What's the deal with HTCSense.com? It was announced as a huge distinguisher ansd selling point for HTC phones, but nowhere has it been mentioned with the Rezound. I can't seem to register the device on it either, though the site is still up and apparently fucntional. Anyone else have this issue, and why has this not been addressed by HTC? Have they dropped support for the site on new devices or something and just not told anybody? I for one would love the ability to remote wipe, lock, ring and locate without fees or 3rd party apps. Why did HTCSense.com just seem to fall off the face of the earth?
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What's the deal with HTCSense.com? It was announced as a huge distinguisher ansd selling point for HTC phones, but nowhere has it been mentioned with the Rezound. I can't seem to register the device on it either, though the site is still up and apparently fucntional. Anyone else have this issue, and why has this not been addressed by HTC? Have they dropped support for the site on new devices or something and just not told anybody? I for one would love the ability to remote wipe, lock, ring and locate without fees or 3rd party apps. Why did HTCSense.com just seem to fall off the face of the earth?
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Sense.com is still going strong. Verizon just decided that it was not in their interest to allow their HTC phones to access it. HTC's HUB is off-limits to us too. Very nice of Verizon, don't you think?
Hmm...
Yeah that's not okay! What's their motivation for this and more importantly, how do we circumvent it?
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Yeah that's not okay! What's their motivation for this and more importantly, how do we circumvent it?
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Motivation - $$$$$$$$ , control.
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Can we somehow access it if we have a rooted phone?
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Can we somehow access it if we have a rooted phone?
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Maybe we can enable it on custom sense-based roms.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Maybe we can enable it on custom sense-based roms.
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You can. I had it on my thunderbolt
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I can't believe Verizon did that. I was wondering why I couldn't access skins. HTC needs to step up and give us this option.
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I'm not a EVO 3D user, and I can only tell you that none of the functions on HTCSense.com work for me as of today.
Bit confused, you can go the HTC's website and download additional skins??
and sense.com bring me to a foreign website...
Try htcsense.com plain sense can get you something completely different. lol
So what's the big deal about that site? I read something about tracking your phone, backing up data and skins and ringtones. Is that it?
Is HTC Hub part of this?
Oh goodness, is it time for another petition? LOL
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To my knowledge, no Verizon (or any US carrier, for that matter) has ever enabled the feature. Most likely because they have their own utilities that do the same thing.
Hub is enabled in my ROM, and I think others, but I don't believe it has any support for xhdpi, meaning wallpapers are too small and skins look ridiculous.
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To my knowledge, no Verizon (or any US carrier, for that matter) has ever enabled the feature. Most likely because they have their own utilities that do the same thing.
Hub is enabled in my ROM, and I think others, but I don't believe it has any support for xhdpi, meaning wallpapers are too small and skins look ridiculous.
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Ya I'm almost positive the sensation 4G had htc hub
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Its a real shame that Verizon is blocking HTC-Sense. You'd figure they want to block it so they can push their own competing services to you instead. But as far as I know, they don't offer services such as locating your device, wiping it remotely, etc. I believe you have to buy insurance through Asurion to enable those features. Ah, so Verizon would like us to shell the extra cash for Asurion insurance where they'll get a bit of commission off of that?
Good old greedy Verizon.
So has anyone been able to enable the features of the website with rooted HTC phones and custom roms then to bypass our evil American carriers?
There are apps you can do remote wiping, calling, etc. of your phone. Cerberus, avast! and others. Some free, some pay.
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So has anyone been able to enable the features of the website with rooted HTC phones and custom roms then to bypass our evil American carriers?
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Look up two posts. It's in all the sense 3+ BAMF Roms as far as I know.
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To my knowledge, no Verizon (or any US carrier, for that matter) has ever enabled the feature.
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Sense.com and HTC Hub comes standard on all of AT&T and T-Mobile's HTC Android phones the last time I checked. Yes, VZW's stance is probably "use our stuff instead."
there was a rom i think..
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What's the deal with HTCSense.com? It was announced as a huge distinguisher ansd selling point for HTC phones, but nowhere has it been mentioned with the Rezound. I can't seem to register the device on it either, though the site is still up and apparently fucntional. Anyone else have this issue, and why has this not been addressed by HTC? Have they dropped support for the site on new devices or something and just not told anybody? I for one would love the ability to remote wipe, lock, ring and locate without fees or 3rd party apps. Why did HTCSense.com just seem to fall off the face of the earth?
