Roughly 6 months ago, I upgraded from a Backflip (my first Android phone!) to the Infuse. I immediately fell in love with Samsung's beautiful screen technology (which prompted the purchase of a Samsung laptop later on), and that was a great experience. I even hard-bricked an Infuse once and had to replace it. Good times.
A couple weeks ago, I purchased the SKYROCKET for $149 on AT&T Premier, by upgrading a second line of mine. It's everything the Infuse was, and more (better camera/video, faster in every way, etc.), EXCEPT: I discovered the problem with the screen calibration. For details, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337194 (want even more details on the issue? see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942)
Needless to say, I wasn't going to put up with the crappy screen problems, especially since I was still within 30 days. After a 3-way call with Premier and a "local" AT&T corporate store, I was able to swap the skyrocket out for a new OGSGSII, only paying the $50 difference and no restock fee. Within 2 hours, I had it rooted, ROM'd, and all of my ~70 apps back on it using TiBu.
I'll admit that the screen on the OGSGSII is not quite as nice as the Infuse. The screen doesn't get 100% pure "black" like the Infuse did, but it is still FAR superior to the Skyrocket.
Lastly, when I came to the Dev forums for OGSGSII, I found a very pleasant surprise: gtg465x and Entropy512 were here! These two were some of my favorite devs from the Infuse, and I'm rather ecstatic that they decided to make the jump from Infuse to this SGSII.
TL;DR: If you are still trying to decide between the Skyrocket (I-727) and the original SGS2 (I-777), DO NOT BUY THE SKYROCKET.
I spent a week with the skyrocket before getting my SII. My reasons:
Physical size: While the SR is only very slightly larger than the S2 (and on paper, the difference is measured in millimeters), I found the S2 easier to hold and manipulate.
Battery: The closest LTE area to me is about 5 hours away, but even in my non-LTE area, the battery life on the S2 seems to be considerably better than the SR. In theory, the SR should have a better battery life in my situation, but that wasn't how it worked out for me.
CIQ: Not even my wife is watching over my shoulder when I'm playing with my phone, and I have a serious problem with my phone sending that level of detail of my usage to AT&T. Not to mention that I wouldn't be surprised if someone discovered that the CIQ data being sent to AT&T is being charged as consumer used data (and therefore going against my monthly 4GB allotment.) SR has CIQ. S2 doesn't.
Development Support: Read the DEV subforum for the SR and compare it to the S2. Simple enough...
ICS: Samsung and AT&T projected timeline for releasing ICS on the SR: Eventually. Maybe. Once AT&T finds someone to port all their bloatware and CIQ to ICS. Should definately be available before the year 2016. Projected timeline for ICS on the AT&T version of the S2? None. However, I bet the S2 has it long before the SR does (simply because of the developer support mentioned above.)
Enjoy your phone,
Gary
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I spent a week with the skyrocket before getting my SII. My reasons:
Physical size: While the SR is only very slightly larger than the S2 (and on paper, the difference is measured in millimeters), I found the S2 easier to hold and manipulate.
Battery: The closest LTE area to me is about 5 hours away, but even in my non-LTE area, the battery life on the S2 seems to be considerably better than the SR. In theory, the SR should have a better battery life in my situation, but that wasn't how it worked out for me.
CIQ: Not even my wife is watching over my shoulder when I'm playing with my phone, and I have a serious problem with my phone sending that level of detail of my usage to AT&T. Not to mention that I wouldn't be surprised if someone discovered that the CIQ data being sent to AT&T is being charged as consumer used data (and therefore going against my monthly 4GB allotment.) SR has CIQ. S2 doesn't.
Development Support: Read the DEV subforum for the SR and compare it to the S2. Simple enough...
ICS: Samsung and AT&T projected timeline for releasing ICS on the SR: Eventually. Maybe. Once AT&T finds someone to port all their bloatware and CIQ to ICS. Should definately be available before the year 2016. Projected timeline for ICS on the AT&T version of the S2? None. However, I bet the S2 has it long before the SR does (simply because of the developer support mentioned above.)
Enjoy your phone,
Gary
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I completely agree with all of your statements. Well said!
I'm glad I stuck with my OGGSII. I don't think I would enjoy it as much without custom ROMS.
Oh, and that CIQ thingy isn't my taste. I use MIUI myself, which I don't believe has any tracking software. I'm getting a bit tired of it but touchwiz roms just aren't as good as MIUI overall.
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SGS2 by far...
