Ok guys, is it just me that this the dual touch in our beloved X10 is wrong?
Because, when i play some dual touch games like NOVA, with one finger on my virtual joystick and the other for aiming , but when im moving and aiming at the same time , the aim goes wild and not precise at all, for instance, i move forward and try to aim to the right but end up aiming top right or bottom right :S ?
anyone other have this problem?
or could it be the screen protector?
brubutko said:
Ok guys, is it just me that this the dual touch in our beloved X10 is wrong?
Because, when i play some dual touch games like NOVA, with one finger on my virtual joystick and the other for aiming , but when im moving and aiming at the same time , the aim goes wild and not precise at all, for instance, i move forward and try to aim to the right but end up aiming top right or bottom right :S ?
anyone other have this problem?
or could it be the screen protector?
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No, it's not screen protector. The X10 hardware doesn't allow you to do that. We can't do anything about it
You sure this is hardware? Why not something else? I think for example X10 Mini Pro is younger and wasn't flagship device (X10 was) and in M/P guys get fully working DT with Y & X lines cross. Anyone is 100% sure that is hardware, not software? I thought we need to write a driver(s) "only".....
NOVA on mine x10 work fine,i tried modern combact 1 & 2 too,its not a hardware problem,ok,maybe it is in your case..
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brubutko, to avoid it just don't cross Y & X lines, change controls places and that's all (in games).
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Hi guys.
I've had sarah (my Nokia 6020) since God-knows-when (!), and so I'm not familiar with the modern cell phones and their characteristics.
I really like X10, but its lack of multi-touch is a little annoying, and some friends have told me to buy a phone which supports multi-touch.
I wanna know what exactly I will miss if I buy X10 and ignore its lack of multi-touch? Is it only important in games? How frequently games use multi-touch and is it impossible to play multi-touch games in X10?
Thanks.
Hi - Basically - it's only certain games which really need to use multitouch.. ones where you have to do 2 things at once.. there are some options to overcome this in certain cases, such as using a Wii Remote paired with your phone.. Personally I am not bothered at all about the lack of multitouch, because there are lots of games you can get which don't need MT... There are many good reasons to get one which, for me at least far outway the lack of MT.
At first I was hesitant to buy the X10 cuz it didn't support MT as well. It's a big step for me cuz I've never used a smart phone before but I do know lots about it lol. To be honest, I really don't think multi touch is an important feature, unless you're really into games that needs it. I've had the X10 for almost a month now and I absolutely love it there are great games in the App store that doesn't need multi touch like Radiant, Abduction, Totemo, etc etc. You should definitely get Rachael, you won't be disappointed
Not really, but there is talk about that in 2.1, but we don't talk about that here... MT is a taboo topic
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Yeah users become annoyed
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lack of mt is quite bad for gaming. example game like pspxdroid for playing pspx game and other action game. the point is a problem is a problem if u think is a problem. if you really want a phone with mt , end of the day it just going to come and hunt you if u get a x10 if u dun mind wait for 2.1 and see is there mt which some said there is, if not you can get desire or galaxy s which both are great phone.
Do you use your phone to call people...?
I do, and I don't need multi-touch for that.
If you're coming from an old dumb-phone, either you don't need multi-touch, or you're expecting your new phone to change your life in ways you never thought possible.
Trust me, the x10 will not change your life in ways you never thought possible, and no, you don't need multi-touch...
Thank you everyone, your opinion is really helpful.
Considering the fact that I'm a gamer, I think MT will be needed for me someday, but I understand I shouldn't overvalue it.
Why is it making a decision about a cell phone to buy is so hard? It's a lot easier with PCs, laptops, wives, Digicams, MP3 Players, ...
I studied a lot about X10 and MT and I'm almost certain that there will be no MT for X10 (SE made it clear 5-6 days after the rumor about MT in 2.1 started).
Ah, and every phone has its pros and cons and it makes no sense to consider them as "taboo".
mahi58 said:
Thank you everyone, your opinion is really helpful.
Considering the fact that I'm a gamer, I think MT will be needed for me someday, but I understand I shouldn't overvalue it.
Why is it making a decision about a cell phone to buy is so hard? It's a lot easier with PCs, laptops, wives, Digicams, MP3 Players, ...
I studied a lot about X10 and MT and I'm almost certain that there will be no MT for X10 (SE made it clear 5-6 days after the rumor about MT in 2.1 started).
