As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
Acer a100.
Battery life is not as good, but it's a solid tablet for the same money
Maybe the Archos 70B Internet Tablet might interest you. I just saw an article saying it should be coming out soon. I'd post a link but my NT won't let me copy & paste. I will be seriously considering returning my NT before January 31 if things still look as they do now.
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Archos 70b to come out in a few weeks. Good preliminary reviews. Google it.
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options are out there
Yeah, I've looked at the Acer & the Lenovo ideapad a1. The archos is one that I hadn't checked out, though. Man, those first few weeks with my NT before 1.4.1 really spoiled me. I feel like my NT is broken now, and I really like the device.
Acer Iconia A100 4 hours of battery like 70 bucks more
Samsung Galaxy 10 hours 16 gb 150 bucks more
Archos 70B http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/20/archos-launches-70b-honeycomb-tablet-expected-to-ship-next-mont/ has 512 ram and a pro: HDMI for $199
I'm looking at refurbished HTC Evo View's in the area of $250-$280 when they pop up.
Also, Galaxy Tab 7 Plus that can be had for $370 brand new.
Then I missed this GREAT deal today because I was working and not at my computer... Toshiba Thrive 32gb (refurb) for.... $299 arghhhh
http://1saleaday.com/?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1SaleADay&utm_content=1SALE+12-3-11
Uncular1 said:
As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
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I'm thinking about to replace the Tablet with a Color. It's cheaper, $199 new and 149 pre-owned. Both are with 1 year warranty. Since the Color can be dual-booted, so I don't have to root it.
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I'm looking at refurbished HTC Evo View's in the area of $250-$280 when they pop up.
Also, Galaxy Tab 7 Plus that can be had for $370 brand new.
Then I missed this GREAT deal today because I was working and not at my computer... Toshiba Thrive 32gb (refurb) for.... $299 arghhhh
http://1saleaday.com/?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1SaleADay&utm_content=1SALE+12-3-11
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wow thanks for share that link have you buy from there before? i'll definitely keep an eye on it, thanks.
Htc Evo View/flyer is awful. Really slow once you start loading things onto it. Look at the new Archos tablet or perhaps an a100. Galaxy tabs are nice, but no expandable memory.
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Htc Evo View/flyer is awful. Really slow once you start loading things onto it. Look at the new Archos tablet or perhaps an a100. Galaxy tabs are nice, but no expandable memory.
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Couldn't disagree with you anymore. EVO View 4G is a kick as tab. Just got hc also.
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Htc Evo View/flyer is awful. Really slow once you start loading things onto it. Look at the new Archos tablet or perhaps an a100. Galaxy tabs are nice, but no expandable memory.
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Galaxy Tab 7 Plus does have SD card slot.
Uncular1 said:
As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
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I was in the same boat as you. I had never rooted a device, and I was worried about what rooting entailed in relation to my warranty.
However, I decided to take the plunge anyway. I rooted my NT three days ago, following Indirect's method, and I can say that I am VERY happy with my decision.
Here are some reasons for my joy:
--->I can still access the B&N store, content, and in-store reading abilities (I just tested this tonight).
--->I can load whatever I want onto my device because I have access to root privileges and numerous app stores (Android Market, Amazon, B&N (although who would ever use this horrid marketplace)
--->I have a Swype keyboard on my tablet! (I use this on my phone and I absolutely love it on my NT)
What about the warranty you ask? With the availability of easy unrooting procedures and no instances of bricking a NT, I have confidence that I can always unroot my device if I find the need to use my warranty. Although, the only bad situation that I can imagine is if I somehow damage the device to the point where I cannot boot it up to undo the root (like if I dropped it in a lake or bathtub). Despite those worst case scenarios, I am totally willing to take the risk.
Someone has mentioned elsewhere that the NT is cheaper than other comparable tablets because B&N is counting on controlling the content and user experience to make a profit. By getting around their control by rooting, we (the consumer) are able to have a high quality tablet and the freedom that B&N was counting on restricting for their benefit.
Having said all of this, if you are unable/unwilling/too concerned to root your NT, then return the bad boy.
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Couldn't disagree with you anymore. EVO View 4G is a kick as tab. Just got hc also.
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I 100% agree that the HTC Flyer/View is an amazing tablet. I owned the nook tablet for about 2 weeks until the update came out. Once I realized that B&N is going to continue to actively try and stop hacking I decided it wasn't worth the uphill battle for the life of the NT. I found a brand new Best Buy HTC Flyer on Craigslist for $280, about the same price as the NT after tax.
The HTC Flyer IMO is much snappier than the NT and I like the look and feel of it better than NT. I didn't think I would like the HTC Flyer from reviews, pics, and videos, but in person it is awesome. I really do think it is faster than the NT in general purposes. Battery life and screen are equivalent to NT. Basically, the NT is a little lighter and a little thinner but I think the build quality is better on the Flyer. The dual-core 1.0 GHz vs single-core 1.5 GHz is really a toss up, especially since the NT isn't running HC or ICS yet. HTC just released an official HC update. Also it has a fully active digitizer stylus that destroys the capacitive pens on any other tablet.
Alas, if the NT had the same hacking abilities as the NC, I would have kept it. I really like the NT and I am hoping this community outsmarts B&N. So with that, the HTC Flyer is a solid alternative if you want something similar with full android and no need for rooting.