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there's no custom rom that has htc.com, but
bamf rom has htc hub app that u can try.
u need an account to use.
the problem is that there's nothing to use
for sense 3.5 i think.
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Based on what's happening with the other "new" HTC phones, it's looking more and more like there will not be a way to do a perm root (S=Off) on the EVO 3D, unless by way of the XTC Clip.
So if there's no perm root on any of the other new HTC phones by the time the EVO 3D is release, will you still purchase it? If so, do you not care about root or do you just feel it will eventually happen?
Me... as much as I hate the way Samsung has treated it's customers with the after sales support, I'm starting to seriously consider the SGS II. 3D isn't important to me, but having the support of developers are.
I think it will happen eventually. I can always sell it if it doesn't happen.
I feel it will happen. Even if they never figure a way to unlock the bootloader I'm positive that they will at least get root access and as long as I get my free wireless tethering to work ill be good. Don't get me wrong I'd be dissapointed if they were never be able to crack it, i'll be good with just root.
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I feel it will happen. Even if they never figure a way to unlock the bootloader I'm positive that they will at least get root access and as long as I get my free wireless tethering to work ill be good. Don't get me wrong I'd be dissapointed if they were never be able to crack it, i'll be good with just root.
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I agree. They will figure out a way.
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I agree. They will figure out a way.
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this is the problem with the miracles of developers, they instill so much confidence in us that we think they can do anything. True, where there's a will, there's a way, but an encrypted bootloader is pretty hard to get past, they never did it on any of the Motorola phones, and if the Evo 3D has one, I don't see it being cracked anytime soon. Sure, they were able to hack a lot of older phones, but they were just locked bootloaders, not encrypted.
Personally, I'm getting kind of sick of running custom ROMs now, simply because I now have 2 jobs and don't have the time to configure my phone to my liking every time I flash something different. Though I'd still be pissed with the encrypted bootloader, the option to run a custom rom should still be available if needed
But, with Samsung phones, they are using that horrible filesystem. I mean wow, on the Galaxy S 4G, there is STILL not a Clockworkmod Recovery, which means STILL no ROM's because of the file system issues.
Honestly, if the EVO 3D can't be rooted, and the Galaxy S2 has another bunk filesystem which really can't be modded, I will not be purchasing either.
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But, with Samsung phones, they are using that horrible filesystem. I mean wow, on the Galaxy S 4G, there is STILL not a Clockworkmod Recovery, which means STILL no ROM's because of the file system issues.
Honestly, if the EVO 3D can't be rooted, and the Galaxy S2 has another bunk filesystem which really can't be modded, I will not be purchasing either.
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I'm rooted on an Epic 4G...which uses RFS.
There is no point of even talking about it because it will come how all previous HTC phones have come to sprint. Locked and rooted before its released. These BS scare tactics are more than laughable.
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Samzebian said:
this is the problem with the miracles of developers, they instill so much confidence in us that we think they can do anything. True, where there's a will, there's a way, but an encrypted bootloader is pretty hard to get past, they never did it on any of the Motorola phones, and if the Evo 3D has one, I don't see it being cracked anytime soon. Sure, they were able to hack a lot of older phones, but they were just locked bootloaders, not encrypted.
Personally, I'm getting kind of sick of running custom ROMs now, simply because I now have 2 jobs and don't have the time to configure my phone to my liking every time I flash something different. Though I'd still be pissed with the encrypted bootloader, the option to run a custom rom should still be available if needed
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HTC Sensation, 3D will have bootloader sign, motorola bootloader sign and encrypted is two different things.
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HTC Sensation, 3D will have bootloader sign, motorola bootloader sign and encrypted is two different things.
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That's true, but so far, it seems HTC's new way of signing or whatever they did hasn't been or can't be broken yet with what info is out there. How long has the Incredible S been out now... since late Feb? Still no one has been able to get a software S=off, to give it a permanent root. This has me worried.
As much as I hate Samsung, I think I might need to get the SGS II because I don't want to get a phone that can't get perm root.
Ill get it. If it can't be fully rooted I will reevaluate and decide whether it not to sell it. Sense 3
0 with those specs and partial root may suffice.
Tapa tapa tapa
The phones we have been discussing all have one thing in common, Verizon. I don't think Sprint will force HTC to do this and I doubt HTC is really wanting to lock the devs out.
