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Am I the Only person who got a Perfect Amaze with No defects?
I LOVE THIS FREAKIN" PHONE
Only thing, that pink TMO Goodbye animation on power down , its got to go, they could have made it blue, yeah, yeah I know - TMO likes pink, easy fix when Rooted & S-OFF
Come on people, some of the comments are something else, guess your previous phone was absolutely Perfect from first boot, there was not need to root or personalize them in anyway.
I went from a G2x to the Amaze. G2x was awesome, rooted with CM7 and it was exactly what I wanted in a phone, except for the fact that the camera in the G2x was awful and even with a custom rom, it would still lock up.
As soon as I root my Amaze and uninstall sense and the other bloatware preinstalled (seriously 31 apps preinstalled I have 0 use for) this device will be near 100% perfect for me.
My only fear is that the camera app is tied into sense and freezing that will mess that up, but we'll just have to see, unless someone who's already done it can attest.
Yes, I am really enjoying this phone. There's so many things I like about it. Especially those two little camera buttons. I have the white model and its absolutely gorgeous. I honestly have no reason to root right now. If you were to install a custom Rom you would lose a lot of features. The camera would have a lot less function without the built in Sense features.
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I am with you on that - this baby is something else, just needs a little de-bloat, though I cannot see any lag at all even with all the default SF
Only thing I have planned after root is some of my favorite apps for rooted phones
I did eventually get my MT4G running like a dream, the Amaze is like my MT4G on a double dose of Roids - right out the box
Perfect size phone & screen, I dislike Tablets, the Amaze is a great tweener.
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Are you confirming that the features for the camera are tied to sense or are you sepculating?
I have no intentions of going for a custom rom at this point, I just want to freeze sense and a bunch of other bloat. I was able to lag the phone significantly by installing launcher pro, but I think it was fighting sense the whole time.
CalicoJeb said:
Am I the Only person who got a Perfect Amaze with No defects?
I LOVE THIS FREAKIN" PHONE
Only thing, that pink TMO Goodbye animation on power down , its got to go, they could have made it blue, yeah, yeah I know - TMO likes pink, easy fix when Rooted & S-OFF
Come on people, some of the comments are something else, guess your previous phone was absolutely Perfect from first boot, there was not need to root or personalize them in anyway.
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Does your microSD Card slot work? Mines seem faulty =(
Spovik said:
Are you confirming that the features for the camera are tied to sense or are you sepculating?
I have no intentions of going for a custom rom at this point, I just want to freeze sense and a bunch of other bloat. I was able to lag the phone significantly by installing launcher pro, but I think it was fighting sense the whole time.
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Just go into the camera app and see for yourself. All the different modes and the picture editing features are all features of Sense. Install a custom rom and you lose all of that.
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Does your microSD Card slot work? Mines seem faulty =(
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My card slot works fine, I installed a 8GB card I have just to get going, formatted using the phone and all is well.
Make sure its not the mem card itself, I have had a couple bad ones here and there
CalicoJeb said:
My card slot works fine, I installed a 8GB card I have just to get going, formatted using the phone and all is well.
Make sure its not the mem card itself, I have had a couple bad ones here and there
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I tried 3 different ones I have from my G2 and Nexus 1, on those phones, it works fine, on the Amaze, it gives me these errors:
Damaged SD Card
Removed SD card
It won't let me mount or format them through the phone. I formatted them through the computer fine but the phone won't read them. Brought it to the T-Mobile store they said they'll replace the phone.. so hopefully it's just my unit..
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I tried 3 different ones I have from my G2 and Nexus 1, on those phones, it works fine, on the Amaze, it gives me these errors:
Damaged SD Card
Removed SD card
It won't let me mount or format them through the phone. I formatted them through the computer fine but the phone won't read them. Brought it to the T-Mobile store they said they'll replace the phone.. so hopefully it's just my unit..
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Well the card I used was never used in a previous phone, was in a camera, doubt if that would be any issue at all, should not be one - post an update when you get the replacement
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Just go into the camera app and see for yourself. All the different modes and the picture editing features are all features of Sense. Install a custom rom and you lose all of that.
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I'm familair with them and have used some of them, I just didn't know if they were linked to the actual SENSE app, or if it was built into it's own camera apk.
If they are linked, then I can live without them, but it would be nice to keep if I could. I'll just have to check for msyefl.
