Good news for the Friends of the latest ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime, because from March will be a UMTS version hit the market, which is also equipped with a more powerful GPS module. ASUS is responding to the continuing complaints relating to the relatively weak performance of the receiver currently installed GPS.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/07/asus-windows-8-tablet-promised/
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Still worth getting an ASUS Transformer Prime now?
hopefully the windows 8 tablet they release is similar enough hardware wise to the prime that we can easily port it.
Man wouldn't that be nice!
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Why would they ruin a perfectly good tablet with windows 8
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Why would they ruin a perfectly good tablet with windows 8
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so I can install steam and play all my windows games I would love to play and can't!
I don't need gps or mobile data, so to me it's worth it to me now. Good news win8
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so I can install steam and play all my windows games I would love to play and can't!
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Not sure if your being sarcastic, but it will be an arm processor.
None of the current windows apps will work on Windows 8 Tablets.
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hopefully the windows 8 tablet they release is similar enough hardware wise to the prime that we can easily port it.
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it will be. supposedly using Tegra3 also last time I heard. so "should" be no issue porting it. if not tegra3 maybe a lil less powerful ARM. either way, we can handle it.
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Not sure if your being sarcastic, but it will be an arm processor.
None of the current windows apps will work on Windows 8 Tablets.
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Are you trying to say every piece of software that runs on windows machines right now will not run on windows 8? I have a very hard time believing that.
edit: nevermind that just did the research you are right and I cannot believe they would go that direction that is unbelievable.
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Are you trying to say every piece of software that runs on windows machines right now will not run on windows 8? I have a very hard time believing that.
edit: nevermind that just did the research you are right and I cannot believe they would go that direction that is unbelievable.
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It is the only direction to go, unless they release a prime with a x86 processor. Its not a choice but a fact of life.
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Ill be honest. I don't understand the hype. Windows 8 for ARM is not compatible with the x86 varient so no apps will work unless it is specifically ported to work on the arm processor. Beyond that what is Microsoft bringing to te table that Android doesn't have? Office?
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Compiling your x86 project to support ARM in Visual Studio will be VERY easy. Devs who care to support tablets can do so with almost no effort. It's a pretty big deal.
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Are you trying to say every piece of software that runs on windows machines right now will not run on windows 8? I have a very hard time believing that.
edit: nevermind that just did the research you are right and I cannot believe they would go that direction that is unbelievable.
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I lol'd...hard.
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Compiling your x86 project to support ARM in Visual Studio will be VERY easy. Devs who care to support tablets can do so with almost no effort. It's a pretty big deal.
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This is what I have heard as well. Legacy software won't work out the gate, but going forward it shouldn't be too hard for devs to make software work on both.
Obviously if this is the case, windows 8 will quickly become very hard to ignore in the tablet arena. Hell even if they get fully functioning office software on it (which hopefully will be one of the first things they port in), that alone will be a huge incentive for many people to switch.
I guess we all forgot about the switch apple made from ibm to intel!
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Still worth getting an ASUS Transformer Prime now?
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It depends on the person and what they are looking for.
Your question can be applied to any piece of technology that has ever been made(or will be) since there will always be a "latest and greatest" product coming around the corner in 3 months.....6 months...9 months...etc.....especially in the tablet arena.
If a person held out for the next greatest thing they would never own want they desire.
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It depends on the person and what they are looking for.
Your question can be applied to any piece of technology that has ever been made(or will be) since there will always be a "latest and greatest" product coming around the corner in 3 months.....6 months...9 months...etc.....especially in the tablet arena.
If a person held out for the next greatest thing they would never own want they desire.
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I must say if they slapped on a higher price for the 3G version which there probably will be it wouldn't be as appealing. I'm like most a WiFi only version is perfect for my needs however functional GPS would be good.
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those that want to see Windows on their Transformer Prime just download and install Splashtop HD from the market. This little $10 app makes the hype of Windows 8 in any variant seem like a waste.
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those that want to see Windows on their Transformer Prime just download and install Splashtop HD from the market. This little $10 app makes the hype of Windows 8 in any variant seem like a waste.
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Splashtop HD comes free inside the cloud app.
Windows 8 on tablets will be in the "Metro" interface not the normal windowed mode on desktops and laptops.
Frankly I think Microsoft is way too late, just like their phones being way too late to market.
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Compiling your x86 project to support ARM in Visual Studio will be VERY easy. Devs who care to support tablets can do so with almost no effort. It's a pretty big deal.