Yea I will get it regardless. My primary reason for rooting my hero was better performance and softest. But when I buy Sprint''s next flag ship phone, it won't get out dated as fast.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
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The phones we have been discussing all have one thing in common, Verizon. I don't think Sprint will force HTC to do this and I doubt HTC is really wanting to lock the devs out.
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Can someone put this quote on repeat?
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No way. I'll keep the OG evo til a GSII shows up on sprint if we cant get full root. At least samsung never locks their stuff up.
Root, or die!
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The phones we have been discussing all have one thing in common, Verizon. I don't think Sprint will force HTC to do this and I doubt HTC is really wanting to lock the devs out.
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Maybe in the US, but it's happened in Europe too. Plus, I read somewhere that Verizon never asked HTC to lock down the bootloader.
I really think it's HTC's doing and I have a feeling it has something to do with that CPO, Kouji Kodera, they picked up from Sony Ericsson.
http://wmpoweruser.com/scary-htc-poaches-sony-ericsson-executives-to-streamline-product-development/
He's probably the guy who got SE to lock down their phones and now is doing it with HTC. Now that SE doesn't have him, they're starting to go the other direction.
Im definitely getting one. The geniuses on xda will figure it out.
EOD is evotastic!
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Maybe in the US, but it's happened in Europe too. Plus, I read somewhere that Verizon never asked HTC to lock down the bootloader.
I really think it's HTC's doing and I have a feeling it has something to do with that CPO, Kouji Kodera, they picked up from Sony Ericsson.
http://wmpoweruser.com/scary-htc-poaches-sony-ericsson-executives-to-streamline-product-development/
He's probably the guy who got SE to lock down their phones and now is doing it with HTC. Now that SE doesn't have him, they're starting to go the other direction.
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This makes a lot of sense. But I really hope you are wrong. For HTC to turn on it's current user base, many of which are involved in android dev, modding, etc at some level. And go in SE's direction would be enough for me to turn my back on HTC all together.
To my way of thinking, Android devices should not only be an open source OS, but should also provide an open development platform. Locking us out of devices that we pay good money for, and until now would have had a reasonable expectation to be able to do what we want with is just wrong.
i can live without root i think for this phone. The new sense on top of 2.3 is so smooth. I think it will happen though.
MarkGbe said:
i can live without root i think for this phone. The new sense on top of 2.3 is so smooth. I think it will happen though.
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I can live without root... But I really think my enjoyment of the phone would be drastically lower. A few of my every day apps require root permissions, my wifi teathering requires it...
Don't get me wrong, On hardware specs and stock software alone I am excited. But at the same time I have a big problem supporting a company that would slap us in the face like we are Motorola customers.
I guess we'll have to wait and see. But I am not going to jump on it right at the initial release date like I did with my current Evo.
Just saw this on HTC's Facebook page:
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
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I suspect the carriers can override this though.... If not though, I'll no longer have to restrict my next phone choice to one that I know is root-able !
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Just saw this on HTC's Facebook page:
I suspect the carriers can override this though.... If not though, I'll no longer have to restrict my next phone choice to one that I know is root-able !
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i heard about this awhile ago,, there are a few companies that will be following suite
Sweet! The Sensation is back on my list (the Function and G2x are the other 2, and I know 2 of those are T-Mobile)
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Verizon has stated they will allow rootable phones on their network!
Sweet hope they unlock the incredible 2.
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This is excellent news! Perhaps Motorola will review their policy on locked bootloaders.
I expect VZW to fight this in other ways. Like I seem to remember them trying to block tethering apps.
Stonent said:
I expect VZW to fight this in other ways. Like I seem to remember them trying to block tethering apps.
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Thats a tad different. Rooting doesn't directly make VZW lose any money, however tethering does.
Just in case someone gets the wrong idea, I don't support paying outrageous prices for tethering plans either. If the VWZ CEO's were more "customer smart", they would have considered lowering the cost of their plans, instead of just blocking the applications.
Ah well, money talks.
Any ideas on how soon this will go into effect?
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Any ideas on how soon this will go into effect?
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HTC's announcement has not gone into detail about timing or about whether existing phones will have upgrades with bootloaders that can be unlocked. So, the answer is, no.