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As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
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Just out of curiosity, what did 1.4.1 change that was bad enough to make you want to return it? I have no idea because I rooted mine right after the first boot and removed all the B&N stuff so that it's just a regular android tablet.
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Galaxy Tab 7 Plus does have SD card slot.
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Youre right. I forgot about the 7 inch plus. My store only carries the 8.9 and 10.1. XD
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Just out of curiosity, what did 1.4.1 change that was bad enough to make you want to return it? I have no idea because I rooted mine right after the first boot and removed all the B&N stuff so that it's just a regular android tablet.
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Breaks root, loses ability to sideload apps.
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Breaks root, loses ability to sideload apps.
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Then go back to 1.4.0 and block updates.
I would just like to comment on Archos. I do not own a recent Archos device, but had one of their older media players. The firmware was garbage, the hardware sucked, and the support was non-existent. I bought it on sale from a different retailer, so unfortunately I was unable to return the device. It did have the factory warranty, however. I sent it back to get it fixed three times when the internal hard drive failed. Each time it took a month to get it back, and it broke again within four weeks. The fourth time it died, I gave up and threw the thing away. Horrible waste of money. I will never buy another Archos product again.
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I would just like to comment on Archos. I do not own a recent Archos device, but had one of their older media players. The firmware was garbage, the hardware sucked, and the support was non-existent. I bought it on sale from a different retailer, so unfortunately I was unable to return the device. It did have the factory warranty, however. I sent it back to get it fixed three times when the internal hard drive failed. Each time it took a month to get it back, and it broke again within four weeks. The fourth time it died, I gave up and threw the thing away. Horrible waste of money. I will never buy another Archos product again.
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That's a shame. I bought an Archos 20gb Jukebox Recorder back in 2002. I replaced the firmware with Rockbox opensource firmware, upgraded the batteries over time, and eventually put a larger HDD in it. It still runs and I use it as an external harddrive. I'd still be using it as my music player except I replaced it with a video iPod with Rockbox software a little while back.
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Is $250 (CAD) a good deal for this tablet?
I have a Moto Atrix as my smartphone, rooted.
I am interested in tablet for watching videos at home and reading pdfs and ebooks and suchm, as well as playing games.
I believe it is already running g-tab-comb but I would want to update it with something more recent.
I have the opporunity to get this or a dell streak 7 (sealed) for $250.
Is there still good dev support for this tablet? How does the future of it look
i had the gtablet, but sold it. Now with the Android market not showing the G tab on the website, I am sure glad that I sold the G tablet. Get the tablet that has paid the license to Google and has the real market (imho), in otherwords not the Gtablet.
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Does that mean I wouldn't be able to access any apps from the market?
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Does that mean I wouldn't be able to access any apps from the market?
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Maybe....for now. But it appears the GTab is being fazed out of Google Market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327249
The handwriting seems to be on the wall for the GTab.....sadly
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Does that mean I wouldn't be able to access any apps from the market?
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You'd still be able to access the market via the app on the Gtablet itself. you just wouldn't be able to remotely install apps onto your tablet via the market website on a computer.
I use a GTablet (with FlashBack 10.0) I access the Market several times a day. I am able to download new apps, update older apps. No-- my device is not listed, but nevertheless I am able to use the Market.
I had been using an older version of the Market App, and with that I could not get new apps. I could update older apps just fine, but it would NOT download a new app: NO DEVICE. With the new Market App, I have no problems.
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I use a GTablet (with FlashBack 10.0) I access the Market several times a day. I am able to download new apps, update older apps. No-- my device is not listed, but nevertheless I am able to use the Market.
I had been using an older version of the Market App, and with that I could not get new apps. I could update older apps just fine, but it would NOT download a new app: NO DEVICE. With the new Market App, I have no problems.
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What version of the Market? Are you able to download to your Gtab from market.android.com ? If so, can u post the apk. The guy who I sold my Gtab to, would like that.
Thanks
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Is $250 (CAD) a good deal for this tablet?
I have a Moto Atrix as my smartphone, rooted.
I am interested in tablet for watching videos at home and reading pdfs and ebooks and suchm, as well as playing games.
I believe it is already running g-tab-comb but I would want to update it with something more recent.
I have the opporunity to get this or a dell streak 7 (sealed) for $250.
Is there still good dev support for this tablet? How does the future of it look
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I sold mine a while back also. I would put that $250.00 towards something that might have a chance at some ICS love.
The Gtab's screen is great for video, but an IPS screen on a higher end tablet is a must for extended ebook reading. Also the market issue is very minor in my opinion.
I picked mine up less than a week ago, put FB 10.0 on it and I am already selling it and moving to a Transformer or Iconia. The display has really bad viewing angles, other than that it isn't too shabby.
Thrive
Groupon has the Toshiba Thrive for 299 today. A better tablet all around
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Groupon has the Toshiba Thrive for $299 today. A better tablet all around
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I saw that today as well. (well my wife did). Still only $100 off a 16GB version, I told her not that great of a deal.
To the OP, my advise is not spend one dime with Viewsonic. They abandoned this product 3 months after it's release. Viewsonic has been nothing short of horrible regarding the GTab and it's customers that spent the $300-$400 last winter. I have a perfect one for $200 if you really want one, $225 with dock. It is rooted and running TNT lite 4.4.
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I saw that today as well. (well my wife did). Still only $100 off a 16GB version, I told her not that great of a deal.
