I absolutely need a tablet with pen functionality, and I'm stuck between the 3 choices above. Appreciate any advice from the community:
HTC Flyer Pros:
Very good aftermarket "hacking" support in term of custom ROM, upgrading OS, etc... I've seen what good this can do, my 2 year old Sprint Epic 4G (running ICS) absolutely defeats all the current generation phones with A9 dual core (but running Gingerbread) in benchmarks
HTC Flyer Cons:
Hardware is two generations out of date (CPU is from the A8 Cortex era)
Thinkpad Tablet Pros:
A9 Cortex era hardware... so only one generation out of date, but the Nvidia Tegra 2 was the worst of the A9 SoC.
Thinkpad Tablet Cons:
Not as vibrant an aftermarket support as the HTC Flyer. I've seen many frustrated posts here on this forum.
HTC Jetstream Pros:
A9 Cortex era hardware... so only one generation out of date, and specs wise better than Nvidia Tegra 2. Best hardware out of the 3
HTC Jetstream Cons:
I think the aftermarket support is dead. No ICS. Only one custom ROM exist.
I can't wait for the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 to launch and it's too pricey for me too. Which tablet would you choose if you were in my shoes?
Don't know the other products but I have an Ipad 3 and I am still amazed by the usability of my Flyer and the pen is just the best.
Maffs, HTC X7500, P510e, Ipad
I love mine flyer couse of versetilitiy that flyer gives (really what does it lack off?). Grat suport by devs and regardles 2 generatins old hardware is stil very good and runs all new stuf smooth. I seen newer tabs runing much worse.
Flyer on GB runs VERY VERY VERY good. Everythgin works and no bugs i seen. ICS atm realy looks promising for us...
But thats just me...
I don't know if I'd consider the First gen dual cores out of date yet. Our flyer maybe, though it has an awesome GPU and a gig of ram to make up for it. The 1ghz SoC's all could of been faster had they just gave them a gig of ram instead of 512. IMO 512 isn't enough.
EDIT ok based on your 3 options and now I know what the ideapad looks like, yeah the flyer is your best bet. Its 7 inches, which is the perfect size, and has a well thought out design. I just looked up the ideapad and its rubbish. The Jetstream is also very nice if you want a 10.1 design.
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Honestly the Jetstream is a pretty cool tab, it literally seems like a Flyer on steroids. Near identical design, with a 3 inch larger screen, a dual LED 8MP camera, and a dual core.
If money is no issue, grab a Samsung series 7 slate, I paid $999 for mines but it came with a $200 gift card, a keyboard, and a dock. I also have a flyer and while it's good for quick notes and sketches, it doesn't beat the power of having windows with onenote installed.
Yeah but he's looking for one with a pen, I don't think the Sammys have pens
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The Samsung Series 7 uses a stylus and also has 10 finger multi-touch. I think the microsoft store has the best deal right now although I got mines cheaper earlier in the year. The new bundle comes with a xbox 360.
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/en_US/pd/productID.241554200
lol samsung makes too many tablets. galaxy tab, galaxy tab 10.1, 7.0 plus, 7.7, 8.9, galaxy tab 2, and I hear galaxy note tablets are coming too, very confusing from a consumer standpoint.
What is the 7 series, the tab 2's or something entirely different?
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lol samsung makes too many tablets. galaxy tab, galaxy tab 10.1, 7.0 plus, 7.7, 8.9, galaxy tab 2, and I hear galaxy note tablets are coming too, very confusing from a consumer standpoint.
What is the 7 series, the tab 2's or something entirely different?
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Lol they do have too many tabs. The slate is a full blown windows pc that has a i5 and 128gb ssd. I'm running windows 8 on mines and it flies. The flyer is good but it didn't work too well for me with taking long college notes. It worked better for me with making lists and jotting down quick notes. With that being said, I still believe that the flyer is the best 7 inch tab even with the upcoming nexus. I am sort of jealous of the 720p on the nexus but the active digitizer on the flyer is far more useful for me.
