My Prime is being repaired.It's been in for repair almost a month. (It'll be one month on the 28th) I dunno how much longer it's going to be. I understand that these things sometimes take time. Hurry work is worry work, as they say.
I'm thinking that perhaps I should just buy another tablet while I wait. Any recommendations? What would be a nice compliment to the Prime?
Right now A510 Iconia from Acer, 300 from Asus or that other tablet that everyone knows about I would say
Xoom is on 4.0.4 now could find one of those or Kindle Fire cheap on craigslist if you are into hackery
If you like to tinker, consider a Nook Color. They are easily rooted and there are many fun roms for it turning it into a full android tablet - both HC and ICS. It's a great secondary tab but doesn't really repeat the place of the Prime (in spec or price). When I ordered the Prime I passed mine onto my 8 yr old. They've come down in price quite a bit -- most of ours have been refurbished and work great.
Here you go: B&N For $135
Don't bother with an Acer. They are heavy, thick, development and company support are slow. I owned an A500, bought it on release day last year. It STILL doesn't have ICS.
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I'll probably get flamed for this but I think a good compliment to the Prime would be an iPad2. I don't think I'd pony up for the newer one, but you might find a good deal on a barely used iPad2.
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I'll probably get flamed for this but I think a good compliment to the Prime would be an iPad2. I don't think I'd pony up for the newer one, but you might find a good deal on a barely used iPad2.
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I want to stick with Android. However the only strength the iPad has over an Android device is being able to take it to an Apple store and have it swapped out if they determine it cannot be repaired. I've heard this from Apple users.
Wish I had that option with the Prime. I'd consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus but it has not HDMI output.
I miss not having my Prime. Driving me crazy!
Nook color for $135.00? sounds like it would be worth buying and rooting knowing 'l have my Prime back.
georgetoon said:
I want to stick with Android. However the only strength the iPad has over an Android device is being able to take it to an Apple store and have it swapped out if they determine it cannot be repaired. I've heard this from Apple users.
Wish I had that option with the Prime. I'd consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus but it has not HDMI output.
I miss not having my Prime. Driving me crazy!
Nook color for $135.00? sounds like it would be worth buying and rooting knowing 'l have my Prime back.
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I think you'll like the nook... I used it last night to update stuff for my kid and still enjoyed using it even though I'd just set down my prime.
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georgetoon said:
My Prime is being repaired.It's been in for repair almost a month. (It'll be one month on the 28th) I dunno how much longer it's going to be. I understand that these things sometimes take time. Hurry work is worry work, as they say.
I'm thinking that perhaps I should just buy another tablet while I wait. Any recommendations? What would be a nice compliment to the Prime?
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I wish they would hurry up and fix it. They gonna wait until you order something to hold you over then send it back. Tee hee
texstar said:
I wish they would hurry up and fix it. They gonna wait until you order something to hold you over then send it back. Tee hee
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I checked today and I should have it next week sometime. I hope.
Still thinking about that Nook color and doing a root. I would not want to run as a B&N Nook. I'd want full Android for sure. Plus, I'm a Kindle user. So, I'd prefer the Kindle reading app.
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I checked today and I should have it next week sometime. I hope.
Still thinking about that Nook color and doing a root. I would not want to run as a B&N Nook. I'd want full Android for sure. Plus, I'm a Kindle user. So, I'd prefer the Kindle reading app.
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Totally possible. The kindle app works, the nook app works... I prefer to import them all into calibre and then use Aldiko to read all my books. Nook Color has a lot of flexibility. The cool thing is that it boots from the sdcard by default so you really can't brick it... if you mess it up, you just make a good sd image and boot into it. We actually have 3 of them in the house (shhhh)
Another option, just saw this was released:
georgetoon said:
I checked today and I should have it next week sometime. I hope.
Still thinking about that Nook color and doing a root. I would not want to run as a B&N Nook. I'd want full Android for sure. Plus, I'm a Kindle user. So, I'd prefer the Kindle reading app.
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Something to play with without having to risk your Prime for sure.
Hmmm...great suggestions up here. If I do get the extra $$$$, Nook color and then rooting it would be fun! I've looked on youtube for directions. is there anything definitive up here on XDA on how to do this?
Okay, I found this:
http://n2acards.com/how-it-works
So, for $135.00 plus another $35.00, I'd have an Android device AND a Nook.
What's the performance like? Anyone know?
CM7 on a color nook
Mark: Go for a refurbed unit. you can pick em up on a ebay or overstock.com. B&N unloads the refurbs in both places. Or look for a used one on CraigsList. Don't spend more than $130 to $150. And $150 sounds high to me.
Just my opinion but I think you are just throwing away $35 for that card. If you have a medium speed microsd card laying around the house you can do it yourself. In my experience, and I have done about 15 to 20 cards for friends, your best bet is a 16 or 32 GB medium speed card from a reputable company. Hard to go wrong with Sandisk. I have had horrible experiences with Class 10 cards. They just never worked; lots and lots of crashes and forced closures. Huge improvement by using Class 4 cards. Cheaper and they work so much better.
If you Google instructions for turning you Nook into an android tablet and you will come up with a ton of (easy) instructions. Great instructions here on XDA just do a search.
If by any chance you are a Mac user send me a private message. I will send you a link to my Box for the whole kit and kaboodle for free. You can download the instructions and the required files. You can make the card and turn the Nook into a great little 7" android tablet in about 20 minutes. With a bathroom break.
I gave my Nook to my daughter when I got a 7" Galaxy. In some ways I like the Nook better than the Galaxy.