I sold my Infuse to get an SGS2 and I have to be honest, I initially missed the big screen on the Infuse.
Still the Super Amoled Plus display on the SGS2 is great and colors are vivid if you use custom ROMs that allow to change between Dynamic, Standard and Movie.
Another strong difference between SGS2 and Skyrocket is the actual chipset, The Exynos is way better in performance than the Snapdragon, even it is 1.2 vs 1.5 Ghz
I live in Costa Rica and there is no such a thing as 4G or LTE yet, therefore it has no impact for me.
I simply love the SGS2 and as a proof you can visit this XDA site:
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/poll-vote-for-the-best-phone-of-2011/
Enough said
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I also strongly agree.
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Who cares that the original S2 can't display pure black? It's better than the Skyrocket, where black is the only color it can display properly. I can't believe you had to make a three-way call just to get an exchange (for a higher-priced phone too). Do these idiots at AT&T and Samsung realize their phone is defective? I can't believe they've been allowed to play dumb and feign ignorance for so long.
What kinda hands do you Infuse lovers have?? That was the MOST awkward and dev-crippled ATT retard I've ever owned, ever. As far as SR, its ATT crippled handset because an almost-clean S2 didn't tickle their crippling fancy, so that alone is enough to steer me clear of it.
So S2 only and only because its the 1st GOOD/uncrippled phone ATT released in the past 3 years...
Exchanging my SR for the OGSII on Monday, cant wait! What do you guys mean it doesnt display blacks? I thought all SAMOLEDS were the best at reproducing black?
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Exchanging my SR for the OGSII on Monday, cant wait! What do you guys mean it doesnt display blacks? I thought all SAMOLEDS were the best at reproducing black?
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The idiots are complaining about the line issue, which ONLY occurs in gray, not black.
All of those reasons are actually valid, unlike a lot of posts I see.
Lot of hate on this forum... probably because all of the Infuse owners came here... Well, no ragers for me!
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I am glad I got the s2.. I was a little disappointed that right after i bought the s2 the sky rocket was out cos I wanted the bigger screen. But after plying with it a lot I think the s2 performs way better. Both are great devices though.
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Hi all,
Just a simple question
When SGS2 gets ICS, will it beat Galaxy Nexus?
Please share ur thoughts
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I imagine it will take it down a dark alley and slap it around a bit yes....
apart from that, no idea what you are getting at
Yes. Lower res screen, better video and better cpu. Simple as that. I would like a HD screen tho'..
S2 has a better screen, faster processor and SD card expansion slot. It will be better with ICS IMO.
Ofcoz it will!!!
Its GPU is already better, and it has to render less pixels, so it will surely beat it.
depends what you mean by "beat it"
does it really matter though? will you stop enjoying your phone if it is no longer seen as top dog?
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S2 has a better screen, faster processor and SD card expansion slot. It will be better with ICS IMO.
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This is why I reckon well be in for a long wait b4 we see it on our s2' officially or untill nexus sales slow down
By "beat" do you mean like..an older man with daddy issues or performance/software wise? You sound a tad vague.
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I imagine it will take it down a dark alley and slap it around a bit yes....
apart from that, no idea what you are getting at
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Damn..Reached my thanks limit but dude you are one hell of guy..Best post for a while here in the forums
I think he means beat one off...?
As in wax the dolphin... spank the monkey etc.
Graphics performance-wise - the SGSII will blow the Nexus away. CPU wise, the Nexus has a slightly better processor (more memory bandwidth). Go read about it on the Galaxy Nexus forum in general. Nexus actually does have a slightly better CPU
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too bad the nexus phones come out 9 months after samsungs flagships do.. what's the point in upgrading to a nexus, when 3 months from now sgs3 will be announced, and rape the prime ..
I really do hope the sgs3 has led notifications ... bln is raping my battery, but its such a necessity..
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does it really matter though? will you stop enjoying your phone if it is no longer seen as top dog?
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Yup, if you're the type of person that gets their enjoyment out of being a show off.
Normal people supposedly bought the SGS2 because it fit their needs, how would the Galaxy Nexus make the Galaxy S2 less worthwhile of you? Unless of course, your goal is to have the latest and greatest, in which you should just wait and see which will be better and if the Nexus is better, pay some money and switch.
And I have to laugh at all the SGS2 owners in here defiantly saying the Galaxy Nexus has a poorer screen... sure the Nexus has a PenTile arrangement which on the face of it is a disappointment, but I'd personally wait until I see a Galaxy Nexus in person before passing judgement.