I'm happy so far but I may have a concern with the camera while using flash. On most pics I take with the flash, there is haze or a halo effect on the photo. It looks like a fog that is thinner at the center and thickens out near the edge. It seems to be worse when the subject is at close range, and it seems to vary in amount from pic to pic. Photos without the flash are fine.
I see nothing on the lens and there isn't anything around the lens/ led flash area. I'm going to stop into T-Mobile and check the demo unit for the same effect.
Otherwise happy. I really want to root for Titanium Backup though.
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Well the card I used was never used in a previous phone, was in a camera, doubt if that would be any issue at all, should not be one - post an update when you get the replacement
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Wow! My second Amaze!!! Gotta return it again! First one was the SD card issue, the second one fixed it! Second one... the soft buttons has two spots where the screen would shine through? Like they didn't coat the screen right... So annoying..
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the soft buttons has two spots where the screen would shine through? Like they didn't coat the screen right... So annoying..
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man i have this same problem,
i love the phone but im waiting out for about another week before returning it that way if i get a few scratches, i'll just get a replacement anyways
but this issue is deff. making me aggravated >:O
Finally activated my new simm (lazy, had been using mt4g old simm) and noticed faster speeds.
Consistent 10mb - 14+mb download & 1.5mb - 2.5+mb upload .......sweet
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These T-Mo apps how much space do they really take up? Is it worth all the trouble with "unlocking bootloader" and rooting the phone for a noob like me?
I´m coming from a Desire wich has minimal internal memory to this Amaze with 16Gb (I know i´s not that much irl).
It´s just that I am so annoyed with all these apps I cant even use.
yes this phone is amazing, the onlly thing i dont like about sense is that my wallpapers dont move like all my other phones did, so i cant use all my old wallpapers. Other than that this phone is exactly what i expected it to be
Arcadia310 said:
Just go into the camera app and see for yourself. All the different modes and the picture editing features are all features of Sense. Install a custom rom and you lose all of that.
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Umm... May want to rephrase that... I use a custom rom that still uses sense as well and has all the camera features so... Custom rom does not equal loss of camera features or sense for that matter... Also I am pretty sure one could have a stripped sense rom and still maintain camera functionality...
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I too live it. Probably my favorite. Had g1, mt4g, thunderbolt on Verizon, LG g2x and this. It is really nice and no problems that I notice.
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I really loved my sensation and the amaze is what my sensation never was a phone without flaws. People complain bout the lights bleeding into the screen but I don't have that issue I like my screen looks great. The device feels awesome in my hand and the heft is perfect. The camera is best I ever had front and back. Most people will complain about sense but I like it until ics I dislike stock android its missing some Polish and ease with its features like dialer, contacts, camera, music player etc... Hate that I'm giving up my amaze and selling it hoping the galaxy s 2 is ok but hoping to pick up an amaze later again this really is a great device wish more devs picked it up to see its value and HTC was more friendly to our devs. Thank god for x!
Edit: what I absolutely hate about my amaze!! The fact that it looks and feels so good bare that I never want to use my case but have to so that it can stay looking so good.
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Another sense filled Google update?
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They can't really remove it since it was sold with it
They have already discussed Sense 4.0 for future devices. This device will likely get ICS with Sense 4.0 near the beginning of the year.
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So I will just have to look for senseless Rom then
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If you don't like sense get the nexus
I'm thinking about it,but I'm loving the beats audio headphones
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By the time ICS hits there will be several ROMs, and those ROMs will obviously translate to ICS eventually.
I would like to see sense and ICS but I think I'm going to return the Rezound and get the Nexus.
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I would like to see sense and ICS but I think I'm going to return the Rezound and get the Nexus.
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how come.
im always interested in the reasons why people like or dislike these devices.
I got this beucase I just came from a samsung (droid charge) phone, and before that I had an HTC phone (dinc).
my friend has a samusng captivate
and another friend has the samsung infuse
we all agree that samsung phones are horrible with build quality and GPS issues.
I never had the problems with my dinc that i had with the droid charge. The UI is horrible, so you have to get ASOP or just fail with Touchwiz.
Sense is pretty much awesome compared to the other manufactures overlays. Is it better than stock, thats up to the person, but at least with the rezound we can have the option for both.
With the nexus, you get a crappy GPS (proven and documented issues) , and the no choice between stock or sense.
If you hate sense, then i can see why sticking with this phone sucks.