Performance is ok. With the hack I have you can kick the processor speed up a bit. It's fine for simple stuff. I even enjoyed watching movies on it. I used Handbrake to convert ripped videos into a format that worked fine on the Nook. It's a 7" screen. So it's never gonna resemble your 55" 240HZ LED but its fine to watch on a plane. I think its pretty amazing for the cost. You can access apps from the Market (damn I mean Google Play). I used Pulse on mine and it worked fine. Not much of a gamer so I can't share anything.
The version of CM7 I have allows you to dual boot from the card. If the card is not in the Nook it will operate just like a stock B&N Nook. Put the card in and you will get boot screen on startup. Its fine for reading too.
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Mark: Go for a refurbed unit. you can pick em up on a ebay or overstock.com. B&N unloads the refurbs in both places. Or look for a used one on CraigsList. Don't spend more than $130 to $150. And $150 sounds high to me.
Just my opinion but I think you are just throwing away $35 for that card. If you have a medium speed microsd card laying around the house you can do it yourself. In my experience, and I have done about 15 to 20 cards for friends, your best bet is a 16 or 32 GB medium speed card from a reputable company. Hard to go wrong with Sandisk. I have had horrible experiences with Class 10 cards. They just never worked; lots and lots of crashes and forced closures. Huge improvement by using Class 4 cards. Cheaper and they work so much better.
If you Google instructions for turning you Nook into an android tablet and you will come up with a ton of (easy) instructions. Great instructions here on XDA just do a search.
If by any chance you are a Mac user send me a private message. I will send you a link to my Box for the whole kit and kaboodle for free. You can download the instructions and the required files. You can make the card and turn the Nook into a great little 7" android tablet in about 20 minutes. With a bathroom break.
I gave my Nook to my daughter when I got a 7" Galaxy. In some ways I like the Nook better than the Galaxy.
Performance is ok. With the hack I have you can kick the processor speed up a bit. It's fine for simple stuff. I even enjoyed watching movies on it. I used Handbrake to convert ripped videos into a format that worked fine on the Nook. It's a 7" screen. So it's never gonna resemble your 55" 240HZ LED but its fine to watch on a plane. I think its pretty amazing for the cost. You can access apps from the Market (damn I mean Google Play). I used Pulse on mine and it worked fine. Not much of a gamer so I can't share anything.
The version of CM7 I have allows you to dual boot from the card. If the card is not in the Nook it will operate just like a stock B&N Nook. Put the card in and you will get boot screen on startup. Its fine for reading too.
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Wow! Thank you so much for all this info.
Unfortunately, I'm not a Mac user. I'm a Linux guy. I've done my share of installs and disk wipes to get Linux on a system, so I'm familair with these processes. So, yeah, after you spelled it all out, $35.00 is a bit steep when I can do it myself.
Not sure if this would be of any interest but newegg has asus tf101 refurbished for 274.00.
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Wow! Thank you so much for all this info.
Unfortunately, I'm not a Mac user. I'm a Linux guy. I've done my share of installs and disk wipes to get Linux on a system, so I'm familair with these processes. So, yeah, after you spelled it all out, $35.00 is a bit steep when I can do it myself.
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It's stupid simple. in the Mac I just used Terminal to enter the 'linux' instructions.
gotta be every bit as simple on a Linux box. And on-liine instructions will be super easy to find.
Again, I would recommend the original color nook - cheap, thin, light, almost pocketable - and different enuf from the Prime to make it a nice addition to your mobile needs.
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It's stupid simple. in the Mac I just used Terminal to enter the 'linux' instructions.
gotta be every bit as simple on a Linux box. And on-liine instructions will be super easy to find.
Again, I would recommend the original color nook - cheap, thin, light, almost pocketable - and different enuf from the Prime to make it a nice addition to your mobile needs.
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Okay. My Prime has been repaired and shipped. I should get it by Wednesday. As soon as it's back up and running, I just may do the Nook thing.
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Okay. My Prime has been repaired and shipped. I should get it by Wednesday. As soon as it's back up and running, I just may do the Nook thing.
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Please let us know how the repair goes. They had mine for an equal amount of time and, well... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618047
Has anyone else sent in their Prime to Asus for repair that can comment on the turn-around time and the costs?
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is this device worth <200$? opinions on your device please, and also thoughts on before/after android porting!
i have the option of getting a 16 or a 32 for <200$ and am wondering if this is a piece of junk or worth getting.
or if i should just get something like a kindle fire.
uses: entertainment, ereading, videos, games, actually wtf do people use touchpads for????
ICS source is out so HE** the F*** YES it's worth it!
it was worth it b4, now I'm going to be busy.
lol
I use my touchpad for everything I need to do. The webos side has good apps for work and the cm7 side gives me netflix, games, video, photos, skype, ect... the TP is a very usefull tablet. If you get one for 200 and find you don't like it, PM me and we might be able to work something out, especially if you get the 32GB unit.
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I just put CM7 Alpha 2.1 on it this weekend and it is amazing how well an Alpha is running on this thing. If you can get a 32 gig for less than $200 you aren't that far off from the fire sale price.
I have a Nook Color with CM7 as well. I think both size devices have their merits so it depends what you want to use them for.
seems like everyone loves it with the new ports!
can someone comment on how the TP improved from the original OS to the android?
more interested in the before/after thing. im figuring that if you do not mod it at all, it is truly a POS.
I actually like WebOS.
I'm in WebOS most of the time.
that might change once ICS comes over.
webOS, you will use most of the time because it's nice to be in and it's the most useful. You can get to where you need to be quick. Skype call? No problem. Email? Coming right up. And while I'm reading a Wikipedia page and Facebooking at the same time, I can buy a scooter from Amazon. Not to mention reading a magazine and downloading podcasts and listening to music. I can do every single one of those things, all at one time.
That's the point of getting a tablet, right?
That's just it. webOS puts you at the center of all the action. It's a tablet in the way it's supposed to be.
