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This is off topic but please do this and share it with as many people as you can.
http://americancensorship.org/
Today, Congress holds hearings on the first American Internet censorship system.
This bill can pass. If it does the Internet and free speech will never be the same.
Join all of us to stop this bill.
Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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right on dude...your totally right
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Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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There changed it. Lol sorry wasn't really thinking...
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Signed. This internet censorship **** scared the hell out of me.
Did it last night. I saw that unrevoked tweeted it last night.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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There changed it. Lol sorry wasn't really thinking...
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No no, don't be sorry buddy. You were just trying to be polite. I didn't mean to make my reply sound negative. I was trying to publicly show my support for the petition and your post. I'm the one that is sorry.
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Signed. This internet censorship **** scared the hell out of me.
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You and me both, buddy. This is so incredibly scary.
This just goes to show how our rights are being stripped away one at a time with bills such as these . Like gas prices example I used in another thread , slowly alittle bit , piece by piece they are removed and we accept it and move on . Knowledge shouldn't be restricted or controlled in any fashion . SIGNED
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Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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Dude, I love when you post stuff like this. Oh and hey.. supersize (or is it synthesize) me some drugs okay. Appreciate it.
signed with much pleasure! Good looking out OP
When did these petitions ever work? I can appreciate the effort, but you all realize it's not going to do jack ****. The site simply said "Thanks for sending the letter to your representative". Did it really send that? Where did it send it to?
I think most effective way would be to directly contact your representative's offices and express your concerns, instead of generating an automated email with identical text.
I just hope that we have enough people in congress with more than one functional brain cell to see that this bill is a pure nightmare and wreak all kinds of havoc. And I am sure it will be veto'd by Obama. But still, letting your representative know about it directly (without computer-generated letter) should be something that everyone does.
You can start here to get contact information: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Directly contacted one of the reps in my area (Denver, Mike Coffman for anyone who questions me) as well as signed the petition.
Less government = more freedom. **** anything that would hinder my ability to know less than I should.
empiire said:
Directly contacted one of the reps in my area (Denver, Mike Coffman for anyone who questions me) as well as signed the petition.
Less government = more freedom. **** anything that would hinder my ability to know less than I should.
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The news does just that!
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The news does just that!
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Yes it does! Media outlets seem to hold the most power, with what they can do/manipulate people into believing though.
Bump
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The petition is technically already worthless, because it was already voted on, I can't find any news on it. Anyone?
However, there is still the possibly of a veto. The bill had 3/24 democrat so it was mostly a republican bill.
look like no vote yet..
but now google voicing their opinion
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ship-google-twitter-facebook-article-1.979020
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look like no vote yet..
but now google voicing their opinion
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ship-google-twitter-facebook-article-1.979020
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Thanks for the info
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Google was voicing their opinion even in hearing. But what sucks is that out of 6 parties invited to the hearing, only 1 opposed the bill. Basically, bill sponsors paraded people whom they knew would support it, and threw in Google to make it look more kosher.
Facebook and twitter from what i have read are against it
As many of you know TrevE has helped to discover CIQ problems that were prevalent throughout a plethora of devices. Due to his efforts to educate us in what was going on in our devices CIQ has now issued a C&D to him. I urge you all to read this article and please help spread the word: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/carrier-iq-sues-treve/
Petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/tel...iq-to-leave-treve-along-and-stop-tracking-you
BREAKING NEWS!
TREV WINS
Mountain View, CA – November 23, 2011 – As, of today, we are withdrawing
our cease and desist letter to Mr. Trevor Eckhart. We have reached out to Mr.
Eckhart and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) to apologize. Our action
was misguided and we are deeply sorry for any concern or trouble that our letter
may have caused Mr. Eckhart. We sincerely appreciate and respect EFF’s work
on his behalf, and share their commitment to protecting free speech in a rapidly
changing technological world.
