Whether it is official our through xda. Planning on getting the prime or zenbook for a college laptop and I need the Microsoft office apps for productivity.
None or very small because arm version of windows 8 is only given for manufacturers so you can't just go to some store and buy it
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Well, then I guess I'm going with the ultrabook. Thanks for the quick reply!
also note that win8 on the prime would have to be ARM, your x86 apps like microsoft office or your PC games wont run on the ARM processors. There are, however, some very good android editors, might be worth checking out your bound to find something that has the features you want.
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also note that win8 on the prime would have to be ARM, your x86 apps like microsoft office or your PC games wont run on the ARM processors. There are, however, some very good android editors, might be worth checking out your bound to find something that has the features you want.
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Well, if Microsoft is bringing Win8 to ARM, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't bring Microsoft Office :/ That's why I was wondering if the the Prime would ever get Win8.
If you will be using Excel, ppt, and Word heavily, I don't think you would be satisfied working on the 10 inch screen. Also,a bit of an aside, if working in front of a computer on papers etc it is more comfortable to have decent ergonomics, which means getting a bluetooth keyboard and placing the screen at eye level.
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Forgot to mention VPN is an option to use office on your TFP if you have a Windows box at home or your school can provide it. Check other threads for keyboard compatibility.
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If you will be using Excel, ppt, and Word heavily, I don't think you would be satisfied working on the 10 inch screen. Also,a bit of an aside, if working in front of a computer on papers etc it is more comfortable to have decent ergonomics, which means getting a bluetooth keyboard and placing the screen at eye level.
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Forgot to mention VPN is an option to use office on your TFP if you have a Windows box at home or your school can provide it. Check other threads for keyboard compatibility.
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Well I don't mind the ergonomics that much because I have used a 10 in NetBook for awhile, but the software in Android that can be used for Office productivity isn't that good :/
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Well I don't mind the ergonomics that much because I have used a 10 in NetBook for awhile, but the software in Android that can be used for Office productivity isn't that good :/
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I'm actually rather impressed with QuickOffice HD and their newest update for Android. (which was actually just bought by Google too, we'll see where that goes.) But the software is very good. Built in real time spell check, editing, almost perfect.
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Well, if Microsoft is bringing Win8 to ARM, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't bring Microsoft Office :/ That's why I was wondering if the the Prime would ever get Win8.
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Office for ARM comes bundled with WinRT!
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I'm actually rather impressed with QuickOffice HD and their newest update for Android. (which was actually just bought by Google too, we'll see where that goes.) But the software is very good. Built in real time spell check, editing, almost perfect.
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Is it good enough for some hardcore office productivity since it will be my college "laptop"?
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Office for ARM comes bundled with WinRT!
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Yeah, but the previous post have stated that the chance that Windows will come to the Prime will be very low... :/
I have been using my prime at school for about a month now... Went through 5 or 6 word editing programs before i decided on one i really liked the features. If i want to do something more hardcore with "real" office i just go to the library, for everything else my prime works wonderful.
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Is it good enough for some hardcore office productivity since it will be my college "laptop"?
Yeah, but the previous post have stated that the chance that Windows will come to the Prime will be very low... :/
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I think it's pretty damn good. If you're talking about doing papers or normal typing it's excellent. However, if you're going to be doing a computer specific class, like a Microsoft one, you're obviously going to need a netbook for the full suite. Or you could just go to the library, etc. It's up to you. If that's the only device you can afford (either laptop or tablet) get a laptop. Don't get a netbook though. BestBuy, Amazon, woot.com , and 1saleaday.com frequently have excellent sales on laptops. Check there.
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I think it's pretty damn good. If you're talking about doing papers or normal typing it's excellent. However, if you're going to be doing a computer specific class, like a Microsoft one, you're obviously going to need a netbook for the full suite. Or you could just go to the library, etc. It's up to you. If that's the only device you can afford (either laptop or tablet) get a laptop. Don't get a netbook though. BestBuy, Amazon, woot.com , and 1saleaday.com frequently have excellent sales on laptops. Check there.
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Well I'm a computer engineering major, I will eventually need windows for compiling software. I'm choosing between the prime and an ultrabook, so I guess I would go with the ultrabook?