That's something no other tablet can do. Anywhere. It's unmatched. And on top of allllll that, you still have the latest version of Android. Useless?! It's the furthest thing from.
oh didnt know you can have BOTH android and webOS. weird.
why do people have gripes about webOS then?
i already have a samsung galaxy phone, so i dont want the same thing but bigger (unless i can read better on it)
Exactly.
In order to be a good operating system, everything has to come together. You cannot miss one thing. WebOS has an app store, but you won't see many big name companies (the ones that matter) developing apps for it.
The problem with A & I tabletwise is that it doesn't work that different from your phone.
Which means the productivity, is not there.
I'm in Android watching a YouTube video, but as soon as I open another webpage, the video stops.
I'm in iOS and I get an email, or I want to look up how to beat this level of Angry Birds, if I enter the Internet, bye-bye Angry Birds, I have to start all over.
Those are big problems. WebOS saved us from that.
While you can do more in webOS, the ironic thing is, there's less apps, so you can't use that fantastic multitasking on everything you would like to.
So webOS used to be on thin ice, but better apps are coming in.
Still, this is a big problem for any tablet maker. We need a system where you can just push apps to make them compatible with any tablet device, or we are going to be stuck with iOS and Android as the only operating systems there are.
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seems like everyone loves it with the new ports!
can someone comment on how the TP improved from the original OS to the android?
more interested in the before/after thing. im figuring that if you do not mod it at all, it is truly a POS.
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If you don't mod the TouchPad, it's not truly a POS. with the original firmware, yes, it's the most laggy experience ever. But ever since the latest official firmware update, it becomes infinitely more usable.
If you apply the relevant preware patches and overclock on top of that, it becomes pretty darn snappy.
So WebOS is definitely still alive and kicking.
The latest CM Alpha is indeed impressive. But I still have trouble using it as my daily OS primarily due to the faster battery drain. But I'm sure that's just a temporary issue.
At the firesale price of $99 for a 16GB, it's a steal. I would say that it would even be worth it at $200.
But keep in mind that you're within range of getting one of these:
Kindle Fire is $199
Nook Tablet is $249
Personally, I want another one. Currently using my TP as my main computing device. Have CM installed, and barely using it, honestly.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
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Personally, I want another one. Currently using my TP as my main computing device. Have CM installed, and barely using it, honestly.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
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Same here, been my main computer for a week or two now. Except i exclusively use CM and haven't touched webos in a long time.
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Woth it? Well, if there will be a stable ICS port, and you understand what is a tablet and how you could use it, it's worth it, i guess. Personally, after i bought it i understood that there are quite few tasks that i could use a tablet for, so this thing just lies on my table, collecting dust.
Anyway, if you are going to buy TP NOW, better look in the Nook Tablet direction: for $250 you will have more compact tablet with better CPU/GPU and microsd slot.
I'm sitting at my laptop, but I'm using my TouchPad anyway because it's so fun to use.
I have to agree with Unrealwolf. If you have a purpose for a tablet, it is a good one for the price. It would be nice to have the SD Cord slot but the only reason I filled up my 16GB is because I put on 2GB of music and 20 full length MP4 movies.
At home I seldom use my laptop because I do all my email, social networking, and web browsing (ie. shopping, research, and forum updates) on a tablet (I have both a TP and a Nook Color). Very much worth it to me.
doh the deal got away
should i continue hunting or go for a fire/nook? not sure how well they compare but prices are close
Not too sure yet about the new nook tablet but the fire is getting some less than stellar reviews today. Seems to be a bit laggy. After using my touchpad for a while, I have a hard time going back to my nook color 7 inch screen. I am actually starting to develop apps in enyo for the touchpad. I really like webos as well as cm7. For me, the touchpad gives me the besr of both worlds.
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Im getting my touchpad on wednesday. 159 euros 32gb on Cyberport. Is it still worth it or shall i wait for kindle fire?
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BB sell first Transformer for $300
Till now, I considering buying NT, but with this price I think Transformer is better deal. Just want to see your thoughts?
gett said:
BB sell first Transformer for $300
Till now, I considering buying NT, but with this price I think Transformer is better deal. Just want to see your thoughts?
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Yes, I like the TF. But, I would like them to throw in the dock.
Also, I already redeemed by points for B&N gift cards so no turning back.
A 10" screen is very nice for certain uses but the size and weight of a 10" tablet is not what everyone wants. Personally 7" feels much nicer to use around the house and take with me all over the place while the 10" tablet I've used made me want to stay at a couch or table because it's not fully usable unless it's resting on something. Maybe I would get something that size as a second tablet, but I'd rather spend the money on a decent 14" laptop instead. Just me personal 2 cents
It is a nice device but weighs only 2.2 lbs.
Ergonomically speaking, I would rather get a notebook. It is not good for your hand holding that thing for long. Get a tablet that is under or close to 1 lbs. 2lbs feels way heavier than that over time because it strains your hand.
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BB sell first Transformer for $300
Till now, I considering buying NT, but with this price I think Transformer is better deal. Just want to see your thoughts?
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Now I'm not sure whether to get this or the nook. I'm waiting on the nook to come in the mail, but could easily return it. I love that the asus is unlocked and you can completely make it your own, with a guaranteed ICS upgrade.
The nook is much more portable and light weight. I just want my first tablet to be great at running games, playing movies, email and web browsing. No guarantee of ICS for the nook is really making it hard to decide.
Well im happy with my nt... Its rooted got new keyboard gapps amazon apps. Running 7 launcher. The thing is buttery smooth and does pretty much anything... Its small so i take everywhere. I can see how having at 10 would be almost to much
Thanks all for answers. The dilemma stays
NT, with portability and quality production but with locked bootloader
Transformer with bigger screen but unlocked and with future ICS
Locked bootloader is not a big deal for me, but I'm afraid that B&N will lock the possibility for sideloading in next OTA update
Ergonomics better screen sold me on the nt.