Ah, and every phone has its pros and cons and it makes no sense to consider them as "taboo".
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there have also been reports of the touch panel manufacturers saying that they can enable MT on their ST pad with trickery too.
so i wouldnt believe anything anyone says for now. and just wait.
but if you are a 'gamer' then buy a psp or something.. its a mobile phone not a console/gaming pc
The point is that multitouch for as i know is used in web browsers and in games.Someone correct me if i am wrong.So if you would like to play the you should buy a PSP or Nintendo or whatever portable console, for more than one reason. My PSP's battery for example lasts up to 5 hours of intense gaming, and you still have the phone for calling, internet and so on.The control is better on the handheld console with or without multitouch.
But... since almost all smartphones have multitouch it whould be nice to have this feature even if i would not use it often.
So the bottom line is that i have a PSP for gaming so i really do not need the multitouch feature.
I'm playing Diablo 1 on psx4droid and haven't noticed any problems so far (except laggy video and sound stuttering which seems to be common for most devices). Good native android games are yet to come. If you're looking to play some decent games now, then go for PSP.
And by the way, HTC also stated there will be no mt for G1 so we shall see...
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there have also been reports of the touch panel manufacturers saying that they can enable MT on their ST pad with trickery too.
so i wouldnt believe anything anyone says for now. and just wait.
but if you are a 'gamer' then buy a psp or something.. its a mobile phone not a console/gaming pc
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well but mobile's game can be as fun too. looking a iphone they got lots got great and simple game. help to kill times when u travel to work or school.
hi
any confirm on x10 clearpad?which model is used on it?1000,2000 or 3000
Daniel_GB said:
hi
any confirm on x10 clearpad?which model is used on it?1000,2000 or 3000
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I guess none of the above. Why would they bother with adding custom driver if the device was Synaptics compatibile?
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I guess none of the above. Why would they bother with adding custom driver if the device was Synaptics compatibile?
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is there any way to find it?online supports agents dont know about this.
because im not sure x10 has a hardware problem!!they used clearpad 2000 for mini!!
what about x10?
no big ee for me, fat fingers lol
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Why is it making a decision about a cell phone to buy is so hard? It's a lot easier with PCs, laptops, wives, Digicams, MP3 Players, ....
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Does your wife know she's third in your list, eh? Lmfao!
The lack of hardware support for MT if true is a puzzling omission on the part of SE. The IPhone has had MT I think since the beginning & to leave out the feature from a flagship product is a fumble on SE's part IMO.
The phone over all is a great device even without MT but if gaming is a priority for you I would take a pass on the X10, & look for a device that supports MT not one that may support it.
Guys, please...
Of course I have a PSP!
But, 2 things make me care about my phone's gaming potential too:
1. I don't always carry my PSP around, and even if I have it, I can'y play with it everywhere (I am 30 years old )!
2. PSP is a very old device and its games are mostly the same with phone games, without touch controls. I don't think PSP is that much better than a phone for gaming (a lot of my friends have the same opinion).
I generally don't like the idea that it's a phone ==> if you need something else from your phone go buy something else...
I can't carry around a lot of gadgets...
Does your wife know she's third in your list, eh? Lmfao!
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You're gonna envy me about this: I don't have a wife! LMFAO too.
i fully agree with you i also dont carry psp with me every time.
I'm about to buy this toy, but i want to know some things that i cant find before i buy it.
I was interested about tegra 2 devices with great graphics in gaming so can u tell me what FPS this tablet get in Quadrant , and how it runs Dungeon Defenders ?
I heard it have multitouch but i cant find anywhere how good multi touch it is so how much fingers it can use , and does the touches stuck or they dont go as they should do ?
Does it have problem as Optimus 2X that reboots ?
And last, why it is so cheap ?
Thank you for your answers ( and sorry for bad english )
Here you go.
It plays Dungeon Defenders just fine with the rom I have installed (VEGAn 5.1.1). Also with the Clemsyn overclocked kernel I get scores in Quadrant that are higher than the Xoom.
It only has 2 point multitouch support and that works very well on mine.
No reboot issue on my device.
Viewsonic is relabeling it from someone else and the screen is a cheap netbook screen. The screen quality is up for debate (mainly viewing angles) but I have no problem with it considering the price of the tablet.
I mean multitouch function that looks like >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
Desire type or Galaxy ?