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Well I'm a computer engineering major, do I will eventually need windows for compiling software. I'm choosing between the prime and an ultrabook, so I guess I would go with the ultrabook?
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Yes. Ultrabook would be the way to go.
Microsoft Office coming to android in November if that's what your intrested in.
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Good news for the Friends of the latest ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime, because from March will be a UMTS version hit the market, which is also equipped with a more powerful GPS module. ASUS is responding to the continuing complaints relating to the relatively weak performance of the receiver currently installed GPS.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/07/asus-windows-8-tablet-promised/
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Still worth getting an ASUS Transformer Prime now?
hopefully the windows 8 tablet they release is similar enough hardware wise to the prime that we can easily port it.
Man wouldn't that be nice!
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Why would they ruin a perfectly good tablet with windows 8
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Why would they ruin a perfectly good tablet with windows 8
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so I can install steam and play all my windows games I would love to play and can't!
I don't need gps or mobile data, so to me it's worth it to me now. Good news win8
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so I can install steam and play all my windows games I would love to play and can't!
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Not sure if your being sarcastic, but it will be an arm processor.
None of the current windows apps will work on Windows 8 Tablets.
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hopefully the windows 8 tablet they release is similar enough hardware wise to the prime that we can easily port it.
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it will be. supposedly using Tegra3 also last time I heard. so "should" be no issue porting it. if not tegra3 maybe a lil less powerful ARM. either way, we can handle it.
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Not sure if your being sarcastic, but it will be an arm processor.
None of the current windows apps will work on Windows 8 Tablets.
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Are you trying to say every piece of software that runs on windows machines right now will not run on windows 8? I have a very hard time believing that.
edit: nevermind that just did the research you are right and I cannot believe they would go that direction that is unbelievable.
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Are you trying to say every piece of software that runs on windows machines right now will not run on windows 8? I have a very hard time believing that.
edit: nevermind that just did the research you are right and I cannot believe they would go that direction that is unbelievable.
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It is the only direction to go, unless they release a prime with a x86 processor. Its not a choice but a fact of life.
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Ill be honest. I don't understand the hype. Windows 8 for ARM is not compatible with the x86 varient so no apps will work unless it is specifically ported to work on the arm processor. Beyond that what is Microsoft bringing to te table that Android doesn't have? Office?
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Compiling your x86 project to support ARM in Visual Studio will be VERY easy. Devs who care to support tablets can do so with almost no effort. It's a pretty big deal.
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Are you trying to say every piece of software that runs on windows machines right now will not run on windows 8? I have a very hard time believing that.
edit: nevermind that just did the research you are right and I cannot believe they would go that direction that is unbelievable.
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I lol'd...hard.
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Compiling your x86 project to support ARM in Visual Studio will be VERY easy. Devs who care to support tablets can do so with almost no effort. It's a pretty big deal.
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This is what I have heard as well. Legacy software won't work out the gate, but going forward it shouldn't be too hard for devs to make software work on both.
Obviously if this is the case, windows 8 will quickly become very hard to ignore in the tablet arena. Hell even if they get fully functioning office software on it (which hopefully will be one of the first things they port in), that alone will be a huge incentive for many people to switch.
I guess we all forgot about the switch apple made from ibm to intel!
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Still worth getting an ASUS Transformer Prime now?
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It depends on the person and what they are looking for.
Your question can be applied to any piece of technology that has ever been made(or will be) since there will always be a "latest and greatest" product coming around the corner in 3 months.....6 months...9 months...etc.....especially in the tablet arena.
If a person held out for the next greatest thing they would never own want they desire.
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It depends on the person and what they are looking for.
Your question can be applied to any piece of technology that has ever been made(or will be) since there will always be a "latest and greatest" product coming around the corner in 3 months.....6 months...9 months...etc.....especially in the tablet arena.
If a person held out for the next greatest thing they would never own want they desire.
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I must say if they slapped on a higher price for the 3G version which there probably will be it wouldn't be as appealing. I'm like most a WiFi only version is perfect for my needs however functional GPS would be good.
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those that want to see Windows on their Transformer Prime just download and install Splashtop HD from the market. This little $10 app makes the hype of Windows 8 in any variant seem like a waste.
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those that want to see Windows on their Transformer Prime just download and install Splashtop HD from the market. This little $10 app makes the hype of Windows 8 in any variant seem like a waste.