To the op, why exactly do you need pen functionality. If you are just trying to take quick notes and nothing professional, I would go with the flyer or jetstream depending on which screen size you prefer. Also, keep in mind that both the flyer and jetstream are integrated with evernote so you will be able to easily sync all your handwritten notes to your phone and pc. On the lenovo, the sketching is done through notes mobile and I'm not sure if it has cloud sync. You can install evernote but it would only support typed notes which defeats the purpose of buying a a stylus tablet. I bring this up because it is important to use a tablet that has some sort of cloud solution for your notes. It would suck to lose all of your notes if you device is stolen or broken. The ultimate note taking system is onenote but you can only get the full experience on a windows pc/slate. If I were you, I would wait a few months and see what happens with all the new windows 8 tablets that will flood the market. Also, the Windows Surface will accept stylus input and is rumored to start at around $600.
Yeah not sure what his pricing needs are, or what he's needs are but being completely unbiased, if pricing isn't a barrier and you need one for business reasons having a full windows pc inside a tablet would be more useful. However if you just want something for quick note taking not sure anything could be better than the flyer as the small size is convenient for holding in one hand, and you can pick them up cheap if you shop around
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The Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be out on 6/17/11 from the latest reports and will cost less then the HTC Flyer. I'm thinking about it but I like the 7" form factor of the Flyer and don't want to give that up.
Nope
I chose the Flyer for the form factor and the stylus interface. so nope. I will not be trading it in.
I heard the new Galaxy Tabs may be delayed in Europe.
I am sticking with the flyer. I like the size.
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They are different categories the 7 inch tabs cant be compared to the 10.1 tabs
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They are different categories the 7 inch tabs cant be compared to the 10.1 tabs
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Absolutely! They are completely different devices/categories as you say, and cannot be meaningfully compared.
I am getting increasingly fed up with lame 'comparisons' and reviews between 7 inch and 8.9/10.1 inch tablets.
I use my 7 inch tabs (flyer and SGT) for their portabily, I will never wear pants with pockets big enough for a 10 inch tablet. But at home on the couch a 10 incher is better (LOL) so I'll get one later this year for home use, when I decide which one is best.
But for me the 7 inch form factor will always get more use.
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7" tablets is perfect for me regarding the mobility . 10" is ok, but for home use...and home I have a computer, so for sure I'm not gonna trade in.
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I chose the Flyer for the form factor and the stylus interface. so nope. I will not be trading it in.
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Yep, unless you are using your tablet to sit on the coach and surf, a 10.1 inch tablet is pretty much useless. I mean, how do you carry it around? I can put the Flyer in my coat pocket. I still haven't figured out how people hold these huge heavy tablets in one hand as they read or navigate.
7 inches in perfect size for a tablet for those on the go.
P.S., I'll put my 1.5 Ghz single core up against a 1 Ghz dual core speedwise surfing the web any time any day. The whole dual core thing is mostly hype.
My problem with the flyer is that it is supposed to be updated to honeycomb but has the buttons that will be useless when honeycomb launches. Right now sense is great but apps made for cellphones looks stupid. I don't see myself walking around writing on any tablet. Thats what a cellphone is for. The flyer sits right in a niche that will be dominated by 8 inch tablets.
8 inches is the prefered size, ask any lady..
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My problem with the flyer is that it is supposed to be updated to honeycomb but has the buttons that will be useless when honeycomb launches. Right now sense is great but apps made for cellphones looks stupid. I don't see myself walking around writing on any tablet. Thats what a cellphone is for. The flyer sits right in a niche that will be dominated by 8 inch tablets.
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Problem is after using my flyer, I can't stand to use my Droid x for anything besides phone calls. The screen is just too small. It will also be very dificult to get an 8" tablet in a pants pocket
I'm a owner and advance user of HTC Flyer and iPad, I went and buy the HTCF because it was an HTC product (they never let me down) . The main use of my tablets are for work, but I'll not trade the flyer because any Tablet will lack the same thing that I miss today, "presentation tools", iPad is almost perfect in that área but it can't shows hiperlink so Ive managed to do something else with the splashtop remote software.
So I guess that maybe I would trade for a Tablet that comes with a software from Microsoft, and thats only because I use Msft software for job.
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I chose the Flyer for the form factor and the stylus interface. so nope. I will not be trading it in.
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This exactly! It fits perfectly in my pocket. is easy to carry round and the stylus is actually bringing something new! Oh and I got my 3G Flyer for the price of a WiFi one so that definitely increases customer satisfaction!