I did and it does not have gradient issue of sgs2 (actually all super amoled plus models, including infuse, i tried not just ours). Nuf said!
That does not mean I'm switching, in fact, no hell!
But screen on sgn is much better, you gotta give them that. Well you don't have to but it's the truth.
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And I have to laugh at all the SGS2 owners in here defiantly saying the Galaxy Nexus has a poorer screen... sure the Nexus has a PenTile arrangement which on the face of it is a disappointment, but I'd personally wait until I see a Galaxy Nexus in person before passing judgement.
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Can't agree more, sometimes we tend to rush to judge things too quickly.
And on topic, I do think the SGS2 will be awesome with ICS. Awesome enough to make 90% of SGS2 owners not feel like they need to switch. Think they'll generally still be on the same tier.
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Yup, if you're the type of person that gets their enjoyment out of being a show off.
Normal people supposedly bought the SGS2 because it fit their needs, how would the Galaxy Nexus make the Galaxy S2 less worthwhile of you? Unless of course, your goal is to have the latest and greatest, in which you should just wait and see which will be better and if the Nexus is better, pay some money and switch.
And I have to laugh at all the SGS2 owners in here defiantly saying the Galaxy Nexus has a poorer screen... sure the Nexus has a PenTile arrangement which on the face of it is a disappointment, but I'd personally wait until I see a Galaxy Nexus in person before passing judgement.
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+1 to you sir. Remember, most of the people here are Apple-haters and absolute GSII fanboys! Myself, I love my GSII and my iPhone 4S, and I can't wait to get a Galaxy Nexus!
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Graphics performance-wise - the SGSII will blow the Nexus away. CPU wise, the Nexus has a slightly better processor (more memory bandwidth). Go read about it on the Galaxy Nexus forum in general. Nexus actually does have a slightly better CPU
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No matter which way you put it, the cpu slaps the nexus cpu around and it shows. Played with one today. Also, the screen is better on sgs2. Not hating, just disappointed
It already beats the nexus in terms of hardware and just about everything else... the nexus just has 4G of which isn't even useful to 99% of the world (no ssrsly). Oh and ICS... which isn't that big of a deal at all.
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Yup, if you're the type of person that gets their enjoyment out of being a show off.
Normal people supposedly bought the SGS2 because it fit their needs, how would the Galaxy Nexus make the Galaxy S2 less worthwhile of you? Unless of course, your goal is to have the latest and greatest (what???), in which you should just wait and see which will be better and if the Nexus is better, pay some money and switch.
And I have to laugh at all the SGS2 owners in here defiantly saying the Galaxy Nexus has a poorer screen... sure the Nexus has a PenTile arrangement which on the face of it is a disappointment, but I'd personally wait until I see a Galaxy Nexus in person before passing judgement.
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Do you know anything about either phones, let alone spelling? If you put an 'a' in definitely then you're definitely an a-hole.
P.S. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4219
The SGS2 beats the Nexus in almost everything... :/
Nexus:
No MicroSD
Only 5MP Camera
Only 1.3MP Secondary Camera
No Radio (this is a big letdown to some)
Half as much 'quoted' talk time when compared to the SGS2.
No Gorilla Glass????
Overpriced (given the above)
SGS2:
No 4G
No ICS (Yet)
Hardly an 'Upgrade' from the SGS2.. ICS isn't that much better than Gingerbread. On top of that who really needs 4G?
But hey, don't take it from me, I don't know crap all about the Nexus. Though I do know my own SGS2 inside out.
I agree with 'soraxd' the SGS3 is going to tear the newest iPhone (lol what a joke) to shreds and absolutely squash any hopes of any manufacturer getting even close.
Believe it lol!
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/mzlcg/sgs2_ics_port_not_happening_until_samsung/
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+1 to you sir. Remember, most of the people here are Apple-haters and absolute GSII fanboys! Myself, I love my GSII and my iPhone 4S, and I can't wait to get a Galaxy Nexus!
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I wish I could have as many phones as you.. What do you even need all 3 phones for
Granted, the writer is using an unlocked version of the Galaxy Nexus, so there aren't the network issues we've all come to know & hate, he basically says the phone itself is lacking, and ICS is GREAT! Can't wait til our "premium" phone gets it!
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=...as-pulse+%28Android+Atlas+-+CNET+for+Pulse%29
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The only real low points on the hardware was the camera, and the build quality. The camera on the RAZR is nothing to write home about.. and I've never had an issue with Samsung build quality before...it's just uses a lot of plastic.
