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So I just bought my HTC EVO View 4G on eBay, and it just came in. Now, I am interested in rooting at some point in the future, mainly because I'd like run ICS on it, and it doesn't seem like Sprint will be doing that any time soon. Either way, I'd like to be able to root regardless. Now, since I just got my View, it is still running the out of the box version of Gingerbread, with no updates at all. I remember when it first came out, along with the Evo 3D, that there were some HTC/Sprint updates that disabled root access, or that caused some problems for people interested in rooting, such as the most recent Honeycomb update for it. So my question is, is it safe to install all the previous updates and make it to Honeycomb without losing the ability to root? I know they are working on a safe honeycomb update for rooted people....but is there anything I should be aware of BEFORE I reach that HC update?
Also, I know it is for another thread, but how exactly does one go about rooting the View? What is the most recent method, etc...
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated!!
So I was wondering would we on the nook tablet be getting honeycomb or is anyone working on it? I know the the color has honeycomb thanks to DeeperBlue. I know spec wise the tablet is better so I was just wondering how we could get it as well because honeycomb or ICS would make this a top noch tablet
sungod88 said:
So I was wondering would we on the nook tablet be getting honeycomb or is anyone working on it? I know the the color has honeycomb thanks to DeeperBlue. I know spec wise the tablet is better so I was just wondering how we could get it as well because honeycomb or ICS would make this a top noch tablet
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378886
we probably will get ICS as soon as the devs found a way to get past the locked bootloader and make a recovery
I've been searching and seems the NT hardware can run HC and ICS, may be if we make a port from Kindle fires CM, both tablets have the prossessor and very similar hardware, or may be I'm just saying stupid thing, hope im not.
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What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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cjbailey75 said:
What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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Titanium backup is the only reason I root mine best backups that gets everything.
cjbailey75 said:
What is the point of rooting this tablet? It runs smooth and fast with ics so not seeing the benefit.
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Backups, Titanium Backup, system tweaks.
UI changes with deodexed ROMs in the future
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Adfree and being able to back up and completely wipe my system are my two main reasons. The second requires a little more than rooting though.
My hulu/windows hack is one reason (flash identifies as a windows machine so hulu and other sites dont block you for being a phone/tablet)
Hulu mod, custom bootanimation, button ui mod.
Root apps - AdFree, Titanium Backup, Hot Reboot, GameCIH, etc.
Remove bloat, run backtrack linux.
There are quite a few reasons...
Block ads
Apply themes/hacks/mods - currently I have a cool startup screen versus that lame Asus one
Better & faster backups with backup apps that support root
Get access to system files with r/w access to make tweaks
To add to what everyone else said, sixaxis so I can play games with my playstation controller over bluetooth
Your system is locked when you don't have root access, it's like on computers when you don't have admin access...
Rooting gives you total access to all OS, that is needed by many indispensable apps.
The next step is to have bootloader unlocked to be able to instal a custom recovery, like clockwork mod, and then to flash alternative ROM. Let's hope that Asus will soon enable users to unlock it as HTC did for example, to avoid devs loosing time to hack it.
Why didn't you buy a iPad then?
Don't say that it could be a signal for bad trolls to come here...
Without root/adb in recovery, not that much. Changing anything is risky, and will block incremental OTA updates (full system restore to the current releases should be possible)
Access to system logs, busybox to make the shell more usable.
Other than some minor tweaks to the UI, unless you're a dev, not a lot of point at the moment (given the risks and the instability of the official OS).
Personally, I'm going nowhere near the overclock side of things yet, for example (despite my phone being OC/UV quite happily).
Investigating the keyboard dock/undock wierdness maybe - that kind of thing.
With the backup app from ASUS, I don't think that Titanium Backup is that big a deal unless you're coming from another vendors Android tablet. I prefer TB.
I root for extra file system access and because I paid like $608.88 for this darn thing. I probably will retain the stock ROM after the bootloader unlock, but may opt to check out CM9 later, if officially available.
