheap now, the smoothness, the crisp display, the waterproofness, it still worth every penny.
Mine broke in the pocket, and so did others.
It can break. But with that said, the risk yours will break in the pocket with no abuse is small.
Sony aren't very consistent in handling these cases. Sometimes they get it fixed on warranty, sometimes they're not. But if you get a first negative answer just send in a complaint and they might turn around (as in my case).
I just got mine back. I had the asf removed on the previous one, I'm not taking it off now. And I'm doubling up with tempered glass protectors.
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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There is so much wrong with this post.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i live right on the equator, and have not had any problems with this (i also use a screen protector on top of the antishatter film). do you mean to say by removing the anti-shatter film, the glass doesn't pick up any fingerprints and oil? a screen can only be oleophobic for so long.
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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Yes but the aluminum bumper case is very flimsy stamped aluminum. You would need something with zero give like aircraft grade. An aluminum or plastic shell would be the way to go, but That bumper case is just to prevent chiping of the sides, and give a mm lip when laying the phone on its front/back.
I just use a rubber back cover and THAT'S IT. No problems for me. And yes i keep it in my jeans' pocket most of the time. It does hinder my movement a little though
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The better way to deal with the size is not to put in jeans pocket. In winter, jacket pockets I guess are ok. In summer, I guess the best way would be to buy a camera bag or something for this. I think that would solve this problem.
I just got the phone and I am kinda surprised to see how thin it is. Definitely not a phone you should stress too much.