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Splashtop HD comes free inside the cloud app.
Windows 8 on tablets will be in the "Metro" interface not the normal windowed mode on desktops and laptops.
Frankly I think Microsoft is way too late, just like their phones being way too late to market.
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from what I heard microsoft has suggested if you want to have your legacy app on metro you should start from scratch, as a direct port is doable but not easy
but maybe I heard wrong
I think this is iPad and Transformer Prime killer....tablet with ultra light removable keyboard builded in stk like "smart cover".
http://www.youtube.com/user/surface?feature=results_main
It includes 2x USB ports natively not sure how they squeezed those but Bravo Microsoft. There is Zero use for an iPad at this point and its expensive add-ons, its dead.
Windows RT model: 676 g, 9.3 mm, 10.6" ClearType HD Display, 31.5 W-h, microSD, USB 2.0, Micro HD Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae, 32 GB or 64 GB.
Windows 8 Pro: 903 g, 13.5 mm, 10.6" ClearType Full HD Display, 42 W-h, microSDXC, USB 3.0, Mini DisplayPort Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae, 64 GB or 128 GB.
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Wow amazing commercial, don't know if its a killer but still, fantastic advertising
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I don't know if it will kill the ipad, I hope it will bring serious competition to it tho.
I've been using 8, and I absolutely dig it. I think software wise the pieces are falling into place for windows 8 to be more of a success than people expect. With the tie in with all the content options you will have that MS provides with XBOX. The thing that they are bringing to the table that android hasn't is content.
Let me clarify we do have play but compared to what itunes offers, android lacks. Android tab makers don't seem to see past initial purchase, they seem to just want to sell you another tablet. If there were more content available then android tabs would be continuous streams of revenue.
As far as killing the prime, and as much as I love my Prime I think it kinna "fell on the sword" right after release.
The Microsoft hardware looks brilliant. I have been thoroughly disappointed with Microsoft's mobile offerings to-date. They just never seemed to "get it". I would love it if they finally got it right, but I am skeptical.
The hardware looks amazing. I'm not sold on Windows yet, I just wish there was an Android tablet that had hardware with as much quality and thought put into it as the iPad and seemingly the Surface.
The only reason why i bought prime (first tablet) was to tide over 2012, and wait for win8 tablets to become more affordable.
now that Microsoft is in the game gives me goose bumps...
i will not repeat the mistake i made with prime... will wait for the dust to settle in.
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I look forward to replacing my Prime with the Pro model of the Surface tablet.
Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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Nokia?
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That looks pretty cool.. As a few people have said, MS have never really got the mobile bit right.. But we will see!
Cool commercial... Dunno about ipad/prime killer. The magnetic cover looks cool, but I wonder how it will type/sit on your lap for example.
Also, we'll first have to wait for it to actually be available and who knows what kind of other tablets will be out by then.
It's not going to kill anything, maybe apart from MS. (allthough I highly doubt that too).
Unless MS changes their licensing deal, OEMs have to pay too much for win8 making this tablet way too expensive.
Regular customers will not buy it at 400 euro's or more. The even more expensive one, with the ivy bridge chip might hit it big in the corporate section, but I doubt the "big bucks" are made there, in terms of repeating customers and sales of for instance software due too an hugh marketshare.
Maybe in a year or two, when win8 has more marketshare and more people know about the product it might make an impact, but not this specific tablet. (allthough it does look nice). But then again, what do we really know of these tablets? What is the batterylife in real life, what wil be the prices?
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Wow amazing commercial, don't know if its a killer but still, fantastic advertising
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When the Prime was announced, we all said it was a Killer!
The only ones who got killed were the customers and ASUS reputation as quality brand.
Chill out with expectations, when has MS released a product, that was a killer?
Well, They are talking price range on the good one of about $1,000. So it will be going head to head with ultrabooks. So for twice the price a year from now it had best be better!
The last time I saw a keyboard like this was on ZX81.
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Let's hope not. I think it was a terrible mistake on Google's part to partner with Asus on the Nexus tablet.
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I honestly think that the Surface (and other Windows 8 tablets) will be an Android Tablet killer. MS will probably never make the inroad they need in the phone market, but they have a golden opportunity in tablets. Just think of the myriad of MS fans that have picked up an Android product (like the TFP) just because it is not an iPad. It could, in turn lead to Windows 8 phone sales increases, though, if the Surface (and other Windows 8 tabs) are a success.