To the OP, my advise is not spend one dime with Viewsonic. They abandoned this product 3 months after it's release. Viewsonic has been nothing short of horrible regarding the GTab and it's customers that spent the $300-$400 last winter. I have a perfect one for $200 if you really want one, $225 with dock. It is rooted and running TNT lite 4.4.
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I'm sure the shipping would be a lot of $ to Canada?
I can also get a 32gb Touchpad.. with Android. How about that
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I'm sure the shipping would be a lot of $ to Canada?
I can also get a 32gb Touchpad.. with Android. How about that
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HP Touchpad with Android? I didn't know that could be done. I know they were selling for $99 when they went belly-up. I would say go for it. Shipping would only be about $25 if you really want the GTab. I am also selling my Asus TF101 32GB getting ready for the TF201 32GB but that will be twice as much with keyboard dock.
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HP Touchpad with Android? I didn't know that could be done. I know they were selling for $99 when they went belly-up. I would say go for it. Shipping would only be about $25 if you really want the GTab. I am also selling my Asus TF101 32GB getting ready for the TF201 32GB but that will be twice as much with keyboard dock.
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Yup Cyanogen got CM7 running on it
Decisions, decisions..
Don't take it. Bunch of people complaints about HP touchpad with android on it.I pay my viewsonic $250 (4 days ago) and my friend pay $150 for his HP touchpad - I still like my deal and product more (didn't like stock tom). I can access market using Vegan rom and I can even backup apps on my phone and transfer them to g-tab.
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I'm sure the shipping would be a lot of $ to Canada?
I can also get a 32gb Touchpad.. with Android. How about that
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I all you want is a decent 10" tablet running Gingerbread or Honeycomb at a low cost then gtab is one to consider. If you want ICS then you will have to get the lastest tablet (not yet available) with a killer cpu and lots of ram.
So your choices are
1. Low price 10" or 7" (nook color II or Amazon Fire)
2. Medium price 10" like a Acer Iconia, Toshiba or Asus Transformer
3. High price 10" currently being developed for the ICS (New tranformer quadcore etc)
Good luck and have fun.
Woot.com has the Motorola Xoom 32Gig Wifi for $329 today....
And Motorola has stated that the Xoom will get ICS early 2012.
Advantages over Gtablet..
32gig vs. 16gig storage
1280x800 vs. 1024x600 resolution
1 gig vs. 512 meg ram
GPS, Barometer, front and rear cameras
Better viewing angles
Official Google support/Motorola support
Android OS 3.2.1 with stated upgrade to Android OS 4.0
FYI...I have two Gtablets and an Xoom. I'd take the Xoom every day over the Gtablet.
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HP Touchpad with Android? I didn't know that could be done. I know they were selling for $99 when they went belly-up. I would say go for it. Shipping would only be about $25 if you really want the GTab. I am also selling my Asus TF101 32GB getting ready for the TF201 32GB but that will be twice as much with keyboard dock.
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I bought a Gtab from a seller in the US. shipping was about $23 BUT beware as the buyer in Canada will get hit with an extra $70 in duty fees for "importing" the tablet.
Hi,
I know the new device is still very new. Although, I'm disappointed with lack of rooting now, I'm still in favor of this over Kindle Fire for a tablet in this price range. Another disappointment is no doubt the internal storage lock, forcing users to sideload only 1GB without additional SD card. Here's a few questions for those of you that have the device and been playing with it.
1) has anyone sideload VTC's stream app? I like to be able to stream video and music to tablet
2) where is this rumor PagePerfect [improved stock] pdf reader? I was at the store briefly on Thur and I can't find this app installed??? is this a vaporware BN hasn't push out? I prefer reading pdf over epub, i can't stand reflowable text that kills design.
3) anyone think we can hope NT can run latest Android v4, if rooted [a big if right now]?
Wait for NookTab to get root then buy. Nook Color took a while before magic happen. NookTab just came out today. Give it a couple weeks top. There are plenty of smart people here.
succulent said:
Wait for NookTab to get root then buy. Nook Color took a while before magic happen. NookTab just came out today. Give it a couple weeks top. There are plenty of smart people here.
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I second this. As is it's a great tablet, but wait a few weeks for root. I think it'll happen before that though. No evidence to back this up. Just opinion.
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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I was planing to return my NT too. I just ordered the tab 7 plus but my daughter thinks she will keep the Nook. I suggested that she look at the old tab 7 as it is a full hardware featured and rooted tab for under 300.
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I am literally sitting at my computer, trying to decide whether to take back my NT and maybe get a Tab 7, or even hold on to my DS7 until a good AND affordable 7" tablet comes out. But the NT is sitting on the table, looking at me, tempting me to open it.
Here's what I'm thinking...
1. The Tab 7 is still too expensive at this point. I've seen some online for around $300 but most are still in the $400 range. Yes, I could get it cheaper by getting it from one of the phone carriers but I don't like being locked into a 2 yr. plan, especially the way tech is changing so fast. Since I don't use stuff like cameras and GPS on my current DS7, I'm not sure the $150 difference is worth it.
2. I'm thinking about just staying with my current DS7 but there is no comparison between screens and battery life with the NT, which I found out are major considerations when it comes to tablets. The NT is (somewhat) lacking in apps compared to my full-blown DS7 tablet, but it's all about the important hardware, in my case, screen and battery life.