We would like to take this opportunity to reiterate the functionality of Carrier IQ’s
software, what it does not do and what it does:
- Does not record your keystrokes.
- Does not provide tracking tools.
- Does not inspect or report on the content of your communications, such as
the content of emails and SMSs.
- Does not provide real-time data reporting to any customer.
- Finally, we do not sell Carrier IQ data to third parties.
Our software is designed to help mobile network providers diagnose critical
issues that lead to problems such as dropped calls and battery drain.
Here’s what our software does:
- Our software makes your phone work better by identifying dropped calls
and poor service.
- Our software identifies problems that impede a phone’s battery life.
- Our software makes customer service quicker, more accurate, and more
efficient.
- Our software helps quickly identify trending problems to help mobile
networks prevent them from becoming more widespread.
We look forward to a healthy and robust discussion with EFF that we believe will
be helpful to us, to our customers, and to consumers that use mobile devices.
We welcome feedback on our products and understand that Mr. Eckhart and
other developers like him play an important role by raising questions about the
complicated and technical aspects of the mobile ecosystem.
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As many of you know TrevE has helped to discover CIQ problems that were prevalent throughout a plethora of devices. Due to his efforts to educate us in what was going on in our devices CIQ has now issued a C&D to him. I urge you all to read this article and please help spread the word: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/carrier-iq-sues-treve/
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Wow, they're actually suing him? For exposing spyware? That's ****ed up, yo. I will do whatever I can to spread the word on this.
dastin1015 said:
As many of you know TrevE has helped to discover CIQ problems that were prevalent throughout a plethora of devices. Due to his efforts to educate us in what was going on in our devices CIQ has now issued a C&D to him. I urge you all to read this article and please help spread the word: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/carrier-iq-sues-treve/
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Posting this link on everything I have access to. This is typically big company BS! Keep up the great work TrevE.
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As many of you know TrevE has helped to discover CIQ problems that were prevalent throughout a plethora of devices. Due to his efforts to educate us in what was going on in our devices CIQ has now issued a C&D to him. I urge you all to read this article and please help spread the word: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/carrier-iq-sues-treve/
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Already spread to all my social networks TrevE has done great work and he has my support.
Going to be putting this into my signature and spreading the word. This is an absolute outrage. I will never be doing business with ciq, and neither will the 100 other people I tell. Also going to be contacting CNN, and some other news contacts. Say good bye to your business ciq.
Treve if you are reading this, you have our full support, I may be in contract.
-Brant
Got ur back treve! Posted on my facebook,google+,twitter,myspace. CIQ can kiss my ass! Ha. They wanna play like that, we got the support right here and everywhere now! People like there privacy, and ciq dont like that. Scumbags.
hTc 3D
We need to put this on dev section for all to see!!!
hTc 3D
The word(s) of the day...Fah Q CIQ
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Here's some data for CIQ to collect: you're not going to win this one.
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Wow, that is some bull****. It sounds guaranteed that he will win this fight. But agreed with everyone else, the more we spread the word, the more we help, and the closer he comes to winning. TrevE all the way!!
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The word(s) of the day...Fah Q CIQ
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Lmfao! Very creative
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I'm surprised CIQ is doing this when they likely are not at fault for most of the issues currently. It's more closely tied to HTC and sprint since they license to use the CIQ software and do with the info how they see fit.
Even more so it was shown that HTC modified their version a lot making it much less able to be turned off. That in itself is the main issue too. Allow an actual opt out and most if not all issues are gone. HTC/sprint chose not to so that and that's where most blame should be put between them two.
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I'm surprised CIQ is doing this when they likely are not at fault for most of the issues currently. It's more closely tied to HTC and sprint since they license to use the CIQ software and do with the info how they see fit.
Even more so it was shown that HTC modified their version a lot making it much less able to be turned off. That in itself is the main issue too. Allow an actual opt out and most if not all issues are gone. HTC/sprint chose not to so that and that's where most blame should be put between them two.