I speak from experience as I have purchased now 5 Android tablets searching for the "one". Let me tell you, I haven't found it (though, I have to say the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 is as close as I have gotten thus far).
We also know that MS, like Google, has a road map that is paved with mis-steps (like the Zune - though my Zune 80GB is my favorite MP3) so yes, they still have time to screw this all up!
More and more manufacturers are going to make products like the TFP that actually work - I guess you can say that they will learn from Asus' mistakes.
Exciting tech times we live in! I am not a fanboi of any one OS or manufacturer, so really exciting for me!
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I honestly think that the Surface (and other Windows 8 tablets) will be an Android Tablet killer. MS will probably never make the inroad they need in the phone market, but they have a golden opportunity in tablets.
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The problem is that the boundary between them will blur a lot. It's not clear that tablets by themselves will be a sustainable market. I rather suspect that what will eventually happen is that you'll carry around a core that acts as a phone, but plug it into 'docks' that add things like larger screens, input like keyboards, and so forth. (And, if wireless keeps moving along, maybe not even 'plug in'.)
I will say that I've been a Linux partisan for a while, but I do give MS credit for making solid hardware. There's a reason their mice and keyboards are still popular. From a hardware perspective, this new tablet does look solid and well-thought-out. (Including an actual kickstand? Why isn't that standard on tablets?) I don't have enough experience with Windows 8 to say if the software will really work. The problem is, Microsoft has a history of trouble sealing the deal. (Anyone remember the Zune?)
And I have to say that I'm not as down on the TF201 as some here. My wife surprised me with one (fifteenth anniversary and all), and I've been enjoying it. No, it is not a complete laptop replacement. But - aside from slow and quirky file management - it's been working well for me, and the battery life is delicious.
Maybe a few years down the road I'll buy whatever the 3rd-generation Microsoft tablet is. But for now the advantages aren't enough to make me switch from the TF201.
What I'm expecting:
- Terrible battery life on Pro
- Very high price
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Let's hope not. I think it was a terrible mistake on Google's part to partner with Asus on the Nexus tablet.
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I've been thinking about this as well. I really think that choice may come back to bite Google in the ass.
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Anybody know who's "making" it for them? Hope it's not Asus
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according to zdnet, MS is going the Apple route and making it themselves....
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/with-surface-tablet-microsoft-breaks-tradition/12957
I do not know if you guys already know, but until recently did not have such access, but now within the hotmail skydrive, you guys can create and edit office documents like the windows, although with some restrictions ... however I still think the best king polaris office and office, as relates to tools.
I hope you guys have helped
(using chrome beta)
Best office app i've seen is the Softmaker Textmaker mobile beta.
It has almost everything MS office has. Also adanced features like syllabification/correction test. Also it has full keyboard support with copy/paste and selecting text is really easy. The only thing missing is thesaurus but there are enough synonym apps to replace even that.
The best thing: Its still free at the moment as its in final beta status.
google it if you wanna try
microsoft surface....is now very intriguing with regards to this type of situation. may have to abandon the prime
rogerchew said:
microsoft surface....is now very intriguing with regards to this type of situation. may have to abandon the prime
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or someone to develop a dualboot can run for prime windows 8, the surface normal also uses tegra3
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microsoft surface....is now very intriguing with regards to this type of situation. may have to abandon the prime
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I dont think the keyboard is anywhere near the quality of the prime^^ I'd rather buy a Transformer style pad from Asus with win8 instead of MS surface...
TFP is currently the best Tablet keyboard combo that I can sit on the plane with the thing on my lap and type..
that alone will make me stick to the prime, for now.. The office apps for Android about the same for me.. if you really need to work on big spreadsheets nothing really compares to a 20+ inch screen and a proper keyboard.
Or you could just use the "cloud on" app as that is office!
clouds5 said:
Best office app i've seen is the Softmaker Textmaker mobile beta.
It has almost everything MS office has. Also adanced features like syllabification/correction test. Also it has full keyboard support with copy/paste and selecting text is really easy. The only thing missing is thesaurus but there are enough synonym apps to replace even that.