My assumptions are that even if most phones available now are given upgrade opportunities, the Droid Eris will again be left in the dust and not receive this upgrade just like how unrooted phones are stuck on 2.1
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My assumptions are that even if most phones available now are given upgrade opportunities, the Droid Eris will again be left in the dust and not receive this upgrade just like how unrooted phones are stuck on 2.1
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We already have an unlocked bootloader for the Eris. It was leaked way back in early 2010; all early rooters (including me) have that bootloader.
That said, I agree that HTC will not be otherwise making the bootloader available to the Eris. The bigger question really is about the currently shipping phones - the Incredible 2, the Thunderbolt, and also a few phones set for imminent release (though I think those are all with other carriers.)
Okay I am speaking mainly to Developers/Devs here
To get all the information on this issue please visit my thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421341
I know this may not be in the right place to post, but I have had no luck after over two months of my thread being replied to and also being all over the internet (Droidlife, GSMARENA, phandroid etc...) so I'm trying to spread the word to ftully Fix/Solve the SMS/texting issue (Not being able to send texts) so the HTC Rezound can be a fully global phone
The suggested possible causes of the issue are either a Radio related problem, which would require porting/making a hybrid radio and also S-OFF. But the main one I am thinking sounds more worth trying for is the suggestion that the Framework is incorrect/needs a bit of tweaking and this would allow the HTC Rezound to send texts/SMS on GSM and/or HSPA networks (I use HSPA)
So please could someone willing look into this and try and fix/solve as this would be very beneficial to us all (being able to use this phone abroad/on holiday for example )
Also some people, including me, cannot connect to DATA/3G without a method which makes it 'kick in', so if this issue was also looked at it would be Great!!!
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I will also make a suitable donation amount to the Dev that solves this, and so far it looks like the donation fund will go to Joelz as he is the only Developer who has bothered to even look at the problem.
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i rule123 said:
Okay I am speaking mainly to Developers/Devs here
To get all the information on this issue please visit my thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421341
I know this may not be in the right place to post, but I have had no luck after over two months of my thread being replied to and also being all over the internet (Droidlife, GSMARENA, phandroid etc...) so I'm trying to spread the word to ftully Fix/Solve the SMS/texting issue (Not being able to send texts) so the HTC Rezound can be a fully global phone
The suggested possible causes of the issue are either a Radio related problem, which would require porting/making a hybrid radio and also S-OFF. But the main one I am thinking sounds more worth trying for is the suggestion that the Framework is incorrect/needs a bit of tweaking and this would allow the HTC Rezound to send texts/SMS on GSM and/or HSPA networks (I use HSPA)
So please could someone willing look into this and try and fix/solve as this would be very beneficial to us all (being able to use this phone abroad/on holiday for example )
Private message/PM me
i rule123
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Buddy, this isn't the right forum for this thread. I assume everyone who cares about this issue has seen your thread in the general forum. This is a Verizon phone. 99.9% of the people who own this phone are Verizon customers. There are very few people who care about this issue enough to do something about it. It is very unlikely that we are going to get S-Off as we can flash roms/kernels with what we have. Plus, the work that it would take to develop a hybrid radio would probably be significant.
That said. If everything except SMS works, how about just using email to SMS your friends or a free texting app? Yes, it is not ideal, but this phone is not meant to be used over anything aside from CDMA, EvDo, and LTE.
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Buddy, this isn't the right forum for this thread. I assume everyone who cares about this issue has seen your thread in the general forum. This is a Verizon phone. 99.9% of the people who own this phone are Verizon customers. There are very few people who care about this issue enough to do something about it. It is very unlikely that we are going to get S-Off as we can flash roms/kernels with what we have. Plus, the work that it would take to develop a hybrid radio would probably be significant.
That said. If everything except SMS works, how about just using email to SMS your friends or a free texting app? Yes, it is not ideal, but this phone is not meant to be used over anything aside from CDMA, EvDo, and LTE.
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So what you're saying, Con, is that he in fact doesn't rule as his screen name would suggest? Hmm. My world...tumbling.
And to the OP, will Google Talk work overseas? Wouldn't that be the best way since SMS doesn't work? Just a thought.
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So what you're saying, Con, is that he in fact doesn't rule as his screen name would suggest? Hmm. My world...tumbling.
And to the OP, will Google Talk work overseas? Wouldn't that be the best way since SMS doesn't work? Just a thought.
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basically lol... The people who use this to the hours spent making this happen ratio would be so low it wouldn't even be funny.
