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With so many windows phones from HTC (Touch HD, Touch Pro, HD2) having Android builds for them and have shown they can run Android on these systems, I was wondering if you think its worth for someone with knowledge to try and port the Windows Phone 7 builds on Xperia X10 ?
Prima facie, it has the necessary hardware requirements such as three buttons, 1 GHz processor, enough RAM etc !!!
What do you think and will anyone be interested in trying ?
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With so many windows phones from HTC (Touch HD, Touch Pro, HD2) having Android builds for them and have shown they can run Android on these systems, I was wondering if you think its worth for someone with knowledge to try and port the Windows Phone 7 builds on Xperia X10 ?
Prima facie, it has the necessary hardware requirements such as three buttons, 1 GHz processor, enough RAM etc !!!
What do you think and will anyone be interested in trying ?
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i think win 7 requires 512 mb ram.. x10 has only 384..
nd why would u want wm7 on x10 either.. seems wm7 is turning out to be pure crap!!
Too early for speculation
Why not buying an Windows 7 phone ... why the hell somebody will put such an ugly OS on the wonderful X10?
cvchetan said:
i think win 7 requires 512 mb ram.. x10 has only 384..
nd why would u want wm7 on x10 either.. seems wm7 is turning out to be pure crap!!
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it only needs 256 as ms said not 512
WP7 looked really nice at first. But Microsoft have gone too far with the nazi-like apple control. It's way too locked down, phones wont even have memory card slots.
Dont support these types of OS and behavior people, it's not the way forward.
Beanyness said:
nazi-like apple control.
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i piss in my pants! Thats a good one! never heard it! ( i am from Germany and NO nazi!)
Beanyness said:
wont even have memory card slots.
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Not 100% sure. i did read both: that they do not allow card slots and that phones come out with one. (i think i read it with a DELL phone anywhere in the www 1 week ago)
Is this possible? 'cause i would like to play around with something new for our x10
If someone can validate the possibility in doing so,then i will try to work on this.
Sincerely Flame
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Is this possible? 'cause i would like to play around with something new for our x10
If someone can validate the possibility in doing so,then i will try to work on this.
Sincerely Flame
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Possible? Yeah, it's definitely possible. The X10 shares the same QSD8250 and Adreno 200 that the HD2 has (that has a port of WP7). But other than that, I don't think anyone really has the motivation to do the immense work that would be required to get WP7 running on the X10 (driver issues as there isn't similar enough hardware that's running WP7 as the X10)... not to mention that the bypass method may not be enough (I may be wrong as they've gotten Backtrack and Win95 running, lol)
ok thanks for the information undone i will pm some devs and hope they write me back. at least this would make a little bit more fun than watching all those threads getting some new roms upped
and this could also help us to improve our devices
Sincerely Flame
Edit: seems as if this will be for now a one man Show.
So please be patient ;D
Flamefaker said:
Is this possible? 'cause i would like to play around with something new for our x10
If someone can validate the possibility in doing so,then i will try to work on this.
Sincerely Flame
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sounds charming to me... that wud be a good idea... i think
i prefer ics more than wp7...
i think windows 7 is not good for x10
getting a new OS is always a better option why not try it??
You can download Launcher 7 and all WP7 apps from market and you will get an awesome WP7 experience
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Realy ?? Why we don't try ?? What we have to losse?? Can the dev try this ??
Xperia x10i
Android version : 2.3.9
Kernel : DoomKernel v6
Rom : FeraLab v14
Addons : Xperia S
I suppose it can be done I had windows 95 on mine at one point for a laugh (its somewhere on here how to do it). Although not sure bout win 7 thinking bout it it uses some serious RAM, something our dear phones lack.
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Let's be realistic this will probably never happen. And why would someone waste time porting wp7 os to our x10 . If you want wp7 os get a win7phone.
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as we all know we will be getting an update for multitouch
what would you guys prefer?
2.2 (free x10) or 2.1 with multi touch?
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as we all know we will be getting an update for multitouch
what would you guys prefer?
2.2 (free x10) or 2.1 with multi touch?
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well obviously 2.1 with multitouch has an advantage over 2.2 AOSP atm because one, 2.2 AOSP is still in development theres still work gotta be done, camera and stability etc, two, 2.1 with multitouch update would run superb on the X10 because its been developement and fully polished but one thing about 2.2 is, is that its ton faster than 2.1
but for me im sticking to my 2.2 AOSP atm with Gingerbread theme atm, i dont really need a camera anyways
i would say free x10 its perfectly stable other then the well known issues that causes the system to reboot, and once the update from SE comes out with MT im sure J and Z will be able to port it to 2.2 hopefully without too much hassle so it should be available on both the 2.1 and 2.2.
