Moto razr bootloader - Motorola Droid RAZR

HI @ all.
I love the new MOTO RaZr,
but for the future... i dont know moto releases updates in germany for the razr. (Ice Cream and so on)
So has the Razr an unlocked bootloader or a locked one like Atrix ?
Thanx for answers, this will help my buy decision

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It is locked but will be unlocken when motorola releases ICS.

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Oh locked? Hmm
when motorola releases ICS...in 2013
I think i choose Galaxy S2 .
THX a lot

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Wrong section, reported for move.

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Ice Cream Sandwich has been promised for early 2012 both internationally and stateside.

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[TSON] said:
Ice Cream Sandwich has been promised for early 2012 both internationally and stateside.
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Honeycomb 2.3 was also expected in September 2011 in Europe, but has yet to be released
Motorola does not meet both the promises
at least for the European market

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the RAZR is the flagship phone for VZW's holiday season. I doubt they'd even let Moto slip up.

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[TSON] said:
the RAZR is the flagship phone for VZW's holiday season. I doubt they'd even let Moto slip up.
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Until next week when the Droid 4 comes out.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk

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except Moto announced that the RAZR would be their focus..

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let us hope

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Check this for motorola Razr update to ics.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades

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[TSON] said:
except Moto announced that the RAZR would be their focus..
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Yea. Till their next phone comes out.

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desmonexus said:
Honeycomb 2.3 was also expected in September 2011 in Europe, but has yet to be released
Motorola does not meet both the promises
at least for the European market
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um, Honeycomb 2.3 huh? I'd love to see that!
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So, as far as moto saying they'll unlock the bootloader, thats one thing, but is anyone working on hacking it to unlock it sooner?? I thought the GSM version ships unlocked?

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I got the GSM version and I think it is unlocked

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[TSON] said:
the RAZR is the flagship phone for VZW's holiday season. I doubt they'd even let Moto slip up.
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I think the galaxy nexus is their flagship phone.

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melterx12 said:
I think the galaxy nexus is their flagship phone.
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nope. they're hyping the RAZR on their own. google is doing all of the nexus stuff themselves, bar the posterboards in stores. plus the nexus missed black friday which is most of the holiday seasons sales
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA App

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[TSON] said:
nope. they're hyping the RAZR on their own. google is doing all of the nexus stuff themselves, bar the posterboards in stores. plus the nexus missed black friday which is most of the holiday seasons sales
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I dont know it seems like verizon is making a new droid phone that they claim is the best phone on the planet every other month. I bet the razr will be succeeded by another droid soon lol

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while that probably is true, it doesn't change the fact that the major part of the holiday season is already over, with the RAZR in the spotlight.

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Verizon has advertising subsidized by Motorola to advertise the RAZR.
Google is the ones in charge of promotion for the Nexus, as well as Samsung, and Samsung doesn't subsidize Verizon's advertising, hence very little advertising done for the Nexus by Verizon.
Verizon & Moto have jointly stated that the RAZR is the flagship phone for Motorola until at least mid Q1 2012.
The Droid 4 will not supplant the RAZR in advertising space as a flagship phone, and therefore will not get the same development support as the RAZR will get for the time being.
The locked bootloader, is a Verizon decision, and really, it means next to nothing. I don't understand why it gets all the press, when an AOSP version of ICS will be ported to the RAZR sooner rather than later anyway, and why someone wouldn't want an AOSP version of android over the Motorola official version, really is beyond me.
AOSP (meaning Android Open Source Platform = basic build from the ground up) is a blank slate version anyway. It's much better than a Motorola official version. If you know how to root your phone at all, there's no point in waiting for the Moto official version of ICS with bloatware included.
AOSP's are far superior to these versions.
Also, the locked bootloader does not in anyway hinder the development community, and is not a roadblock to any development on the phone.
Does anyone truly understand what a custom kernel gets you anyway?? To be honest, not much at all these days. I've had custom kernels, and I've had 2nd init ROMS built over standard kernels, and the 2nd init ROMS actually performed as well or better than custom kernels.
A locked bootloader really is a good talking point, but doesn't hinder creative progress.

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garlick2 said:
Also, the locked bootloader does not in anyway hinder the development community, and is not a roadblock to any development on the phone.
Does anyone truly understand what a custom kernel gets you anyway?? To be honest, not much at all these days. I've had custom kernels, and I've had 2nd init ROMS built over standard kernels, and the 2nd init ROMS actually performed as well or better than custom kernels.
A locked bootloader really is a good talking point, but doesn't hinder creative progress.
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That's a pretty bold statement. Doesn't hinder development at all huh? I think many devs would beg to differ on that one pal.