3. I've been playing with my wife's NT this weekend and once I found I was able to sideload apks from various Android sites, I've got hers pretty much set up the way she likes. One of the biggest problems with the NT is the lack of B&N apps. With Go Launcher and downloading apps from Onlyandroid.com, which has pretty much everything I've previously downloaded from Android Market, it's as useful as the DS7. All this and it's only been out a few days so you can only imagine what the techies are going to be able to do with the NT in a few months.
I took the bait and bought a NT earlier. I started to sideload some apps and to my surprise, I'm liking it. The only annoyance is the default interface, and once this is rooted [keeping fingers crossed], the sky is the limit I think.
IMHO, the hardware upgrade from NC makes NT much more usable.
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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It's $150 more and at a point where quad core, higher res 7-8" tabs are just around the corner. If I'm going to spend $400, I'd rather wait 2 months for a killer one at the start of a new generation.
If the Nook Tablet gets root and a stable ICS ROM, then it's a warranted, no question impluse buy. With this HW, it'd run ICS perfectly and the lack of physical buttons would work perfectly.
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It's $150 more and at a point where quad core, higher res 7-8" tabs are just around the corner. If I'm going to spend $400, I'd rather wait 2 months for a killer one at the start of a new generation.
If the Nook Tablet gets root and a stable ICS ROM, then it's a warranted, no question impluse buy. With this HW, it'd run ICS perfectly and the lack of physical buttons would work perfectly.
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True quad cores are right around the corner, but I bet you it will be at least 6-8 months before a 7" quad-core is even ANNOUNCED, yet alone released. Most people buying the NT want a smaller device anyways, so if they really want a fully functional 7" the galaxy tab is probably the best out there, and will be for a while (at least until the 7.7)
FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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That's what I plan to do. Wonder why there is no Galaxy Tab 7+ forums yet here.
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FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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And another thing worth noting, because of the extended return policy, consider it a price guarantee too. If the Tab 7+ drops in price in the next 2 months, just go complain and I'm sure BB will give you the difference, or you could just return it and rebuy it.
I decided to keep iti
lanceot said:
I took the bait and bought a NT earlier. I started to sideload some apps and to my surprise, I'm liking it. The only annoyance is the default interface, and once this is rooted [keeping fingers crossed], the sky is the limit I think.
IMHO, the hardware upgrade from NC makes NT much more usable.
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I 100% agree. I tried the NC and didn't like it because it was too slow and the speaker was horrible. Like you, the more I'm using it, the more I'm liking it.
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True quad cores are right around the corner, but I bet you it will be at least 6-8 months before a 7" quad-core is even ANNOUNCED, yet alone released. Most people buying the NT want a smaller device anyways, so if they really want a fully functional 7" the galaxy tab is probably the best out there, and will be for a while (at least until the 7.7)
FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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Unfortunately quad cores only has marketing valie at the moment. most apps are still single threaded and taking advantage of multiple cores is not an easy programming task
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You didn't say what bothered you about the Kindle Fire, or that's what I'd suggest. If you spend more then you're getting into devices that were intended to be tablets in the first place, and the whole set of arguments changes.
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True quad cores are right around the corner, but I bet you it will be at least 6-8 months before a 7" quad-core is even ANNOUNCED, yet alone released. Most people buying the NT want a smaller device anyways, so if they really want a fully functional 7" the galaxy tab is probably the best out there, and will be for a while (at least until the 7.7)
FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tegra 3 7" tablet leaked or announced between now and CES.
BTW, tablets are ineligible for that holiday return policy.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tegra 3 7" tablet leaked or announced between now and CES.
BTW, tablets are ineligible for that holiday return policy.
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That's not what the sales person told me when I bought my tab
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BTW, tablets are ineligible for that holiday return policy.
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This is untrue.
For holiday 2010, BestBuy's Holiday Return Policy didn't cover computers and tablets.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/2008-Gi...ns/pcmcat166500050003.c?id=pcmcat166500050003
For holiday 2011, no exception is mentioned.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Misc/null/pcmcat257800050001.c?id=pcmcat257800050001
The main stipulation is that it has to be a "gift purchase," so probably would be wise to not mention you've been using it for 2 months and got tired of it.
Here is a good deal on a new HTC view for 229.99. No contract required.
http://1saleaday.com/
Nice to see that it's back at this price point for the people who missed out last month.
I purchased mine from this site when they offered it back in December. It arrived in less than a week and in brand new condition. I had no complaints whatsoever.
I placed an order this morning...Back in the box Kindle Fire, time to go back!
I'm thinking about picking it up. I have a Streak 7, which despite all the complaints, I don't think is that bad. The only thing holding me from buying this is going from a dual core down to a single core. Has anyone had both of these devices? How quick is the Evo? Thanks in advance.
I got one on the previous deal, thinking about getting another lol
I purchased one from this site again and I am purchasing a second one now so I can play with rooting and using other ROMs. The extra set of cables and charges are a benefit to me a well. I am sure I will be turning to you all at some point for what do do with the second system and how best to customize it. I hope that at some point ICS will be available too through customization.
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I purchased one from this site again and I am purchasing a second one now so I can play with rooting and using other ROMs. The extra set of cables and charges are a benefit to me a well. I am sure I will be turning to you all at some point for what do do with the second system and how best to customize it. I hope that at some point ICS will be available too through customization.
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Makes two of us.
Bought the second View yesterday - this time for myself
I just bought a Kindle Fire and put CM7 on it. So far I love it but this deal has me seriously considering selling the KF and picking up the Evo View.