To me the more plastic, the less quality. It's a direct relationship as far as quality 'feel' goes.
My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
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I would never say one camera is better than another based off megapixels...it's a meaningless bullet point spec. That said...it looks like it may simply not be that great of a camera based off the OTHER more important specs. Looks like it's the same module as seen in the Galaxy/Nexus S...which was "okay" but not nearly on the same level as the SGS II, or the newer iphones.
I would like some help,
Is the phone heat going up to 120F/49C some thing this phone can take or Is that bad.
P.S My S2 never has gone to more than 113F.
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All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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Actual space is 27.3g free, of which apps and data share this same space. As far as tunes in the cloud, MUCH better on battery life to play local on device. Not to mention if in area with weak or no coverage.
as far as camera is concerned on our devices, the sensor is fine, the problem I think has to do with the software and compression.
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I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
Actually I once thought that I'll get a Galaxy Nexus, but as soon as I knew that there's no 32GB version available here, I just go for the razr...
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I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
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Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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Where did you hear that?
4ktvs said:
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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I call bull.
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Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
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Kinda feel the same way, as long as the galaxy nexus comes out before Xmas day as that's my last returnable day.
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I'm feeling the same way. I love the feel of the phone but there are teo major faults that have me thinking I should return it.
The battery is dire. It's nearly out of charge and it is only six hours since it was at 100%.
The wifi reception is beyond bad. I can see six or seven networks with my three year old HTC Hero whereas I only just manage to connect to my own network.
It's a simply beautiful phone but I need it to last a full day and be able to switch to different networks as I move around.
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I do agree, wi-fi is a little bit weaker on this one as on my desire before, but could connect to all my networks. Real test will happen on monday for wi-fi at the airport, as this was weak on desire also.
Regarding battery life, I really cannot complain, played with the phone on wi-fi for hours ( browsing). From my point of view the battery life is ok.
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I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
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For those of us who want a solidly built, robust and quality device the RAZR stomps all over the Nexus from the inside out. I agree that the specs of the Nexus come out ahead and yes it certainly is the more "playful" device for us but that doesn't really matter when it's built like a Samsung. No offence to Samsung but this Moto feels like quality and is quality and sometimes having a stronger foundation is more beneficial in the long run.
Who else goes through the trouble of EMI protection like Moto.
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Dude, research before you said that more EMI shields is a better thing. The reason they need that many is because they had to put every chip on the same side of the PCB. With chips on different side they can use the PCB ground plane as EMI shield so you would see less.
I just got this phone without realizing that the skyrocket was better. (I don't have 4g in my area). I recently found out that it was better from a hardware standpoint.
According to AT&T, i have 30 days to swap out the phone (for a fee). Should I go ahead and do it?
My main concern with the Skyrocket, is that it will not have as much development, or ICS roms. Is this valid?
In before op is flame broiled.
Skyrocket isn't better btw.
Why don't you go through both forum and do some reading. No one can or should really tell you what you should do.
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Why don't you go through both forum and do some reading. No one can or should really tell you what you should do.
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I really have, there isn't really a definitive answer as to what will happen in the future. I'm sure that someone knows better than me what will happen.
Actually you have it backwards. The original is better. I have the Sprint version which has the same specs as the original GSII. The skyrocket has a Snapdragon. The original/Sprint versions have the Exynos processor which SMOKES the Snapdragon, especially for games but also for processing things. Also, LTE is a waste of battery; HSPA+ is plenty fast. And you'll get more ROMS for the original since it's basically an i9100T (international GSII with NFC)
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If your area doesn't even have 4G, then why would you care about the Skyrocket?
Better hardware? I wouldn't say so.
Yes, its processor is 1.5GHz but different chipset.
And beside a bit bigger in size, I don't think it's better in any way.
Anyway, again, this is your phone, it is your choice, make your own decision what best for you.
Just keep the i777, the Skyrocket is NOT better.
As said before, the Exynos mops the floor with the Skyrockets snapdragon.
Personally if I was you I would stick with the phone you have. If you're within your 30 day window and want to change I would go with the galaxy note and not the skyrocket.
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Better from a hardware standpoint??? Huh??? All I can suggest at this point is... read bro. Keep reading until the realization hits that your original post is incorrect.
Man and i thought we were finally done with these threads
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I actually went the other way. I swapped out a skyrocket for the og gs2. Just because the hardware is better on the I777.
