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Just wondering if we can get 2.3.3 on X10i and ARE you still good on x10i?
I don't use and play much about hardware, I spent a lot of time with apps from market and flashed new ROM released (Now 6.1.3 V05 Cyanogen). Just want to use it for daily / generally.
I love my x10i. It's really nice phone designed. But I also love to have newer coming technology.
Confusing myself!!! Please advice...
Sony is releasing an official v2.3.3 gingerbread for our x10 in the end of q2, if you wanna wait then wait, if not then the arc is a mighty fine phone
I'm staying with my x10 for a while more cause I love the phone and I'm broken so I can't buy a new phone lol
EDIT: This is for X10 Mini Pro
Greets
So, I've looked around for a phone and while I can get other phones like the LG P500 (Android 2.2 capable) or the Galaxy 550 (cheaper 2.1), the keyboard, the whole design and all, it has gotten to me. I have a low-end touch only and it really annoys me to type with a touch keyboard.
So I've been looking around for all the goodies around and saving all the files on my PC, all organized and ready to be used. So far I've taken care of:
- Rooting the phone;
- Installing Link2SD, from what I read, 2.1 can't move an app to the SD;
- Installing Skyfire 4 so flash videos work.
Now, slade has a fully functional ROM out. How beneficial would it be to ditch the phone's 2.1 for this or any other ROM?
I've been keeping my eye on the CM7 ROM as it seems to be 2.1, right?
So, long post short, what else do you recommend and how beneficial is it for me to dive into the custom ROM environment?
Thanks
Az
It depends on ultimately what you want.
CM7
Fast
Camera LED doesn't work
CM6
Decently Fast
Most everything works (except Google Voice SIP and Angry Birds)
Custom ROM also doesn't have the SE SMS issue when a draft exists, it crashes SMS with the keyboard out.
angry birds works on both cm6/7
also sms app doesnt crash on cm6 when keyboard is out.
which version are you using?
Well, from slade's CM7 post, the camera is stuck at 0.3MP, right? I mean, I will be paying for a 5MP one. Is it fully working on CM6? Cuz I don't really care for the radio or ANT, will not be using those for sure.
Yes cm7 camera is still bad. In cm6 which is froyo btw it will work.
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Your latest CM6 ROM is flawless, CM7 has bad camera, that's pretty much all I'd notice. So installing CM6 will give me 2.2. I guess that pretty much closes the deal, I guess I'll take your hybrid ROM and wait till CM7 is complete. CM7 is 2.3?
Slade CM6's ROMs (there's 2 flavours) are the most suitable for daily use IMHO.
The camera issues in CM7 prevent it from being a daily use ROM for me.
Almost everything is working perfectly in CM6... only bug i've found is when playing music for a while, sometimes phone crashes.
The great thing about playing with dev roms is that you can always revert back to your stock 2.1 backup (or any other backup) if you don't like it. So give it a try, if you don't like it, just revert back... takes a couple of minutes
The backing up of the original ROM, is it with xRecovery?
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The backing up of the original ROM, is it with xRecovery?
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Yes, install xrecovery... backup your current install, then play with dev roms until you're happy.... if you don't like whatever you've installed, then restore your backup with xrecovery again
Ok, thank you both, now, on to get the little thing!
Rzykerz said:
It depends on ultimately what you want.
CM7
Fast
Camera LED doesn't work
CM6
Decently Fast
Most everything works (except Google Voice SIP and Angry Birds)
Custom ROM also doesn't have the SE SMS issue when a draft exists, it crashes SMS with the keyboard out.
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Angry bird working awesome for Me, and sms tooo
go get it! worth every penny. there are many roms that will surely satisfy your requirements.
Rzykerz said:
It depends on ultimately what you want.
CM7
Fast
Camera LED doesn't work
CM6
Decently Fast
Most everything works (except Google Voice SIP and Angry Birds)
Custom ROM also doesn't have the SE SMS issue when a draft exists, it crashes SMS with the keyboard out.
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I've tryed only Slade's CM6 V2 rom and found that the camera performance is noteably inferior to the stock rom. I ll be happy if proven wrong.
tcp.Az said:
EDIT: This is for X10 Mini Pro
Greets
So, I've looked around for a phone and while I can get other phones like the LG P500 (Android 2.2 capable) or the Galaxy 550 (cheaper 2.1), the keyboard, the whole design and all, it has gotten to me. I have a low-end touch only and it really annoys me to type with a touch keyboard.
Az
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Well, my previous phone was an HTC HD2 which I ran with an android nand rom. Although it was quite a machine I find myself happier with the mini pro, the key points being the hardware keyboard, better 5mp camera and better music quality. Low points are the tiny screen and that the mini pro is slower and also the inferior battery life. Still though, I dont regret the change one bit
I mean, maybe better phones feel better, but I guess I am one of those people that won't feel good without the physical keys. I've seen some differences in prices from shop to shop, I found it a little weird. Like, 20€. But it's okay.