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from what I heard microsoft has suggested if you want to have your legacy app on metro you should start from scratch, as a direct port is doable but not easy
but maybe I heard wrong
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Hope I'm not being sacrilegeous, but is it possible? I've always admired the platform, but the lack of apps always held me back from trying it.
Any possibility we could get WebOS running on the G tab?
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Because if number of available apps is the problem, WebOS is clearly the answer.
Thanks for the laugh.
spamhead said:
Because if number of available apps is the problem, WebOS is clearly the answer.
Thanks for the laugh.
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the lack of apps is whats kept him from trying Web OS (ie: buying a web os device) however hes interested in trying out the platform if he could get it running on his gtab.
but you clearly didn't pick that up and made an ass of yourself.
You're right (on both counts).
Not the first or last time I make an ass of myself on the internet.
I doubt it, but it would be awesome. WebOS is a stunningly beautiful OS. I love the way it looks, feels, and works. To me, it's up there with android in the multitasking department and surpasses it in design (though honeycomb is getting close). I had a pre for about 6 months and sometimes miss some of the things it did. That being said, as of june 2010, it was buggy as all get out and the app store was severly lacking.
I second the request for someone to look into this though, as it would be a lot of fun to play with.
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You're right (on both counts).
Not the first or last time I make an ass of myself on the internet.
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Hey, at least you owned up to it
I bought a Palm Pre the day it was released, I thought WebOS was pretty damn awesome, but they released it on hardware of the worst quality (my Pre oreo'd like a mofo, and the touchscreen stopped working 9 months in). That and the fact that they didn't license it out like Android pretty much doomed it from the start.
Nice to see HP giving it a go, and #2 tablet world is wide open at the moment, but I wouldn't choose it over Android. Would be fun to play with though.
CPU is probably the big obstacle - anyone know what WebOS is compiled for? I actually know very little about the device.
If, for example, the hardware was ARM based then it's in the realm of possibility.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webos. hmmm, ARM-based and Linux based. Interesting.....
roebeet said:
CPU is probably the big obstacle - anyone know what WebOS is compiled for? I actually know very little about the device.
If, for example, the hardware was ARM based then it's in the realm of possibility.
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original pre was an omap processor, not sure if that is arm or not. I think texas instruments was the manufacturer
Btw I thought of this after reading about all the work done on the HTC HD2 and and HD7 running both Windows x.x and Android concurrently. Android Central recently had an article about WebOS 3.0 where they said it is starting to look mighty impressive.
I've always enjoyed Android and how customizable it is, but have enjoyed the UI from WebOS (one of my cousin owned a Pre).
Btw I enjoy using all platforms, I've been on Windows, OS X, and Ubunut for desktops and laptops, and for Smartphones I've used WM 6 (and prior), Blackberry, iOS, and Android. I tend to go with the one that suits my needs/wants best. Now that tablets are starting to be on the rise, I haven't set in stone which one I prefer yet. I picked up a Gtab from Woot knowing that there is a strong community of modders in addition to some solid internal hardware and specs.
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I know nothing about the programming side, but if we could get the ball rolling on this, I'm ready and willing to use my time and hardware for testing.
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Web os is now open source.
Anyone interested
Ubunut!
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..., and Ubunut ...
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LOL! Is this the name for an Ubuntu fanatic?
I have a HP Touchpad 4G in-hand and was wondering if there any devs out there who could use the codes from this rare version to make existing HP Touchpads any better?
This toucH pad is 4G made for ATT and also comes stock Dual 1.5 GHZ. Software on box says 3.0.1. I have not opened it yet.
Ok. Is it stock android? Or webOS?. Get whole of me in pm and we can talk later tonight. I will contact Myn and virus about it.
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Ok. Is it stock android? Or webOS?. Get whole of me in pm and we can talk later tonight. I will contact Myn and virus about it.
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Would have been awesome if it was android. I was told that HP Touch pad II was in dev but was just dropped this week which WAS going to be ANdroid. It was going to be a much thinner version like iPad2.
The version i have is the WebOS version. I contact you PM when I get out of work.
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Would have been awesome if it was android. I was told that HP Touch pad II was in dev but was just dropped this week which WAS going to be ANdroid. It was going to be a much thinner version like iPad2.
The version i have is the WebOS version. I contact you PM when I get out of work.