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I ran quadrant standard on asus and it hit 1400, nook tablet hit 1800. my kids are young (9 and 10) and prefer the nook for gyro games to the ipad 2. smaller profile and lighter to carry. does what you need it to do and better than a phone. good luck on your decision.
In many ways you can't compare the two. Just alone on device size. Both do well given their form factor. True the locked bootloader disappointed many (who knows really how that issue will play out given the talented devs) but then the higher serial TF's presented their own rooting issues (until Razorclaw).
In my mind having, one 7" and one 10.1" provides me with options of use and having choices is most always good!
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I ran quadrant standard on asus and it hit 1400, nook tablet hit 1800. my kids are young (9 and 10) and prefer the nook for gyro games to the ipad 2. smaller profile and lighter to carry. does what you need it to do and better than a phone. good luck on your decision.
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Large screen is better for eyes.
Who says NT isn't getting CM9 in near future?
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Now I'm not sure whether to get this or the nook. I'm waiting on the nook to come in the mail, but could easily return it. I love that the asus is unlocked and you can completely make it your own, with a guaranteed ICS upgrade.
The nook is much more portable and light weight. I just want my first tablet to be great at running games, playing movies, email and web browsing. No guarantee of ICS for the nook is really making it hard to decide.
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Who says NT isn't getting CM9 in near future?
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I never said it isn't, just saying it wasn't guaranteed. It will be (pretty much) guaranteed when the developers get past the locked bootloader.
I have both. I use the NT when reading in bed or on the couch. The rest of the time I use the TF because of the bigger screen and the keyboard.
gett said:
Thanks all for answers. The dilemma stays
NT, with portability and quality production but with locked bootloader
Transformer with bigger screen but unlocked and with future ICS
Locked bootloader is not a big deal for me, but I'm afraid that B&N will lock the possibility for sideloading in next OTA update
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What makes you think B&N will lock out sideloading in their next update? Why do you think they'd even want to do that? Don't you think they would have done it before they released the Tablet if they were going to do that? Bear in mind that some engineers who were developing the UI for the tablet put in a toggle for "Enable unknown Downloads". It just didn't happen by accident.
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BB sell first Transformer for $300
Till now, I considering buying NT, but with this price I think Transformer is better deal. Just want to see your thoughts?
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I think it depends on what you want to do with it. If you don't want to be bothered with rooting etc and the size factor doesnt matter I'd get the ASUS....and you can get the dock if that interests you.
Gf has NT, I have the TF. I like both! It just depends on your uses. NT has a nice, portable size for reading anywhere. I use the TF for pdf reading and annotating.
Older TFs have SBK1, which makes it unbrickable. There are lots of ROMs to choose from too.
The larger TF screen is better for group video watching, but the NT screen is still enough for 1 person.
The battery life on the NT is great! Lasts forever on idle. TF seems to drain faster on idle.
I was really surprised how fast the NT is when reading magazines.
I'm getting the TF Prime soon.
TL;DR
NT: Portability, Normal eBooks/B&N magazines
TF: Larger screen, Dock, ROMS, PDFs
I'm going to stay with the NT. It sounds like the developers are making good progress on the locked bootloader, and I still don't care about the cameras or gps. I'd rather have battery life.
At this point Transformer looks like a better purchase. All of the internal memory is accessible, it runs tablet apps and will get the ICS update.
NT's future is uncertain.
Where are you all finding the Transformer for $300? Tried bestbuy and it's $499
As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
Acer a100.
Battery life is not as good, but it's a solid tablet for the same money
Maybe the Archos 70B Internet Tablet might interest you. I just saw an article saying it should be coming out soon. I'd post a link but my NT won't let me copy & paste. I will be seriously considering returning my NT before January 31 if things still look as they do now.
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Archos 70b to come out in a few weeks. Good preliminary reviews. Google it.
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options are out there
Yeah, I've looked at the Acer & the Lenovo ideapad a1. The archos is one that I hadn't checked out, though. Man, those first few weeks with my NT before 1.4.1 really spoiled me. I feel like my NT is broken now, and I really like the device.
Acer Iconia A100 4 hours of battery like 70 bucks more
Samsung Galaxy 10 hours 16 gb 150 bucks more
Archos 70B http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/20/archos-launches-70b-honeycomb-tablet-expected-to-ship-next-mont/ has 512 ram and a pro: HDMI for $199
I'm looking at refurbished HTC Evo View's in the area of $250-$280 when they pop up.
Also, Galaxy Tab 7 Plus that can be had for $370 brand new.
Then I missed this GREAT deal today because I was working and not at my computer... Toshiba Thrive 32gb (refurb) for.... $299 arghhhh
http://1saleaday.com/?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1SaleADay&utm_content=1SALE+12-3-11
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As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
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I'm thinking about to replace the Tablet with a Color. It's cheaper, $199 new and 149 pre-owned. Both are with 1 year warranty. Since the Color can be dual-booted, so I don't have to root it.
FloridaPhil said:
I'm looking at refurbished HTC Evo View's in the area of $250-$280 when they pop up.
Also, Galaxy Tab 7 Plus that can be had for $370 brand new.
Then I missed this GREAT deal today because I was working and not at my computer... Toshiba Thrive 32gb (refurb) for.... $299 arghhhh
http://1saleaday.com/?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1SaleADay&utm_content=1SALE+12-3-11
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wow thanks for share that link have you buy from there before? i'll definitely keep an eye on it, thanks.
Htc Evo View/flyer is awful. Really slow once you start loading things onto it. Look at the new Archos tablet or perhaps an a100. Galaxy tabs are nice, but no expandable memory.