And MT is being worked on, I think awsomeness is on it's way
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Well, my previous phone was an HTC HD2 ... I find myself happier with the mini pro
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I just notice that Mini Pro's keyboard perhaps seems to be too small but in real life it is flawlessly useable.
My second note is that: is OK for English only - special characters are pain in the @ss.
Third notice is that: HW keyboard usable only when You using phone "horizontally". In practice I using phone in "vertical" position and if want to type, I must to slide-out HW keyboard, type fast, then close HW keyboard and continue work in this comfort orientation.
If You type much SMS or e-mail, HW keyboard is a _must_. If You browse web-sites often in 320X240 and every time You visit totally different places, typing fast also would be good - but this is real?
For me, my any other uses in "vertical" orientation - so I almost no using HS keybouard
Considering I am Portuguese... I've looked around, special characters really are a pain, but I'll find a way.
I think I can combine horizontal and vertical, I don't really mind the little screen. Internet will be seldomly used, MSN and Skype mostly.
Now that the latest mini's are announced with 2.3 it should be that much easier for SE to release 2.3 update for older mini's. Plus they are also on board with the latest Andriod update policy, anyway to remind this fact i started a thread in fb se fan page which is guaranteed to bring their attention.
facebook dot com slash topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=26305 (im unable to link because i haven't posted many here)
are you sure?
uchitha said:
Now that the latest mini's are announced with 2.3 it should be that much easier for SE to release 2.3 update for older mini's. Plus they are also on board with the latest Andriod update policy, anyway to remind this fact i started a thread in fb se fan page which is guaranteed to bring their attention.
facebook dot com slash topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=26305 (im unable to link because i haven't posted many here)
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Knowing Sony.. they will never update our "old" mini/minipro..
They have to. Google posted new codex
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They have to. Google posted new codex
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I don't think so.
I suppose it apply just for "new" phones, not "old" ones
Doubt it: knowing Sony , theyll just say the original X10 mini never existed.
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hope this updated coming through
they will not update it the new mini and the new pro are completely different then the old mini and the old pro screen size ARM family and that ****
they will not make an update for old mini and pro coz the new mini and pro are realeased
We still have to write the official site!
While I would very much like an oficial update, it just wouldn't make any sense for a commercial point of view, even if the new Mini line was the same hardware, they want to sell more phones, not rehash old ones.
I think that SE never release Android 2.3 for old mini/mini pro... I' m owner of mini pro and I just rooted and used MiniCM v7 what's Android 2.3 and it's much better than SE ever can release
wOrHeR SvK said:
I think that SE never release Android 2.3 for old mini/mini pro... I' m owner of mini pro and I just rooted and used MiniCM v7 what's Android 2.3 and it's much better than SE ever can release
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Are you sure? Because until nobodyatAll fixes it, Your Mini Pro won't be able to use the 5MP Camera or VGA Recording, things that would be working perfectly on a stock SE 2.3 ROM.
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Are you sure? Because until nobodyatAll fixes it, Your Mini Pro won't be able to use the 5MP Camera or VGA Recording, things that would be working perfectly on a stock SE 2.3 ROM.
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But the fix will come faster then sony updating it to 2.3 (chances of this: 0 XD)
sony doesnt care about old phones i dont care about them neither.
our phones works alot better with xda dev ROMs thanks to owain & slade and other devs you guys rock
Write your angry letters here
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia™-x10/
Пишем свои гневные письма сюда
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia™-x10/
What are the realistic factors limiting them in making an update for our Mini/MP's?
I understand that the hardware specs are different, but they both possess the same functionality and run the same features. If they're making the update for the x10, surely it wouldn't be too great a leap in tweaking it to release on a device thats pretty much exactly the same? I'm not a developer, but it just sounds like a cop out.
I understand that it is almost impossible that SE upgrades old minis.
But, as long as the new minis have android 2.3, I'm sure that it would be easier to develop a custom ROM based on that one.
Let's hope it's stable.
Yes but why? They're just a smaller version of the same phone but with slightly less impressive specs i.e. the x10 has a 1ghz processor, whilst the mini/MP has a 600mhz processor, which has been overclocked comfortably by a lot of guys here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075320
There is no realistic factor limiting them, its probably just their marketing department.