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Couldnt agree more. Granted that Verizon locks out HTC HUB, so Skinds are out of the question, but i think Sense dominates most Manufacture UI's that are out today. And I happen to frikken hate the STOCK UI....LOL....but i love MIUI tho. Im interested in seeing ICS in person tho. Not many changes in the UI with ICS, but its looks awesome tho. Im on the fence about this one, and I jsyt came from Sprint on Monday. Guess im an HTC person. Speaking of Skinds, has anyone been able to get any installed? Ive tryied and installed quite a few already (knowing they prolly wouldnt work anyway) and they installed just fine but when i head into the "Applications" section there not listed for me to uninstall them. Pretty wierd. Feedback on this would be great. Sorry to go [OFF-TOPIC]
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Couldnt agree more. Granted that Verizon locks out HTC HUB, so Skinds are out of the question, but i think Sense dominates most Manufacture UI's that are out today. And I happen to frikken hate the STOCK UI....LOL....but i love MIUI tho. Im interested in seeing ICS in person tho. Not many changes in the UI with ICS, but its looks awesome tho. Im on the fence about this one, and I jsyt came from Sprint on Monday. Guess im an HTC person. Speaking of Skinds, has anyone been able to get any installed? Ive tryied and installed quite a few already (knowing they prolly wouldnt work anyway) and they installed just fine but when i head into the "Applications" section there not listed for me to uninstall them. Pretty wierd. Feedback on this would be great. Sorry to go [OFF-TOPIC]
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Yeah. Hub and HTCSense.com will be available when we get root. Skins also will come.
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Yeah. Hub and HTCSense.com will be available when we get root. Skins also will come.
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Ohh really? I know we talked about this the other day, but i didnt realize u can add that with root. I mean, cause Sprint never locked it out, So ive never had this problem. THats awesome...good to hear, thanks bro!!
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Ohh really? I know we talked about this the other day, but i didnt realize u can add that with root. I mean, cause Sprint never locked it out, So ive never had this problem. THats awesome...good to hear, thanks bro!!
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Not a problem. I'm not sure what apk Hub is, in fact, it might be laced into another apk. HTC Sense.com is however an apk.
can't you just install sense 3.5 skin APKs via astro or something? I know hub won't work but we can get the skin APKs and install them I think
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can't you just install sense 3.5 skin APKs via astro or something? I know hub won't work but we can get the skin APKs and install them I think
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Nah I've tried a ton of 3.5 AMD 3.0 for the hell of it, and they install just fine but they don't show up in the skins section. Even of I head Into the "applications" to uninstall it, there no where to be found. Pretty wired. Never seen an apk install successfully and not be able to uni.stall it.
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That sucks. Are there any skins from the factory? Like even a blue one atleast?
msticlaru said:
how come.
im always interested in the reasons why people like or dislike these devices.
I got this beucase I just came from a samsung (droid charge) phone, and before that I had an HTC phone (dinc).
my friend has a samusng captivate
and another friend has the samsung infuse
we all agree that samsung phones are horrible with build quality and GPS issues.
I never had the problems with my dinc that i had with the droid charge. The UI is horrible, so you have to get ASOP or just fail with Touchwiz.
Sense is pretty much awesome compared to the other manufactures overlays. Is it better than stock, thats up to the person, but at least with the rezound we can have the option for both.
With the nexus, you get a crappy GPS (proven and documented issues) , and the no choice between stock or sense.
If you hate sense, then i can see why sticking with this phone sucks.
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It's not that I hate the device, it's just that it reminds me too much of my Incredible and I want something different. I love the look that Sense brings to the phone (but I hate the launcher) and I love the option of going stock or having a sense rom, that was a major reason why I wanted this phone in the first place along with being able to add in a MicroSD card. One of the main things that's annoying me now is that the phone seems to lag when I' m using ADW EX or swiftkey X. It feels like I'm back on my Incredible! I read around that a factory reset helped some people so I just did one and hopefully it will improve the responsiveness of the device.
It's just that I feel like I'm missing out by not getting the Nexus. Root isn't guaranteed with the Rezound like it is with the Nexus, since I bricked my Incredible 5 days after I got it the lack of SBF/NVflash-type tools kind of scares me now because there's no safety net in case your device randomly decides it wants to turn security back on. Also there's always tons of modifications done with Nexus devices because they're developer phones. With my OG Droid I was messing around with roms and kernels every few days checking out what I liked the best about them. Once I switched to the Incredible in March, I liked the change but quickly grew sort of disinterested in flashing roms and kernels about 2 months after I had it because every rom was essentially the same in the end. That may be the case with the Nexus since but only time will tell.