I don't need root to setup my environment but it is very nice to have!
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I'm fully versed in rooting. I started with my view sonic gtab rooting customizing it. Then my evo now my rooted razr so I can tether free. But this tablet seems fast and smooth. I have titanium backup n know I can't batch install. I needed to have root on that POS gtab but I dont see a need to void my warranty or stop getting needed OTAs
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Much easier to stream network shares over smb when rooted
I'm hopefully getting my TFP on Tuesday. Have a couple of quick questions about rooting, though.
1. Should I avoid getting any OTA updates until I've rooted (i.e. don't connect wifi)?
2. Does rooting void the warranty...or is that only happen once the bootloader gets unlocked?
Cheers!
Definitely for titanium backup but the Asus backup seems to work very well. Also adfree is a must have.
Right now with root there is nothing I've done that should stop an OTA or effect stability (except for maybe the 1.6mhz overclock BUT the Tegra chip is rated for that speed and it is cooked in there kernel just not factory turned on). Root to benefit backup apps... no problem. Root to add a startup screen.. no problem. Root itself & these root mods could all be undone in minutes IF needed.
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senatorxmg said:
I'm hopefully getting my TFP on Tuesday. Have a couple of quick questions about rooting, though.
1. Should I avoid getting any OTA updates until I've rooted (i.e. don't connect wifi)?
2. Does rooting void the warranty...or is that only happen once the bootloader gets unlocked?
Cheers!
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You could root now with one of several methods available here. Get Voodoo OTA root keeper app & that will save your root through the ICS update. I would root now.
I would not worry about warranty ImHO as they only said unlocked bootloader will do that & you could remove root with no trace.
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I'm fully versed in rooting. I started with my view sonic gtab rooting customizing it. Then my evo now my rooted razr so I can tether free. But this tablet seems fast and smooth. I have titanium backup n know I can't batch install. I needed to have root on that POS gtab but I dont see a need to void my warranty or stop getting needed OTAs
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Luckily root doesn't stop ota updates on this device. And with voodoo ota rootkeeper you can install the ota and even keep your root!
I ma wondering if anyone runs without rooting or putting on custom roms..
I ask because I just got the prime and have not updated to the .21 yet.
Doesnt seem like I would miss a ton. Just curious..
Yes, I am. I'm running ICS, the latest patch/update/whatever that was pushed by Asus.
(Now, FWIW, I bought my Nook Color tablet last year with the full intention to root and wasted no time in doing so.)
For my TP, I just haven't seen the reason. Given the expense of my 64GB unit, the lack of any pressing reason to hack it, and the (apparent) potential to brick it, it's just not a road I want to go down.
For the Nook Color, the reasons to load CynogenMod 7 were considerable and undeniable. Also, the fact that the Nook always tries to boot from the Micro-SD first was re-assuring. For the TP, not so much.
I'm on the stock rom as well, I don't see any reason in rooting the Prime (at least currently)...
Ok, so it sounds like I am not crazy for wanting to not root it.
I just upgraded to the latest firmware and it seems to run very fast and without issues.
Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on too much.
I rooted my TF101 and slapped custom roms all over the place. A bit scared to do so on my Prime.. Seems the risk is a lot higher..
I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. I'm open to being enlightened, but I haven't run across any must-have functionalities/apps that require hacking.
too bad i came posting too late, cause i would say root your tablet just incase you do want it.. as theres no way of rooting your device on .21
and you can clear root by just doing a factory reset so there is only gain and no loses
too late now tho
Nascor said:
I'm on the stock rom as well, I don't see any reason in rooting the Prime (at least currently)...
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If I could, I would root BUT NOT UNLOCK. Having a rooted device allows a whole new set of apps that require rooting, and some of which I'd like to use.