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Htc Evo View/flyer is awful. Really slow once you start loading things onto it. Look at the new Archos tablet or perhaps an a100. Galaxy tabs are nice, but no expandable memory.
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Couldn't disagree with you anymore. EVO View 4G is a kick as tab. Just got hc also.
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Utrru said:
Htc Evo View/flyer is awful. Really slow once you start loading things onto it. Look at the new Archos tablet or perhaps an a100. Galaxy tabs are nice, but no expandable memory.
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Galaxy Tab 7 Plus does have SD card slot.
Uncular1 said:
As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
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I was in the same boat as you. I had never rooted a device, and I was worried about what rooting entailed in relation to my warranty.
However, I decided to take the plunge anyway. I rooted my NT three days ago, following Indirect's method, and I can say that I am VERY happy with my decision.
Here are some reasons for my joy:
--->I can still access the B&N store, content, and in-store reading abilities (I just tested this tonight).
--->I can load whatever I want onto my device because I have access to root privileges and numerous app stores (Android Market, Amazon, B&N (although who would ever use this horrid marketplace)
--->I have a Swype keyboard on my tablet! (I use this on my phone and I absolutely love it on my NT)
What about the warranty you ask? With the availability of easy unrooting procedures and no instances of bricking a NT, I have confidence that I can always unroot my device if I find the need to use my warranty. Although, the only bad situation that I can imagine is if I somehow damage the device to the point where I cannot boot it up to undo the root (like if I dropped it in a lake or bathtub). Despite those worst case scenarios, I am totally willing to take the risk.
Someone has mentioned elsewhere that the NT is cheaper than other comparable tablets because B&N is counting on controlling the content and user experience to make a profit. By getting around their control by rooting, we (the consumer) are able to have a high quality tablet and the freedom that B&N was counting on restricting for their benefit.
Having said all of this, if you are unable/unwilling/too concerned to root your NT, then return the bad boy.
chefdave12118 said:
Couldn't disagree with you anymore. EVO View 4G is a kick as tab. Just got hc also.
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I 100% agree that the HTC Flyer/View is an amazing tablet. I owned the nook tablet for about 2 weeks until the update came out. Once I realized that B&N is going to continue to actively try and stop hacking I decided it wasn't worth the uphill battle for the life of the NT. I found a brand new Best Buy HTC Flyer on Craigslist for $280, about the same price as the NT after tax.
The HTC Flyer IMO is much snappier than the NT and I like the look and feel of it better than NT. I didn't think I would like the HTC Flyer from reviews, pics, and videos, but in person it is awesome. I really do think it is faster than the NT in general purposes. Battery life and screen are equivalent to NT. Basically, the NT is a little lighter and a little thinner but I think the build quality is better on the Flyer. The dual-core 1.0 GHz vs single-core 1.5 GHz is really a toss up, especially since the NT isn't running HC or ICS yet. HTC just released an official HC update. Also it has a fully active digitizer stylus that destroys the capacitive pens on any other tablet.
Alas, if the NT had the same hacking abilities as the NC, I would have kept it. I really like the NT and I am hoping this community outsmarts B&N. So with that, the HTC Flyer is a solid alternative if you want something similar with full android and no need for rooting.
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As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
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Just out of curiosity, what did 1.4.1 change that was bad enough to make you want to return it? I have no idea because I rooted mine right after the first boot and removed all the B&N stuff so that it's just a regular android tablet.
FloridaPhil said:
Galaxy Tab 7 Plus does have SD card slot.
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Youre right. I forgot about the 7 inch plus. My store only carries the 8.9 and 10.1. XD
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flippage said:
Just out of curiosity, what did 1.4.1 change that was bad enough to make you want to return it? I have no idea because I rooted mine right after the first boot and removed all the B&N stuff so that it's just a regular android tablet.
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Breaks root, loses ability to sideload apps.
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Utrru said:
Breaks root, loses ability to sideload apps.
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Then go back to 1.4.0 and block updates.
I would just like to comment on Archos. I do not own a recent Archos device, but had one of their older media players. The firmware was garbage, the hardware sucked, and the support was non-existent. I bought it on sale from a different retailer, so unfortunately I was unable to return the device. It did have the factory warranty, however. I sent it back to get it fixed three times when the internal hard drive failed. Each time it took a month to get it back, and it broke again within four weeks. The fourth time it died, I gave up and threw the thing away. Horrible waste of money. I will never buy another Archos product again.
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I would just like to comment on Archos. I do not own a recent Archos device, but had one of their older media players. The firmware was garbage, the hardware sucked, and the support was non-existent. I bought it on sale from a different retailer, so unfortunately I was unable to return the device. It did have the factory warranty, however. I sent it back to get it fixed three times when the internal hard drive failed. Each time it took a month to get it back, and it broke again within four weeks. The fourth time it died, I gave up and threw the thing away. Horrible waste of money. I will never buy another Archos product again.
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That's a shame. I bought an Archos 20gb Jukebox Recorder back in 2002. I replaced the firmware with Rockbox opensource firmware, upgraded the batteries over time, and eventually put a larger HDD in it. It still runs and I use it as an external harddrive. I'd still be using it as my music player except I replaced it with a video iPod with Rockbox software a little while back.
Guys there a deal for today at ebay.com for Nook Tablet from B&N that gives it for only 199$
yep.. couldnt refuse at that price point.. they got rid of the coupon.. so just $199 outright.. so saves on taxes if your state requires collecting it.. debated.. but i just cant say no to a deal like that.. loved the original NC.. was a solid piece of kit.. so i know i'll love the tablet..
I would get it as well but I live outside USA so.... :/
I jumped on this too. I've been following various websites for a better price and this is by far the best I've found (without having to do any pricematch/coupon shenanegans).