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I'm gonna give you a final answer:
- 1.2 GHz Exynos Processor (Faster and more efficient, MUCH more powerful Mali 400 GPU) vs 1.5 GHz Snapdragon CPU (1.2 vs 1.5 means nothing; it's a higher frequency to try and compensate for a slower architecture)
- HSPA+ vs LTE; HSPA+ is still very fast and doesn't use any extra battery, whereas LTE uses a LOT of battery (and I know people with a Skyrocket who complain about battery life all the time). You're also not in a 4G area, so it shouldn't matter.
- You're either on a 2GB plan or a [throttled] Unlimited plan, so going with the Skyrocket will either use up your data faster or you'll be throttled regardless.
- The original GSII has the same internals as the i9100T (International Galaxy S II w/NFC), so you'll get MUCH more support than on a Skyrocket.
- Exynos Samsung phones are said to have better quality screens (and it's been shown in the T-Mobile GSII forums [same internals as Skyrocket]).
In other words, go with the original GSII.
Well, from my standpoint (skyrocket owner) The skyrocket definitely looks nicer. The bigger screen in nice, although 4.3" is great as well. You'd think the resolution would be worse than the original, but it is virtually the same. And my eyes are picky, too.
For those of you who say the OG sII is faster, get real. Yes the exynos processor is faster and more efficient on benchmark and spec sheets, but both processors are silky smooth when using the phones in real world circumstances.
In terms of battery life, I have owned both; and I will say that in a non LTE area, they get the same battery life(give or take). In an lte area, the skyrocket will definitely lose, but it will be much, much quicker on the internet
Finally, dev support. Yes the original has great dev support. However because exynos does not support lte, manufacturers will be making more phones with the snapdragon 8860. Which in turn will mean that most devices(and ROMs) that run on 8860 can and will be ported to the skyrocket.
In the end, I chose the skyrocket. Why? Because when I go to sell it in 6-12 months, it will have worked just as well as the original sII, and it will have a much higher resale value due to LTE.
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For those of you who say the OG sII is faster, get real. Yes the exynos processor is faster and more efficient on benchmark and spec sheets, but both processors are silky smooth when using the phones in real world circumstances.
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So what you're really trying to say here is the OG SII is faster
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So what you're really trying to say here is the OG SII is faster
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The OG is faster. It has the Mali-400 GPU, which is a hell of a lot more powerful than whatever the Snapdragon's packing. This is coming from someone with a GSII and who also had an Evo 3D for a while. Even if you overclock the 3D's CPU to 1.5 GHz from 1.2, it doesn't hold a candle to the GSII. It's immediately noticeable not only when playing games, but also when processing things. You won't notice it while going through the app drawer, like the guy said, but when you actually DO things, you'll notice.
Obviously Skyrocket fans are going to love their skyrockets and say its better. OG (i777) SGII owners will say they love their phone and its better (because it is )
My thoughts: If you own a i777 and want to trade it in for the Skyrocket, then try it... because if you are even thinking about it, you obviously arent a dev nor do you really use your phone and all its features to the fullest so you probably wont notice any differences under the hood. Whats probably pulling you away is the bigger screen and the white finish. Go ahead and go, go trade it in for the Skyrocket.
One less thread started to ask "why is my battery draining so fast?".
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Obviously Skyrocket fans are going to love their skyrockets and say its better. OG (i777) SGII owners will say they love their phone and its better (because it is )
My thoughts: If you own a i777 and want to trade it in for the Skyrocket, then try it... because if you are even thinking about it, you obviously arent a dev nor do you really use your phone and all its features to the fullest so you probably wont notice any differences under the hood. Whats probably pulling you away is the bigger screen and the white finish. Go ahead and go, go trade it in for the Skyrocket.
One less thread started to ask "why is my battery draining so fast?".
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The solution to that would be to go to Sprint and get the Epic 4G Touch, which is basically an i777 with a 4.5 inch screen and also available in white
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I wouldn't touch a LTE device right now. I would wait until VoLTE comes included and when they put LTE band support in AWS(1700/2100), PCS(1900) and Cellular(850) bands. In 1 year when 700mhz is saturated, you will have to deal with slower speeds due to At&t's constrained spectrum in that particular band. These above mentioned features will supposedly be supported towards the end of the year or early next year.
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Finally, dev support. Yes the original has great dev support. However because exynos does not support lte, manufacturers will be making more phones with the snapdragon 8860. Which in turn will mean that most devices(and ROMs) that run on 8860 can and will be ported to the skyrocket.