What kind of differences will I notice in processing power, if any?
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I just bought a Kindle Fire and put CM7 on it. So far I love it but this deal has me seriously considering selling the KF and picking up the Evo View.
What kind of differences will I notice in processing power, if any?
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I am running CM7 on the Kindle Fire as well. I don't think it is that snappy at all. I am actually thinking the single core 1.5ghz processor will seem faster plus the 1gig of ram should help as well.
This device offers so much more then the KF at this price it cannot be passed up. With the addition of a front and back camera, bluetooth, 32 gigs of memory, official honeycomb update, that is enought to satisfy me. Plus nothing will seem as snappy as my Epic 4G touch anyway, even the KF with it's dual core isn't even in the same league as E4GT.
I'm wondering if I should pick one up or wait for the new Asus tablet, the 370T
I jumped on this deal this morning, as well. I look forward to putting my Nook Color on eBay or CraigsList in a week or two and joining you guys here in these forums. I just wish the deal had been through Amazon so I could have it on Monday - this week is going to kill me!
I'm no dev or anything, usually just a lurker with a couple posts here and there. But this place seems much more civil than a lot of the other XDA forums I've been in, so maybe that will change.
Now I'm off to shop for some accessories while I'm in limbo. Woohoo!
Screen?
Really considering this deal. I have a Nook Tablet and I really wish it had a front camera, working bluetooth, and to some extent, GPS. I do however really like the screen on the NT. How's the screen on the View? Can you move off center in all directions and it still looks great? Poor performance in the screen is the kind of fundamental niggle I just can't live with. How about responsiveness? Is the GUI relatively fluid?
wow I was wondering if that deal would ever come again. great tablet. I had a nook tablet before the view, but I just couldn't stand not having the real android market and I envied the stylus input. I'd say the screen is exceptionally responsive and fluid when compared to the nt. It really feels like a $500-$700 tablet slashed down to $230. its a steal. I almost want to buy a backup tablet in case anything happens to this one.
RangerLG said:
I'm wondering if I should pick one up or wait for the new Asus tablet, the 370T
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You could buy this now, use it until that one comes out, and still get $200-250 for the View on Craigslist.
Nick N said:
You could buy this now, use it until that one comes out, and still get $200-250 for the View on Craigslist.
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If it does everything I need, I will go with the View. How thick/heavy is it compared to Fire? I wasn't impressed with how heavy the Fire was.
t-r-i-c-k said:
Really considering this deal. I have a Nook Tablet and I really wish it had a front camera, working bluetooth, and to some extent, GPS. I do however really like the screen on the NT. How's the screen on the View? Can you move off center in all directions and it still looks great? Poor performance in the screen is the kind of fundamental niggle I just can't live with. How about responsiveness? Is the GUI relatively fluid?
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I had the NT, even rooted it with your MAC script. I liked it a lot but could not live with the fussing around regarding the OTA update. B&N's stance on hacking their device has really soured my taste toward them so I returned it. I picked up a WiFi Flyer and haven't looked back. The screen is basically the same as the NT, just as good, if not better viewing angles. However, the NT has slightly less glare. The responsiveness is at least as good as the NT if not better. I even like the overall feel of the Flyer over the NT. It isn't as thin, but it feels stronger and better made. Anyways, I can pretty much guarantee you won't miss the NT at all.
What are the chances this thing will get ICS? Rather official, or CM9 support?
The price for this tablet is great, but if this tablet won't have ICS I'm going to wait awhile for the new tablets to come out.
View eats all other 7-8" tablets for breakfast.
Been there, done this.
Ordered my second View.
Returned my Vizio 8" to the store.
Life is good
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I am running CM7 on the Kindle Fire as well. I don't think it is that snappy at all. I am actually thinking the single core 1.5ghz processor will seem faster plus the 1gig of ram should help as well.
This device offers so much more then the KF at this price it cannot be passed up. With the addition of a front and back camera, bluetooth, 32 gigs of memory, official honeycomb update, that is enought to satisfy me. Plus nothing will seem as snappy as my Epic 4G touch anyway, even the KF with it's dual core isn't even in the same league as E4GT.
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I concur. I have Both the KF & HTC EVO View 4g and the View is Much, Much faster and snappier than the KF. I LOVE it since HC was put on and the Stylus works soooooo much better since HC. I use the View all the time AND I have a Xoom WiFi WITH ICS and still use the View more because I can Write to the SD Card whenever I want. Whereas my Xoom is a GED Device and even thou it has ICS there still is NO Write ability to the SD Card Internally, which to me gimps the device. I put a PNY 32GB Class 10 in my View for Extra Storage and have a Otterbox Defender on it. Awesome Device.
DON'T get caught up in the Dual Core vs Single Core issue with this device. HTC Optimized the View Magnificently with Sense and HC that it's really FAST and Buttery Smooth.
I just ordered mine. I was sorta reluctant, because I am not a fan of Sense. I currently have an Acer Iconia A100 that I got from Best Buy for $180. I will give the View 4G a shot (fingers crossed that CM will hit this thing). I just know that one tablet will be on the Craigslist soon. Also, I read this review after making the purchase:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-evo-view-4g-review/
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Guys there a deal for today at ebay.com for Nook Tablet from B&N that gives it for only 199$
yep.. couldnt refuse at that price point.. they got rid of the coupon.. so just $199 outright.. so saves on taxes if your state requires collecting it.. debated.. but i just cant say no to a deal like that.. loved the original NC.. was a solid piece of kit.. so i know i'll love the tablet..