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This makes no sense
Why would HP ever make an Android device and pay royalties to Microsoft when they own a perfectly ok OS themselves
and it's not like Android's lighting the tablet world on fire
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This makes no sense
Why would HP ever make an Android device and pay royalties to Microsoft when they own a perfectly ok OS themselves
and it's not like Android's lighting the tablet world on fire
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This may make no sense to you but the prototype was just tested and dropped project.
WebOS is a perfectly ****ty OS imo. My friend in R&D told me about the KNOWN memory leak in the webOS browser and causes system instability and the scroll issue. Also how the kernel for the Touchpad does not function properly with Dual-cores but was still released.....
There are MANY bugs with this product. There is also a 7" version of the HP Touchpad I have here that was never released.
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This may make no sense to you but the prototype was just tested and dropped project.
WebOS is a perfectly ****ty OS imo. My friend in R&D told me about the KNOWN memory leak in the webOS browser and causes system instability and the scroll issue. Also how the kernel for the Touchpad does not function properly with Dual-cores but was still released.....
There are MANY bugs with this product. There is also a 7" version of the HP Touchpad I have here that was never released.
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The only thing we need is actual drivers to support the touchpad for android. That's it.
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hydrogenman said:
This makes no sense
Why would HP ever make an Android device and pay royalties to Microsoft when they own a perfectly ok OS themselves
and it's not like Android's lighting the tablet world on fire
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The only thing we need is actual drivers to support the touchpad for android. That's it.
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Let me ask my friend if he can leak me the drivers if he can get his hands on them.... since the project was officially shut down this week with the HP TouchPad II, maybe he can legally get me them.
Ohh, is it possible to get pictures of the 7 in model? Hopefully on and showing the OS
the touchpad go....
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Let me ask my friend if he can leak me the drivers if he can get his hands on them.... since the project was officially shut down this week with the HP TouchPad II, maybe he can legally get me them.
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No go on the drivers
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Ohh, is it possible to get pictures of the 7 in model? Hopefully on and showing the OS
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Not on, though I wouldn't imagine webOS would look any different than the regular Touchpad.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/19/hp...d-heres-what-a-dead-7-inch-tablet-looks-like/
Completely useless info but R&D dept at HP is missing two Touchpad II tablets recently with Android build on them.... They were prototypes. Project recently canned.
Why would they consider anandroid tablet? Simple,webos was a complete and total failure they wasted over a billion dollars on. I'm not making a statement about the quality of the software. I'm personally less than impressed with it but that's not the point. Lets just assume its the most amazing OS ever made and makes both iOS and Android look like a Commodore Vic 20 in comparison. Honestly,its all opinion. Lets stick to facts. Best Buy ordered hundreds of thousands. They sold around 20,000 before the firesale. The facts are no one bought them and no one developed for them. With no apps,no userbase and a warehouse full of product,it was looking pretty grim. Maybe they could have made a go of it but more likely it wouldn't have been life support for a few years and then finally put out of its misery.
If HP still wants to be in the tablet market,Android would not be a bad way to go. In fact,dropping webos and releasing android for the touchpad would not have been too bad of idea rather than the firesale.
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Why would they consider anandroid tablet? Simple,webos was a complete and total failure they wasted over a billion dollars on. I'm not making a statement about the quality of the software. I'm personally less than impressed with it but that's not the point. Lets just assume its the most amazing OS ever made and makes both iOS and Android look like a Commodore Vic 20 in comparison. Honestly,its all opinion. Lets stick to facts. Best Buy ordered hundreds of thousands. They sold around 20,000 before the firesale. The facts are no one bought them and no one developed for them. With no apps,no userbase and a warehouse full of product,it was looking pretty grim. Maybe they could have made a go of it but more likely it wouldn't have been life support for a few years and then finally put out of its misery.
If HP still wants to be in the tablet market,Android would not be a bad way to go. In fact,dropping webos and releasing android for the touchpad would not have been too bad of idea rather than the firesale.
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Well they didn't, now they do have a large user base, a large development community, and none sitting in a warehouse, all thanks to the firesale.
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I have a HP Touchpad 4G in-hand and was wondering if there any devs out there who could use the codes from this rare version to make existing HP Touchpads any better?
This toucH pad is 4G made for ATT and also comes stock Dual 1.5 GHZ. Software on box says 3.0.1. I have not opened it yet.
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Hope you are aware that Moboot 0.3.4 is out, which support 4G - http://code.google.com/p/moboot/downloads/list
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If HP still wants to be in the tablet market,Android would not be a bad way to go. In fact,dropping webos and releasing android for the touchpad would not have been too bad of idea rather than the firesale.
