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i know these two tab are very different due to the size and os but i am stuck between buying either one. i would like the flyer because its portable, fits in my pocket on the go and is easier to manage when in public. but i feel the flyer is not worth its price, its basically outdated due to the fact that its single core and it runs on 2.3 not honey comb. so i am afraid it will crash often like the tab 7 use to do to me. i would love the galaxy tab 10.1 i already seem what samsung did with the tab 7 so i cant imagine how much better this can be. i would love honey comb seem to be very stable and smooth running on dual proccessors. my only one con is that i think its big and yes i have read else where that 10.1 will only be good for couch surfing or home.
so what should i do portabilty, gps, can take it to work and not be in my way, or 10.1 tab
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i know these two tab are very different due to the size and os but i am stuck between buying either one. i would like the flyer because its portable, fits in my pocket on the go and is easier to manage when in public. but i feel the flyer is not worth its price, its basically outdated due to the fact that its single core and it runs on 2.3 not honey comb. so i am afraid it will crash often like the tab 7 use to do to me. i would love the galaxy tab 10.1 i already seem what samsung did with the tab 7 so i cant imagine how much better this can be. i would love honey comb seem to be very stable and smooth running on dual proccessors. my only one con is that i think its big and yes i have read else where that 10.1 will only be good for couch surfing or home.
so what should i do portabilty, gps, can take it to work and not be in my way, or 10.1 tab
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In my opinion, 8.9" fit in between the portability and home use. One thing I noticed is that Honeycomb UI has to be on landscape, it is kind of inflexible.
The 8.9 galaxy tab release hasn't been announced and i read somewhere its being delayed due to screen issues. But i do get what you are saying about landscape which is not a problem to me. Its just the portability
There is already a thread on this precise topic, with quite a few different opinions for you to check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109074
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i know these two tab are very different due to the size and os but i am stuck between buying either one. i would like the flyer because its portable, fits in my pocket on the go and is easier to manage when in public. but i feel the flyer is not worth its price, its basically outdated due to the fact that its single core and it runs on 2.3 not honey comb. so i am afraid it will crash often like the tab 7 use to do to me. i would love the galaxy tab 10.1 i already seem what samsung did with the tab 7 so i cant imagine how much better this can be. i would love honey comb seem to be very stable and smooth running on dual proccessors. my only one con is that i think its big and yes i have read else where that 10.1 will only be good for couch surfing or home.
so what should i do portabilty, gps, can take it to work and not be in my way, or 10.1 tab
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I use my Flyer exclusively since purchasing over my iPad for the portability. The 10" screen is really nice for magazines (Zinio), but for surfing the web, and email the portability is great. The pen integration is premium, but really brings this device into the boardroom which was always lacking on my iPad.
Sounds to me that if you get the Flyer you may always regret the single-core hardware. Its a solid performer regardless of the single-core and lack of honeycomb (ay the moment).
Yeah, I think the people have a problem with the single-core processor now that the super 'cool' tegra 2 is out. Either way, I just bought the HTC flyer to test it out and I think I will be keeping it because honestly it is simply PRACTICAL. It is easy to lug around, it is discrete, and the pen integration is just a plus. Go to the accessory section and find the post for the $27.00 Fujitsu stylus that works perfectly with the HTC flyer and you got yourself a good tablet.
I had the same question. I REALLY wanted the Flyer with the pen, Best Buy and HTC turned me off with the extra cost for the pen. $80 really? This is a good review of the Flyer http://liliputing.com/2011/06/htc-flyer-tablet-review.html It shows that it is actually faster than the Xoom...for gaming I don't know. It does use the same chip as the Xperia Play though. So probably no slouch in the graphics area too. But it only has a few programs that actual use the pen. Though if HTC ever releases the API http://htcdev.com/ then the Flyer could become very awesome. They also said they would upgrade to 3.x... So who knows. I like the form factor. 8.9 would be pretty sweet. Are any other tablets coming out with a pen? Though I think I'm leaning towards the Acer Icona.