The best thing: Its still free at the moment as its in final beta status.
google it if you wanna try
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Great advice man, Softmaker Textmaker mobile is just amazing, any idea when they will start selling it ? Wouldn't Microsoft release Office for android in october ? and Official Ubuntu, wouldnt it be also released in October, I mean Ubuntu=Open office .
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I use Officesuite pro, it supports google drive (cloud). works perfect on the TFP.
cloud on offers the best office experience imho
i've found "cloud on" very usefull.. so.. (after registration at the service) this will be definitely the best office-like program..
Office Suite Pro is on sale right now for $1
I've haven't used it much yet, but seems pretty good
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Best office app i've seen is the Softmaker Textmaker mobile beta.
It has almost everything MS office has. Also adanced features like syllabification/correction test. Also it has full keyboard support with copy/paste and selecting text is really easy. The only thing missing is thesaurus but there are enough synonym apps to replace even that.
The best thing: Its still free at the moment as its in final beta status.
google it if you wanna try
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I downloaded the file. Any tips on installation?
Edit: Found the .apk. This is the website if anyone's interested: http://www.softmaker.com/english/download_en.htm
It's not playing nice with my Prime atm. Getting screen artifacts or something on the left side when opening it up. Going to download again.
When checking the comparison page to the other apps, this looks amazing.
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I downloaded the file. Any tips on installation?
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Make sure you have 'Unknown Sources' under security settings checked to enable installation of non Play Store apps.
Then simple tap the downloaded apk in the file manager and it will prompt to install.
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Great advice man, Softmaker Textmaker mobile is just amazing, any idea when they will start selling it ? Wouldn't Microsoft release Office for android in october ? and Official Ubuntu, wouldnt it be also released in October, I mean Ubuntu=Open office .
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The last email i got said something like "final beta version" so i guess its rather sooner than later
My download for the free beta version ends the 2nd week in July.
Kingsoft Office. Free. All basics are here for ppt(x), xls(x), doc(x).
I have tried all the office style apps that are available so far on android as I was hoping to have a replacement for office when I am traveling. Polaris office is one of the best but I have had some issues saving with my external SD card and kept losing my work.
I have started using softmaker office and other than not being as smooth for two finger zooming, the features are well above anything else available at the moment.
It is now in 5th beta so imagine it will come out pretty soon. I just wish there was an email system that could handle pstx files and I would be complete
Office apps for prime
I can highly recommend Cloud on. I tried various options, and cloud on is by far the slickest - I also agree that using spreadsheets on anything less than a 20 inch screen is a nightmare.
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I can highly recommend Cloud on. I tried various options, and cloud on is by far the slickest - I also agree that using spreadsheets on anything less than a 20 inch screen is a nightmare.
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Typically not available in Australia. Looks good though!
Gilbo12 said:
Typically not available in Australia. Looks good though!
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It appears it's only available on the ipad in the US.
This is a great video about the design and thoughts behind the Nexus 4 & 10. At 09:20 onwards you can see the official cover for the Nexus 10.
http://goo.gl/p6Qbf
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i really like it. i think what they are doing is in the right track.. i dont have any tablets yet so easily this will have to take my money
Yep. I've actually been wondering whether I would be better off with a Nexus 7, but come to think of it since I carry a tablet as a replacement for a laptop I'll just use my phone when I need a smaller, lighter screen for in bed or whatever.
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Yep. I've actually been wondering whether I would be better off with a Nexus 7, but come to think of it since I carry a tablet as a replacement for a laptop I'll just use my phone when I need a smaller, lighter screen for in bed or whatever.
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Yeah, know what you mean....I said I wasn't going to get a tablet (i'm in college don't want/need to spend the money) , howeverrr I would much rather carry this around instead of my 15" Gateway laptop. An OTG cable and flashdrive i'm set with storage + cloud/wifi. The only thing is I wish there would be a microUSB slot. :-I The price wants me to forget that though...haha
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Yeah, know what you mean....I said I wasn't going to get a tablet (i'm in college don't want/need to spend the money) , howeverrr I would much rather carry this around instead of my 15" Gateway laptop. An OTG cable and flashdrive i'm set with storage + cloud/wifi. The only thing is I wish there would be a microUSB slot. :-I The price wants me to forget that though...haha
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tablet can't replace a laptop yet...