Okay guys
See when I ask nicely for people willing to help, I don't expect to see people telling me why it wouldn't work or people trying to be funny? And
And I said in the post if you read properly that the possible fix I would suggest Dev's to work on would be the Framework, NOT THE RADIO PROBLEM AS WE DON'T HAVE S-OFF
And this is XDA-Developers, the place where issues no matter how small can be solved
I will ignore this and say to everyone unless its helpful/Nice ,don't post
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Okay guys
See when I ask nicely for people willing to help, I don't expect to see people telling me why it wouldn't work or people trying to be funny? And
And I said in the post if you read properly that the possible fix I would suggest Dev's to work on would be the Framework, NOT THE RADIO PROBLEM AS WE DON'T HAVE S-OFF
And this is XDA-Developers, the place where issues no matter how small can be solved
I will ignore this and say to everyone unless its helpful/Nice ,don't post
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And to answer your only relevant question, no google talk is not avaliable anywhere other than USA .
i vote for this to be solved too. I travel overseas and enabling GSM portion will be a great deal to me.
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And to answer your only relevant question, no google talk is not avaliable anywhere other than USA .
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Pretty sure you can use it in England. Don't know why you wouldn't be able to use it elsewhere. It's just an extension of Gmail.
I thought GV is free in the US, costs money elsewhere.
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And to answer your only relevant question, no google talk is not avaliable anywhere other than USA .
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Google Talk is available outside of the USA, I know this because there are devs and mods that I converse with using talk that live outside the states.
Also, this is in the wrong place, moving to general.
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Google Talk is available outside of the USA, I know this because there are devs and mods that I converse with using talk that live outside the states.
Also, this is in the wrong place, moving to general.
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Oh sorry I was thinking of google voice ,yes I can use google talk, but people who I want to message have to have it aswell so also not very convenient
Still no takers
As stated previously by several people, no one is going to take you up on this.....the effort to use ratio is too low to make it worth it.
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Radio is deff not the issue here...the framework isn't 100% complete for the world feature to work 100%...ill look into it but it'd be better if I had an ics leak of the inc 2 to compare what's missing
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Radio is deff not the issue here...the framework isn't 100% complete for the world feature to work 100%...ill look into it but it'd be better if I had an ics leak of the inc 2 to compare what's missing
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Thanks Joe, you're the savior of the WORLD, literally
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Thanks Joe, you're the savior of the WORLD, literally
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If it's a framework issue that'd be amazing.
so i dont get what wrong ....is it the framework and port to other networks not finish or is it just frameworks to the device by it self.....
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Radio is deff not the issue here...the framework isn't 100% complete for the world feature to work 100%...ill look into it but it'd be better if I had an ics leak of the inc 2 to compare what's missing
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You are the best JoelZ! ,even to know that your looking into it is amazing
Been told that Joelz is working on the sms issue by comparing the framework to Incredible S to see whats missing!
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Been told that Joelz is working on the sms issue by comparing the framework to Incredible S to see whats missing!
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not incredible s...that won't help since its a gsm phone..looking through Verizon Droid Incredible 2 but very hard since its all gingerbread this would be easier if ics leaked for them
Is anyone else thinking that they might hold off on rooting there Evo lte? I mean, amazing camera, beats audio, screen shots, the latest sense, and ics? What extra purpose would rooting do? It has me thinking i might hold off on rooting my evo when i get it, but was wondering if anyone else had the same thoughts?
Yeah, the stock experience will be great, but I'll be needing root to remove bloat. Just seeing one sprint app on my phone makes me want to kill a squirrel or something...
rooting doesnt necessarily mean going straight to aosp. especially right at the beginning there will be root + stock to remove bloat while keeping all the Sense perks. I know im gonna be flashing a stock rom
i'll be rooting not only to remove apps i don't want; but also to tether.
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Is anyone else thinking that they might hold off on rooting there Evo lte? I mean, amazing camera, beats audio, screen shots, the latest sense, and ics? What extra purpose would rooting do? It has me thinking i might hold off on rooting my evo when i get it, but was wondering if anyone else had the same thoughts?
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Totally agree on that however I do see one large benefit to rooting... Battery life. That's what drove me to rooting in the first place. I would love a new kernel, SetCPU, and a stock-like ROM that had no bloatware.
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Totally agree on that however I do see one large benefit to rooting... Battery life. That's what drove me to rooting in the first place. I would love a new kernel, SetCPU, and a stock-like ROM that had no bloatware.