Fx10 is about as good as it gets for the x10 right now and its my daily rom and plenty stable for everyday use (at least for me). so thats my choice, if you need a camera though it seems Z is working his but off on it and has gotten something working so perhaps the next update will bring it to us.
2.1
with some mods.
I've just been re-reading the official Sony comparison of their Gingerbread and ICS offering. This time I've had the chance to read more properly all the things they said. For the first time I actually have sympathy for Sony. The manufacturers bring out phones (e.g. SE) with the Xperias 2011 all running Gingerbread from the very start, then the next Google upgrade wipes out the phones. I owned the 2010 X10 Mini and our phone got wiped out the same way. It seems to me that we consumers do not benefit. Anyone who comes to this forum is already a bit of tech. nut, we are a very small population of the whole market, of course we want to try what's new and hot. But in this blog, Sony is explicitly saying that ICS is much, much more demanding on system resources and that we will definitely see a fall in performance, they clearly reference longer boot up time, apps force closing and stalling as well as poor video performance for different reasons that they explain in the blog.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...nical-differences-between-gingerbread-and-ics
Now I want to wait before I upgrade and check out the news. A few new icons and wallpapers is NOT good enough reason for me to upgrade. Better battery is a good reason to wait, which in that blog, Sony says you will get with Gingerbread over ICS. Do we really benefit here? Do we have to buy a new phone every year now, because Google is bumping up the demands of Android, like Microsoft did with Windows Vista? Windows 7 has less requirements than Vista, only slightly, and 8 has the same requirements as 7 so at least we could use the same laptop/pc for a few years. With Google, the way they are doing this is screwing us over I think.
For you, stay with Gingerbread, move to ICS, not sure or want to wait?
Ray users say they havent experienced any major bugs... Battery is definitely poor for now.....
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I think on the minis and active devices we have the advance of having a smaller resolution area while having almost the same hardware as the other xperia 2011
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They are really both very good points: we can look to the current Sony beta roms for more clues and it is true, our smaller screen being powered by the same CPU is an advantage. Perhaps we Mini users will have the least trouble amongst the 2011 Xperias?
Gingerbread would still be the most dominant OS, due to its stability on most phones,
having a new OS or phone is not always the best option.
I really thank the devs here in XDA, they are keeping old phones alive,
giving us a chance to have a taste of the new flavor and further improving stock OS on current phones.
I just recently read about the Xperia S Rom ported to Xperia X10 here, how cool is that...?
I'll choose the custom ICS rom.. sony and other manufacturer has done nothing but giving us all those bloatware while calling it "feature" rather than craps. + I see upgrade as change in UI, but sony's ICS UI has not change much compared to GB
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you can always remove the bloatwares , though of course with custom roms we can do a lot of things which are still restricted even with a rooted stock rom
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I'll choose the custom ICS rom.. sony and other manufacturer has done nothing but giving us all those bloatware while calling it "feature" rather than craps. + I see upgrade as change in UI, but sony's ICS UI has not change much compared to GB
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If you want a different UI, just use a different home.apk? Just saying...
But yea i'm with the OP on these thoughts, have had the same thoughts for quite some time now. The thing is, we can make ICS faster on our devices just as we did with GB, but... How stable will the non-stock ICS roms be? Honestly I would rather see MIUI roms derived from GB as a base than ICS. A lot more stable with less bugs. Even the MIUI roms aren't AOSP based (as are official MIUI releases), they are FXP based roms. So, all in all we are between Stock and FXP releases.
I am not bashing on people working on developing MIUI and various ICS based roms, but like the OP, i'd rather have stability over "new features", such as full HW acceleration, which can be triggered using a variable in GB too (mind you that uses more juice).
I am going to seriously think about moving Spartan Rom from stock GB rom as a source, to stock ICS as a source.
Even if the battery consumption, which in my list of priorities for a fully functional rom is the highest in the list, is sub-par, I wont be switching over to ICS personally.
@drumraden if you see about other devices there are lots of stable roms are available (mostly aosp based, even I am using a stable custom rom for my Xoom)
We just need to give time to the devs to come up with stable ice roms.
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You don't get my point.
The only reason to build an MIUI from ICS sources, is for the **** of saying its ICS therefore updated.
Yeah as for battery drain, I'm afraid Sony says on that site above that battery will be less durable with official ICS. What a shame. The discussion here though is really making me thing about all of this.
Yeah I am seriously thinking of going back to gb as soon as there is a good miui rom I am right now on ics because there is only one really stable miui release for the lww and it is ics but i really prefer better battery life.
On the other hand I prefer ics over hb a thousand times on my tab but it has like 7 times the battery of my phone so I have no issue with that.
I'll prefer ICS when main apps start to requires ICS.
While the requirements surround the GB I'll stick with it.