If you decide to root, when available, keep the original files backed up someplace. With .15, wpa files could be changed for AD-HOC capability. If you tried to update to .21, you were given an error message and needed to restore the original files back.
Unless you want to void your warrenty, I definitely wouldn't unlock...and as a side note, you also can't get OTA update.
Bob
I am running stock with the latest firmware update. I'm pleased with the features so far, but as the custom ROMs mature, that may change.
acdcking12345 said:
I ma wondering if anyone runs without rooting or putting on custom roms..
I ask because I just got the prime and have not updated to the .21 yet.
Doesnt seem like I would miss a ton. Just curious..
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I'm still running stock here for now but that could change once I learn my way around a little better. Coming from a Linux background it feels odd not to have full access to the device.
I am running stock without any issue.
I also put the Nova launcher and EZOverlock which are a little bit smoother than the stock launcher.
I'm stock but rooted. For me root let's me use apps like TiBackup amongst others that i like and use. Other than that o have no plans to unlock or run roms. Heck I'm still running the stock rom on my DroidX rooted of course
The odds of bricking the Prime are just to high for me right now.
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Yes, I am. I'm running ICS, the latest patch/update/whatever that was pushed by Asus.
(Now, FWIW, I bought my Nook Color tablet last year with the full intention to root and wasted no time in doing so.)
For my TP, I just haven't seen the reason. Given the expense of my 64GB unit, the lack of any pressing reason to hack it, and the (apparent) potential to brick it, it's just not a road I want to go down.
For the Nook Color, the reasons to load CynogenMod 7 were considerable and undeniable. Also, the fact that the Nook always tries to boot from the Micro-SD first was re-assuring. For the TP, not so much.
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This is me exactly. Not sure I even booted the newer Nooks in the house into the stock ROM. My Transformer does what I need it to at this point, unlike the NOok that was locked down like crazy. I'm happy to hang out stock.
I think i would go nuts without root in my prime... i fact i couldn't use for the main task i bought this tablet for.
I take notes every day in classes using my Prime. It has replaced all books and note books, so using TouchScreen Tuner is a MUST, without this, stylus are just useless.
Then we have all those root apps like Titanium Backup, UMTS manager, Market Enabler and WidgetLocker.
Ooh, and of course the possibility to change the sound when i dock my Prime (sounds like a transformer transforming, super awesome if you ask me).
I am running Stock but I did Root because of I wanted to use AdFree and Titianium Backup Apps. I have an Android Phone that I love to Flash new ROMS to and I eventually will Unlock my Prime and do the same to I just don't see the need to at the moment.
I am, but, not so much by choice. I had root and lost it with .21 update. I will reroot when available, but am hesitant to unlock and void my warranty. Especially since asus has made it such a challenge to recover your device. If they are going to give us the unlock tool and we aren't going to be troubling their warranty division with the problems which ensue, just make it easier for us to fix our own problems.
I'm running stock. I I don't know much about rooting because I am new to Android.
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IMHO, the only reason to root this is so you can say "I rooted this." There's no reason to root the Prime, the way I see it. Yeah, there's a little bit of bloatware, but far less than was on my Samsung Galaxy S when I bought it, and with the 64 GB of memory it's not really necessary. I do wish that I could move apps to my SD card, so that could be a reason to root, but not a big enough one to get me to risk it.
I've also noticed that a LOT of people who claimed to be having these huge problems with the Prime also were working with a rooted device...
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stock as well. Though I would love to root to use the sixaxis app.
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I'm still on stock with the latest updates. When I first got my Prime there wasn't a real need to root, although it meant I couldn't run some apps like Adblock. There weren't many roms around at that time but now there's alot more. Now I've gotten used to running Prime stock and it doesn't present any issues for me and runs smoothly and I've kind of lost interest in custom roms (plus I don't have as much time as before). Lol, I used to change roms on my Nexus One nearly as often as I changed my underwear - you can assume that I changed my underwear often
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The Grey Elf said:
IMHO, the only reason to root this is so you can say "I rooted this." There's no reason to root the Prime, the way I see it. Yeah, there's a little bit of bloatware, but far less than was on my Samsung Galaxy S when I bought it, and with the 64 GB of memory it's not really necessary. I do wish that I could move apps to my SD card, so that could be a reason to root, but not a big enough one to get me to risk it.