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Never really thought of the extras, I rooted my evo on the first day i got it to sense 3.0, never really been on stock longer than a day, i forgot you had to pay for tethering. lol, the only sprint app i keep is sprint zone to check my usage and upgrade even though i have unlimited. So i guess i will be rooting. I guess im gonna use my early upgrade, the galaxy iii kinda looks cheaply built.
In order of importance WiFi tether, landscape rosie, custom kernel (I got ideas), restore angry bird scores, and restore my lake navigation app (no longer in market)
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While on the subject, i can restore apps n data to that app to the evo lte when the time comes
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The stock experience will be awesome, but the devs here always find a way to make the phone better in every way.
Root: Android unlimited
Was just reading a thread in one X forum pointing out how HTC is now essentially using the dev unlock 'may' void your warranty to avoid doing any repairs to unlocked phones. Even HW repairs, pretty shady. It doesn't matter so much in the US, as we generally handle issues thru service providers, but I thought it was an informative read about HTCs policies moving forward.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
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Was just reading a thread in one X forum pointing out how HTC is now essentially using the dev unlock 'may' void your warranty to avoid doing any repairs to unlocked phones. Even HW repairs, pretty shady. It doesn't matter so much in the US, as we generally handle issues thru service providers, but I thought it was an informative read about HTCs policies moving forward.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
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Wasn't this an AT&T only thing? That they are making HTC lock the bootloader and not allowing dev unlock?
Part right. Yra. AT&T is forcing HTC to make unavailable HTCdev unlock. The point of that thread is that HTC realized that if they allow for bootloader unlock they can ignore any warrantee claim of any unlocked or relocked phone, even if issue is busted power button or screen. Read the thread. You'll see what I mean.
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Does anyone here know if the HTC EVO LTE for sprint will be rootable, or will it at least work with HTCDev? Thanks.
Any answer to that question will be a complete guess. That will not be answerable until the phone comes out.
It can be assumed that ALL android phones are rootable. Some just take more work then others. Other then that, we won't know anything until it exists.
souleman said:
Any answer to that question will be a complete guess. That will not be answerable until the phone comes out.
It can be assumed that ALL android phones are rootable. Some just take more work then others. Other then that, we won't know anything until it exists.
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Yeah, I figured that would be my answer, but I just curious if anyone had some insight from somewhere. But I just decided that I'm going to preorder the phone and cross my finger that some root will come out for the phone. Currently it appears to be the best phone on the market or coming out for the next few months, including the galaxy SIII phone.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
alaman68 said:
Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Agreed, can't wait for the release.
I need to get some more money, so im not clearing out my bank account and not have any money for food!! Very tough choice here, I have the order page ready to be filled out!! Just hoping someone comes to me tonight with some money, never know! Can only hope.
I'll ROOT in order to try to move my saved games from my Epic over to the new phone.
Gotta tether. Need the root
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Little by little, Android is becoming iOS. Starting to get very annoyed with the limitations in recent updates. First we get permalocked if we accepted 4.3 OTA update. Now I found out in 4.4, Google has prevented write access to external storage?! And there's no way around it without root? SIGH. Not not only can I not root my phone, but I can't even write to my SD card without plugging it into my PC? What's next, take away our widgets and ability to change launcher/interface? What happened to the old philosophy of Android? It's OUR devices and we should be able to do what we damn well please with them.
I and many others share your frustration!!
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Little by little, Android is becoming iOS. Starting to get very annoyed with the limitations in recent updates. First we get permalocked if we accepted 4.3 OTA update. Now I found out in 4.4, Google has prevented write access to external storage?! And there's no way around it without root? SIGH. Not not only can I not root my phone, but I can't even write to my SD card without plugging it into my PC? What's next, take away our widgets and ability to change launcher/interface? What happened to the old philosophy of Android? It's OUR devices and we should be able to do what we damn well please with them.
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Knox is next. Google said to be incorporating it in future builds..so yep..not getting any better
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ya and with 4.4 theres this icon of a shield that pops up daily for security updates i dont want them dont want anything else
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what we need is a way to erase everything off the phone bootloader included and start fresh
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ya and with 4.4 theres this icon of a shield that pops up daily for security updates i dont want them dont want anything else
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what we need is a way to erase everything off the phone bootloader included and start fresh
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That's not good enough. Sure for devices like the Note 2 it would allow a locked phone to become unlocked at any time. But what about devices that never got unlocked like the Note 3 and other future devices? This doesn't resolve their situations.