I think root and S-Off are going to make this device amazing. We'll get stock ICS ROMs, Sense ICS ROMs. ROMs to fix the little issues. Everything gets better with custom ROMs. I didn't buy this device for the stock experience. I got it because I love the development the community does on Sense devices.
Rabble rabble rabble.
I think the only people who don't buy their device to customize are the ones who got it from work for free, and those who have no idea what some phones are capable of(Grandma and Grandpa who were tricked by carrier to extend their contract), lol.
I agree that root and S-off will definitely make this device better, Sense and ICS was also another big factor for me.
Im coming from the HTC evo from sprint. Im on my way over to Verizon. Im interested in both the Rezound and the nexus...
Is there a reason to choose the REzound over the nexus? It doesnt seem like the Rezound has full root/s-off etc etc right? Is it a matter of time, or do they have this thing locked down?
Rezound have radio lock thats all
Rezound is faster and has alotttt stronger signal. Basically, HTC owns samsung
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I was all about the nexus but after being burned so often by buying and trying to justify my purchase waited and was about to buy a rezound till I got it as a replacement and its awesome. I love this phone so far. Great camera, It's really quick, screen is amazing and its the perfect size
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I came from the EVO as well. It was this or nexus, I chose this for the better camera and beats, which I can't go without now. Plus the free headphones. Only selling point of the nexus is ics but a senseless Rom gives a close experience which should get better in time. Plus sense 3.6 is cool and miui is in progress as well as sense 4.0
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Came from Evo 4G on Sprint as well. Went through 2 Nexus's before giving up and getting the Rezound. Signal and call quality on the Nexus was horrendous. I would hear about every third word the caller was saying which made for some pretty interesting conversations.
The ONLY advantage to the Nexus is the ease of "tweaking" it but I un-locked, flashed a recovery, and flashed a rooted ICS Rom on my Rezound in about 10 minutes.
Get the Rezound ... NO BRAINER
IMHO
Edit: BTW ... The return rate of the Nexus is upwards of 20% according to my Verizon Rep. She told me she wished they would pull it off the market.
I came on over from the Evo 3d and I love the Rezound and coverage so much I've yet to root it. This phone has almost cured my flashism. Though I'm on vacation this week, I might get in on the rooting and madness on this side of town soon.
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Thanks guys.. Im hesistant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.
Rezound vs GNex
I poured over this decision back in December. I opted for the rezound because it has an sd card slot and the GNex doesn't. The camera and processor are also superior. I have mine OC's to 1.8 GHz. It is saddled with s-on though. HTC allows users to unlock the bootloader but we cannot flash radios and kernels directly via recovery. It must be done in the bootloader or via fastboot. Not the end of the world but not as easy as an s-off device. This nut seems to be a tough one to crack too. A few devs have been at it since December but no joy
Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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What do you mean by that?
editeD: lolwut I got it now haha fail.
Look, I'm not expert by any means, but I feel I need to chime in. I have owned both phones. The Nexus was probably the sweetest phone I thought I ever had.. Everything seemed to work flawlessly. After a few days I constantly had problems with the Battery, Signal strength and SOUND. Let me explain. ICS was awesome IMO. It worked great and was a really nice change. But that was the only thing that was nice on it. The roms that are coming out now for the Rezound by far make this the best phone I've ever owned. Speed, picture, ICS and I personally like Sense. SO for me to give anyone advice it would easily be GO REZOUND!!
BTW.. Ask this question in the Nexus forum, and I guarantee you'll get a different response. So basically, you need to go in the store, and give yourself 20 minutes to mess around with both phones. Just keep in mind that Samsung has a reputation as having terrible radios. Be sure to listen to the sound on both. And take a look at the resolution and clarity.. A few youtube videos should do it for ya! ALSO, the fact that you get a nice set of ear phones.
I just got the rezound last week and love it. I'm coming from a sensation 4g this is a lot better phone than that is. Plus now we have an ics leak that your phone doesn't have to be rooted is sweet. And when the official ota drops you can still update
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Don't think. Just buy a rezound.