I mostly use a tablet for surfing, read comic and documents lol
rookiegenius said:
tablet can't replace a laptop yet...
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Depends largely on what you need laptop for when you go outside with it. If for browsing - tablets are even better than laptops at it. My laptop haven't left home since I bought my first tablet.
I wonder is this has a big update to Chrome, as rumoured?
@rookiegenius Personally, a tablet with a physical keyboard will do what I need for school.
I know what you mean..but the big thing is the battery would probably last 2-3 times what my laptop would.
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tablet can't replace a laptop yet...
I mostly use a tablet for surfing, read comic and documents lol
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Which is precisely what I use a laptop for... there isn't much else to do on a laptop, really, unless you want to pay an extortionate price for a laptop that doesn't suck. Fo a lot of things that can only be done right now on a laptop, it's just down to the company that makes the program not having clocked on to the huge mobile market... for example, the tablet version of Photoshop can do a surprising amount of stuff. You also have AIDE for app developing, and there's probably a HTML/PHP/etc editor out there on Play somewhere, I haven't really looked. The main apps that don't exist in any real substantial form are 3d modelling, video and music/sound editing software (anyone think Blender might hit ARM?). Otherwise you're all good to chuck out the laptop for a tablet. The convenience far outweighs the losses, IMO.
Oh, and there isn't a real decent office suite, but Google ought to be working on it with Drive.
I think something like the Surface Pro could easily replace a laptop in all categories. The only problem is the premium laptop price that comes with it. Google has really stepped it up with the new Nexus devices though.
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I think something like the Surface Pro could easily replace a laptop in all categories. The only problem is the premium laptop price that comes with it. Google has really stepped it up with the new Nexus devices though.
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Yeah, I mean a tablet can't replace a laptop until it has a fully functional fan, right?
But really, there is no room for mechanical parts in this digital era. The Pro sounds awkward in just about every way as far as portability goes. I don't really like the idea of an x86 tablet either, I think it's just Intel desperately clinging on to their business. All we need are ARM apps which do what we're missing from x86.
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As a sys admin and developer I use Unix/Linux at work. Android is Linux and with some proper apps and utils installed, I have a full shell command line. I can connect to the corporate network and having shell I'm able to perform a lot of daily tasks with my GalaxyTab. No need to carry my notebook all the time. I'm going to order N10/32G (screen resolution plus performance) and hope, a docking station with a usable keyboard will be available soon
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I doubt you will see something like that, except in the unlikely event that this thing takes off and gets loads of custom made accessories. You'll probably have to prop it against a wall and use Bluetooth.
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Kookas said:
I doubt you will see something like that, except in the unlikely event that this thing takes off and gets loads of custom made accessories. You'll probably have to prop it against a wall and use Bluetooth.
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Yes, bluetooth is an alternative. I use b-t keyboard with my current tablet, but don't like the battery drain. On-screen keyboard covers too much, so maybe with the higher resolution will be also acceptable.
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How much is the total Video time on Nexus 10?
I'm curious to hear other Nexus 10 owner's observations on the Chromebook. Do you think it's in the same league with the Nexus or am I just comparing 'apples to oranges'?
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randun said:
I'm curious to hear other Nexus 10 owner's observations on the Chromebook. Do you think it's in the same league with the Nexus or am I just comparing 'apples to oranges'?
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Apples to oranges honestly. Chrome books are typically very cheap netbooks with very limited software and hardware. Sort of a very cheap version of a macbook air without the form factor, slimness or software. The one time I used it I was amazed at how limited you are.
The chrome book pixel on the other hand is the single sexiest bit of industrial engineering I have ever seen. Unfortunately its still running that chrome OS. Honestly, I can see paying $250 for a chrome book even with how limited it is because its so affordable. The pixel on the other hand I can't see being worth it at all. As beautifully crafted as it is, the OS is just too limited to be worth the $1200. If it was running something like Mac OS or Windows 8 (touch input) I could see myself wanting one.
Hell I have both. Its not a computer replacement but it depends what your looking to get out of it. If your primary concern is work I'd say chrome book if you are using it for play then N10 hands down. It is apples to oranges but they're both great devices
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NickTheMajin said:
Apples to oranges honestly. Chrome books are typically very cheap netbooks with very limited software and hardware. Sort of a very cheap version of a macbook air without the form factor, slimness or software. The one time I used it I was amazed at how limited you are.