But it's nice to know that if it occurs my phone will be ready.
That's why I bought my mini-pro.
Personally, I will first give it a try. Then we will see, if it deserves to stay on my LWW or not...
yup ... sure will giv official a try ... but the best rom on gb wud be miui .... is that project still going on or has been dumped ?
i think lasan is still currently working on the GB MIUI port...
melander said:
i think lasan is still currently working on the GB MIUI port...
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I like the sound of that....perfect functionality and stunning visuals, yes.
Yup it feels tooo good..... Had it on ace.... Beautiful and fast......
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I'm running Kamarush's ICS version for sk17i: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
and that works like a charm. all features that I need on a daily basis, it's really stable, and it's super fast, so if SE say it's more demanding, than that's just not true. All the roms here are so much faster than stock, because here people care about the roms. it feels like the big companies just put something together but never care to optimize it. android's biggest advantage is the custom stuff.
I do feel sorry for anybody running stock software though
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I'm running Kamarush's ICS version for sk17i: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
and that works like a charm. all features that I need on a daily basis, it's really stable, and it's super fast, so if SE say it's more demanding, than that's just not true. All the roms here are so much faster than stock, because here people care about the roms. it feels like the big companies just put something together but never care to optimize it. android's biggest advantage is the custom stuff.
I do feel sorry for anybody running stock software though
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One simple question... How much battery %/hour does the rom you have installed consume in standby mode with all radios except mobile turned off.
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Hi guys, seems sony is not going to support us and not going to update our phones to the latest Jelly bean android os. Looking around the thread i see the only problem with sony not updating to jb is with the drivers for jelly bean for our phones, i also found out that making the drivers is not a impossible task but a very hard one ( seems X8 has no problem running JB as devstaff said ). I on behalf of all the owners of 2011 xperia devices kindly request all the great developers here in this forum to join togeather to develope drivers for these devices, pls guys help us keep our great phone RAY up-to date.
As far as I know it's NOT an impossible task (because nothing is impossible), but our developers have to deal with reverse engineering and believe me concerning drivers it's a very complicated thing. Too much effort and time put with minimal or no gain at all.
I remember WM 6.5 ROMS for HTC Touch HD whose support was so quickly dropped by HTC and we, simple folk, didn't get the desired 6.5 update. So there were cooks and lot's of 6.5 Blackstone ROMS but, as genius as they were, developers didn't manage to get them work full throttle because, guess what, of them blasted drivers!
So the answer to your question is probably "no"..
am i missing the point of this thread?
there is CyanogenMod 10 jb which supports well most 2011 handsets - CyanogenMod the best you can have on the xperia ray.
i too have an xperia ray and was very unhappy with the original Sony bloat - the phone constantly crashed, rebooted, froze up - you name it, it made no fun at all. after throwing it around out of anger, i put myself together and installed CyanogenMod 9 at first, all previous errors were gone spontaneously. now a month or two ago i started to move to CyanogenMod 10 and guess what, it works great - running android 4.1.2. i'm anxious to install the latest fxp146 which will be online soon.
you can find the stuff here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409053
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As far as I know it's NOT an impossible task (because nothing is impossible), but our developers have to deal with reverse engineering and believe me concerning drivers it's a very complicated thing. Too much effort and time put with minimal or no gain at all.
I remember WM 6.5 ROMS for HTC Touch HD whose support was so quickly dropped by HTC and we, simple folk, didn't get the desired 6.5 update. So there were cooks and lot's of 6.5 Blackstone ROMS but, as genius as they were, developers didn't manage to get them work full throttle because, guess what, of them blasted drivers!
So the answer to your question is probably "no"..
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Xperia X8 support stopped with 2.1, but they have jelly bean, so it's not impossible as you say. If the developers wish they could do it for ray too.
thyssen2k said:
am i missing the point of this thread?
there is CyanogenMod 10 jb which supports well most 2011 handsets - CyanogenMod the best you can have on the xperia ray.
i too have an xperia ray and was very unhappy with the original Sony bloat - the phone constantly crashed, rebooted, froze up - you name it, it made no fun at all. after throwing it around out of anger, i put myself together and installed CyanogenMod 9 at first, all previous errors were gone spontaneously. now a month or two ago i started to move to CyanogenMod 10 and guess what, it works great - running android 4.1.2. i'm anxious to install the latest fxp146 which will be online soon.
you can find the stuff here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409053
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Ya man CM is awesome, but it dosen't contain the awesome picture quality of the sony ics camera, there was a picture preview glitch in CM. I'm saying that it would be great if developers could make the drivers for ray and make a debrand engine of sony jb version it will be fuc**in awesome thats all mate.