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I faced the same decision, and I went for the Rezound. The camera, reception, and overall build quality of this phone is better than that of the Nexus. I really don't like Sense, and that almost made me go for the Nexus, but software is upgradable and hardware isn't. I'm currently running a senseless ROM (XTreme's), which isn't AOSP, but it's close. It seems like there is being progress with ROMs completely lacking sense (MIUI is being worked on and apparently has RIL in-tact), and once CM9 gets its RIL issues fixed, my phone will feel complete. Even without that, I am very happy with this phone. The screen is amazing, even when compared to a Samsung device (Nexus). The battery life isn't great, but it is an LTE device... I never get signal drops, and I'm always on 4G.
okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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Not much. It makes it more difficult to flash kernels, but it is still relatively easy using adb or just your phone. You can't flash radios (well at least without being relocked), which I think is the major downside of s-off. Also, unlocking through the HTCDev method won't let you go back to complete factory stock (without the bootloader saying relocked), so if Verizon happened to check, they can see that you MAY have voided PARTS of your warranty (not a big deal).
hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
mroneeyedboh said:
hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
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It's really not that bad. Choose the phone you want to go with, but don't let that sway you too much. We may not have as many developers and ROMs as the Nexus, but we have some really great devs. And flashing ROMs and kernels really doesn't take noticeably longer without s-off, and becomes second nature
If you want stock ICS go Nexus.
If you want better screen, eventual Sense ICS (AOSP probably won't be possible until we can get s-off I think), and removable SD card go Rezound.
I've been a stock Android fan since the original Droid, but I've really grown to like Sense and Sense 4.0 looks even better. I do want an eventual AOSP.
After 30 days having 2 new amaze 4g, I am leaving HTC for good.
THis phone has been a horrible experience. 2 new phones bought and in a month I went thru 7 phones,that is unacceptable.
we got 2 phones,1st. one died the first day and was exchanged for a new one, this one started overheating after 15 days, replacement from TMobile, came with banding on the screen even whith the phone off out of the box.
Second one,worked for like 2 weeks, gps died. Replacement from TMobile, came also with banding on the screen also out of the box.
I have issues with the WiFi in all of them, taken too long to connect or disconnect automatically when signal was lost. GPS not too reliable, overheats after 30 minutes and freezes.
Called HTC,and the Customer Service lady, said she was looking to get the phone but too many issues with it. Back covers (part of the issue probably) are in back order, and TMo TEch had no idea about the issue with the back covers.
It took me to email TMo executives to get another phone similar (Galaxy SII or SIII,or HTC One S, as far as I paid the difference, what I was willing to do, and even offer to Customer retention managers to do so) (TMo customer service would only exchange after days of fighting for a Exibit 2)
Finally, Multitask in Sense is unreliable at best, and the changes made to comply with Apple's ban, have made the phone really a poor choice.
Good luck guys,but i believe this phone is a lemon........ (And I am not a newbie in Android)
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Good luck guys,but i believe this phone is a lemon........ (And I am not a newbie in Android)
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Bye ......... Guess I am the only customer for whom HTC added sugar to the lemons, and made Lemonade :laugh:
Jk ... Jk
Now you people see why I run telus software and not tmobile? I never had any of those issues you mentioned surprisingly.
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I have T-Mobile and haven't had any of those issues the OP has.
Has nothing to do with the provider when it is a hardware issue. Maybe a bad batch got through quailty control OT something?
I am on my 1st Amaze still...after 4 months.
I guess I am lucky, lol!
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I've also never heard of ANY of those issues with tmo software OR ANY software. I mean, it sucks you had the bad luck, but your results weren't common amongst those here in the community or others I know that own the device.
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Dark Nightmare said:
Now you people see why I run telus software and not tmobile? I never had any of those issues you mentioned surprisingly.
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Does this mean that T-Mobile amaze can be converted to telus amaze ie. Software radio kernel and still function with T-Mobile the same if not better with out any issues
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Does this mean that T-Mobile amaze can be converted to telus amaze ie. Software radio kernel and still function with T-Mobile the same if not better with out any issues
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Yes sir, had quite a few plus features over the tmo software, much smoother, no bloatware, no app open restrictions (you can tap links, phone numbers, etc from anywhere like fb or the browser and it opens the corresponding app unlike the browser only restriction on tmo), only downside to using the telus software is that you have no wifi calling, but that doesn't even work properly on the tmo version, so it never bugged me one bit. You have to be super cid to do this though, so s-off is required, not sure if you can flash the zip I made or not, but I think a clean install to begin with is a better idea.