And the offer runs to Feb 23, apparently. Hope this establishes the new price point !
B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it.
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Thanks, talked me out of it in the nick of time!
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B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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damnnn uhh now I don't want the nook tablet anymore
edit: there doesn't seem to be much development for Asus tabs?? ? why is there no cm9 alpha or anything I know these usually have honeycomb stock...
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Well I for one am still very happy with mine. The wifi bug isn't that bad, and I have confidence the devs will get it under control. I have no problem accessing ask the space I need, and the battery life is incredible.
Having great dev support is not something to take lightly. The guys working on the NT are doing a great job. My Samsung Fascinate didn't have a usable CM7 until it had been out for almost a year. I wouldn't put it past them to get better multi-touch support for this device as well.
All in all, it's a great device, and the great dev support makes it even better.
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B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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I thought the Kindle Fire only recognized 2 points on the touch screen as well. At least thats what many review for the game Nova (kindle fire edition) on the Amazon app store say. http://www.amazon.com/Near-Orbit-Va...1?s=mobile-apps&ie=UTF8&qid=1329581136&sr=1-1
Hi couple of questions before i decide to take the plunge
1)Have the devs found out how to use the 12GB space that BN owns
2)How easy is this to root?
thanks!
I ordered it two days ago, can't wait to get it in the mail now.
The B&N - not a good deal at $250?
Oh, come on. There's always something "new" in the horizon - better, faster and cheaper (ie, the Quad Core Asus). And if you wait long enough for the Asus, something *even* better will be "just around the corner".
The B&N is, for me, an*incredible* deal. I own a Galaxy SII, a Motorola Atrix (heavily modded) and I got an iPad 2 at the office. I can't believe how much I got when I bought my Nook for $250. I'd definitely do it again. It's *not* only a good eReader - it's a tremendous game machine (I haven't yet found a single game with any sort of lag), a great browser, a perfect multimedia device... the list goes on and on. IMHO, I'd rather have the Nook than my iPad, it's far, far more useful right now (rooted, with GoLaunch EX and minor tweaks). CM7 will only make things better.
Its problems are trivial. No true multitouch? Why would it be a dealbreaker? Wi-Fi bug? I've seen it every once in a while - my HP laptop is far, far worse. What else is there? Nothing. Again, to me, it delivers far more than I ever expected out of it.
I've seen cheaper tablets around - some chinese junk running at 1.5 GHz (LOL). They look cheap and have no warranties whatsoever. For me, the NT and the KF are what tablets are all about, and I'd rather own either one of them than wait for something that may or may not come out soon (the Asus Quad Core).
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The B&N - not a good deal at $250?
Oh, come on. There's always something "new" in the horizon - better, faster and cheaper (ie, the Quad Core Asus). And if you wait long enough for the Asus, something *even* better will be "just around the corner".
The B&N is, for me, an*incredible* deal. I own a Galaxy SII, a Motorola Atrix (heavily modded) and I got an iPad 2 at the office. I can't believe how much I got when I bought my Nook for $250. I'd definitely do it again. It's *not* only a good eReader - it's a tremendous game machine (I haven't yet found a single game with any sort of lag), a great browser, a perfect multimedia device... the list goes on and on. IMHO, I'd rather have the Nook than my iPad, it's far, far more useful right now (rooted, with GoLaunch EX and minor tweaks). CM7 will only make things better.
Its problems are trivial. No true multitouch? Why would it be a dealbreaker? Wi-Fi bug? I've seen it every once in a while - my HP laptop is far, far worse. What else is there? Nothing. Again, to me, it delivers far more than I ever expected out of it.
I've seen cheaper tablets around - some chinese junk running at 1.5 GHz (LOL). They look cheap and have no warranties whatsoever. For me, the NT and the KF are what tablets are all about, and I'd rather own either one of them than wait for something that may or may not come out soon (the Asus Quad Core).
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Well said i think exactly as you do and not because the a new tablet with more specifications with same or better price is round the corner means the quality will be good and the development for it will be fast, so far with the nook tablet devs have done an amazing job far before than what i ever expected. There is always people that do not appreciate the work that is being done and on top of that they ask for more, unfortunately XDA has got many of those, its a shame.
I think the nook tablet is an investment and i feel very happy with it, i will for sure enjoy it for a while and once another good deal like the NT comes out with decent hardware (not Chinese junk as @fjhuerta say) and green lights for development maybe then i would think in upgrade.
~ Veronica
openallnight said:
Hi couple of questions before i decide to take the plunge
1)Have the devs found out how to use the 12GB space that BN owns
2)How easy is this to root?
thanks!
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1) yes
2) very easy...check put the development forum and you'll see the one click root. In a few days CM7 will be released in greater fashion than previously. In a month or so the nook tablet and its downfalls will be completely absent. The devs have been incredible with this device and it's only getting better and better. I purchased mine on release day and my love for it grows by the day. I've owned the kindle fire as well...but I did return it because it lacked the ram power of the nook tablet, and I could certainly tell(yes I was rooted on it as well).
Trust your gut. In the long run, I think if you choose the nook tablet, you'll be extremely happy.
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Got my tablet for $150 on craigslist WITH a 16gb SD card and a case included! *steal*
Bought my girl the NC off eBay for $150. Not bad I guess.
NT rooted with CM7
NC rooted with ICS CM9
I think I like the NC better now lol. Will the NT ever see ICS?
alaw said:
Got my tablet for $150 on craigslist WITH a 16gb SD card and a case included! *steal*
Bought my girl the NC off eBay for $150. Not bad I guess.