Well i went out and got the tab 10.1. I couldnt resist the resolutiom and its very light. Im not use to the big screen but surfing the web is so much better its so smooth. Im in love right now. I did try the flyer i wanted the portability but i felt it was over priced. And plus i got a cover for i so i can just trow it in my nike bagg and take it to work. The only one thing that gets to me is that its not 3g but besides that just having a little difficulty holding it while typing. Ill be able to rate this better once i getan andriod phone that tethers
Of all the other tablets... besides the flyer and the ipad. Which tablet would you get just to play around with and root and maybe install linux on
xoom...xoom media...xoom 2
I only have the flyer, and I think that the best tablet of 10" is the iPad
IPad 3 is a good answer??
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The Flyer is actually my 2nd, Xoom was the 1st (both Wi-Fi only). I really like the Xoom, but what attracted me to the Flyer was the pen and how HTC integrated that functionality. I really can use this for work, taking notes for various things, and something smaller than the Xoom to hold in one hand. I may sell my Xoom, but the $200 price drop was attractive too.
Since I do IT for a living, knowing me I'll keep both!
HTC Jetstream. I really only buy HTC mobile devices, and its been that way for years now. A bigger screen would be nice for browsing and watching video while on the couch. But really, the Flyer is just right for me 90% of the time, and the portability of a 7" tablet is really nice.
i would love a $99 HP Touchpad... that bad boy will fly once it get Ice Cream.
I have an Asus Transformer and I am considering on purchasing a Flyer for the dashboard of my car.
Amazon kindle FIREEEEEE
for no reasons other than it's cheap and interesting...
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Amazon kindle FIREEEEEE
for no reasons other than it's cheap and interesting...
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Fire is very interesting if you don't have a tablet. But aside from some cool-sounding Amazon integration, I wouldn't consider it a good choice for a 2nd tablet alongside the Flyer. Same 7" size, no cameras, and its reported to be a slightly updated version of the RIM Playbook hardware, running Android. None of that sounds very good if you already have a Flyer. Amazon is rumored to be coming out with a "better" tablet in a larger size early 2012. The Fire is reported to be just a rush job, in order for Amazon to have a cheap tablet on the market for holiday season.
Just got the flyer as a replacement for my color nook. I also have a iPad 1 which is my main tablet and also a transformer. I would reccomend waiting until end of the year until the new Kal-el chips come out.
Either the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 or the ASUS slider. Both look really neat. Were I to get a second tablet it would be a 10" device. The Sony tablet that's shaped like a folded over magazine and runs PS1 games looks interesting as well.
love this one. It is Windows 7
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Iconia-W...I2PW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317853898&sr=8-1
Just picked up a 32gb touchpad the other day off of eBay. Pretty sweet the webos is nice. Can't wait for CM's port of android. If I bought one with android native I would want a 10 inch htc device or a a tab.
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I have the Thrive for connectivity and bigger display and the Flyer for "totability".
The Flyer performs better for all functions compared to my Droid 3 and Thrive. Even high def Flash plays better and does not run as warm as those devices.
$300 plus Flyer equals great consumer option.
Amazon Kindle. Flyer is fine, next higher device is a laptop. The gap between tablet and mobile would be closed by a nice little ebook reader
waiting for the samsung notes... 5" with a lighter weight would be better than flyer, although i like HTC more.
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Amazon Kindle. Flyer is fine, next higher device is a laptop. The gap between tablet and mobile would be closed by a nice little ebook reader
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I made some comments on the Fire previously on this thread. But now I'm also reading that the OS will be locked down to only allow apps from the Amazon Market, and not the Google Android Market. And no Netflix. The following article is speculating that the Fire will be as closed an ecosystem as the iPad.
http://andgeeks.com/google-android/tablets/the-kindle-fire-is-the-ipad-883366/
Pre-order numbers are very good, indicating this will be a popular tablet, and probably a healthy dev community. So the Fire will likely get rooted and have custom ROMs to overcome these limitations. But out-of-the-box, this device looks too limited.
The Flyer is my second device....... better said, was my second device. My iPad is now my second device.
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I too am looking longingly at the thrive... The transformer interest me because of the snap on snap off keyboard. But I am not sure I could tolerate something that didn't perform as well as my flyer. The 10"!htc looks interesting but I am not sure it is worth the price. For that much money I could get a ipad. I think waiting to see what the new chip sets bring is a good idea but I need a new toy for Christmas or maybe even Thanksgiving.