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Windows 8 is where their tablet is heading...
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Windows 8 is where their tablet is heading...
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Actually, I just had r&d guy in HP tell me Window is where they are going with their new tablets.
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Hope you are aware that Moboot 0.3.4 is out, which support 4G - http://code.google.com/p/moboot/downloads/list
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Does this add 4G to ANY HP tablet? I wish I knew coding.....
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Does this add 4G to ANY HP tablet? I wish I knew coding.....
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no you can't do that.
You have to replace the entire motherboard of the touchpad..
ie The hardware is not present on the wifi tablets.
Gosh I hate threads like these, people talking out of their ass, people always know people and always have inside knowledge.
I'm not gonna lie, Once an ARM release for Windows 8 gets released, I will put it on the Prime ASAP. Why?
I have been following the Build of Windows 8 for some time. I must admit, I am whole-heartily impressed at the awesome features that are coming. The developer tools that Microsoft released will also make it easy for developers to port their apps to x86 and ARM. The marketplace will open up a store that half a billion people could potentially look at.
Windows is the behemoth of the computing age and they are charging directly into mobile computing. I choose Windows over Android because I want more than what Android has to offer.
I want good browsers, application support, enterprise support, and a desktop OS with Metro integration.
If you want to see why I am excited for Windows 8, don't listen to me!
Watch the first Keynote and you will be wowed at what's coming:
http://channel9.msdn.com/events/BUILD/BUILD2011/KEY-0001
Also, here is the Build Blog, where Microsoft is actually taking advice on creating Windows 8.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/
I hope everyone is as excited as I am for what's coming. Remember this: Even if you hate Windows-everything, you should be excited for it. Windows 8 will force Android and iOS to really push harder in creating a full-fledged mobile OS.
The Prime is the perfect tablet for both Android, and Windows 8.
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I'm not gonna lie, Once an ARM release for Windows 8 gets released, I will put it on the Prime ASAP. Why?
I have been following the Build of Windows 8 for some time. I must admit, I am whole-heartily impressed at the awesome features that are coming. The developer tools that Microsoft released will also make it easy for developers to port their apps to x86 and ARM. The marketplace will open up a store that half a billion people could potentially look at.
Windows is the behemoth of the computing age and they are charging directly into mobile computing. I choose Windows over Android because I want more than what Android has to offer.
I want good browsers, application support, enterprise support, and a desktop OS with Metro integration.
If you want to see why I am excited for Windows 8, don't listen to me!
Watch the first Keynote and you will be wowed at what's coming:
http://channel9.msdn.com/events/BUILD/BUILD2011/KEY-0001
Also, here is the Build Blog, where Microsoft is actually taking advice on creating Windows 8.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/
I hope everyone is as excited as I am for what's coming. Remember this: Even if you hate Windows-everything, you should be excited for it. Windows 8 will force Android and iOS to really push harder in creating a full-fledged mobile OS.
The Prime is the perfect tablet for both Android, and Windows 8.
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how much is it going to cost to buy windows 8 for the transformer? if its anything like the current windows, you will have to pay for upgrade and all that.
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how much is it going to cost to buy windows 8 for the transformer? if its anything like the current windows, you will have to pay for upgrade and all that.
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That's a good question. Just like every other Windows release out there, if you are too poor; Piracy is just too easy. But I don't think I will resort to that. Something I have noticed is the lack of mentioning toward different versions of Windows 8. If feels as if there will be the consumer, server edition, and ARM edition(?).
I don't know.
Why don't you just wait and get a Windows tablet, if you want a Windows tablet?
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Why don't you just wait and get a Windows tablet, if you want a Windows tablet?
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Because why wait? Windows 8 works great on the Tegra 3 chip! 1GB of RAM is plenty as Windows 8 uses less memory than Windows 7. Also, I love the Transformer. I'm sure Asus will release the Prime for Windows variant, but I love Android as well.
In my opinion Ms has missed the train and that they did it twice,the first one being when they left the WM unsupported and went to WP7 there by giving up the lead to the emreging OSs with a very big margin,and now another grave mistake will be if x86 apps will not run on the ARM version,which will need a couple of years to develop new ones,well I can imagine the IOS and android with there aliready big advantage where will they be by than!!.
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In my opinion Ms has missed the train and that they did it twice,the first one being when they left the WM unsupported and went to WP7 there by giving up the lead to the emreging OSs with a very big margin,and now another grave mistake will be if x86 apps will not run on the ARM version,which will need a couple of years to develop new ones,well I can imagine the IOS and android with there aliready big advantage where will they be by than!!.