I would get it as well but I live outside USA so.... :/
I jumped on this too. I've been following various websites for a better price and this is by far the best I've found (without having to do any pricematch/coupon shenanegans).
And the offer runs to Feb 23, apparently. Hope this establishes the new price point !
B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it.
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Thanks, talked me out of it in the nick of time!
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B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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damnnn uhh now I don't want the nook tablet anymore
edit: there doesn't seem to be much development for Asus tabs?? ? why is there no cm9 alpha or anything I know these usually have honeycomb stock...
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Well I for one am still very happy with mine. The wifi bug isn't that bad, and I have confidence the devs will get it under control. I have no problem accessing ask the space I need, and the battery life is incredible.
Having great dev support is not something to take lightly. The guys working on the NT are doing a great job. My Samsung Fascinate didn't have a usable CM7 until it had been out for almost a year. I wouldn't put it past them to get better multi-touch support for this device as well.
All in all, it's a great device, and the great dev support makes it even better.
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B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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I thought the Kindle Fire only recognized 2 points on the touch screen as well. At least thats what many review for the game Nova (kindle fire edition) on the Amazon app store say. http://www.amazon.com/Near-Orbit-Va...1?s=mobile-apps&ie=UTF8&qid=1329581136&sr=1-1
Hi couple of questions before i decide to take the plunge
1)Have the devs found out how to use the 12GB space that BN owns
2)How easy is this to root?
thanks!
I ordered it two days ago, can't wait to get it in the mail now.
The B&N - not a good deal at $250?
Oh, come on. There's always something "new" in the horizon - better, faster and cheaper (ie, the Quad Core Asus). And if you wait long enough for the Asus, something *even* better will be "just around the corner".
The B&N is, for me, an*incredible* deal. I own a Galaxy SII, a Motorola Atrix (heavily modded) and I got an iPad 2 at the office. I can't believe how much I got when I bought my Nook for $250. I'd definitely do it again. It's *not* only a good eReader - it's a tremendous game machine (I haven't yet found a single game with any sort of lag), a great browser, a perfect multimedia device... the list goes on and on. IMHO, I'd rather have the Nook than my iPad, it's far, far more useful right now (rooted, with GoLaunch EX and minor tweaks). CM7 will only make things better.
Its problems are trivial. No true multitouch? Why would it be a dealbreaker? Wi-Fi bug? I've seen it every once in a while - my HP laptop is far, far worse. What else is there? Nothing. Again, to me, it delivers far more than I ever expected out of it.
I've seen cheaper tablets around - some chinese junk running at 1.5 GHz (LOL). They look cheap and have no warranties whatsoever. For me, the NT and the KF are what tablets are all about, and I'd rather own either one of them than wait for something that may or may not come out soon (the Asus Quad Core).
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The B&N - not a good deal at $250?
Oh, come on. There's always something "new" in the horizon - better, faster and cheaper (ie, the Quad Core Asus). And if you wait long enough for the Asus, something *even* better will be "just around the corner".
The B&N is, for me, an*incredible* deal. I own a Galaxy SII, a Motorola Atrix (heavily modded) and I got an iPad 2 at the office. I can't believe how much I got when I bought my Nook for $250. I'd definitely do it again. It's *not* only a good eReader - it's a tremendous game machine (I haven't yet found a single game with any sort of lag), a great browser, a perfect multimedia device... the list goes on and on. IMHO, I'd rather have the Nook than my iPad, it's far, far more useful right now (rooted, with GoLaunch EX and minor tweaks). CM7 will only make things better.
Its problems are trivial. No true multitouch? Why would it be a dealbreaker? Wi-Fi bug? I've seen it every once in a while - my HP laptop is far, far worse. What else is there? Nothing. Again, to me, it delivers far more than I ever expected out of it.
I've seen cheaper tablets around - some chinese junk running at 1.5 GHz (LOL). They look cheap and have no warranties whatsoever. For me, the NT and the KF are what tablets are all about, and I'd rather own either one of them than wait for something that may or may not come out soon (the Asus Quad Core).
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Well said i think exactly as you do and not because the a new tablet with more specifications with same or better price is round the corner means the quality will be good and the development for it will be fast, so far with the nook tablet devs have done an amazing job far before than what i ever expected. There is always people that do not appreciate the work that is being done and on top of that they ask for more, unfortunately XDA has got many of those, its a shame.
I think the nook tablet is an investment and i feel very happy with it, i will for sure enjoy it for a while and once another good deal like the NT comes out with decent hardware (not Chinese junk as @fjhuerta say) and green lights for development maybe then i would think in upgrade.
~ Veronica
openallnight said:
Hi couple of questions before i decide to take the plunge
1)Have the devs found out how to use the 12GB space that BN owns
2)How easy is this to root?
thanks!
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1) yes
2) very easy...check put the development forum and you'll see the one click root. In a few days CM7 will be released in greater fashion than previously. In a month or so the nook tablet and its downfalls will be completely absent. The devs have been incredible with this device and it's only getting better and better. I purchased mine on release day and my love for it grows by the day. I've owned the kindle fire as well...but I did return it because it lacked the ram power of the nook tablet, and I could certainly tell(yes I was rooted on it as well).
Trust your gut. In the long run, I think if you choose the nook tablet, you'll be extremely happy.
