I am trying to find a method to temporarily root an ATT SGSII for someone else. (Currently still on 2.3.4 until battery drain issue is fixed with 2.3.6)
They do not need permanent root as they would not know what to do with it.
The reason I want to do this is to simply remove the AT&T Bloatware without tripping any of the flash counters.( I know there is the kernel counter and a suspected counter reset "counter").
So essentially, here is the conceptual method I would be looking for:
1. Initiate temporary root
2. Remove bloatware
3. Reboot phone
4. Phone is bloat free without any trace of flashing and root removed
I appreciate any insight or help I can get on this. (I tried searching xda and Google, but have found little information on this(at least for this device).
Thanks
Even if they don't have any interest with using root functions why not leave it? Would leaving the phone rooted actually cause any issues?
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There are no temp roots - you'll need to use the standard permaroots, then as the last thing you do, remove the following three files:
/system/xbin/su
/system/bin/su
/system/app/Superuser.apk
to unroot
Follow this thread [GUIDE] How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!!, I think u could just do step 1 and 2, then remove the Root as "Entropy512" said.
I dont think that exists. However u should just root ur phone and keep it. I was hesitant to root it myself but it's the best thing that I ever did for my phone.
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Ok that's what I thought. To just perform the standard process and remove.
Thanks guys
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Hey guys I stupidly applied the software update yesterday and lost root. Is there a way to get it back now?
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just re run the current root methods a couple of ppl said they had to run it twice to get it to work
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If you had root before, the su and busybox files are still there - they just don't have the proper permissions. I'm sure there are a few ways to do this, but the manual way would be to run the rage*.bin exploit to temporarily get in as root and change the permissions on the su and busybox files to 4755.
Thanks I will try when I get home tonight
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My Goal: set everything back to stock for warranty. (charging system is *%$#ed)
my problem: I am stuck at the unrooting part.
I have read everything I can over and over and yet I still find myself in a predicament. I have restored everything back to stock (I rooted and unlocked my SGS2, but I never used a custom ROM).
I have relocked the device, I have reset everything back to stock. I used the jig to reset the flash counter. I re flashed my secure kernel. Everything checks out, except my Superuser access.
Now here is the part where I am stuck. So essentially from what I read I have 3 options that I can recall:
1 - just re flash my stock ROM to remove root (seems pointless as I have never had to flash a ROM, seeing as I am still on my stock ROM)
2 - unroot using SOC (which failed to work, stuck on step 6)
3 - use Samsung Kies to update. (this also failed, won't detect my phone, and yes it is in Kies mode, no debug)
I am at a loss. I am on the Bell network in Canada, and I am on UGKG2 firmware.
Please let me know if you need more information. Also, I apologize if the answer is in one of the threads. I have been reading everything whenever I can, and just can't figure this one out. thanks for your patience in advance
alex8642 said:
My Goal: set everything back to stock for warranty. (charging system is *%$#ed)
my problem: I am stuck at the unrooting part.
I have read everything I can over and over and yet I still find myself in a predicament. I have restored everything back to stock (I rooted and unlocked my SGS2, but I never used a custom ROM).
I have relocked the device, I have reset everything back to stock. I used the jig to reset the flash counter. I re flashed my secure kernel. Everything checks out, except my Superuser access.
Now here is the part where I am stuck. So essentially from what I read I have 3 options that I can recall:
1 - just re flash my stock ROM to remove root (seems pointless as I have never had to flash a ROM, seeing as I am still on my stock ROM)
2 - unroot using SOC (which failed to work, stuck on step 6)
3 - use Samsung Kies to update. (this also failed, won't detect my phone, and yes it is in Kies mode, no debug)
I am at a loss. I am on the Bell network in Canada, and I am on UGKG2 firmware.
Please let me know if you need more information. Also, I apologize if the answer is in one of the threads. I have been reading everything whenever I can, and just can't figure this one out. thanks for your patience in advance
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you have to flash an original firmware if you want to get rid of root and cwm.
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Is there a way you can tell that your phone isn't rooted anymore?
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Is there a way you can tell that your phone isn't rooted anymore?
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Well, there is a market app (rootcheck) but it's easy to check yourself, if you dont have superuser in your app drawer you are not rooted.
Let's say, you dont have superuser app and you cannot access cwm recovery = you are not rooted
If I may ask, why exactly is it that you cannot unroot without flashing an original firmware? Why does SOC even give you the option if it doesn't work? Thanks for the timely replies though
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If I may ask, why exactly is it that you cannot unroot without flashing an original firmware? Why does SOC even give you the option if it doesn't work? Thanks for the timely replies though
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soc does work but a lot of people screw up 3 Simple steps and end up with a semi bricked phone.