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Microsoft is making a painful transition. They are working hard at porting their full Windows OS onto ARM. I believe they see that ARM architecture will be the future of low-power, high performance computing. They will certainly support Windows 8, but what they will struggle with is convincing all x86 developers supporting the Windows platform to port their applications over to ARM as well. It is not Microsoft's fault that ARM will not run x86 applications; it is a necessity and Microsoft cannot afford to wait much longer.
ive actually been thinking about this. i love android and wouldn't replace it on the prime for the world but would it be possible without breaking some laws? i remember when the hd2 got wp7 there was a few threads in the evo forum saying that since we have the same hardware can we get it to. and apparently it violated "warez" or something so we couldn't. so... if this does come to the prime then it would be sweet but idk if it ever will... (p.s. i could be wrong so if anyone has anything to correct me on then please feel free)
I'm definitely interested in dual booting later.. hopefully win installation will be viable in some way.
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ive actually been thinking about this. i love android and wouldn't replace it on the prime for the world but would it be possible without breaking some laws? i remember when the hd2 got wp7 there was a few threads in the evo forum saying that since we have the same hardware can we get it to. and apparently it violated "warez" or something so we couldn't. so... if this does come to the prime then it would be sweet but idk if it ever will... (p.s. i could be wrong so if anyone has anything to correct me on then please feel free)
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I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's the same case. WP7 is proprietary to Microsoft, which doesn't distribute it freely like Google does with Android. I also don't think consumers can buy a license for WP7 to put on any device, so if the phone doesn't come with it natively, it would be illegal to put it on a non-WP7 phone.
Windows 8, on the other hand, is purchasable buy consumers, so one could legally buy it and put it on whatever device they chose to.
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I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's the same case. WP7 is proprietary to Microsoft, which doesn't distribute it freely like Google does with Android. I also don't think consumers can buy a license for WP7 to put on any device, so if the phone doesn't come with it natively, it would be illegal to put it on a non-WP7 phone.
Windows 8, on the other hand, is purchasable buy consumers, so one could legally buy it and put it on whatever device they chose to.
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While i fail to see why you would WANT Windows 8, keep in mind that Microsoft may very well not release a purchasable version of Windows 8 ARM to consumers.
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While i fail to see why you would WANT Windows 8, keep in mind that Microsoft may very well not release a purchasable version of Windows 8 ARM to consumers.
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Yes, that's a very good point. But still, it was a legitimate answer to the question posed. But you're right that we shouldn't assume that Windows 8 will be purchasable.
Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
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Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
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Perhaps. Tegra 3 'Kal-El' is the flagship processor for Windows 8 ARM. I think installing Windows on the Prime will be quite easy as its hardware matches what Microsoft has been demonstrating. I think the hardest thing would be getting the Keyboard Dock functioning.
Tempie007 said:
Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
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Agree. Unbelievably "heavy developer effort"... add the fact that WinRT on ARM does NOT include the Win8 Desktop stack.
Consider the Microsoft developer effort to:
(1) Port Office and any(all) other applications to WinRT so it can be used on ARM - nothing Win7 nor WP7 will directly port to WinRT except maybe hello world and trivial apps. Without Office on the ARM tablet who cares.
(2) Port WinRT to the Windows Phone replacing WP7.
(3) Perform a COMPLETE UX rewrite of any required applications to Metro touch to run under WinRT on ARM.
(4) Build, support, maintain developer tools for all the above.
(5) A million other things.
Unless Microsoft has infinite resources, I do NOT think they will be competitive with Android nor Apple for years (if ever) in the mobile space. This comment usually causes Microsoft zealots much discomfort and denial.
Without Office-Touch Version on WinRT the WinRT platform will FAIL worse than WP7 is failing now. Office on Windows 7 touch is an abortion, e.g. Samsung XE700t1a with Windows 7. It is a catch-22 for Microsoft to make WinRT Office run on ARM platform because that may not generate the *required* Windows 8 Ultimate Home Premium Standard Business Suite Server license revenues.
So, today, Microsoft has not seriously accomplished anything competitive in the mobile spaces. In the future, there is infinite work to accomplish any logical road map but no road map has been announced. The Windows 8 Desktop and WinRT bits from BUILD (and after) are pre-Alpha stage.
In the meantime, Android merged tablet & phone OS to version 4.0, and Apple is also busy with hundreds of million mobile phone and tablet customers.