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Got my tablet for $150 on craigslist WITH a 16gb SD card and a case included! *steal*
Bought my girl the NC off eBay for $150. Not bad I guess.
NT rooted with CM7
NC rooted with ICS CM9
I think I like the NC better now lol. Will the NT ever see ICS?
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Got my tablet for $150 on craigslist WITH a 16gb SD card and a case included! *steal*
Bought my girl the NC off eBay for $150. Not bad I guess.
NT rooted with CM7
NC rooted with ICS CM9
I think I like the NC better now lol. Will the NT ever see ICS?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440438
Got mine too
though as ever as soon as I buy something they announce the next version
I wonder if this deal involves the new model of NT with only 8G of internal memory (instead of 16G)? This model can also be purchased from the BN website:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-tablet-barnes-noble/1104687969?ean=9781400501779
take note of the 512mb ram as well so not only is the 8 gig model less storage space...but also down to 512mb system ram. I was hoping they'd keep the 1 gig ram but just lower the 'hdd' shame not :/
My Prime is being repaired.It's been in for repair almost a month. (It'll be one month on the 28th) I dunno how much longer it's going to be. I understand that these things sometimes take time. Hurry work is worry work, as they say.
I'm thinking that perhaps I should just buy another tablet while I wait. Any recommendations? What would be a nice compliment to the Prime?
Right now A510 Iconia from Acer, 300 from Asus or that other tablet that everyone knows about I would say
Xoom is on 4.0.4 now could find one of those or Kindle Fire cheap on craigslist if you are into hackery
If you like to tinker, consider a Nook Color. They are easily rooted and there are many fun roms for it turning it into a full android tablet - both HC and ICS. It's a great secondary tab but doesn't really repeat the place of the Prime (in spec or price). When I ordered the Prime I passed mine onto my 8 yr old. They've come down in price quite a bit -- most of ours have been refurbished and work great.
Here you go: B&N For $135
Don't bother with an Acer. They are heavy, thick, development and company support are slow. I owned an A500, bought it on release day last year. It STILL doesn't have ICS.
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I'll probably get flamed for this but I think a good compliment to the Prime would be an iPad2. I don't think I'd pony up for the newer one, but you might find a good deal on a barely used iPad2.
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I'll probably get flamed for this but I think a good compliment to the Prime would be an iPad2. I don't think I'd pony up for the newer one, but you might find a good deal on a barely used iPad2.
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I want to stick with Android. However the only strength the iPad has over an Android device is being able to take it to an Apple store and have it swapped out if they determine it cannot be repaired. I've heard this from Apple users.
Wish I had that option with the Prime. I'd consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus but it has not HDMI output.
I miss not having my Prime. Driving me crazy!
Nook color for $135.00? sounds like it would be worth buying and rooting knowing 'l have my Prime back.
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I want to stick with Android. However the only strength the iPad has over an Android device is being able to take it to an Apple store and have it swapped out if they determine it cannot be repaired. I've heard this from Apple users.
Wish I had that option with the Prime. I'd consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus but it has not HDMI output.
I miss not having my Prime. Driving me crazy!
Nook color for $135.00? sounds like it would be worth buying and rooting knowing 'l have my Prime back.
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I think you'll like the nook... I used it last night to update stuff for my kid and still enjoyed using it even though I'd just set down my prime.
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georgetoon said:
My Prime is being repaired.It's been in for repair almost a month. (It'll be one month on the 28th) I dunno how much longer it's going to be. I understand that these things sometimes take time. Hurry work is worry work, as they say.
I'm thinking that perhaps I should just buy another tablet while I wait. Any recommendations? What would be a nice compliment to the Prime?
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I wish they would hurry up and fix it. They gonna wait until you order something to hold you over then send it back. Tee hee
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I wish they would hurry up and fix it. They gonna wait until you order something to hold you over then send it back. Tee hee
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I checked today and I should have it next week sometime. I hope.
Still thinking about that Nook color and doing a root. I would not want to run as a B&N Nook. I'd want full Android for sure. Plus, I'm a Kindle user. So, I'd prefer the Kindle reading app.
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I checked today and I should have it next week sometime. I hope.
Still thinking about that Nook color and doing a root. I would not want to run as a B&N Nook. I'd want full Android for sure. Plus, I'm a Kindle user. So, I'd prefer the Kindle reading app.
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Totally possible. The kindle app works, the nook app works... I prefer to import them all into calibre and then use Aldiko to read all my books. Nook Color has a lot of flexibility. The cool thing is that it boots from the sdcard by default so you really can't brick it... if you mess it up, you just make a good sd image and boot into it. We actually have 3 of them in the house (shhhh)
Another option, just saw this was released:
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I checked today and I should have it next week sometime. I hope.
Still thinking about that Nook color and doing a root. I would not want to run as a B&N Nook. I'd want full Android for sure. Plus, I'm a Kindle user. So, I'd prefer the Kindle reading app.
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Something to play with without having to risk your Prime for sure.
Hmmm...great suggestions up here. If I do get the extra $$$$, Nook color and then rooting it would be fun! I've looked on youtube for directions. is there anything definitive up here on XDA on how to do this?
Okay, I found this:
http://n2acards.com/how-it-works
So, for $135.00 plus another $35.00, I'd have an Android device AND a Nook.
What's the performance like? Anyone know?