Flash a stock firmware is probably the more "safe" system. Also allows you to flash latest version that some countries will never receive or receive very late.
Sry my English sux even more today lol
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Ok... So let's troubleshoot why I can't get the unroot to work for SOC... I have tried both in and out of download mode. Debugging on and debugging off. Yet the unroot stops at step 6 and does nothing...
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I read in another post it is as simple as removing superuser.apk and the su folder on system...
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I just flashed the stock rom back. Seems to look quite 100% like it did when it came in the box. Jigged to kill flash counter. I think I am set to send it in Thanks a lot guys.
Following that, looks like for root you just need to download superuser app from market and you are good to go....
Its not so easy as you know.
Removing the superuser apk just removes the superuse app, but then you end up with a semi rooted phone with cwm recovery (that you dont want if you want to go back to stock)
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Good im glad you managed to "restock" the phone as you see it is fast and easy with flash of a stock rom
I was wondering, if I do root, is there a guarantee that I will get the exclamation point? Or can I avoid it altogether if I root with an official kernel and still get superuser rights? I'd like this explained
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
follow this
or just buy a 3 dollar jig------search jig for samsung galaxy s2
zephus said:
I was wondering, if I do root, is there a guarantee that I will get the exclamation point? Or can I avoid it altogether if I root with an official kernel and still get superuser rights? I'd like this explained
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If you root with Entropy512's stock plus root package, as referenced above, you will completely avoid the yellow triangle and flash count. If you then want to install custom software, ROM and/or Kernel, without invoking the yellow triangle or flash count, you can then install a clockworkmod enabled kernel using either adb from your pc, or Android Terminal Emulator on your phone. You can flash anything from clockworkmod recovery without invoking the yellow triangle or incrementing the flash counter.
creepyncrawly said:
If you root with Entropy512's stock plus root package, as referenced above, you will completely avoid the yellow triangle and flash count. If you then want to install custom software, ROM and/or Kernel, without invoking the yellow triangle or flash count, you can then install a clockworkmod enabled kernel using either adb from your pc, or Android Terminal Emulator on your phone. You can flash anything from clockworkmod recovery without invoking the yellow triangle or incrementing the flash counter.
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Good tip, thx. Question: will Entropy512's "stock plus root package" given permanant root (including /system)... or is SuperOneClick needed for the su files?
DoctorQMM said:
Good tip, thx. Question: will Entropy512's "stock plus root package" given permanant root (including /system)... or is SuperOneClick needed for the su files?
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Permanent root - really all superoneclick does on our devices is use ADB to push su and Superuser.apk to the right locations and then chmod them properly.
So the end result after it is the same thing as having them in the right places to begin with, which is what my prerooted system package does.
Sweet, love the response. Now, one last question to this: if I use entropy stock and rom package and avoid the exclamation mark fully, will I still be marked as a violator of the device warranty?
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zephus said:
Sweet, love the response. Now, one last question to this: if I use entropy stock and rom package and avoid the exclamation mark fully, will I still be marked as a violator of the device warranty?
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if you flash anything other than official samsung/att/kies updates...you have voided your warranty
Well, when I mean marked, I meant is it still possible to stealthily avoid violating it using this method.
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AT&T is EXTREMELY gullible when it comes to sob stories. My bro got new iphones after his got old by saying that it was messed up. I also jailbroke my iphone then broke it when it dropped and I got a new one free of harge
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Hm, then maybe I'll put off rooting for a month or so..
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Well, when I mean marked, I meant is it still possible to stealthily avoid violating it using this method.
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If you flash the unrooted stock image and then do a wipe from stock recovery, it SHOULD be undetectable.
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AT&T is EXTREMELY gullible when it comes to sob stories. My bro got new iphones after his got old by saying that it was messed up. I also jailbroke my iphone then broke it when it dropped and I got a new one free of harge
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Maybe so in the past. Thanks to the abuse from ppl like you, AT&T will now charge you for the full price if they later determined that your phone is not covered by warranty any more due to either abuse or false claims.
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Well i am not rooted at the moment cause i flashed a zip that took root off and still have a custom kernal going with unlocked bootloader is that even supposed to be possible?