Waiting for Microsoft to finish something is a great suggestion, but version 1.0 is a huge risk too. Maybe waiting until version 3 of the Microsoft phone and tablet? LOL
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Perhaps. Tegra 3 'Kal-El' is the flagship processor for Windows 8 ARM. I think installing Windows on the Prime will be quite easy as its hardware matches what Microsoft has been demonstrating. I think the hardest thing would be getting the Keyboard Dock functioning.
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Nope, everything regarding drivers must be written, kernel, sound, video, wifi, 3G if data version...one tegra 3 machine does not mean another loads. They must be done for each machine. Oh, I forgot touchscreen also. You just can't load it..it must be developed for it.
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Nope, everything regarding drivers must be written, kernel, sound, video, wifi, 3G if data version...one tegra 3 machine does not mean another loads. They must be done for each machine. Oh, I forgot touchscreen also. You just can't load it..it must be developed for it.
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Yes. Windows 8 would most likely be an OEM-only OS. HOWEVER, The Eee Pad Transformer series will most likely have Windows 8 variants making this hell of a lot easier.
Not gonna like, the metro UI and thus WP7 can go die in a fire, and I mean a REALLY DEADLY one! The blocky TILE interface, with no respect for the ability to get lost in menu's/programs... really sad... I stopped helping friends/family with their WP7 devices after the second week they got them... thankfully most are on Android / Blackberry now... my hate is for the Metro UI, not necessarily the underlying CORE for Win8 and WP7 (the only hate that surpasses that which I have for the MetroUI is the iPhone OS/Software, because the iPhone 4/4S hardware is pretty premo)
However, to give you a counter balance for my above rant, I am currently running the Windows 8 Developer Preview on my desktop, as my ABSOLUTE HATE for Metro UI, it is indeed disabled, and no, that's NOT all there is to see in the Win8DP!
Besides MetroPOS, I love the rest of what they have done with Win8, AND to that effect I WILL be looking forward to DUAL booting (if possible), BUT only if some of the main programs I use see an ARM port since there will be no x86 emulation or back porting! Else the only thing that would even mildly interest me in Dual Booting is the bragging rights to say I have a desktop/laptop OS on a tablet...
So, to sum it up!:
Love Win8
Love DualBooting
Love Android
Love Transformer Prime
Love thought of Win8/Programs running on tablet device
HATE METROPOS (er i mean UI...)
i was thinking more on the line of having both android and windows 8 on the transformer with a dual boot option and when u boot up u pick ur poison
Further to my previous comment, I have been thinking about this, and I think if the opportunity to Dual-Boot came along, I would go for it.
Purely for a full Microsoft Office suite on the Tablet. Then I could leave my laptop at home and take my tablet only!
Whether it is official our through xda. Planning on getting the prime or zenbook for a college laptop and I need the Microsoft office apps for productivity.
None or very small because arm version of windows 8 is only given for manufacturers so you can't just go to some store and buy it
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Well, then I guess I'm going with the ultrabook. Thanks for the quick reply!
also note that win8 on the prime would have to be ARM, your x86 apps like microsoft office or your PC games wont run on the ARM processors. There are, however, some very good android editors, might be worth checking out your bound to find something that has the features you want.
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also note that win8 on the prime would have to be ARM, your x86 apps like microsoft office or your PC games wont run on the ARM processors. There are, however, some very good android editors, might be worth checking out your bound to find something that has the features you want.
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Well, if Microsoft is bringing Win8 to ARM, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't bring Microsoft Office :/ That's why I was wondering if the the Prime would ever get Win8.
If you will be using Excel, ppt, and Word heavily, I don't think you would be satisfied working on the 10 inch screen. Also,a bit of an aside, if working in front of a computer on papers etc it is more comfortable to have decent ergonomics, which means getting a bluetooth keyboard and placing the screen at eye level.
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Forgot to mention VPN is an option to use office on your TFP if you have a Windows box at home or your school can provide it. Check other threads for keyboard compatibility.
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If you will be using Excel, ppt, and Word heavily, I don't think you would be satisfied working on the 10 inch screen. Also,a bit of an aside, if working in front of a computer on papers etc it is more comfortable to have decent ergonomics, which means getting a bluetooth keyboard and placing the screen at eye level.
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Forgot to mention VPN is an option to use office on your TFP if you have a Windows box at home or your school can provide it. Check other threads for keyboard compatibility.