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WRONG. CPU is only a small part of the portability equation. All of the other peripherals on the device make a difference too. This is why, for example, you'll never see HTC firmwares running on the SR or T989 despite having the same CPU as many HTCs.
Basically, the Skyrocket has a unique hardware configuration that has NOTHING in common with any other device beyond the T-Mobile T989. It only has the CPU in common with other Qualcomm Snapdragon-based phones, and nothing in common with Exynos-based devices.
As an example of what happens when a device has the same CPU but different peripheral hardware - look at the state of the Infuse. It has the same CPU as the Nexus S and original Galaxy S series (other than a small speed bump to 1.2 GHz), but significantly different peripherals, which means it has major trouble leveraging development for other devices with the same CPU.
Also look at the state of development on Infuse - they have almost nothing beyond Hellraised I9000/Captivate ROMs, which they at least have due to that 70% or so hardware commonality with the I9k/Cappy. Note how many of their developers (including myself) got frustrated with the device and gave it up, even with this relatively high commonality. (That remaining 30% was a major pain in the ass... Including a ****ty Bluetooth chipset not used by any other phone on the planet I knew of.) The Skyrocket can, at best, "Hellraise" from the T-Mobile T989 community and that's most likely all it will ever be able to pull from.
Basically, Skyrocket is Infuse v2 - It takes everything that was bad development-wise about the Infuse and makes it even worse.
i want all of your opinions on whether or not trade my iphone 4. unloackable for the galaxy NOTE.. can you tell me how long does the battery last on your phone and if it is worth to trade it
thanks
I used to carry both an iphone and an Android phone. After getting the note, I sold my iphone and use android full time.
the battery life is fine. if you are a heavy user, carry a spare battery.
I just switched from an iPhone 4 to the Note about 2 weeks ago. I have absolutely no regrets switching. I have always had an iPhone from the first one in 2007 up until 2 weeks ago and never saw myself switching because of how the build quality of apple and smoothness of iOS was. When I used a note for the first time it blew me away the progress that android has made over the years. While I still don't think the overall build quality of this phone is iPhone status everything else is better. As far as battery goes, unless you plan on trying to go multiple days without charging then it is a non issue. It gets through a day just fine. I will say the battery life does drop faster than my iPhones did but there's really no difference to me as the note gets me through the day with plenty to spare and I charge it every night anyway. Once you get a Note you'll wonder why you used such a small screen before.
I know the screen is really small on iphone .. I used the htc titan before .. N i am thinking of trading it . For a Note but im still in doubt .. Since i am with tmobile . The internet might be the same unless i put the hack to get 4G ..
Is the camera good on the note ?
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I know the screen is really small on iphone .. I used the htc titan before .. N i am thinking of trading it . For a Note but im still in doubt .. Since i am with tmobile . The internet might be the same unless i put the hack to get 4G ..
Is the camera good on the note ?
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the camera is brilliant.....great pics. i take pictures and can zoom in on the smallest details of that pic and see it clearly.
The battery life won't be quite as good add your iPhone, but it will still last you through a full day. I can pull about 16 hours total with 4 hours of screen time on a charge, but I try not to look at my phone for 25% of the day anyways. The screen will make you laugh at your iPhone. The iPhone has slightly higher pixel density, but once you go Super AMOLED HD, you won't go back. The SPen also brings more usefulness than you would think. Also, with Android, even without rooting and ROMing, you can still use rings of different kings of launchers, change how your icons look, use different keyboards, and perhaps the oldest argument, view flash content.
Don't get me wrong, I like the design of iPhones, minus the small screen, and their software does run smoothly, but after 3 Android phones there is no way I could go back. IPhones are just too limited for my tastes. With my 3g, I felt like I had a nice phone that could play some cool games. With my Note, I feel like I'm carrying with a tiny computer with limitless tools at my disposal. I also like when other people pick up my phone and have no clue how to use it, but it is still way more streamlined for my own personal use than an iPhone would be.
With Android you decide how you use your phone, not Apple.
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I have ALWAYS blackballed Apple for the proprietary BS... I had to bend once when my wife brought home an ipod she found. I was pretty upset that I had to deflower my xpsl702x with itunes. I am ashamed of myself for allowing this to happen, but I would have been more ashamed of myself for not following my wifes requests.
Traded my iPhone 4 for a Note and I love it
I was a die hard apple zombie.. I once believed like all others that apple would cure world hunger. I traded my iphone 4 for a Motorola artrix then a international galaxy s2 then a skyrocket and now a galaxy note.. I CAN SEE CLEARLY NOW THE RAIN IS GONE..
you will love the note..