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Problem is after using my flyer, I can't stand to use my Droid x for anything besides phone calls. The screen is just too small. It will also be very dificult to get an 8" tablet in a pants pocket
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I am not saying the flyer is not great because its awesome. I still think it will find it hard to find itself into peoples homes. I am willing to bet that it runs its course before it gets honeycomb.
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The Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be out on 6/17/11 from the latest reports and will cost less then the HTC Flyer. I'm thinking about it but I like the 7" form factor of the Flyer and don't want to give that up.
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Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be the same price as the Flyer, at least here in the US. $499.99 for the 16 GB.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+Galaxy+Tab+10.1+-+16GB+-+Metallic+Gray+Black/2817582.p?id=1218353419132&skuId=2817582&st=galaxy%20tab&cp=1&lp=4
I debated about this a bit too. But I decided on the Flyer, since I love HTC products (on my 3rd HTC phone), and like Sense. But I have to admit, many of the Honeycomb features look pretty cool. As already noted, form factor is obviously a key difference, and it depends on how you value portability versus screen real estate.
HTC FLyer FTW
Ok people. I daftly started another very similar thread on the Flyer vs the GT. So I will forget that one as this is established.
This is my situation - my misses phone contract is up and the new deal she is looking at has either a GT 7inch thrown in with it or the Flyer. She has very kindly said that I can have the tab off the deal. So I'm in a nice position of being able to choose, for FREE! Which one then people? Can either of them HDMI mirror? Or at least HDMI video playback?
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I am debating the tab 10 or the flyer. I had the tab 7 loved it because it was very portable and carried it with me everywhere . But it crashed often and it started to remind me of wm. Ive tried honey comb and i love it. Fast smooth and stable. So now I'm confused keep it portable or have to carry a bag around? my main use of a tab is surfing web, GPS, games, kindle ECT.
Also another reason I'm debating is the price on the flyer is too high for a 7". Its priced on a 10" price range. So I feel if I'm paying that price I mine as well get the tab. Specially since its dual core which in my opinion makes me feel like the flyer will be outdated by the end of the year And from what seen from the tab 7 the screen resolution is great. I know honey comb is coming to the flyer but how smooth will it run on a single core? Never had an HTC Android device so i dont know how good there update are
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I am debating the tab 10 or the flyer. I had the tab 7 loved it because it was very portable and carried it with me everywhere . But it crashed often and it started to remind me of wm. Ive tried honey comb and i love it. Fast smooth and stable. So now I'm confused keep it portable or have to carry a bag around? my main use of a tab is surfing web, GPS, games, kindle ECT.
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Other here have had the Flyer longer, and can add their comments on this. But I've had mine for over a week, and no crashes or freezing whatsoever. I'd explore the possibility that the problem was the manufacturer, not the OS version.
Now that the flyer is priced somewhere in the range of reasonable. A lot of people are discovering that this is a pretty nice device. It holds up very well considering the fact that the only other tablet around during its development was the original Samsung Galaxy Tab. At some point in the future we will find it outdated. What would you like for the next flyer?
I want to see:
ICS
thinner & lighter
We will see what happens. Acer just announced they are scaling back their touch device efforts both phone and tablet and reducing the staff or moving them to other efforts.
I would like to to
ICS
Increased pen response
64gb internal storage option
source released sooner
ips screen
Wishlist for Flyer:
ICS
I know I know, really long wish list but I'm still hopeful
Dual core CPU is a no brainer.
Suprised you guys left that out!
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Didn't leave it out. Tegra 2 chips suck compared to the single core that the flyer has. Quad core CPU is another story. tak
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Dual core CPU is a no brainer.
Suprised you guys left that out!
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USB host, and a faster chip. Also better pen integration.
Vulcan mind meld link
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Oh, and fully resizeable Sense widgets and the option to set the grid size for the Sense launcher and docks like Launcher Pro or ADW.
I had a chance to play with one at BB. Just loved everythign about it. It felt so nice to hold. Out of all the tablets there, it just hit me right. Are they still making them. BB said no? sure would like t oget one used then if th eprice comes down a tad..
Quad core CPU
"retina" screen, super amoled preferably
System-wide pen support
INTEGRATED pen, like the galaxy note
Camera flash
I wish HTC would start making their devices thinner. Samsung has really stepped up their game lately with their phones and tablets by being thin and having great specs. Touchwiz makes me want to throw up though as I do like Sense to an extent. I think the Jetstream is a good tablet but HTC needs to price their tablets better.