Also, yes I agree with you OP. I refuse to "upgrade" from this phone to anything else any time soon considering the way these phones are turning into locked up garbage. I'm so grateful for all the work modders and hackers managed to do with this device which allows me to run something as amazing as Cyanogenmod 11 right now. I saw what the stock 4.3+ ROM's look like, yuck. Imagining being stuck with that "forever" is like a nightmare only I'm awake.
Anyways there really is no better alternative to Android at the moment or foreseeable future. If you want a smartphone with even a hint of customizability then Android's your only option.
You are not seeing the big picture. If you want phones that you can hack away at and are not secure there are plenty out there. Verizon and AT&T teaming up with Samsung have gone after large military and commercial contracts with these phones. Therefore they have made efforts to make them as secure as possible. You can thank all the hackers in the world pulling email and banking information off your phones for that. And you probably can throw in thanks for the locked bootloader to all those that returned their bricked phones under warranty.
As I said, you have choices, Nexus, HTC, developer's editions....etc. You just need to do a little research before buying.
Agreed for many of the UI changes. But I understand. They have to appeal to Ma and Pa Kettle.
Hopefully at some point they will embrace custom ROMs with a special model like Linkysy did with their L model. But I'm guessing not.
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You are not seeing the big picture. If you want phones that you can hack away at and are not secure there are plenty out there. Verizon and AT&T teaming up with Samsung have gone after large military and commercial contracts with these phones. Therefore they have made efforts to make them as secure as possible. You can thank all the hackers in the world pulling email and banking information off your phones for that. And you probably can throw in thanks for the locked bootloader to all those that returned their bricked phones under warranty.
As I said, you have choices, Nexus, HTC, developer's editions....etc. You just need to do a little research before buying.
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Well said! This is why I'm leaving smasung and will be researching a diff phone for my next purchase/upgrade. LG G3 or HTC...not sure yet...
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Well said! This is why I'm leaving smasung and will be researching a diff phone for my next purchase/upgrade. LG G3 or HTC...not sure yet...
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I went to the HTC M8 and I hated HTC..it is a freaking fast phone!!! Unlocking and rooting was super easy! Won't have to worry about Knox until they upgrade it to L.
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I went to the HTC M8 and I hated HTC..it is a freaking fast phone!!! Unlocking and rooting was super easy! Won't have to worry about Knox until they upgrade it to L.
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Loved the look of that phone and I am not a HTC fan, but that phone looked good.. Contract is not up until next year and I think a move to a different carrier and phone manufacturer is in my future.. Just not sure what yet
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Loved the look of that phone and I am not a HTC fan, but that phone looked good.. Contract is not up until next year and I think a move to a different carrier and phone manufacturer is in my future.. Just not sure what yet
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I always liked the sense interface compared to TW, I've got till Jan, then I'm making a change. keep us posted on your choice L18, would love to run your ROMs!
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Little by little, Android is becoming iOS. Starting to get very annoyed with the limitations in recent updates. First we get permalocked if we accepted 4.3 OTA update. Now I found out in 4.4, Google has prevented write access to external storage?! And there's no way around it without root? SIGH. Not not only can I not root my phone, but I can't even write to my SD card without plugging it into my PC? What's next, take away our widgets and ability to change launcher/interface? What happened to the old philosophy of Android? It's OUR devices and we should be able to do what we damn well please with them.
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A fix is in the works.
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You are not seeing the big picture. If you want phones that you can hack away at and are not secure there are plenty out there. Verizon and AT&T teaming up with Samsung have gone after large military and commercial contracts with these phones. Therefore they have made efforts to make them as secure as possible. You can thank all the hackers in the world pulling email and banking information off your phones for that. And you probably can throw in thanks for the locked bootloader to all those that returned their bricked phones under warranty.
As I said, you have choices, Nexus, HTC, developer's editions....etc. You just need to do a little research before buying.
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None of the alternatives have the S-pen or any analogous stylus, which I regard as essential.
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None of the alternatives have the S-pen or any analogous stylus, which I regard as essential.
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Then perhaps a carrier that does not lock bootloader like Sprint or T-Mobile?
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Then perhaps a carrier that does not lock bootloader like Sprint or T-Mobile?
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Assuming I lived and traveled exclusively in areas where one of those carriers had a decent signal, that could be a good approach. Unfortunately that's not the case.