Well. Only sony has to do this. No developer is able to build drivers. We can port ones as FXP do. And see what is haappening. You dont ahve a full working and cool JB. SO you will never will. There is no engineer that knows sonys hardware and would like to be part of xda and share. No possible way
MrTapa said:
Well. Only sony has to do this. No developer is able to build drivers. We can port ones as FXP do. And see what is haappening. You dont ahve a full working and cool JB. SO you will never will. There is no engineer that knows sonys hardware and would like to be part of xda and share. No possible way
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Then can you tell me how xperia x8 having only 600mhz processor runs jelly bean so smoothly, with its software support stopped by sony in android 2.1 foryo. There is a way, the devolpoers could do it, i personally think if the FXP,AOKP,PA join hands they could do it
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Then can you tell me how xperia x8 having only 600mhz processor runs jelly bean so smoothly, with its software support stopped by sony in android 2.1 foryo. There is a way, the devolpoers could do it, i personally think if the FXP,AOKP,PA join hands they could do it
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It seems you do not fully understand how drivers are developed. And with x8 devs were just lucky to get hands on something similar which they adapted for this xperia model. Hell, you can have legendary HTC HD2 running Android and WP7 smoothly but you won't find not a single driver created from the ground up by our XDA tech gurus! So I repeat, what you suggest is very complex and most likely impossible.
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Then can you tell me how xperia x8 having only 600mhz processor runs jelly bean so smoothly, with its software support stopped by sony in android 2.1 foryo. There is a way, the devolpoers could do it, i personally think if the FXP,AOKP,PA join hands they could do it
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Well for us jelly bean is smooth too but when it's not fully useful and it freezes a lot. For x8 its the same
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We need good devs, like Nobodyatall to help us port drivers and more.
Maybe we should start a donation to Naa to help us? Cuz nAa is a superior dev, he made 2.2, 2.3, 4.0, 4.1 for the X8, and the X8 only runs eclair on stock.
Is my idea good? Should we ask nAa for help?
Another idea is to port DesireHD roms because the HW is almost the same, or maybe Xperia J?
Nothing is impossible, we just need good developers thats good at working with drivers.
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devstaff said:
We need good devs, like Nobodyatall to help us port drivers and more.
Maybe we should start a donation to Naa to help us? Cuz nAa is a superior dev, he made 2.2, 2.3, 4.0, 4.1 for the X8, and the X8 only runs eclair on stock.
Is my idea good? Should we ask nAa for help?
Another idea is to port DesireHD roms because the HW is almost the same, or maybe Xperia J?
Nothing is impossible, we just need good developers thats good at working with drivers.
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If you're really willing to put some effort into it, go for it! Ask Naa and see what he says. I bet he'll also have useful information when it comes to porting :good:
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Well for us jelly bean is smooth too but when it's not fully useful and it freezes a lot. For x8 its the same
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Jelly in my devices is superb, better game performance, better battery live, ect, all whit stock GHZ speed, no need to overclock on JB. :fingers-crossed:
devstaff said:
We need good devs, like Nobodyatall to help us port drivers and more.
Maybe we should start a donation to Naa to help us? Cuz nAa is a superior dev, he made 2.2, 2.3, 4.0, 4.1 for the X8, and the X8 only runs eclair on stock.
Is my idea good? Should we ask nAa for help?
Another idea is to port DesireHD roms because the HW is almost the same, or maybe Xperia J?
Nothing is impossible, we just need good developers thats good at working with drivers.
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ya thats a nice idea dude, surely we can ask him, +! from me :good:
oshmoun said:
If you're really willing to put some effort into it, go for it! Ask Naa and see what he says. I bet he'll also have useful information when it comes to porting :good:
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finally we are getting someplace, soon a proper jb for our ray
Ok, I contact nAa later today
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good man, any other developers who could help us willing to join this project ??
Hi,
I supose there are a lot of topics like this, but I want something different.
I have a xperia s, but the phone has broken and I am sending it to the manufacturer. The only other phone I have lying around is a htc hero, but it is extremely slow!
It has already been rooted, but now I am wondering if someone can recommend me a custom rom. The only things I will need is the ability to call and sms people. I won't be using this phone for long (I hope), so any other functions won't be necessary. I just want it to be fast enough.
Thank you in advance for the help,
Jerodev.
Two of the fastest roms for the hero would be Heroine ++ and Vanilla Eclair 6.2. Heroine is sense, the same version that came with the phone (i think) but faster. Vanilla Eclair is a very early version of stock android and its very fast (well, for this phone). If all you're going to do is call and sms then those should be fine
Btw they are very old roms so I have no idea if the download links still work. If they don't then you could look at either decked_x or shpongle which are both stock android gingerbread roms
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Are there any ROM's optimized for gaming to run raging thunder, fruit ninja etc.?