IEski said:
I'm about to buy this toy, but i want to know some things that i cant find before i buy it.
I was interested about tegra 2 devices with great graphics in gaming so can u tell me what FPS this tablet get in Quadrant , and how it runs Dungeon Defenders ?
I heard it have multitouch but i cant find anywhere how good multi touch it is so how much fingers it can use , and does the touches stuck or they dont go as they should do ?
Does it have problem as Optimus 2X that reboots ?
And last, why it is so cheap ?
Thank you for your answers ( and sorry for bad english )
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The reason of cheap price is because of poor support from manufacturor and problematic stock ROM. But it has excellent CPU core and graphic performance.
And i will dont have warranty, so do you have any problems that should i count with when i buy it from Amazon ?
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I mean multitouch function that looks like >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
Desire type or Galaxy ?
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That's two point multitouch. I ran the multitouch visual test shown in that video, and got similar results to those shown in the video, which would confirm two point touch.
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And i will dont have warranty, so do you have any problems that should i count with when i buy it from Amazon ?
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You won't have a warranty anyway after you root it and put a custom rom on it
IEski said:
I mean multitouch function that looks like >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
Desire type or Galaxy ?
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Just installed and ran the test the multi touch works like the Galaxy on the right.
And i hope last question.
I heard it have real big problems with force closing, so custom ROMs will fix it, or it will keep force closing forever ?...
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And i hope last question.
I heard it have real big problems with force closing, so custom ROMs will fix it, or it will keep force closing forever ?...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896395
please
I really wish the multi-touch.
many developers listen to me.
althogh i don't well grammer,but you will understand my opinion.
love x10mini,love x10mini developrers.
Thank you~~!
In short: Never
In long: Xperia X10 mini digitizer supports ONLY 1 finger, it means only one finger touch will be registred correctly. You have to get used to with faked dual touch.
Also, you are under from subforum and please...use a damn search.
If multitouch means 2 fingers to you, then check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009008&highlight=dual+touch
But if you want 3 fingers or more, it's currently not available
OH, and tell me, WHY DO YOU NEED MORE THAN 2 FINGERS???
You can pinch and zoom, play emulators, etc.
Unless you're playing pocket legends hardcore and really wanna damage your phone
I tried a few different roms, and the multitouch is completely broken in all of them.
Now, I was wondering, is the multitouch on the X10 Mini broken by default or it should work?
While single touch works perfectly on my device, multitouch is broken. I tried the multitouch tester program from Market and while the first touch point is always pretty much right, the second one jumps all over the place. Moving both fingers at once doesn't work and results in both points jumping all over the screen. Games that require multitouch (like Slice It) are unplayable. Pinch to Zoom (that imo is way inferior to the old way of zooming from the stock rom) barely works at all, and it completely unprecise.
Is it my screen (or digitizer, whatever it's called) borked or it's the multitouch on this device impossible to have working right?
Multitouch is NEVER EVE EVER EVER possible on the X10 Mini as it is since the digitizer doesn't support it. it only supports single touch and some kind of pinch zoom, but that's it. No way in hell The X10 Mini can support Multiouch unless you switch hardware.
HOWEVER!! The X10 Mini PRO supports dualtouch at max, thanks to its Cypress Truetouch 3 digitizer.
Then why do they keep adding that fake dualtouch support in MiniCM roms for the X10 mini? It doesn't even work. I'm not an expert on programming or whatever, but I feel like with all the efforts they probably put into creating the "fake dualtouch" for the X10 Mini they could have ported the Zoom function of the stock picture viewer to other apps that used zoom instead of that absurd pinch to zoom.
Of course I don't want to insult the developers, but I feel like their efforts were wasted as it's pretty much unusable.
2 kinds of dt moduals bet you have outher 1 look into it
MarkMRL said:
I tried a few different roms, and the multitouch is completely broken in all of them.
Now, I was wondering, is the multitouch on the X10 Mini broken by default or it should work?
While single touch works perfectly on my device, multitouch is broken. I tried the multitouch tester program from Market and while the first touch point is always pretty much right, the second one jumps all over the place. Moving both fingers at once doesn't work and results in both points jumping all over the screen. Games that require multitouch (like Slice It) are unplayable. Pinch to Zoom (that imo is way inferior to the old way of zooming from the stock rom) barely works at all, and it completely unprecise.