The chrome book pixel on the other hand is the single sexiest bit of industrial engineering I have ever seen. Unfortunately its still running that chrome OS. Honestly, I can see paying $250 for a chrome book even with how limited it is because its so affordable. The pixel on the other hand I can't see being worth it at all. As beautifully crafted as it is, the OS is just too limited to be worth the $1200. If it was running something like Mac OS or Windows 8 (touch input) I could see myself wanting one.
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Thanks for the very informative response.
I've had my 10 for a couple of months now & have yet to find a decent keyboard so I can use it as a semi-replacement for my laptop. I just want to use it to access files on my network occasionally to edit, etc, but not lose the tablet experience, if you will.
I purchased the Nexus at Staples & I have the option of returning it, no questions asked, if I chose to do so.
Bottom line, based on what you've described, it sounds like the CB is much more limited than the Nexus in terms of usability, correct?
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enik_fox said:
Hell I have both. Its not a computer replacement but it depends what your looking to get out of it. If your primary concern is work I'd say chrome book if you are using it for play then N10 hands down. It is apples to oranges but they're both great devices
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Please see my response to "NickTheMajin". I'm not looking for a total laptop replacement; just a nice tablet/laptop hybrid but not for all of the things one might get in a fully loaded laptop.
That said, I do love the Nexus. I think the issue of a very powerful keyboard is what I need to retain it.
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Please see my response to "NickTheMajin". I'm not looking for a total laptop replacement; just a nice tablet/laptop hybrid but not for all of the things one might get in a fully loaded laptop.
That said, I do love the Nexus. I think the issue of a very powerful keyboard is what I need to retain it.
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For your use I would really recommend two things. Either the Microsoft Surface or waiting and seeing if a new Transformer tablet comes out. At this point I would not recommend the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity, its really not that good of a tablet and has a ton of performance issues. But Asus will likely release another tablet in its transformer line this year.
Based on what you said the best for you is a windows 8 tablet hybrid. I would not get surface I tried both RT and Pro and its OK but keyboard sucks big time. I would suggest you get the lenovo thinkpad helix. It is similar to Asus transformer but much more powerful and windows 8 coming out in April.
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Unfortunately its still running that chrome OS. Honestly, I can see paying $250 for a chrome book even with how limited it is because its so affordable. The pixel on the other hand I can't see being worth it at all. As beautifully crafted as it is, the OS is just too limited to be worth the $1200. If it was running something like Mac OS or Windows 8 (touch input) I could see myself wanting one.
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Not sure if it was mentioned yet or not, but Chromebooks (afaik) are "open", as in, you can install any compatible OS. ARM-based Chromebooks are a bit more limited on other OS options, in comparison to x86 Chromebooks.
Issue is the hard drive space is crap on chrome book most have 16gb not enough IMO.
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Not sure if it was mentioned yet or not, but Chromebooks (afaik) are "open", as in, you can install any compatible OS. ARM-based Chromebooks are a bit more limited on other OS options, in comparison to x86 Chromebooks.
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I was not aware of this. Could you theoretically put Windows 8 on the Chromebook Pixel? Because that would actually make me consider getting one to supplement my desktop. $1200 is steep but the build quality of the thing is more than worth it if I can put software in it that is useful.
I love my nexus 10 and I was going to purchase a Samsung chromebook but the only thing that stopped me was not being able too run adb and fastboot and hook it up to my phone ....so I replaced the hard drive in my old HP lap top and installed Ubuntu 13.04 on it ....unless something has changed when I was looking at the chrome book about a month ago there wasn't a way to install the platform tools without having to do a million things I wanted something simple but oh well :good:
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I'm curious to hear other Nexus 10 owner's observations on the Chromebook. Do you think it's in the same league with the Nexus or am I just comparing 'apples to oranges'?
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N10 and the Samsung Series 3 ARM Chromebook are nearly the same in speed.
Look here for more info: https://plus.google.com/communities/105678482604512626671
You can also install Ubuntu on this machine and run it simultaneously with ChromeOS.
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I was not aware of this. Could you theoretically put Windows 8 on the Chromebook Pixel? Because that would actually make me consider getting one to supplement my desktop. $1200 is steep but the build quality of the thing is more than worth it if I can put software in it that is useful.