It will be interesting to see the next gen of tablets. Quad-core, ICS, more memory are definitely things to come.
Am I insane for liking the bulkiness of the Flyer/View? I had a Nook Tablet previously and returned that due to the crazy locked-down environment it's in. One of my gripes with it was the form factor, 8.1 x 5.0 " seemed a little to big for me to fit in my pocket and holding it seemed awkward because it was so thin. When I got the View, it felt much sturdier compared to the NT and a Kindle Fire I played with at Target. Maybe it's just a personal preference thing.
I like having a little more to hold onto too. The slightly raised end is a good handhold in landscape, but I would like it on the other side as well.
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Am I insane for liking the bulkiness of the Flyer/View? I had a Nook Tablet previously and returned that due to the crazy locked-down environment it's in. One of my gripes with it was the form factor, 8.1 x 5.0 " seemed a little to big for me to fit in my pocket and holding it seemed awkward because it was so thin. When I got the View, it felt much sturdier compared to the NT and a Kindle Fire I played with at Target. Maybe it's just a personal preference thing.
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You can always add bulk by getting a case or protective skin. No way for some one to take bulk down
Thinner? That doesn't even make sense.
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Well was out at AT&T and picked up the JS for $649 plus the free stylus pen.
Really like how well it feels, of course all HTC devices seem to bea bit heavy but are made of good materials.
So far it is pretty fast and actually is and feels much snappier than my SGT 10.1 and also faster without any lag compared to the AT&T GT 8.9 that I have been testing for about a week. Also compared to the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet which is very laggy this JS flys without a hitch.
It is very compact compared to other 10.1 inch tablets and has a very good camera as well. Normally I wil not be using the camera, but having it work so well, I might use it on the HTC JS.
Other great feature is the digitizer on the JS. This is one of the main reasons I leaned towards the purchase and the price as well. Also nice to have the 4G LTE built in. So basically covered in all radios.
I know that the new current models will be getting Quad-Core processors, but none so far will have the digitizer.
The JS is very loud compared to all the tablets I have tested. This includes the SGT 10.1, SGT 7, SGT 8.9, Motorola Xoom, Acer Iconia, HTC Flyer and ThinkPad Tablet.
Well, I will be testing this device out and check to make sure the GPS works like on the Samsung tablets which is very instant.
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I'm itching for Ice Cream Sandwich and I'm annoyed that we'll probably never see it, neither officially nor through XDA development. I've been eyeing the Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" which comes with ICS.
But I was wondering, how do the specs compare in terms of performance, mainly the processor/GPU and camera? It seems it has a dual core processor, so perhaps it's slightly more powerful? (The difference in storage and pen input are complete non-issues for me.)
It may also be much thinner and lighter?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-7-Inch-Wi-Fi/dp/B007P4VOWC
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I'm itching for Ice Cream Sandwich and I'm annoyed that we'll probably never see it, neither officially nor through XDA development. I've been eyeing the Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" which comes with ICS.
But I was wondering, how do the specs compare in terms of performance, mainly the processor/GPU and camera? It seems it has a dual core processor, so perhaps it's slightly more powerful? (The difference in storage and pen input are complete non-issues for me.)
It may also be much thinner and lighter?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-7-Inch-Wi-Fi/dp/B007P4VOWC
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No scribe digitised pen though ... I thought the pen was great, really useful for scribbling accurate diagrams on the fly .... and then I lost my pen Life is dreadful now, tablet is still great, but without the pen I realise its not half as useful - replacement on order & I'll be more careful with it now !
If you haven't used a Flyer for an extended period with a pen you won't realise.
It's pretty much a wash for you except you get ICS.
The 1Ghz dual core vs 1.5Ghz single core has been debated back and forth about which is faster.
I've never had a problem with speed on my view, it has a great screen, it has the pen input (for me it's become a necessity), the stand alone gps etc etc. It just works for what I need.
Galaxy tab is more expensive, has no pen input, same specs other than the processor, but comes with ICS. *shrug*
In real life applications the Flyer will be faster than the Sammy since very little software acutally can take advantage of the dual core. I played with the Sammy at bestbuy. It's ok, but ICS seems to offer very little difference from Honeycomb.