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Well I don't mind the ergonomics that much because I have used a 10 in NetBook for awhile, but the software in Android that can be used for Office productivity isn't that good :/
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Well I don't mind the ergonomics that much because I have used a 10 in NetBook for awhile, but the software in Android that can be used for Office productivity isn't that good :/
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I'm actually rather impressed with QuickOffice HD and their newest update for Android. (which was actually just bought by Google too, we'll see where that goes.) But the software is very good. Built in real time spell check, editing, almost perfect.
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Well, if Microsoft is bringing Win8 to ARM, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't bring Microsoft Office :/ That's why I was wondering if the the Prime would ever get Win8.
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Office for ARM comes bundled with WinRT!
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I'm actually rather impressed with QuickOffice HD and their newest update for Android. (which was actually just bought by Google too, we'll see where that goes.) But the software is very good. Built in real time spell check, editing, almost perfect.
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Is it good enough for some hardcore office productivity since it will be my college "laptop"?
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Office for ARM comes bundled with WinRT!
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Yeah, but the previous post have stated that the chance that Windows will come to the Prime will be very low... :/
I have been using my prime at school for about a month now... Went through 5 or 6 word editing programs before i decided on one i really liked the features. If i want to do something more hardcore with "real" office i just go to the library, for everything else my prime works wonderful.
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Is it good enough for some hardcore office productivity since it will be my college "laptop"?
Yeah, but the previous post have stated that the chance that Windows will come to the Prime will be very low... :/
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I think it's pretty damn good. If you're talking about doing papers or normal typing it's excellent. However, if you're going to be doing a computer specific class, like a Microsoft one, you're obviously going to need a netbook for the full suite. Or you could just go to the library, etc. It's up to you. If that's the only device you can afford (either laptop or tablet) get a laptop. Don't get a netbook though. BestBuy, Amazon, woot.com , and 1saleaday.com frequently have excellent sales on laptops. Check there.
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I think it's pretty damn good. If you're talking about doing papers or normal typing it's excellent. However, if you're going to be doing a computer specific class, like a Microsoft one, you're obviously going to need a netbook for the full suite. Or you could just go to the library, etc. It's up to you. If that's the only device you can afford (either laptop or tablet) get a laptop. Don't get a netbook though. BestBuy, Amazon, woot.com , and 1saleaday.com frequently have excellent sales on laptops. Check there.
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Well I'm a computer engineering major, I will eventually need windows for compiling software. I'm choosing between the prime and an ultrabook, so I guess I would go with the ultrabook?
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Well I'm a computer engineering major, do I will eventually need windows for compiling software. I'm choosing between the prime and an ultrabook, so I guess I would go with the ultrabook?
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Yes. Ultrabook would be the way to go.
Microsoft Office coming to android in November if that's what your intrested in.
I think this is iPad and Transformer Prime killer....tablet with ultra light removable keyboard builded in stk like "smart cover".
http://www.youtube.com/user/surface?feature=results_main
It includes 2x USB ports natively not sure how they squeezed those but Bravo Microsoft. There is Zero use for an iPad at this point and its expensive add-ons, its dead.
Windows RT model: 676 g, 9.3 mm, 10.6" ClearType HD Display, 31.5 W-h, microSD, USB 2.0, Micro HD Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae, 32 GB or 64 GB.
Windows 8 Pro: 903 g, 13.5 mm, 10.6" ClearType Full HD Display, 42 W-h, microSDXC, USB 3.0, Mini DisplayPort Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae, 64 GB or 128 GB.
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Wow amazing commercial, don't know if its a killer but still, fantastic advertising
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I don't know if it will kill the ipad, I hope it will bring serious competition to it tho.
I've been using 8, and I absolutely dig it. I think software wise the pieces are falling into place for windows 8 to be more of a success than people expect. With the tie in with all the content options you will have that MS provides with XBOX. The thing that they are bringing to the table that android hasn't is content.
Let me clarify we do have play but compared to what itunes offers, android lacks. Android tab makers don't seem to see past initial purchase, they seem to just want to sell you another tablet. If there were more content available then android tabs would be continuous streams of revenue.
As far as killing the prime, and as much as I love my Prime I think it kinna "fell on the sword" right after release.
The Microsoft hardware looks brilliant. I have been thoroughly disappointed with Microsoft's mobile offerings to-date. They just never seemed to "get it". I would love it if they finally got it right, but I am skeptical.
The hardware looks amazing. I'm not sold on Windows yet, I just wish there was an Android tablet that had hardware with as much quality and thought put into it as the iPad and seemingly the Surface.