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Yes sir, had quite a few plus features over the tmo software, much smoother, no bloatware, no app open restrictions (you can tap links, phone numbers, etc from anywhere like fb or the browser and it opens the corresponding app unlike the browser only restriction on tmo), only downside to using the telus software is that you have no wifi calling, but that doesn't even work properly on the tmo version, so it never bugged me one bit. You have to be super cid to do this though, so s-off is required, not sure if you can flash the zip I made or not, but I think a clean install to begin with is a better idea.
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Hmm if use WiFi calling its only for about 3 hours the whole month sometimes never I could live with out. As far as the browser features I really don't know since I just use boat browser. But I would like to feel smoothness stable no random reboots maybe better battery and signal?
I'll have to pm you later if I need help but I'm trying out nrgs stock Rom only had one reboot. So I ordered a new stock battery and HTC says to use amaze memory clear so if after all this still unhappy I'm going back to stock but telus version this time.
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Hmm if use WiFi calling its only for about 3 hours the whole month sometimes never I could live with out. As far as the browser features I really don't know since I just use boat browser. But I would like to feel smoothness stable no random reboots maybe better battery and signal?
I'll have to pm you later if I need help but I'm trying out nrgs stock Rom only had one reboot. So I ordered a new stock battery and HTC says to use amaze memory clear so if after all this still unhappy I'm going back to stock but telus version this time.
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You're doing the right thing, tasting all the samples then making a choice, ^_^…
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I am also a big fan of Telus software over T-Mobile. Mind you I'm on Telus lol. I was on T-Mobile software for quite a while while waiting for Telus ICS. I went back to Telus software as soon as it was available. I prefer it mostly for the COMPLETE lack of bloat. I've also not had any problems with Telus software at all. I pmed NRGZ28 to ask if there was any chance he could rebase his excellent ROM on the Telus base but he said they weren't different enough to make it worth it
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I am also a big fan of Telus software over T-Mobile. Mind you I'm on Telus lol. I was on T-Mobile software for quite a while while waiting for Telus ICS. I went back to Telus software as soon as it was available. I prefer it mostly for the COMPLETE lack of bloat. I've also not had any problems with Telus software at all. I pmed NRGZ28 to ask if there was any chance he could rebase his excellent ROM on the Telus base but he said they weren't different enough to make it worth it
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So u root your phone and use custom roms, but the bloatware is what makes tmo software worse than telus...
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glacierguy said:
So u root your phone and use custom roms, but the bloatware is what makes tmo software worse than telus...
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I don't have many complaints using t mobile software. Took it all the bloat and use Wi-Fi calling quite frequently (very crappy service were I live). Only complaint is random overheating and external sd not always mounting after reboot.
Off subject. Glacierguy, how do you like the One S compared to the Amaze?
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Lunaillij said:
I don't have many complaints using t mobile software. Took it all the bloat and use Wi-Fi calling quite frequently (very crappy service were I live). Only complaint is random overheating and external sd not always mounting after reboot.
Off subject. Glacierguy, how do you like the One S compared to the Amaze?
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Absolutely love it. I'm running a working CM9 and my battery lasts all day. Its light, durable, and no hw issues. Also, S4 is way snappier than s3 in a lot of ways. Can also do 1gb backups in under 1 minute. Can't wait to get 4ext over there. Its better in every way except expandable memory and camera IMO.
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glacierguy said:
Absolutely love it. I'm running a working CM9 and my battery lasts all day. Its light, durable, and no hw issues. Also, S4 is way snappier than s3 in a lot of ways. Can also do 1gb backups in under 1 minute. Can't wait to get 4ext over there. Its better in every way except expandable memory and camera IMO.
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Good to hear. I was thinking of switching myself. Just curious, did you upgrade, trade, or bought right out?
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Why, HTC is the best?
Lunaillij said:
Good to hear. I was thinking of switching myself. Just curious, did you upgrade, trade, or bought right out?
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Upgraded
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that sucks you have had so many problems with your phones. mine has run pretty much flawless since i got it. i am just keeping my fingers crossed
Very Satisfied (or lucky) w Amaze Tmobil
Being a relative newb to Android. I must say I have had very few hardware issue with this handset.
1. battery draw is easy enough to compensate, especially with a backup battery.
2. BT weak signal (much better with ICS)
3. An occasional black screen after a lengthy phone call. (since NRG stock look was installed) which is very seldom.
Wifi calling works well. Phone is snappy, camera is very good for a phone.