I'd be more interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note with Pen, except I would never buy anything from AT&T.
Ics uses processor optimization . So it will use both the cores efficiently . The price is only 250. Seems like a steal to me. Plus i love Samsung browser, smooth as butter . Plus it will be supported with updates. Its also very sleek. The ui is much nicer and will be smoother than sense. Honestly though , don't lie, i know you guys see the lag on the view . Its very obvious . If you say you don't see it youre just lieing to yourself.
Go for it, i would if i didn't have this tab already.
HTC is rumored to preping a Samsung Galaxy Note competitor . Should have 5-inch screen with a 1080x1920 pixels of resolution, and it will be a true RGB display. A quad-core Krait processor inside with Adreno 320 GPU The upcoming HTC device will debut Sense 5.0 and have a Scribe pen.
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Ics uses processor optimization . So it will use both the cores efficiently . The price is only 250. Seems like a steal to me. Plus i love Samsung browser, smooth as butter . Plus it will be supported with updates. Its also very sleek. The ui is much nicer and will be smoother than sense. Honestly though , don't lie, i know you guys see the lag on the view . Its very obvious . If you say you don't see it youre just lieing to yourself.
Go for it, i would if i didn't have this tab already.
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"processor optimization" laughable....
there is no way single threaded software can be made mutli-threaded on the fly. Marketing speak... LOL
The Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 is one of the two tablets that I'm considering to replace my View. The Nexus tablet is the other one. I'm going to wait until that comes out before I make a decision.
The guy that the Flyer crowd has "hired" to make ICS for them has said he will do a View build when he's done with the Flyer build. If that happens, I'll probably just keep the View.
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Ics uses processor optimization . So it will use both the cores efficiently . The price is only 250. Seems like a steal to me. Plus i love Samsung browser, smooth as butter . Plus it will be supported with updates. Its also very sleek. The ui is much nicer and will be smoother than sense. Honestly though , don't lie, i know you guys see the lag on the view . Its very obvious . If you say you don't see it youre just lieing to yourself.
Go for it, i would if i didn't have this tab already.
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what's up with you? looking at the few posts you have made and you're just bashing this tablet. do you have some personal vendetta against the flyer/view or HTC?
Sell your htc tablet and buy this then
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=5071535&pid=1218605851382
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My roommate just got this tablet and if I knew it was coming out honestly I would of waited. I think the Flyer COULD be faster but stock honeycomb is rubbish on it.
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My roommate just got this tablet and if I knew it was coming out honestly I would of waited. I think the Flyer COULD be faster but stock honeycomb is rubbish on it.
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Its not bad its just kind of slow. Im too used to exynos butter.
I can vouch that it seems dual core makes a bigger difference than raw speed. My flyer seemed pretty quick untill I got my vivid which is 300 MHz slower but has a dual core. That being said I don't know all the differences between hc and ics on tablets. Ics was pretty snappy on my ancient galaxy s 1 based captivate, honeycomb might be just designed around dual cores while ics is more friendly to all hardware. That being said I still love this tablet and its not slow by any means. For whatever reason with globaltrons stock ics Rom with s-OFF it does seem faster. But at any rate I paid $200 for this tab and only got it at that price because it was refurbished. The tab 2 is a brand new tab at $250 and that's a full Android tablet with all the fixings priced against glorified ereaders. I wouldn't sell my Flyer to get one now but indeed its a bargain for anyone who wants a tab and doesnt have one... Why would anyone get a kindle fire or nook tablet now?
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And yeah development is a big issue with HTC device's. They are just harder to mod than Samsungs and development is also dependent on buzz and hype. Samsung has had all the hits and they have unlocked bootloaders.
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The big issue is whether you want to be able to use a stylus or not. The trade off for not having ICS is huge.
Stock HC is FINE on the View for the capabilities you will get with the stylus--IFF you need it. Otherwise, if you are just looking for a tablet and have no need for the pen, then go for Samsung. ICS a huge improvement but if you are okay with a tablet that works very well and is useful then the View is fine.
You may want to consider the Flyer since there is far more development for it. For me, the View is a muuuuuch sexier device.