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The Flyer is actually my 2nd, Xoom was the 1st (both Wi-Fi only). I really like the Xoom, but what attracted me to the Flyer was the pen and how HTC integrated that functionality. I really can use this for work, taking notes for various things, and something smaller than the Xoom to hold in one hand. I may sell my Xoom, but the $200 price drop was attractive too.
Since I do IT for a living, knowing me I'll keep both!
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I have xoom wifi and thinking about the flyer for the same exact reason. I like the pen and software associated with it.
I like this on an acidemic level and a stylistic/artistic level
Good day all. I'm a Best Buy Silver member and have 45 day returns on merchandise. Anyways I picked up the Flyer a week ago and compared to the other tabs I have owned or own (Asus, Acer A500 and A100, HP Touchpad) this is the best in terms of overall functions. Another reason why I say that is because 10 inch tabs are over-the-top; especially if they don't have any ports (that's why I kept the Acer A500). I find 7-9 inchers are more usable. This Flyer is smooth and functions properly unlike most of the Honeycomb tabs. My only concern is will HTC update this beautiful beast? So I'm posing the question to the community of whether to ditch the Flyer or wait it out. Also any input or thoughts about the Samsung 7.0 Plus and if its worth the extra $100 are appreciated
I wish HTC would say something offical and it will make my decision clear.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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Yea this tablet game is crazy. Sometimes I wish I would have been simple and gotten an iPad. Android is getting ridiculous. Anyways the inferred remote, updates, and Samsung usually has a decent amount of accessories is what's keeping me interested. I just have a bad feeling that the flyer is dead.
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its maddening. HTC built an almost perfect tablet in the FLyer and then overpriced it at introduction and has failed to support it properly now. Makes me wonder if they are exiting the tablet market.
I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I think the Xoom 2 is a 8.2. I perfer the 7 inch, because I played with the Samsung 8 inch but it is tad big. I'm looking for something I can whip out in public and not look ridiculous. I think the Xoom will cost $545 though, didn't they learn anything?
http://androidcommunity.com/8-inch-...101/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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chimp
chimpsnest said:
Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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chimp
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Thank you, but the Nexus S is a phone, isn't it? And, yeah the 10" tab is going to be too large.
I'll have to get to Best Buy and see if they at least have an HTC Flyer on display that I can fiddle with.
I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
Maedhros said:
TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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You are right. I looked at some benchmark test it test better then every HC tab except te Samsung 10.1
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Black Friday will probably yield some good deals, so I'm at least hanging tight for that pricing to come out before jumping on anything - and I think I'm going to sell my Ipod Touch, latest gen, NEVER use it.
Ahhh, eBay (or friends on FB, lol)
I have the flyer and I love it! It's built super solid, its very fast, and I love how it scales apps in contrast to how to Galaxy tab did. On a 7" device I would end up using more phone apps then tablet apps anyway, so I don't care about honeycomb. I love my Flyer! The only thing that may replace it is the Galaxy Note...but then again I may still keep it since its really not worth it to only get $200 used for it. Hell, I'd keep it for that just to lend out or use it as a dedicated clock!
I used to be a active user here on XDA when Wondows mobile was the "cool" Mobile OS. Then I bought a iPod Touch when my father bought into the iPhone 3G. I got sucked into Apple with the 3GS, then the 4. I bought a 64gb 3g iPad when it came out, as well...but then I bought a ATT 3g Galaxy Tab refurbished just to try out android....and fell in love.(it made me feel like I used to with windows mobile...the customization) I kept the TAB for a few months then decided to sell both my iPad and my Tab and buy a iPad wifi for cheap, and a Flyer. I canceled my contract and used my unlimited ipad SIM in my Jailbroken iPhone 4....Loving life($30 a month is my only phone bill!)! That iPhone may be downgraded to a mp3 player though....since I am eye balling the Galaxy Note now.
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I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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The WiFi version is $300 on Amazon. But yes, the GSM one that I want is still pretty pricey. If I got the original Tab, though, I'd just pick it up from eBay or the forums or something. Or, maybe it will be on sale during Black Friday, since any retailers that still have them need to clear their inventory to make room for the Plus.
This is a hard decision, to be honest. After doing some more research on the Flyer, it seems that the easiest one to acquire in the States (the WiFi one from Best Buy), is also the one that throws up hurdles for modders, such as the inability to go back to stock from a custom ROM.