Is it my screen (or digitizer, whatever it's called) borked or it's the multitouch on this device impossible to have working right?
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It works fine on certain apps, for example, on Opera, it works fine for me, but on Google Maps, it is impossible to use it.
Hi i was just wondering somethings about the xperia u before it replaces my wildfire
Here are something i would like to know.
1.Can the xperia u play extremely graphic intensive games such as N.O.V.A 3, FIFA 12, MODERN COMBAT 3,etc and how is the overall experience on playing these games on a small screen?
2.Is the screen size been ever a problem for typing, playing games ,etc (especially for people who got big fingers)?
3. How much can I overclock this phone safely too?
The storage is too low, thats why i wouldnt buy it personally
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Hi i was just wondering somethings about the xperia u before it replaces my wildfire
Here are something i would like to know.
1.Can the xperia u play extremely graphic intensive games such as N.O.V.A 3, FIFA 12, MODERN COMBAT 3,etc and how is the overall experience on playing these games on a small screen?
2.Is the screen size been ever a problem for typing, playing games ,etc (especially for people who got big fingers)?
3. How much can I overclock this phone safely too?
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1. Yes, all of them. It's a freaking duel core processor, don't underestimate it
2.Screen is perfect ! i have big hands (my hight is 1.90 meters).
3.1200mhz would be stable and give decent battery life
In portrait its very small you cant type.
But you can type in landscape with ez.
Screen is small for playing good games..
All of these games you've mentioned runs flawlessly on my XPeria U.
Over all it's a good phone for 230$ budget go get it, It will be getting ICS in this Friday in India/Asia and in Europe next week.
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nathan96 said:
1. Yes, all of them. It's a freaking duel core processor, don't underestimate it
2.Screen is perfect ! i have big hands (my hight is 1.90 meters).
3.1200mhz would be stable and give decent battery life
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Not 1200 but 1290
Btw Nova 3, max payne, MC3, Asphalt 7, and other heavy games work smooth on XU
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XperiaU said:
In portrait its very small you cant type.
But you can type in landscape with ez.
Screen is small for playing good games..
All of these games you've mentioned runs flawlessly on my XPeria U.
Over all it's a good phone for 230$ budget go get it, It will be getting ICS in this Friday in India/Asia and in Europe next week.
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So do you use the phone in landscape mostly then because of the screen?
Thanks for the quick reply guys i am moving to the xperia u soon (keeping my wildfire tho) hope to see you soon on the xperia u forums
One more Question though the phone has a 3.5" screen the same as the iphone 4s(sorry about mentioning the iphone) but why is it considered small and cramped when the iphone is easy to type with?
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Thanks for the quick reply guys i am moving to the xperia u soon (keeping my wildfire tho) hope to see you soon on the xperia u forums
One more Question though the phone has a 3.5" screen the same as the iphone 4s(sorry about mentioning the iphone) but why is it considered small and cramped when the iphone is easy to type with?
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Iphones screen is wider compared to the U
Tapatalked !!
Iphone screen is more wide.but XPeria U screen is more long.
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How would it bear with the storage though. I'm not denying that it's a good phone but don't all the new GL titles have around a1.5gb download?
fareeed said:
How would it bear with the storage though. I'm not denying that it's a good phone but don't all the new GL titles have around a1.5gb download?
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get sola bro.... storage is the one thing if u have less u will always be longing for more.... storage is a Pain in the @$$ in U if u consider gaming..... my friend has it...... i have a sola and all of them works well along with a bigger screen......
hit thanx if i helped....
1. i've played both nova 3 and modern combat 3 with XU. true it's not buttery smooth but coming from a less capable phone, the XU offers me more than enough gaming capabilities.
overall experience is what you'd expect from playing games on a phone sorry if that doesn't help much but hey, you've had a droid before, you know how it feels. only this time, boost the framerates higher and the display sharper.
2. for people who got big fingers, I imagine it might be. since I'm not one of them it's not a problem for me, both in landscape or portrait.
3. I can't help you much on that, because personally this phone feels fast enough it doesn't need an overclock. I wouldn't mind if somebody managed to undervolt it though.
as for storage problems, I only have one of those games that requires gigabytes of data installed at a time. Once I've finished them (or got bored), I'll simply delete it and install another. but I do kept a large number of casual, small games like temple run though.
Ok gonna move to xperia dont care about memory right now!