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I really don't care about the pen because the price is absurd. Besides you can always get a regular capacitive stylus. I got my Flyer because it was a cheap honeycomb tablet with good hardware and a gig of ram.
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With the Flyer discontinued and the Samsung GTab selling for $250.00 there's really little point in seeking out a Flyer if you're in the market for a 7" tablet (unless you absolutely positively must have the stylus). But if you already own a Flyer, I'd hold out for a Quad Core Tegra 3 tablet to replace the Flyer. I doubt the Samsung GTab 2.0 will feel a whole lot faster, but the new Tegra 3 tablets definitely run faster. Having played Pinball Arcade on my Flyer and an ASUS Transformer Prime, I can promise you, the difference is very obvious.
Now, me personally, I'm going to hold on to my Flyer for some time. I really like this little tablet. But I'm also about to go out and buy an ASUS Transformer TF300. Played with one in Best Buy and it's awesome, especially with the keyboard dock.
I don't plan on replacing my Flyer anytime soon. I'm planning on holding onto it for a couple years. As for the tab 2 no there aren't enough reasons to give up the flyer for one plus its got weaker cameras and less storage, but if your in the market for a tab now then yes definitely get a tab 2 over a discontinued unsupported flyer or view.
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I don't see anything close to what I need except the Samsung Galaxy Note. When I replace my phone, I'll get that. When I need more power I'm not getting a tablet, I'm getting a Asus or Toshiba Ultrabook. As thin as a tablet with 10x the power and a 14" screen.
I need a 7 inch amoled type screen tab
A new HTC tablet is comming to the UK. I hope it is gonna be a 7 inch with stylus. That is the size I need.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-vertex-hd-tablet-uncovered-with-quad-core-tegra-3-12238285/
they should fix honeycomb before moving on
I would not buy it until HTC proves they are committed to it
Flyer
Actually, a new device hopefully not too different from Flyer with a new ROM would be a nice port base. Why complain?
EDIT: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/12/htc-vertex-pops-up-in-benchmarks/
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I would not buy it until HTC proves they are committed to it
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I came here to pretty much say the same thing. HTC's lack of decent support for tablets has turned me off to their future offerings until they get their act together. They also dropped the ball on my Evo 3D which is another sore subject. lol.
flyer 2
the support for one was very bad and as only tablet we do not get ICS, thei can forget me as customer
HTC can go suck a fat one. I'm sorry. But this is their second foray into the tablet market, & again they're (planning to) release their product with an outdated OS. Why a crappy 2MP rear camera? HTC have seen the last of my money. Anybody interested in their products, I wish them good luck.
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After miserable failures on the Flyer and Jet Stream (I own a Flyer) which were good hardware but failed due to extreme high price and lack of software updates, I doubt HTC can make any headway. I expect this new tablet will be priced at about $600 if HTC history has any bearing
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Honeycomb works fine for me.
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HTC can go suck a fat one. I'm sorry. But this is their second foray into the tablet market, & again they're (planning to) release their product with an outdated OS. Why a crappy 2MP rear camera? HTC have seen the last of my money. Anybody interested in their products, I wish them good luck.
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Huh the page I read said it was running ICS...how is that "outdated"?
DigitalMD said:
After miserable failures on the Flyer and Jet Stream (I own a Flyer) which were good hardware but failed due to extreme high price and lack of software updates, I doubt HTC can make any headway. I expect this new tablet will be priced at about $600 if HTC history has any bearing
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2 MP camera sounds more like in a budget tablet. $600 will be too high for a budget tablet. Tablet market is very competitive. Very nice wifi only tablets are coming for $ 100 nowadays with ics on them. So $ 350 approx seems to be a good price for competition.
Edit: didn't read the op link. Seems tegra 3 quad core with 10 inch display and other features may spoil its pricing.
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I was excited till I read it was 10 inch I really think 7 is the idea size. At 10 inches you might as well grab a laptop because portability has gone to hell at that point.
I tend to think HTC will do a better job with this tablet though. I think it'll be priced modestly between $300 to $350, and marketed very well too. All and all for what its worth, they made an excellent tabs with the Flyer, View, and Jetstream, but poor marketing and high tags killed all 3, and I got no hard feelings. The Flyer is a failed product, *****ing about no more updates is like buying a Sega Dreamcast and *****ing about no new games coming out for it.