NT rooted with CM7
NC rooted with ICS CM9
I think I like the NC better now lol. Will the NT ever see ICS?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440438
Got mine too
though as ever as soon as I buy something they announce the next version
I wonder if this deal involves the new model of NT with only 8G of internal memory (instead of 16G)? This model can also be purchased from the BN website:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-tablet-barnes-noble/1104687969?ean=9781400501779
take note of the 512mb ram as well so not only is the 8 gig model less storage space...but also down to 512mb system ram. I was hoping they'd keep the 1 gig ram but just lower the 'hdd' shame not :/
I have been using the NT for about a month and a half, and honestly I think I should have gotten something better.
It does have its problems such as the wifi connection drops a lot and I have to restart the tablet. This is not the fault of the devs, but of B&N. I don't understand why we should have to hack and find workarounds just to get the full use of the NT.
Does anyone else feel that they should have gotten a different tablet? Perhaps an actual tablet?
I am considering selling the NT. I don't think I would have had the amount of issues with an actual tablet and one that is not so locked down.
Although I'm really satisfied with the capabilities of even just a regular root, the only time I've regretted buying an NT was when I heard Asus was coming out with a new 7 inch tablet later this year. That makes me want to sell this thing instantly, haha.
To be honest with you i bought my NT as a stop gap between selling my iPad2 and waiting for the iPad3.. with the intent to sell this once i picked up the new iPad..
and for the first week or two i did regret buying it but then.. Considering what i use it for
1.Watch movies (netflix, hulu, and divx on the SD card),
2 Browse the internet and 3. Actually read a book or two.. it's actually perfect for all that.
Used the SD card method to root (Thanks Albert) and then side loaded all the apps that i needed. Never had Wifi or reboot issues, the screen is actually brighter and clearer than the iPad 2 i had and the battery life is above average for a 7 inch
I will be holding on to this for a while.. and i think once they perfect the other rom's and get the bluetooth working it's actually a keeper.. especially if ICS gets ported.
But as always you have to ask yourself does it do what i need?.. the only reason to get a different tablet would be if you needed GPS, Camera's, bigger screen, 3G, a different app store, video out etc....
if none of that is the reason.. then whatever tablet you buy will fill you with the same... should i have really bought this feeling..
I am comparing the NT with the $199 refurbished 16Gb HTC Flyer. I find that I miss CM7 on the Flyer... and the Flyer somehow seems harder to hold. I guess I got used to both CM7 and the bezel on the Nook Color and now the Nook Tablet. I haven't decided which I will keep yet, but I am leaning towards keeping the NT.
Heck no ... I've had 250.00 dollars worth of hacking fun with mine I have a feeling there is a lot more coming. Just wish I knew how to code to help out
Basically it boils down to what you want to do with it. Technically, you bought an e-reader. If you wanted more, you should have bought more. Myself personally, I came to XDA before I made up my mind between various tablets. I settled on the NT because I could see there was a bright future for it. The hardware bugs will be worked out eventually. Blame B&N for the hold-ups thus far. Give it a while. If you sell now, in 6 months, you will regret buying something else and will be looking to get another NT.
Understandably, there are limitations to this device. It's half the price of an iPad. You don't get any of the fancy things like GPS, 3G/LTE, camera, etc. But it is a great tablet for the money.
I bought this because my cheap e-reader broke. It was mainly to read with. That said, since I bought it 2 months ago, I haven't read more than a page of a book!
I've had tons of fun putting Android on, customizing it, and getting it how I like it. I'll be 10 times happier when a fully functional port of ICS is released for it. Netflix and videos look amazing on its screen, indisputably better than the supposedly identical screen on the Kindle Fire (just read ANY review).
I've never had an issue with the WIFI dropping or restarting. There are a few issues that the great devs and contributors here have helped me to conquer.
There are still a couple things I'd like to see get done to this device though, other than the glorious port of ICS. I'd love to be able to use ALL of the 16 GB of data on board. That was one top reason I chose it over the Fire, but I'm confident the great people here will solve that in time. Another is that, despite there not being onboard GPS, I'd still like location-based tools to work, like they do on any other WIFI device like my phone.
Other than that, I'm really happy with what I bought. I may not use it for what I initially intended, but hey, who has time to read when you're busy installing your favourite apps, customizing widgets, and making your home page perfect?
And on the issue of buyer's regret, when it comes to tablets and smartphones, there will ALWAYS be something better within 3-6 months!
You can use your 16Gb, just repartition it, it is very easy.
My only regret so far is that I got the 8gb NT. It is actually my father-in-law's device, but I told him I would configure it to have better access to the Android market. I had read several posts about rooting and installing Go launcher (or equivalent) and was excited to do this. For the time being at least, it doesn't look like this is an option, and the 512k RAM looks to be an issue. I may try to convince him to return it and get the 16GB version. Since it's not mine, I guess I need to let him see if he is happy with it, but I'm chomping at the bit to put some of the great work from this forum to good use on his system!
Maybe I will have to just get my own. I have been talking about getting some kind of tablet with my wife, and will likely get something in the next couple months. Since I am used to a smartphone, it's hard not being able to install any app that I am familiar with, and I will likely go for something with more features.
As others have said, it's all about what you actually need/expect. And there will always be times when you second-guess what you do purchase... Buyer's remorse is just part of being human, IMO!
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I have been using the NT for about a month and a half, and honestly I think I should have gotten something better.
It does have its problems such as the wifi connection drops a lot and I have to restart the tablet. This is not the fault of the devs, but of B&N. I don't understand why we should have to hack and find workarounds just to get the full use of the NT.
Does anyone else feel that they should have gotten a different tablet? Perhaps an actual tablet?
I am considering selling the NT. I don't think I would have had the amount of issues with an actual tablet and one that is not so locked down.