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You should be able to. I have a beta version Chromebook (cr-48) and I was able to install Windows 8 on that. Google even had a tutorial on their development site, so I'm sure you can do that with the newer Chromebooks.
Thanks to all for the great advice! At this point, I think that I'll hold onto my 10 & get a really robust keyboard. Speaking of, I've seen several. Top 3? May at least drop by a store to see a CB for the heck of it.
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Can Chromebooks ADB connect to phones? That is my only sticking point on pulling the trigger on a Chromebook.
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Thanks to all for the great advice! At this point, I think that I'll hold onto my 10 & get a really robust keyboard. Speaking of, I've seen several. Top 3? May at least drop by a store to see a CB for the heck of it.
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Since you're going to keep the Nexus 10, I recommend this keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...&sr=8-1&keywords=zagg+flex+Bluetooth+keyboard
The stand it comes with is terrible and mine was torn out of the box. I bought it for the keyboard though and could care less about the stand since I'm using a case with a build in stand. To keep things nice and portable without going with a full size keyboard is say this is one of the best options, especially for the price. Other options were up to twice the cost.
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You should be able to. I have a beta version Chromebook (cr-48) and I was able to install Windows 8 on that. Google even had a tutorial on their development site, so I'm sure you can do that with the newer Chromebooks.
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I had a CR-48 too, was pretty awesome Particularly liked that it supported UEFI.
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Can Chromebooks ADB connect to phones? That is my only sticking point on pulling the trigger on a Chromebook.
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No idea on ChromeOS (although with Linux at the base, I imagine it should be possible to some extent), but if you load another OS onto the Chromebook, then yes.
I have a Samsung Series 3 Chromebook and I just ordered a Nexus 10. I know I can't speak from experience, as I don't have the 10 yet, but I plan to use each in conjunction with another - the 10 for light browsing on the couch, reading (I.e. Flip board, pocket, ebooks), playing games (I have ps3 controllers so it should work out well) and since I'm also a student, using it as a notebook with a stylus, going through PowerPoints and reading textbooks.
The Chrome book, as mentioned by someone earlier is moreso a work machine. To be honest, its fairly slow in my opinion, but that's essentially a given with the current price point. However, both the track pad and keyboard work extremely well, and are comparable to that of a Macbook Pro.
Honestly I'm questioning how I will use the Chrome book, now that I have a Nexus 10, a case with a stand and a great Bluetooth keyboard (apple keyboard), but I still think it would be nice in terms of actual browsing or doing work
Also, I don't feel limited at all with the Chromebook. All my document needs are taken care of by Google Drive (with 100gb of extra storage when you buy a chrome book), I have both Google tasks , Google calendar, MightyText (SMS from from computer) and Chime (notifications extension), and if theres anything I desperately need to do, I have Chrome Remote Desktop. I don't know if ADB is possible on the Chrome book , as I don't use it. But, you can always sideload Ubuntu. Finally, the chrome book has amazing battery life and has Netflix support so there's not much more I could ask for $250
Just my 2 cents
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Reamer09 said:
Since you're going to keep the Nexus 10, I recommend this keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...&sr=8-1&keywords=zagg+flex+Bluetooth+keyboard
The stand it comes with is terrible and mine was torn out of the box. I bought it for the keyboard though and could care less about the stand since I'm using a case with a build in stand. To keep things nice and portable without going with a full size keyboard is say this is one of the best options, especially for the price. Other options were up to twice the cost.
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I quickly checked this out on Amazon & the latest reviews were along the lines of 'wish they would make this for the Nexus, etc' IYO, what makes this keyboard stand out for the Nexus 10 specifically?
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randun said:
I quickly checked this out on Amazon & the latest reviews were along the lines of 'wish they would make this for the Nexus, etc' IYO, what makes this keyboard stand out for the Nexus 10 specifically?
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Not sure what people mean by "wish they would make this for the nexus" but it's just a good, solid keyboard overall. Granted, I don't have a lot of experience with a lot of other keyboards, but I'm not searching for another since I got this one. My case came with a cheap keyboard (I have the Poetic case/keyboard combo) and it needed replacing, that's when I looked at reviews and decided on the Zagg.
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