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I wrote a review - coming from an iPhone 4S to the Note:
http://isource.com/2012/04/07/review-samsung-galaxy-note-oversized-iphone-killer/
(Only posting a link since it's applicable to the OP).
Short version - I don't regret the decision. You might depending on you love for iOS.
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A picture is worth a thousands words!
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My battery life is actually better with the note then my iPhone 4 was
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Trade it, I have the iPhone 4 at home. It's nothing special.
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There are a lot of Note users that came from the iPhone. I havent seen any regrets so far. I too came from the iPhone 4 to the Original GS2 then skyrocket...then the Note. It just got better everytime. Some iPhone users are way too stubborn to switch but I rather have choices than to "accept" what they give me.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
alright well I'm gonna trust you guys that the camera its really good quality thats what I'm more concern on.. cuz i am a picture fanatic...i wil b trading it for the note... if i don't like it how much are the notes selling for more less any idea ??
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alright well I'm gonna trust you guys that the camera its really good quality thats what I'm more concern on.. cuz i am a picture fanatic...i wil b trading it for the note... if i don't like it how much are the notes selling for more less any idea ??
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I like the camera on this phone more than the one on my old ip4. I can't speak for the 4s, but the note has a better camera than ip4.
You also have many more options inside the camera and quick options for uploading images to various apps from within the gallery.
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do you experience any lag on the note??
ii will trade it but I'm afraid the size of the screen will b too much ...
has any of you tyried the 4g hack for tmobile also?
i chickened out on getting the note when i saw the size in person..im a iphone user 4 years and omg the iphone is so small i cant go back to it too small..youll get use to the size of the note..not really pocket friendly but depends on person to person..as for battery give it time to cycle and it will improve..but battery life depends on settings/use/rooted ect.. i love my note but sadly i have another pixel issuse so this one is going back to hopeful get another one with no pixel problems.. only thing i dont like is the camera speed capture its slow for me..battery could have been a 3000mah to give it a bit extra use..sometimes it lags depends how much ram your using and crash some apps could be bugs.. im stock GB..waiting for ICS real one..dont want to install root stuff right now
i switched from iphone to and i love my note will never go back to apple. my batt life is equal to my iphone so no complaints
Do it! If you don't like it I'll happly trade you an iphone 4 32gb unlocked with ssh saved for every firmware plus an otterbox case.
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Hello guys. What were you actually expecting from Samsung Galaxy S3? Why I asked is because of reading few people's comment on it saying- "Samsung fail", "Not worth ed". Did you all expect Samsung to stuff in a super computer in a 8.6mm phone?
Now, you might say "that's MY opinion". I guess you are right.
But let's think something deep-
1) All you are asking for is 2GB RAM. Why? I could never cross 550MB in my S2.
2) 12MP? Well that might be even what I wanted. But Samsung fully concentrated on software tweeks.
3) The design is poor- I don't agree. What I agree is the build quality is cheap.
What do you guys say? I think S3 will be a hit
I was expecting )
1-ultra amoled hd 3d display
2- near 2gb ram because many games and apps is future will require more and more ram.
3-better shape design.
4-well camera has been improved even it is 8mp.
5-hd resolution ......
Others were fulfilled basically the software features are awesome but design and shape is pathetic and as for hardware nothing is new or special I believe it depends what people expected from then .....
Ok wait WORST PART#### Samsung galaxy s3 featuring exynos is bad As sense 2.1/30.3.5/4.0.+
Would never be ported As it will be impossible reason - exynos chip does not support sense we would need to remake the ui ....
I will stick to S2!!!
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There should be a forth question in the poll:
"Undecided, waiting to see it up close"
I'd want full hd display with 3d;2 giga of ram and a better gpu but I gonna to by s3 anyway!I really liked the design and these upgrade is good enough for me
I was explecting multiple versions of the device.
I would have liked to see one with a full QWERTY keyboard.
I would have like to seen one with no physical buttons.
I would have also liked to have seen one with pur ICS.
I watched the entire unpacked, and all I could think was, I can't wait for me to get my hands on one and flash CM9.
The S2 has never let me down performance wise so I expect much the same from S3.
However, my only disappointment is the look of the phone. It looks so S1. Major letdown.
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OP raises a good point. Question is whether our expectations were too high or too unrealistic??