Now I'm kind of back at square one, debating between the original Tab, the Tab Plus, the Flyer, the IdeaPad A1, and pending more details and reviews, the Huawei MediaPad.
I'm itching for Ice Cream Sandwich and I'm annoyed that we'll probably never see it, neither officially nor through XDA development. I've been eyeing the Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" which comes with ICS.
But I was wondering, how do the specs compare in terms of performance, mainly the processor/GPU and camera? It seems it has a dual core processor, so perhaps it's slightly more powerful? (The difference in storage and pen input are complete non-issues for me.)
It may also be much thinner and lighter?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-7-Inch-Wi-Fi/dp/B007P4VOWC
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I'm itching for Ice Cream Sandwich and I'm annoyed that we'll probably never see it, neither officially nor through XDA development. I've been eyeing the Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" which comes with ICS.
But I was wondering, how do the specs compare in terms of performance, mainly the processor/GPU and camera? It seems it has a dual core processor, so perhaps it's slightly more powerful? (The difference in storage and pen input are complete non-issues for me.)
It may also be much thinner and lighter?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-7-Inch-Wi-Fi/dp/B007P4VOWC
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No scribe digitised pen though ... I thought the pen was great, really useful for scribbling accurate diagrams on the fly .... and then I lost my pen Life is dreadful now, tablet is still great, but without the pen I realise its not half as useful - replacement on order & I'll be more careful with it now !
If you haven't used a Flyer for an extended period with a pen you won't realise.
It's pretty much a wash for you except you get ICS.
The 1Ghz dual core vs 1.5Ghz single core has been debated back and forth about which is faster.
I've never had a problem with speed on my view, it has a great screen, it has the pen input (for me it's become a necessity), the stand alone gps etc etc. It just works for what I need.
Galaxy tab is more expensive, has no pen input, same specs other than the processor, but comes with ICS. *shrug*
In real life applications the Flyer will be faster than the Sammy since very little software acutally can take advantage of the dual core. I played with the Sammy at bestbuy. It's ok, but ICS seems to offer very little difference from Honeycomb.
I'd be more interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note with Pen, except I would never buy anything from AT&T.
Ics uses processor optimization . So it will use both the cores efficiently . The price is only 250. Seems like a steal to me. Plus i love Samsung browser, smooth as butter . Plus it will be supported with updates. Its also very sleek. The ui is much nicer and will be smoother than sense. Honestly though , don't lie, i know you guys see the lag on the view . Its very obvious . If you say you don't see it youre just lieing to yourself.
Go for it, i would if i didn't have this tab already.
HTC is rumored to preping a Samsung Galaxy Note competitor . Should have 5-inch screen with a 1080x1920 pixels of resolution, and it will be a true RGB display. A quad-core Krait processor inside with Adreno 320 GPU The upcoming HTC device will debut Sense 5.0 and have a Scribe pen.
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Ics uses processor optimization . So it will use both the cores efficiently . The price is only 250. Seems like a steal to me. Plus i love Samsung browser, smooth as butter . Plus it will be supported with updates. Its also very sleek. The ui is much nicer and will be smoother than sense. Honestly though , don't lie, i know you guys see the lag on the view . Its very obvious . If you say you don't see it youre just lieing to yourself.
Go for it, i would if i didn't have this tab already.
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"processor optimization" laughable....
there is no way single threaded software can be made mutli-threaded on the fly. Marketing speak... LOL
The Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 is one of the two tablets that I'm considering to replace my View. The Nexus tablet is the other one. I'm going to wait until that comes out before I make a decision.
The guy that the Flyer crowd has "hired" to make ICS for them has said he will do a View build when he's done with the Flyer build. If that happens, I'll probably just keep the View.
j510 said:
Ics uses processor optimization . So it will use both the cores efficiently . The price is only 250. Seems like a steal to me. Plus i love Samsung browser, smooth as butter . Plus it will be supported with updates. Its also very sleek. The ui is much nicer and will be smoother than sense. Honestly though , don't lie, i know you guys see the lag on the view . Its very obvious . If you say you don't see it youre just lieing to yourself.
Go for it, i would if i didn't have this tab already.
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what's up with you? looking at the few posts you have made and you're just bashing this tablet. do you have some personal vendetta against the flyer/view or HTC?