Currently rooted w/NRG - Stock look
I must say the Telus route sounds interesting.
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Good for all of you. I agree the Amaze sucks I am on my 5th. It overheats like yu would not believe. This I my number one complaint. Today I am getting a Pebble Blue 32gb Samsung Galaxy SIII shipped to my house. I hope to have it by the end of the week. Goodbye HTC! (BTW no cost except to ship my phone back to corporate after I get my new phone)
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Kent_Davis said:
Good for all of you. I agree the Amaze sucks I am on my 5th. It overheats like yu would not believe. This I my number one complaint. Today I am getting a Pebble Blue 32gb Samsung Galaxy SIII shipped to my house. I hope to have it by the end of the week. Goodbye HTC! (BTW no cost except to ship my phone back to corporate after I get my new phone)
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Very nice... enjoy that beast
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I just grabbed this phone from Verizon, since the dev community is small compared to my other 2 options (Razr HD Maxx and Galaxy S3), however, with this new pesky 2.04 OTA that came pre-installed on my DNA, it seems like the community is currently at a halt.
I have approx 10 more days to return my DNA and get a second choice (Razr or Galaxy), but the hardware is really holding me to the DNA. I don't care much for Sense, and I've always been a motorola fan, however I also love to dev and mess with my phones. So, how likely is this 2.04 unlock? Or should I just go ahead and switch phones? Both the S3 and Razr have great dev communities. S3 has 2gb ram while the Razr has 1gb ram BUT has that amazing battery.
What should I do? I'm so indecisive right now and it's killing me!
I wouldn't buy a phone based on what might happen in the future. If nothing else, you could always sell it and buy one unlocked and s off.
The S3 is decent although old and I suspect dev support is on the downhill slope. I'm personally not a fan of the Razr. If it was my choice to make I'd keep the DNA or sell it and get one unlocked, or get a Note 2 to hold me over until Verizon gets the next HTC. The DNA 2 or One Variant.
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why not take it back to the store and swap it out instead? Just don't let the store reps update your software. I never let them do anything more then activate my sim card
Guess its a good thing the woman that sold me mine was not familiar with smartphones, I had to show her how to take out the SIM tray. I declined the update so I could familiarize myself to sense coming from the razr maxx
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why not take it back to the store and swap it out instead? Just don't let the store reps update your software. I never let them do anything more then activate my sim card
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You think the phone was updated and didn't just come already preloaded with the new software? I don't remember having to sit through any update, she simply opened it, popped in the sim card, and had me log into my gmail. If that's the case, then I might try that route.
I came from the Maxx and think the DNA is so much more of a phone that I live we the battery size. I got to say that there is something innate to flashaholics that we must have the latest version and once we have it, we want to newest version. In the end, they all still do the same damn thing. We risk bricking, endless hours of trying to fix something we may have screwed up in flashing variants and trying every rom out there and trying again and again. The DNA is a great phone as is. You will always want the next phone regardless so make a decision based on the phone in your hand not what it may be like once you get rooted and start the insanity again of trying to make it better. You can deactivate bloat, hid things in app drawer, it is still blazing fast, a portable battery hub solves the battery issue better than having to plug in everywhere, the Qi pad is sweet, still fits in jean pockets and it has a beautiful screen.
I came from the Maxx and think the DNA is so much more of a phone that I live we the battery size. I got to say that there is something innate to flashaholics that we must have the latest version and once we have it, we want to newest version. In the end, they all still do the same damn thing. We risk bricking, endless hours of trying to fix something we may have screwed up in flashing variants and trying every rom out there and trying again and again. The DNA is a great phone as is. You will always want the next phone regardless so make a decision based on the phone in your hand not what it may be like once you get rooted and start the insanity again of trying to make it better. You can deactivate bloat, hid things in app drawer, it is still blazing fast, a portable battery hub solves the battery issue better than having to plug in everywhere, the Qi pad is sweet, still fits in jean pockets and it has a beautiful screen.
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Why do you have to point out the amazingness of this phone and make my decision even harder!? I do agree with you though. The DNA has amazing more-than-currently-needed hardware, and that's really what's making my decision so hard. I have faith in the unlock, and plenty of patience, but it's hard being a developer and not being able to dev. I hate being restricted. I'm almost to the point of getting the Note II, but the phablet size is keeping me away for now.
Thanks for the input!