The only reason why i bought prime (first tablet) was to tide over 2012, and wait for win8 tablets to become more affordable.
now that Microsoft is in the game gives me goose bumps...
i will not repeat the mistake i made with prime... will wait for the dust to settle in.
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I look forward to replacing my Prime with the Pro model of the Surface tablet.
Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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Nokia?
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That looks pretty cool.. As a few people have said, MS have never really got the mobile bit right.. But we will see!
Cool commercial... Dunno about ipad/prime killer. The magnetic cover looks cool, but I wonder how it will type/sit on your lap for example.
Also, we'll first have to wait for it to actually be available and who knows what kind of other tablets will be out by then.
It's not going to kill anything, maybe apart from MS. (allthough I highly doubt that too).
Unless MS changes their licensing deal, OEMs have to pay too much for win8 making this tablet way too expensive.
Regular customers will not buy it at 400 euro's or more. The even more expensive one, with the ivy bridge chip might hit it big in the corporate section, but I doubt the "big bucks" are made there, in terms of repeating customers and sales of for instance software due too an hugh marketshare.
Maybe in a year or two, when win8 has more marketshare and more people know about the product it might make an impact, but not this specific tablet. (allthough it does look nice). But then again, what do we really know of these tablets? What is the batterylife in real life, what wil be the prices?
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Wow amazing commercial, don't know if its a killer but still, fantastic advertising
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When the Prime was announced, we all said it was a Killer!
The only ones who got killed were the customers and ASUS reputation as quality brand.
Chill out with expectations, when has MS released a product, that was a killer?
Well, They are talking price range on the good one of about $1,000. So it will be going head to head with ultrabooks. So for twice the price a year from now it had best be better!
The last time I saw a keyboard like this was on ZX81.
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Let's hope not. I think it was a terrible mistake on Google's part to partner with Asus on the Nexus tablet.
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I honestly think that the Surface (and other Windows 8 tablets) will be an Android Tablet killer. MS will probably never make the inroad they need in the phone market, but they have a golden opportunity in tablets. Just think of the myriad of MS fans that have picked up an Android product (like the TFP) just because it is not an iPad. It could, in turn lead to Windows 8 phone sales increases, though, if the Surface (and other Windows 8 tabs) are a success.
I speak from experience as I have purchased now 5 Android tablets searching for the "one". Let me tell you, I haven't found it (though, I have to say the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 is as close as I have gotten thus far).
We also know that MS, like Google, has a road map that is paved with mis-steps (like the Zune - though my Zune 80GB is my favorite MP3) so yes, they still have time to screw this all up!
More and more manufacturers are going to make products like the TFP that actually work - I guess you can say that they will learn from Asus' mistakes.
Exciting tech times we live in! I am not a fanboi of any one OS or manufacturer, so really exciting for me!
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I honestly think that the Surface (and other Windows 8 tablets) will be an Android Tablet killer. MS will probably never make the inroad they need in the phone market, but they have a golden opportunity in tablets.
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The problem is that the boundary between them will blur a lot. It's not clear that tablets by themselves will be a sustainable market. I rather suspect that what will eventually happen is that you'll carry around a core that acts as a phone, but plug it into 'docks' that add things like larger screens, input like keyboards, and so forth. (And, if wireless keeps moving along, maybe not even 'plug in'.)
I will say that I've been a Linux partisan for a while, but I do give MS credit for making solid hardware. There's a reason their mice and keyboards are still popular. From a hardware perspective, this new tablet does look solid and well-thought-out. (Including an actual kickstand? Why isn't that standard on tablets?) I don't have enough experience with Windows 8 to say if the software will really work. The problem is, Microsoft has a history of trouble sealing the deal. (Anyone remember the Zune?)
And I have to say that I'm not as down on the TF201 as some here. My wife surprised me with one (fifteenth anniversary and all), and I've been enjoying it. No, it is not a complete laptop replacement. But - aside from slow and quirky file management - it's been working well for me, and the battery life is delicious.
Maybe a few years down the road I'll buy whatever the 3rd-generation Microsoft tablet is. But for now the advantages aren't enough to make me switch from the TF201.
What I'm expecting:
- Terrible battery life on Pro
- Very high price
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Let's hope not. I think it was a terrible mistake on Google's part to partner with Asus on the Nexus tablet.
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I've been thinking about this as well. I really think that choice may come back to bite Google in the ass.
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Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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according to zdnet, MS is going the Apple route and making it themselves....
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/with-surface-tablet-microsoft-breaks-tradition/12957