CM7 on a color nook
Mark: Go for a refurbed unit. you can pick em up on a ebay or overstock.com. B&N unloads the refurbs in both places. Or look for a used one on CraigsList. Don't spend more than $130 to $150. And $150 sounds high to me.
Just my opinion but I think you are just throwing away $35 for that card. If you have a medium speed microsd card laying around the house you can do it yourself. In my experience, and I have done about 15 to 20 cards for friends, your best bet is a 16 or 32 GB medium speed card from a reputable company. Hard to go wrong with Sandisk. I have had horrible experiences with Class 10 cards. They just never worked; lots and lots of crashes and forced closures. Huge improvement by using Class 4 cards. Cheaper and they work so much better.
If you Google instructions for turning you Nook into an android tablet and you will come up with a ton of (easy) instructions. Great instructions here on XDA just do a search.
If by any chance you are a Mac user send me a private message. I will send you a link to my Box for the whole kit and kaboodle for free. You can download the instructions and the required files. You can make the card and turn the Nook into a great little 7" android tablet in about 20 minutes. With a bathroom break.
I gave my Nook to my daughter when I got a 7" Galaxy. In some ways I like the Nook better than the Galaxy.
Performance is ok. With the hack I have you can kick the processor speed up a bit. It's fine for simple stuff. I even enjoyed watching movies on it. I used Handbrake to convert ripped videos into a format that worked fine on the Nook. It's a 7" screen. So it's never gonna resemble your 55" 240HZ LED but its fine to watch on a plane. I think its pretty amazing for the cost. You can access apps from the Market (damn I mean Google Play). I used Pulse on mine and it worked fine. Not much of a gamer so I can't share anything.
The version of CM7 I have allows you to dual boot from the card. If the card is not in the Nook it will operate just like a stock B&N Nook. Put the card in and you will get boot screen on startup. Its fine for reading too.
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Mark: Go for a refurbed unit. you can pick em up on a ebay or overstock.com. B&N unloads the refurbs in both places. Or look for a used one on CraigsList. Don't spend more than $130 to $150. And $150 sounds high to me.
Just my opinion but I think you are just throwing away $35 for that card. If you have a medium speed microsd card laying around the house you can do it yourself. In my experience, and I have done about 15 to 20 cards for friends, your best bet is a 16 or 32 GB medium speed card from a reputable company. Hard to go wrong with Sandisk. I have had horrible experiences with Class 10 cards. They just never worked; lots and lots of crashes and forced closures. Huge improvement by using Class 4 cards. Cheaper and they work so much better.
If you Google instructions for turning you Nook into an android tablet and you will come up with a ton of (easy) instructions. Great instructions here on XDA just do a search.
If by any chance you are a Mac user send me a private message. I will send you a link to my Box for the whole kit and kaboodle for free. You can download the instructions and the required files. You can make the card and turn the Nook into a great little 7" android tablet in about 20 minutes. With a bathroom break.
I gave my Nook to my daughter when I got a 7" Galaxy. In some ways I like the Nook better than the Galaxy.
Performance is ok. With the hack I have you can kick the processor speed up a bit. It's fine for simple stuff. I even enjoyed watching movies on it. I used Handbrake to convert ripped videos into a format that worked fine on the Nook. It's a 7" screen. So it's never gonna resemble your 55" 240HZ LED but its fine to watch on a plane. I think its pretty amazing for the cost. You can access apps from the Market (damn I mean Google Play). I used Pulse on mine and it worked fine. Not much of a gamer so I can't share anything.
The version of CM7 I have allows you to dual boot from the card. If the card is not in the Nook it will operate just like a stock B&N Nook. Put the card in and you will get boot screen on startup. Its fine for reading too.
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Wow! Thank you so much for all this info.
Unfortunately, I'm not a Mac user. I'm a Linux guy. I've done my share of installs and disk wipes to get Linux on a system, so I'm familair with these processes. So, yeah, after you spelled it all out, $35.00 is a bit steep when I can do it myself.
Not sure if this would be of any interest but newegg has asus tf101 refurbished for 274.00.
georgetoon said:
Wow! Thank you so much for all this info.
Unfortunately, I'm not a Mac user. I'm a Linux guy. I've done my share of installs and disk wipes to get Linux on a system, so I'm familair with these processes. So, yeah, after you spelled it all out, $35.00 is a bit steep when I can do it myself.
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It's stupid simple. in the Mac I just used Terminal to enter the 'linux' instructions.
gotta be every bit as simple on a Linux box. And on-liine instructions will be super easy to find.
Again, I would recommend the original color nook - cheap, thin, light, almost pocketable - and different enuf from the Prime to make it a nice addition to your mobile needs.
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It's stupid simple. in the Mac I just used Terminal to enter the 'linux' instructions.
gotta be every bit as simple on a Linux box. And on-liine instructions will be super easy to find.
Again, I would recommend the original color nook - cheap, thin, light, almost pocketable - and different enuf from the Prime to make it a nice addition to your mobile needs.
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Okay. My Prime has been repaired and shipped. I should get it by Wednesday. As soon as it's back up and running, I just may do the Nook thing.
georgetoon said:
Okay. My Prime has been repaired and shipped. I should get it by Wednesday. As soon as it's back up and running, I just may do the Nook thing.
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Please let us know how the repair goes. They had mine for an equal amount of time and, well... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618047
Has anyone else sent in their Prime to Asus for repair that can comment on the turn-around time and the costs?