I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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Before the update came out I didn't root or unlock because I think phone is amazing on a stock rom. HTC really did a nice job. Although once it stops getting otas I will unlock root and put a custom rom and kernel but until then I'm just staying on stock. I don't see anything wrong with it. And if I get the urge to flash something I just flash my n7.
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Jaggar345 said:
Before the update came out I didn't root or unlock because I think phone is amazing on a stock rom. HTC really did a nice job. Although once it stops getting otas I will unlock root and put a custom rom and kernel but until then I'm just staying on stock. I don't see anything wrong with it. And if I get the urge to flash something I just flash my n7.
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I am rooted and unlocked but the main reason I did it was to remap to recents button to long press menu just go get rid of the black menu bar.
Other than that I was very happy with stock.
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My DNA is still locked and unrooted and honestly it doesn't bother me too much. It is pretty awesome as is. Sure it has some annoyances but what phone doesn't?
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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Absolutely, it's a very smooth phone. And like broons said, there are small things that bug me. I would like to root for tasker, hotspot/tether, custom notifications bar (i really dislike the sense skinned not bar), power on with volume, remve gps icon, and remove the bloat completely. Those are what I would do instantly, with only root. But of course, the main reason would be to flash roms and take a crack at the source myself
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Absolutely, it's a very smooth phone. And like broons said, there are small things that bug me. I would like to root for tasker, hotspot/tether, custom notifications bar (i really dislike the sense skinned not bar), power on with volume, remve gps icon, and remove the bloat completely. Those are what I would do instantly, with only root. But of course, the main reason would be to flash roms and take a crack at the source myself
Is there currently a team actively working on the 2.04 unlock?
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Guys If you want an exploit email and twitter at HTC and HTCDEV to release the 2.04 kernel source which they are LEGALLY required to do and have no done so yet. There is seriously a likely exploit there.
I'd stick with the DNA...cm 10.1 is almost done and if devs can't figure out a root method...which i think they will...you can send it off to get s-off for like $40...its not impossible to get s-off
Current team says it is not likely. Kernel source may help.
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Current team says it is not likely. Kernel source may help.
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^ Truth.
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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The first thing I do is ROOT when I get a phone. However I can't on the DNA b/c I'm also on 2.04. I'm actually with AT&T using the DNA. I don't have LTE, and MMS only works using GoSMS which I don't really care for. Even with the MMS issue, no LTE, and no ROOT, this phone is still worth it. If I was an actual VZW subscriber, this would be the phone to have for sure.
I want ROOT to remove the horrid software install popups when connecting by usb and to wifi tether. Other than that, the stock rom is pretty smooth. The hardware is just too BEAST to pass up. I'm coming from the OneX which was a great phone as well, but the DNA runs circles around the OneX.
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I just grabbed this phone from Verizon, since the dev community is small compared to my other 2 options (Razr HD Maxx and Galaxy S3), however, with this new pesky 2.04 OTA that came pre-installed on my DNA, it seems like the community is currently at a halt.
I have approx 10 more days to return my DNA and get a second choice (Razr or Galaxy), but the hardware is really holding me to the DNA. I don't care much for Sense, and I've always been a motorola fan, however I also love to dev and mess with my phones. So, how likely is this 2.04 unlock? Or should I just go ahead and switch phones? Both the S3 and Razr have great dev communities. S3 has 2gb ram while the Razr has 1gb ram BUT has that amazing battery.
What should I do? I'm so indecisive right now and it's killing me!
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I have had numerous Moto phones and the Razr Maxx HD was a big disappointment for me; and I tried hard to love that thing. 32 GB of memory and a battery like no other, but they skimped out by only including 1 GB of RAM which gave me redraw after redraw. It reminded me of my old Charge. The DNA is by far the best stock Android phone I've ever had (15 and counting). If you don't like Sense, then just throw Nova or something similar on top. I would never own a Samsung phone again, but if you're okay with the plastic, crappy feel, the S3 probably has the easiest phone to root and the most custom ROM's.
If you guys want any hope of an exploit, Twitter and email HTC and htcdev to release the kernel source! They are violating the gpl by not doing that.
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Had the Razr as well and loved it but the 1gb of RAM was the problem. Had they put 2gb in the HD's, right now, they would be owning market.
The DNA is amazing even unrooted. Power toggles and Nova make this phone completely unique and i haven't even played with ADW and other launchers. Just crazy fast and lightning quick.