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Well, I was able to get my Nook Tablet much more easily than a Kindle Fire because my University has a deal with Barnes & Noble; my school bookstore is basically a small B&N store full of textbooks. If I had the choice, I would have chosen the Kindle Fire, but I still like my Nook Tablet, especially now that CM7 is running on it.
I don't regret it, but let me say - I never liked my device hacks to be easy! Sounds masochistic, yes, but I've always enjoyed installing custom firmware on stuff that, until some hackers got a hold of it, was never able to run anything other than what the manufacturers intended. I'm talking about Wii, PSP, PDAs, etc.
If you think development for the Nook Tab is rough, think about how slow and brutal it was getting the PSP to run custom software. I suffered at least one electrocution modding the thing's battery because I didn't have much experience with moving pins on a chipset. It was worth it to get homebrew stuff running on there though.
My point is, while the Kindle Fire owners do have it a lot easier than us, I enjoy witnessing the development process first-hand; it's oddly satisfying. I understand some people around these forums are only here because they wanted a cheap CyanogenMod 7 Tablet and want to see the Nook Tablet become that - but I'll be lurking around here long after the Nook Tablet devs reach their goals because I'm fascinated by hacking and modifying devices.
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You can use your 16Gb, just repartition it, it is very easy.
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I just realized that after my post. Haven't checked the posts here lately. It seems a little complicated for a noob like me. Plus, don't I have to install CM7 also to do it?
No you don't need to run CM7 to repartition, I am noob as well, it is very easy, it just looks hard.
Just follow this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22157605&postcount=25
Partition 10 is where you would put you own data
Partition 11 is where all apps go, when you install them.
on mine i did half half because a lot of games are pretty big and need space, but you can change it to you own need.
just do the commands in bold black, the rest that you see is what your nook outputs.
Update after using the HTC Flyer for a bit more. I think I will sell my 2 Nook Tablets and keep the HTC Flyers. At $199 they just offer so much more.... GPS, front and back cameras, working bluetooth, working skype, dual speakers that are loud, HDMI out via MHL (adapter on the way). The built-in 16gb is partitioned so there is 8+ GB for media stuff. And for my almost 7 year old, he loves that Talking Tomcat and Talking Ben work, and Galaxy on Fire 2 runs fast on the Flyer as well since there is a native adreno version. It is only single core but runs at 1.5ghz and has 1gb ram so it feels as fast at the NT if not faster in some cases. The Adreno 205 gpu is not rated quite as good as the Powervr SGX540 but seems to be well supported for gaming. Not to say that there are not some annoyances with the Flyer. I can't seem to turn off the lock screen. There is no CM7 though there are custom roms for both Gingerbread and Honeycomb for the Flyer (need to root and unlock the device first). And I need to find better cases for them. Anyway I think the refurbished HTC Flyer is a keeper at $199 from buy.com And of course I can read on them with Moon+ Reader Pro, Kindle App, Nook App, etc.
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So far no regrets. Just installed cm7 and happy.
Plus I only paid $175 for my 16gb tablet on Craigslist.
Hopefully cm9 makes it's way to the tablet.
My only regrets are the possibility of what the Asus tablet might offer and that the NT can be had for $175 now. Those aren't really fair reasons though since there will always be price drops and always be new options if you wait. I wanted it for Christmas and it's been everything I expected. I'm rooted at 1.4.0, zero WiFi issues and it's never rebooted (I did have a frozen screen once). I plan on staying on this platform until the fine developers on this forum give me the option of ICS for my NT!
I have no regrets at all. It let me do everything I really cared about right out of the box for a price I didn't mind paying. Any additional functionality after ebooks, videos, music and some light web browsing is just so much gravy as far as I'm concerned.
I love it, but primarily because I bought into the B&N ecosystem years ago (I have about 400 books and magazine subscriptions). It's much more pleasant to read on the NT than it is on my iPad, due to weight and size. Movies are great, except for the below-average speaker. I don't surf the Internet on my NT; if I have to do it mobile, I prefer to leave that to my phone since I can do it one-handed. My only qualms:
1. There needs to be an Economist magazine app, built for the Nook. You can't install the one from Android Market, even after rooting.
2. The speaker, as mentioned above.
3. The little hook in the bottom corner is kinda annoying. Yes, I know it makes the design unique, but it gets in the way. It also makes accessing the MicroSD card a pain.
4. At $250, GPS would've been nice. Not that I expect to carry it around for turn-by-turn, but I'd like to access the map and Yelp for places to eat while in my hotel room.
I don't regret getting the NT16 at all. But then again my uses for the device are:
1. Reading. I read a LOT.
2. Playing games
3. Surfing the internet
4. Study device (read pdfs/powerpoints/word docs for school)
I also have music and movies stored on the device for the day when I need to entertain myself outside reading/games and off a wifi network. It's small and light enough to carry at all times in my purse or backpack and zippy enough to do what I need it to do.
Once CM9 is released I'll have to debate a lot on whether or not I want to keep my simple root with the BN eReader or upgrade to ICS for full tablet capabilities (like all those excellent note taking apps compatible with Honeycomb/ICS)
No regrets at all.
Initially when it appeared that B&N was going to hound us endlessly trying to disable root and return everyone's NT to 'jail', I was a bit resentful. I still don't recommend the NT to others because I don't trust them.
But I should have known the dimbulbs in B&N management are no match for the talented devs here. I've got no worries that my device can be ruined with an underhanded update- and I haven't done much of anything to secure it since I first rooted it back in December or so. (Still running rooted 1.4.0 with no problems). The fact that it can now run CM7 (which I haven't tried yet) is just icing on the cake. I'm guessing I'll love it even more once I get around to trying that.
The tablet does everything I need it to and more, and was a good deal for the price.
Next tablet I own probably won't be a locked device, but as for the NT itself, no regrets. That's 100% thanks to the devs here.