I've just been re-reading the official Sony comparison of their Gingerbread and ICS offering. This time I've had the chance to read more properly all the things they said. For the first time I actually have sympathy for Sony. The manufacturers bring out phones (e.g. SE) with the Xperias 2011 all running Gingerbread from the very start, then the next Google upgrade wipes out the phones. I owned the 2010 X10 Mini and our phone got wiped out the same way. It seems to me that we consumers do not benefit. Anyone who comes to this forum is already a bit of tech. nut, we are a very small population of the whole market, of course we want to try what's new and hot. But in this blog, Sony is explicitly saying that ICS is much, much more demanding on system resources and that we will definitely see a fall in performance, they clearly reference longer boot up time, apps force closing and stalling as well as poor video performance for different reasons that they explain in the blog.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...nical-differences-between-gingerbread-and-ics
Now I want to wait before I upgrade and check out the news. A few new icons and wallpapers is NOT good enough reason for me to upgrade. Better battery is a good reason to wait, which in that blog, Sony says you will get with Gingerbread over ICS. Do we really benefit here? Do we have to buy a new phone every year now, because Google is bumping up the demands of Android, like Microsoft did with Windows Vista? Windows 7 has less requirements than Vista, only slightly, and 8 has the same requirements as 7 so at least we could use the same laptop/pc for a few years. With Google, the way they are doing this is screwing us over I think.
For you, stay with Gingerbread, move to ICS, not sure or want to wait?
Ray users say they havent experienced any major bugs... Battery is definitely poor for now.....
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I think on the minis and active devices we have the advance of having a smaller resolution area while having almost the same hardware as the other xperia 2011
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They are really both very good points: we can look to the current Sony beta roms for more clues and it is true, our smaller screen being powered by the same CPU is an advantage. Perhaps we Mini users will have the least trouble amongst the 2011 Xperias?
Gingerbread would still be the most dominant OS, due to its stability on most phones,
having a new OS or phone is not always the best option.
I really thank the devs here in XDA, they are keeping old phones alive,
giving us a chance to have a taste of the new flavor and further improving stock OS on current phones.
I just recently read about the Xperia S Rom ported to Xperia X10 here, how cool is that...?
I'll choose the custom ICS rom.. sony and other manufacturer has done nothing but giving us all those bloatware while calling it "feature" rather than craps. + I see upgrade as change in UI, but sony's ICS UI has not change much compared to GB
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you can always remove the bloatwares , though of course with custom roms we can do a lot of things which are still restricted even with a rooted stock rom
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I'll choose the custom ICS rom.. sony and other manufacturer has done nothing but giving us all those bloatware while calling it "feature" rather than craps. + I see upgrade as change in UI, but sony's ICS UI has not change much compared to GB
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If you want a different UI, just use a different home.apk? Just saying...
But yea i'm with the OP on these thoughts, have had the same thoughts for quite some time now. The thing is, we can make ICS faster on our devices just as we did with GB, but... How stable will the non-stock ICS roms be? Honestly I would rather see MIUI roms derived from GB as a base than ICS. A lot more stable with less bugs. Even the MIUI roms aren't AOSP based (as are official MIUI releases), they are FXP based roms. So, all in all we are between Stock and FXP releases.
I am not bashing on people working on developing MIUI and various ICS based roms, but like the OP, i'd rather have stability over "new features", such as full HW acceleration, which can be triggered using a variable in GB too (mind you that uses more juice).
I am going to seriously think about moving Spartan Rom from stock GB rom as a source, to stock ICS as a source.
Even if the battery consumption, which in my list of priorities for a fully functional rom is the highest in the list, is sub-par, I wont be switching over to ICS personally.
@drumraden if you see about other devices there are lots of stable roms are available (mostly aosp based, even I am using a stable custom rom for my Xoom)
We just need to give time to the devs to come up with stable ice roms.
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You don't get my point.
The only reason to build an MIUI from ICS sources, is for the **** of saying its ICS therefore updated.
Yeah as for battery drain, I'm afraid Sony says on that site above that battery will be less durable with official ICS. What a shame. The discussion here though is really making me thing about all of this.
Yeah I am seriously thinking of going back to gb as soon as there is a good miui rom I am right now on ics because there is only one really stable miui release for the lww and it is ics but i really prefer better battery life.
On the other hand I prefer ics over hb a thousand times on my tab but it has like 7 times the battery of my phone so I have no issue with that.
I'll prefer ICS when main apps start to requires ICS.
While the requirements surround the GB I'll stick with it.
But it's nice to know that if it occurs my phone will be ready.
That's why I bought my mini-pro.
Personally, I will first give it a try. Then we will see, if it deserves to stay on my LWW or not...
yup ... sure will giv official a try ... but the best rom on gb wud be miui .... is that project still going on or has been dumped ?
i think lasan is still currently working on the GB MIUI port...
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i think lasan is still currently working on the GB MIUI port...
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I like the sound of that....perfect functionality and stunning visuals, yes.
Yup it feels tooo good..... Had it on ace.... Beautiful and fast......