Here's my vision for the perfect HTC tab, same shape and design as the flyer, but with a one x type paint job, and poly carbonate shell instead of aluminum for a better grip, less weight, and reduced cost. Hardware keys just like the Flyer, but updated with the new layout, which would work wonders with the new tablet ui on Jellybean. A Sense 4 launcher that can rotate to landscape, and of course tegra 3 internals, and maybe the same front and rear cameras that are on the flyer, but they could do away with the 2 "grips" on the sides of the flyer, and just have a solid back, and a straight port for the SD slot.
I'd definitely be ineterested in a 7" Tegra 3 Flyer running Jellybean. If it came with an sdCard slot and I could reuse my ntrig pen, I'd even spend $50.00 to $100.00 more than an equivalent Nexus 7.
I've had my Flyer for nearly a year and it's been great that whole time. I'll keep using it for some time to come, too. But at some point I'm going to want something faster.
I agree, stupid move for HTC, if it will be 10".
In 10" segment they will compete with Transformer and Transformer Prime with the same or better specs. If they add pen input, they will compete with Lenovo Tablet (dual core), which already fallen in price and will go down even more. And all compete with iPad and upcoming Microsoft Surface.
7" is a lot more forgiving market for HTC. Sure, Nexus is here, but add pen input, mini hdmi, SD slot and people will pay $350 for it (even if pen is separate) and it will be in a different niche.
I think all Android tablets should probably be focused on 7 inch size and $300 price tag because the ipad is an unstoppable force and starts at $400. Apple supposedly is making ipad minis but I'll believe it when I see it. Steve Jobs openly ripped on the 7 inch size calling it a "tweener" size that's too small to be useful for a tablet and too large for a phone. So in other words 7 inch tabs offer something apple doesn't provide. Asus has had moderate success at competing against the ipad in the 10 inch category but I'm certain it's very little and hell a judge in Europe just threw out an injuction from apple against Samsung over the galaxy Tab 10.1 stating no one would confuse the product's because they tab simply isn't as cool as an ipad. At this point in time the 10 inch tablet market is lost to apple.
However starting with supercharged pseudo e reader tablets such as the Nook Color and Kindle Fire, the 7 inch wallet friendly android tablet has taken off like a rocket. Pre sales for the Nexus 7 are going fast and the hype machine is unstoppable. HTC should totally get in on this and ignore the 10 inch tablet market.
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Droff said:
I agree, stupid move for HTC, if it will be 10".
In 10" segment they will compete with Transformer and Transformer Prime with the same or better specs. If they add pen input, they will compete with Lenovo Tablet (dual core), which already fallen in price and will go down even more. And all compete with iPad and upcoming Microsoft Surface.
7" is a lot more forgiving market for HTC. Sure, Nexus is here, but add pen input, mini hdmi, SD slot and people will pay $350 for it (even if pen is separate) and it will be in a different niche.
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I'm with you guys. Give me an HTC 7 inch jelly bean tablet with pen and sd and ill pay a 100 more than a nexus for it
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Too little too late for HTC. They don;t have a niche to go for with Samsung going after the stylus tabs and Google leading the fold in 7 inch pricing and the Ipad mini coming in Oct. HTC is look like RIM these days. And HTC is never going to approach the $250 range for a tablet because there is no profit in it at that price and no Google subsidy to offset the cost like the Asus Nexus 7.
Actually, manufacturing tablets is not as profitable as manufacturing phones for any company. 4.1-4.5 inches Phones like HTC one x, galaxy s2 and s3 etc. are selling for about 600$. While 7 inches HTC flyer with phone functionality and 7 inches Samsung galaxy tab 2 etc are selling for $350-400. Even 10 inches apple ipad sells for much less than much smaller iPhone. ( I know some money goes in certification, but still a lot of profit in phones)
Phones are there cash cows and tablets are just to be present there in that segment.
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thewadegeek said:
Huh the page I read said it was running ICS...how is that "outdated"?
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I don't know if you have heard of an OS called Jelly Bean? It is Android's latest OS. It's it's updated from last year's ICS OS. Maybe I'm confused, but logic dictates that an OS released after a previous OS would make the previous OS outdated.
The same way HTC shipped the Flyer with GB when tablets were already running Honeycomb.
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