Sell your htc tablet and buy this then
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=5071535&pid=1218605851382
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My roommate just got this tablet and if I knew it was coming out honestly I would of waited. I think the Flyer COULD be faster but stock honeycomb is rubbish on it.
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I do not have any issues with my flyer either on HC or GB. that being said it is likely the development will be more active on the Samsung Tab
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My roommate just got this tablet and if I knew it was coming out honestly I would of waited. I think the Flyer COULD be faster but stock honeycomb is rubbish on it.
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Its not bad its just kind of slow. Im too used to exynos butter.
I can vouch that it seems dual core makes a bigger difference than raw speed. My flyer seemed pretty quick untill I got my vivid which is 300 MHz slower but has a dual core. That being said I don't know all the differences between hc and ics on tablets. Ics was pretty snappy on my ancient galaxy s 1 based captivate, honeycomb might be just designed around dual cores while ics is more friendly to all hardware. That being said I still love this tablet and its not slow by any means. For whatever reason with globaltrons stock ics Rom with s-OFF it does seem faster. But at any rate I paid $200 for this tab and only got it at that price because it was refurbished. The tab 2 is a brand new tab at $250 and that's a full Android tablet with all the fixings priced against glorified ereaders. I wouldn't sell my Flyer to get one now but indeed its a bargain for anyone who wants a tab and doesnt have one... Why would anyone get a kindle fire or nook tablet now?
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And yeah development is a big issue with HTC device's. They are just harder to mod than Samsungs and development is also dependent on buzz and hype. Samsung has had all the hits and they have unlocked bootloaders.
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The big issue is whether you want to be able to use a stylus or not. The trade off for not having ICS is huge.
Stock HC is FINE on the View for the capabilities you will get with the stylus--IFF you need it. Otherwise, if you are just looking for a tablet and have no need for the pen, then go for Samsung. ICS a huge improvement but if you are okay with a tablet that works very well and is useful then the View is fine.
You may want to consider the Flyer since there is far more development for it. For me, the View is a muuuuuch sexier device.
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I really don't care about the pen because the price is absurd. Besides you can always get a regular capacitive stylus. I got my Flyer because it was a cheap honeycomb tablet with good hardware and a gig of ram.
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With the Flyer discontinued and the Samsung GTab selling for $250.00 there's really little point in seeking out a Flyer if you're in the market for a 7" tablet (unless you absolutely positively must have the stylus). But if you already own a Flyer, I'd hold out for a Quad Core Tegra 3 tablet to replace the Flyer. I doubt the Samsung GTab 2.0 will feel a whole lot faster, but the new Tegra 3 tablets definitely run faster. Having played Pinball Arcade on my Flyer and an ASUS Transformer Prime, I can promise you, the difference is very obvious.
Now, me personally, I'm going to hold on to my Flyer for some time. I really like this little tablet. But I'm also about to go out and buy an ASUS Transformer TF300. Played with one in Best Buy and it's awesome, especially with the keyboard dock.
I don't plan on replacing my Flyer anytime soon. I'm planning on holding onto it for a couple years. As for the tab 2 no there aren't enough reasons to give up the flyer for one plus its got weaker cameras and less storage, but if your in the market for a tab now then yes definitely get a tab 2 over a discontinued unsupported flyer or view.
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I don't see anything close to what I need except the Samsung Galaxy Note. When I replace my phone, I'll get that. When I need more power I'm not getting a tablet, I'm getting a Asus or Toshiba Ultrabook. As thin as a tablet with 10x the power and a 14" screen.
I need a 7 inch amoled type screen tab
I absolutely need a tablet with pen functionality, and I'm stuck between the 3 choices above. Appreciate any advice from the community:
HTC Flyer Pros:
Very good aftermarket "hacking" support in term of custom ROM, upgrading OS, etc... I've seen what good this can do, my 2 year old Sprint Epic 4G (running ICS) absolutely defeats all the current generation phones with A9 dual core (but running Gingerbread) in benchmarks
HTC Flyer Cons:
Hardware is two generations out of date (CPU is from the A8 Cortex era)
Thinkpad Tablet Pros:
A9 Cortex era hardware... so only one generation out of date, but the Nvidia Tegra 2 was the worst of the A9 SoC.
Thinkpad Tablet Cons:
Not as vibrant an aftermarket support as the HTC Flyer. I've seen many frustrated posts here on this forum.