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I'm running Kamarush's ICS version for sk17i: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
and that works like a charm. all features that I need on a daily basis, it's really stable, and it's super fast, so if SE say it's more demanding, than that's just not true. All the roms here are so much faster than stock, because here people care about the roms. it feels like the big companies just put something together but never care to optimize it. android's biggest advantage is the custom stuff.
I do feel sorry for anybody running stock software though
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I'm running Kamarush's ICS version for sk17i: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434001
and that works like a charm. all features that I need on a daily basis, it's really stable, and it's super fast, so if SE say it's more demanding, than that's just not true. All the roms here are so much faster than stock, because here people care about the roms. it feels like the big companies just put something together but never care to optimize it. android's biggest advantage is the custom stuff.
I do feel sorry for anybody running stock software though
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One simple question... How much battery %/hour does the rom you have installed consume in standby mode with all radios except mobile turned off.
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Hi there! I've done a successful rooting, flashing (nAa) and install of miniCMS 9.0 (3.0.3) on my mini pro (u20i), though I find that the apps are really slow, and Trebuchet (default launcher) keeps crashing. I chalk it up to having so little RAM on this tiny mobile, so I'm saving up for the slightly bigger x10.
I've heard that Sony is allowing updates to Android 4.0 right now, and I'd like to try to go back to the standard Sony version of Android to check out the performance. I've downloaded and successfully flashed ( U20_2.1.1.C.0.0_Kernel.ftf ) and then subsequently gone back to NAa.. that didn't effect my install of miniCM9 at all.
I have tried the Sony Update Service download and run it through alright- both with the standard kernel and with nAa flashed, it tells me my software is up to date and leaves my phone alone.
I do need to install something lighter though, if possible. Odd things keep happening, like unrequested apps loading (Like phone, for example, in the bathroom, and bluetooth enabling itself after every time it was switched off last night for about ten minutes).
Any suggestions? Much appreciated, -illys
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I've heard that Sony is allowing updates to Android 4.0 right now.
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Wait! What? :S ICS on x10 mp? Are you sure someone wasn't pulling your leg?
illysmanx said:
Hi there! I've done a successful rooting, flashing (nAa) and install of miniCMS 9.0 (3.0.3) on my mini pro (u20i), though I find that the apps are really slow, and Trebuchet (default launcher) keeps crashing. I chalk it up to having so little RAM on this tiny mobile, so I'm saving up for the slightly bigger x10.
I've heard that Sony is allowing updates to Android 4.0 right now, and I'd like to try to go back to the standard Sony version of Android to check out the performance. I've downloaded and successfully flashed ( U20_2.1.1.C.0.0_Kernel.ftf ) and then subsequently gone back to NAa.. that didn't effect my install of miniCM9 at all.
I have tried the Sony Update Service download and run it through alright- both with the standard kernel and with nAa flashed, it tells me my software is up to date and leaves my phone alone.
I do need to install something lighter though, if possible. Odd things keep happening, like unrequested apps loading (Like phone, for example, in the bathroom, and bluetooth enabling itself after every time it was switched off last night for about ten minutes).
Any suggestions? Much appreciated, -illys
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Any Sony updates to ICS are ONLY for 2011 devices and newer, NOT for the x10 series of phones from 2010, like we have.
You can save up for the Xperia X10, but it will give you basically the same hardware platform as your X10MiniPro has now, so you won't see much improvement in this ROMS performance, and it will still not give you Sony's Android 4.0, because that is a 2010 device too.
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Any Sony updates to ICS are ONLY for 2011 devices and newer, NOT for the x10 series of phones from 2010, like we have.
You can save up for the Xperia X10, but it will give you basically the same hardware platform as your X10MiniPro has now, so you won't see much improvement in this ROMS performance, and it will still not give you Sony's Android 4.0, because that is a 2010 device too.
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Thanks for the clarification! Do you think though that miniCM9 will run better on the xperia pro? I've been very impressed with minicms on the x10 mini pro, but running apps on top of it has been like goopy molasses. I'll give up the idea of running Sony 4.0 software on these little systems- honest, Cyanogenmod is lovely.
Trying to install miniCM7..
Thanks
illysmanx said:
Thanks for the clarification! Do you think though that miniCM9 will run better on the xperia pro? I've been very impressed with minicms on the x10 mini pro, but running apps on top of it has been like goopy molasses. I'll give up the idea of running Sony 4.0 software on these little systems- honest, Cyanogenmod is lovely.
Trying to install miniCM7..
Thanks
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If the Xperia Pro (2011) handled ICS badly, Sony wouldn't have put out an upgrade for it, I bet CM9 and CM10 (JellyBean) will both run lovely on the Xperia Pro.
Trebuchet is really bad on our phones tbh. I replaced it with Nova launcher and That's great.
And JB runs faster than ICS on the robyn at least apparently so hopefully it will be great on here once we get it!
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