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Thats impossible. As soon as you flashed that "zip" it over writes everything. You need to be unlock to have a custom kernel
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well thats what i thought but i couldent use root explorer or any root access apps but when i turn off the phone it still says unlock
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well thats what i thought but i couldent use root explorer or any root access apps but when i turn off the phone it still says unlock
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Interesting. Interesting indeed. Is there anyway you could upload a vid of this?
i wouldent suggest it seeing now after it turned off it wouldent do the sbf files to fix. idk if it was dealing with that cause the sbf always finishes but ends up in a boot loop which as of right now im trying to fix it. but if it happens again ill c what i can do to show you. cause i always thought you had to be rooted to have an unlocked but idk if it was just a one time thing
Is the super user app installed?
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Yes it was
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I have this same issue right now how it happened for me is that I orginally used the one click root method I found here. Later down the road I noticed that a stable build of cm7 had come out so I decided to try it out. I flashed pudding and it worked just fine and unlocked the device when I went to go get clockwork on the device however, I noticed the my root was no longer working reading in the comments section I saw that the one click root method was not compatible with the unlocked bootloader. I tried to root the phone with the system.img file that it mentioned using in the guide it worked at least as far as pushing it to the device but still no root. I then tried to flash the device back to stock I used the sbf file provided and it did wipe the phone but I still have the unlock icon when I boot the phone and can no longer root it no matter what method I try. If anyone can help me with re locking my device, I would greatly appreciate it.
Have you tryed the depudding. Go into the pudding unlock section theres one that relocks it just like how u unlocked it
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As far as I'm aware, being unlocked and being rooted are two separate processes on this phone. You don't have to have one to have the other. I've been rooted and locked, rooted and unlocked, and unlocked with no root. Hope that helps.
And I haven't had any problems with the one-click root and unlocking or sbf-ing back to stock.
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Thanks for the help guys I got it to work now had to do a factory reset and then flash the sbf file and the seemed to unroot the device it still didn't unlock it however I think if I used the depudding method curly mentioned it would work.
photon
I am currently running an "unlocked bootloader" on a non- rooted system on my photon 4g. I was rooted and then unrooted because I couldn't flash cwm for some reason....I am really really looking to installing miui with the ultimate iphone theme. I love how poloshed and clean it looks!
So I downloaded VooDoo Root Keeper and backed up my root. Downloaded the OTA update and let it install. Once the phone rebooted I didn't have root, but I went into VooDoo Root Keeper and clicked Restore root. And Root Checker now report I have ROOT once again...
You have to reboot after restoreing root to get apps to work that require root.
And?
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Lucky, i installed with nothing to backup root.
Even after installing complete stock, then updating it failed... I don't think this update likes my phone very much.
If I remember reading this correctly you have no problem getting root, it's just that you lose access to custom recoveries.. So therefore kind of pointless to update since you can't run custom roms
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From what I read you will lose root with the OTA and not be able to re-root with the current known method. Am I wrong?
jim2029 said:
From what I read you will lose root with the OTA and not be able to re-root with the current known method. Am I wrong?
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nope your right they patched the previous method so if you dont have root and update its gone for a while..
Root without recovery is :thumbdown:
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Dubbsy said:
Root without recovery is :thumbdown:
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I agree the future custom roms will have the parts of the update we want and not the major part we don't. I'll never give up my custom recovery!!
Well I haven't ran any custom roms on this yet... But this is still helpful ad I do run AdAway, Faceniff and WifiKill... which all require Root .
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Root without recovery is :thumbdown:
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root without recovery is better than no root...
Not to be a party pooper, but why is this in the development section?
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It seems to have worked!
Following this process I was able to keep my root, have not tried using recovery though.
Use OTA RootKeeper to protect root, take OTA update, restore root using RootKeeper, update binaries using SuperSU. Existing apps that use root still work as expected!
Glad it worked for you too.
Has anyone else achieved this? I'm tempted to do it but obviously concerned as I do not want to lose root. I'm sure not every phone is the same.
Also, does anyone know if the OTA will work if you have frozen apps ( including frozen bloatware)?
sorry for the noob question, I got my 1st android device a couple weeks ago and I'm trying to get up to speed quickly.
I see some people saying they want to unroot to take the VRUAME7 update... and I see others saying they took the update which caused them to loose root privileges. So I'm still trying to determine if I need to (or should) unroot to take the update.
I have the stock ROM, so can I just take the update without unrooting first? If the update succeeds, what are the drawbacks of not unrooting prior to the update?
Note: I do plan to unroot first. this question is mostly just for my understanding.
If you unroot prior to the me7 update you will not be able to get it back. If you keep root with voodoo through the ota you lose custom recovery/ability to rom.
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