I've also noticed that a LOT of people who claimed to be having these huge problems with the Prime also were working with a rooted device...
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There's many reasons to root a device. If you want to have super user permissions just like being a administrator on your PC, your gonna need to root it. Apps such as Root Explorer and as mentioned Sixaxis app for syncing your PS3 controller up with your prime, ROMManager, TiBu, SetCPU, and the list goes on. All up to the end user and what you prefer. The first thing I do is root my devices
Oh and most if not all issues people run into is due to a user error.. not because the device is rooted.
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I just got a new iconia a500 tab I've been reading and have learned that you can get certain apps by rooting but I'm wondering what specific apps can I get by rooting? I've also read you can install rooms can somebody explain to me what rooms are? Also if there's anything else I can achieve by rooting can you guys let me know. Also if I root will I still be able to download the updates that Acer pushes out like how they pushed out the pics update last week?
rcraig617 said:
I just got a new iconia a500 tab I've been reading and have learned that you can get certain apps by rooting but I'm wondering what specific apps can I get by rooting? I've also read you can install rooms can somebody explain to me what rooms are? Also if there's anything else I can achieve by rooting can you guys let me know. Also if I root will I still be able to download the updates that Acer pushes out like how they pushed out the pics update last week?
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Ok, first, rooting. Its the best thing I have ever done to my phone. It allowed me to install the custom ROM. The ROM is what your phone uses to run. It lets you get the latest operating system before its officially released, or get the fastest ROM around where all the bloatware (phone companies crap) that you don't need that is slowing your phone down is removed. Think of ROM as your phones engine. You can get a fast performance ROM or a flashy eye candy ROM. Read up on what you want your phone to do or what you would like to see from your phone, then you can decide on a ROM.
As for updates, you will not be able to get updates, because your phone will become 'disconnected' so to speak, from ACER. So if your running Android 2.3.4 or whatever, you won't be able to update your Android OS until you un-root. But again, with a custom ROM you probably wont need to update. ROMS are usually updated, adding the latest gizmo or tweak, and minor improvements are done quicker than ACER would do them (usually)
And for programs, you can run tether programs without having to subscribe (lets your phone become a modem for you electronics) and costing you money. You can get programs that allow you to change everything about your phone (SuperUser), make backups that surpass anything out there (Titanium Backup), Freeze apps that are sucking your phones memory or power (again TB), block apps that are using your network without your knowledge or permission.
There are a ton of reasons to root, and a few reasons not to (possible brick, void warranty, etc). So you need to decide, do you want total control to do whatever you want to your phone, or are you happy with how it is now and in the future?
There will probably be a ton more folks chiming in, so take what you get from the other folks, I only recently rooted my Thunderbolt, do I am not a pro at this stuff.
Thanks for chiming in you kind of helped me understand more about roms but can anyone with a tablet let me know what you've done to your tablet once you rooted it.
I've got a galaxy Tab 10.1, which currently runs Honeycomb if you ask a Samsung bod. I pretty much rooted on day one so that I could take full system backups and restore to a previous point if I needed to.
Then I discovered AOKP, which is an ICS system based on Cyanogen, but different at the same time (I happen to think it's better) as they actually support the P4wifi (Tab).
So I have three full system backups on my Tab, created using Rom Manager/CWM. The original Honeycomb as shipped and supported by Samsung, AOKP ICS and Cyanogen ICS.
As the ICS ROMs don't have camera functionality on the Tab yet, I can switch back to Honeycomb within about 5 minutes, take a picture and restore ICS in another 5 minutes.