HTC Jetstream Pros:
A9 Cortex era hardware... so only one generation out of date, and specs wise better than Nvidia Tegra 2. Best hardware out of the 3
HTC Jetstream Cons:
I think the aftermarket support is dead. No ICS. Only one custom ROM exist.
I can't wait for the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 to launch and it's too pricey for me too. Which tablet would you choose if you were in my shoes?
Don't know the other products but I have an Ipad 3 and I am still amazed by the usability of my Flyer and the pen is just the best.
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I love mine flyer couse of versetilitiy that flyer gives (really what does it lack off?). Grat suport by devs and regardles 2 generatins old hardware is stil very good and runs all new stuf smooth. I seen newer tabs runing much worse.
Flyer on GB runs VERY VERY VERY good. Everythgin works and no bugs i seen. ICS atm realy looks promising for us...
But thats just me...
I don't know if I'd consider the First gen dual cores out of date yet. Our flyer maybe, though it has an awesome GPU and a gig of ram to make up for it. The 1ghz SoC's all could of been faster had they just gave them a gig of ram instead of 512. IMO 512 isn't enough.
EDIT ok based on your 3 options and now I know what the ideapad looks like, yeah the flyer is your best bet. Its 7 inches, which is the perfect size, and has a well thought out design. I just looked up the ideapad and its rubbish. The Jetstream is also very nice if you want a 10.1 design.
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Honestly the Jetstream is a pretty cool tab, it literally seems like a Flyer on steroids. Near identical design, with a 3 inch larger screen, a dual LED 8MP camera, and a dual core.
If money is no issue, grab a Samsung series 7 slate, I paid $999 for mines but it came with a $200 gift card, a keyboard, and a dock. I also have a flyer and while it's good for quick notes and sketches, it doesn't beat the power of having windows with onenote installed.
Yeah but he's looking for one with a pen, I don't think the Sammys have pens
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The Samsung Series 7 uses a stylus and also has 10 finger multi-touch. I think the microsoft store has the best deal right now although I got mines cheaper earlier in the year. The new bundle comes with a xbox 360.
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/en_US/pd/productID.241554200
lol samsung makes too many tablets. galaxy tab, galaxy tab 10.1, 7.0 plus, 7.7, 8.9, galaxy tab 2, and I hear galaxy note tablets are coming too, very confusing from a consumer standpoint.
What is the 7 series, the tab 2's or something entirely different?
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lol samsung makes too many tablets. galaxy tab, galaxy tab 10.1, 7.0 plus, 7.7, 8.9, galaxy tab 2, and I hear galaxy note tablets are coming too, very confusing from a consumer standpoint.
What is the 7 series, the tab 2's or something entirely different?
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Lol they do have too many tabs. The slate is a full blown windows pc that has a i5 and 128gb ssd. I'm running windows 8 on mines and it flies. The flyer is good but it didn't work too well for me with taking long college notes. It worked better for me with making lists and jotting down quick notes. With that being said, I still believe that the flyer is the best 7 inch tab even with the upcoming nexus. I am sort of jealous of the 720p on the nexus but the active digitizer on the flyer is far more useful for me.
To the op, why exactly do you need pen functionality. If you are just trying to take quick notes and nothing professional, I would go with the flyer or jetstream depending on which screen size you prefer. Also, keep in mind that both the flyer and jetstream are integrated with evernote so you will be able to easily sync all your handwritten notes to your phone and pc. On the lenovo, the sketching is done through notes mobile and I'm not sure if it has cloud sync. You can install evernote but it would only support typed notes which defeats the purpose of buying a a stylus tablet. I bring this up because it is important to use a tablet that has some sort of cloud solution for your notes. It would suck to lose all of your notes if you device is stolen or broken. The ultimate note taking system is onenote but you can only get the full experience on a windows pc/slate. If I were you, I would wait a few months and see what happens with all the new windows 8 tablets that will flood the market. Also, the Windows Surface will accept stylus input and is rumored to start at around $600.
Yeah not sure what his pricing needs are, or what he's needs are but being completely unbiased, if pricing isn't a barrier and you need one for business reasons having a full windows pc inside a tablet would be more useful. However if you just want something for quick note taking not sure anything could be better than the flyer as the small size is convenient for holding in one hand, and you can pick them up cheap if you shop around
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