Just image, if there were no high-end phones from Samsung after SGS2 (assuming Note and GNex didn't exist). If we look in this way, SGS3 is a decent upgrade from SGS2. We can't expect them to give a gigantic upgrade compared to Note/GNex when these phones are roughly 6 months old. Idea is that, compare SGS3 to SGS2 and see what you are getting extra. It's unfair comparing it to GNex.
1] Change in design -- for better or worse, that upto you to decide.
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2] Better SoC -- upgraded CPU and GPU.
3] Better resolution, even if you consider the PenTile. If we talk about sub-pixels, we are looking at 60% more sub-pixels compared to RGB matrix in SGS2.
4] Better camera quality even though the resolution is same. Check comparison between SGS3 vs SGS2 camera shots here
5] Bigger battery and more storage options.
I thought they would be able to produce a RGB matrix HD SAMOLED. Clearly, there is still some technical/engineering challenges. Hopefully they will do it in Note 2.
As for 2GB RAM, I would like someone to do a test and figure how many applications running simultaneously are required to fill 1GB.
Sadman Sakib said:
Hello guys. What were you actually expecting from Samsung Galaxy S3? Why I asked is because of reading few people's comment on it saying- "Samsung fail", "Not worth ed". Did you all expect Samsung to stuff in a super computer in a 8.6mm phone?
Now, you might say "that's MY opinion". I guess you are right.
But let's think something deep-
1) All you are asking for is 2GB RAM. Why? I could never cross 550MB in my S2.
2) 12MP? Well that might be even what I wanted. But Samsung fully concentrated on software tweeks.
3) The design is poor- I don't agree. What I agree is the build quality is cheap.
What do you guys say? I think S3 will be a hit
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You've never crossed 550mb? You're not using your phone then.
I agree with the excessiveness of a 12mp camera though. Design is in the eye of the beholder by yes plastic is cheap even Though it has it's advantages. I just hope the phone doesn't get so hot like the sgs2
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don2012 said:
I was expecting )
1-ultra amoled hd 3d display
2- near 2gb ram because many games and apps is future will require more and more ram.
3-better shape design.
4-well camera has been improved even it is 8mp.
5-hd resolution ......
Others were fulfilled basically the software features are awesome but design and shape is pathetic and as for hardware nothing is new or special I believe it depends what people expected from then .....
Ok wait WORST PART#### Samsung galaxy s3 featuring exynos is bad As sense 2.1/30.3.5/4.0.+
Would never be ported As it will be impossible reason - exynos chip does not support sense we would need to remake the ui ....
I will stick to S2!!!
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Thanks for your opinion. I really appreciate the link u provided about launchers...thanks
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There should be a forth question in the poll:
"Undecided, waiting to see it up close"
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Haha....you got one buddy
rd_nest said:
OP raises a good point. Question is whether our expectations were too high or too unrealistic??
Just image, if there were no high-end phones from Samsung after SGS2 (assuming Note and GNex didn't exist). If we look in this way, SGS3 is a decent upgrade from SGS2. We can't expect them to give a gigantic upgrade compared to Note/GNex when these phones are roughly 6 months old. Idea is that, compare SGS3 to SGS2 and see what you are getting extra. It's unfair comparing it to GNex.
1] Change in design -- for better or worse, that upto you to decide.
2] Better SoC -- upgraded CPU and GPU.
3] Better resolution, even if you consider the PenTile. If we talk about sub-pixels, we are looking at 60% more sub-pixels compared to RGB matrix in SGS2.
4] Better camera quality even though the resolution is same. Check comparison between SGS3 vs SGS2 camera shots here
5] Bigger battery and more storage options.
I thought they would be able to produce a RGB matrix HD SAMOLED. Clearly, there is still some technical/engineering challenges. Hopefully they will do it in Note 2.
As for 2GB RAM, I would like someone to do a test and figure how many applications running simultaneously are required to fill 1GB.
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Best comment so far!!
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I wanted
different material, not plastic again
screen edge to edge
1080p
1st phone to feature a well done edge to edge screen will score some major points, that would have been amazing for this phone.
Samsung galaxy s gti9000=looks like everyone can use preferred as from.now (old beauty ) but.looks a bit .... And is outdated
Samsung galaxy.s2 gti9100= looks manly phone and nice and not outdate looks cool and hot just wish it had a bigger scrrenn
Samsung galaxy s3= wow looks freaking ...... Like cow **** ewww nooooo .. Good specs(nothing new in specs)... ..awsome software features which R going to be ported.to s2
If some one finds the s3 firmware please pm me i will start porting the software features!!!!
My greatest wish for the SGS-III have been granted; a notification led.
Thank you Samsung!