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This is true. They did however make a patch for it to be removed. If you do remove it they give you the finger by making hboot 1.5.....I think....right?
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I'm surprised CIQ is doing this when they likely are not at fault for most of the issues currently. It's more closely tied to HTC and sprint since they license to use the CIQ software and do with the info how they see fit.
Even more so it was shown that HTC modified their version a lot making it much less able to be turned off. That in itself is the main issue too. Allow an actual opt out and most if not all issues are gone. HTC/sprint chose not to so that and that's where most blame should be put between them two.
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I agree with this also, just didn't want to drag the thread off topic. This lawsuit by a company HTC is in bed with is the final nail in the coffin for me and HTC. I won't be buying another HTC product. And this phone was my third straight HTC.
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I agree with this also, just didn't want to drag the thread off topic. This lawsuit by a company HTC is in bed with is the final nail in the coffin for me and HTC. I won't be buying another HTC product. And this phone was my third straight HTC.
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not just htc thing is in loads of phones. Good luck finding one without it. Just HTC modified theirs more than others from reading what Treve has posted.
Here is the company's sales email. Send them a message [email protected]
fpineda101 said:
Here is the company's sales email. Send them a message [email protected]
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Thabk you! Ima send em a nice **** YOU ltr
hTc 3D
fpineda101 said:
Here is the company's sales email. Send them a message [email protected]
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I'm typing mine up
Support TrevE! Fah Q CIQ!!
CIQ probably feels like they are getting a bad rap. But they know what the software is capable of. They signed a contract with carriers. That contract could have had limitations on what ciq would be used for, but obviously the dollar signs in their eyes blinded them.
On the other hand, their software has security flaws. They should have tested it more thoroughly. Oh, wait.....that code is meant to be a backdoor data collector and key logger. Hmm. How do you patch a security hole in code that is made to be a security hole?
Ciq should be taking legal action against those that are using the code to the extent that the carriers are....unless that's what they contracted it out for (in which case they should just accept the well-deserved criticism and bow their heads in shame)
Ever thus to deadbeats.
If everyone is posting on twitter maybe if everyone uses the same #tags it may get more notice.
Hey guys, we did a great job the first time around (thanks ckoadyin!!!) But sources say this could be voted on as early as next week! http://americancensorship.org/ for more info and to sign the petition again! I believe if you provide information to where you live when signing that it will automatically send email to your local congressmen, but on top of that we want as many emails and calls as possible. Worst case scenario for a filibuster to be initiated. We have a little more time this time around, so sign, call, spread the word to every social network possible, and to every forum here on xda. I can't tell you how important this is, specially considering this is being advertised as an anti piracy measure (which is total crap!), it gives law makers and large corporations tons of power to censor the internet!
Thanks for reading guys, act fast, power to the people!
I'm surprised there hasn't been any reply to this, this is so scary. I don't want my freedom to obtain or distribute information taken away
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I'm surprised there hasn't been any reply to this, this is so scary. I don't want my freedom to obtain or distribute information taken away
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Is panda sad?
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Step 1) Wait for bill to pass
Step 2) Post illegal links all over government sites
Step 3) Win?
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Is panda sad?
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Panda so sad
yousefak said:
Step 1) Wait for bill to pass
Step 2) Post illegal links all over government sites
Step 3) Win?
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you are full of win
does this mean google will be taken down because illegal links and information can be accessed through the search? hope not but i chuckle at the thought
Dude, the 3 major internet giants (Google, yahoo, Bing) are all AGAINST the bill, trust me, after a couple of friends and ke kinda compared the conditions of this bill to the bill of rights in the constitution alone, it would spit all over it! By shutting down Google, you shut down blogger (freedom of speech, press, religion, peaceful assembly cut) Google ads (pretty much all rights since Google Taylor's ads to what type of site u use), and by doing that, you will probably shutdown the android project, because all major funding for Google and its servers are gone! (Freedom of expression infringed) and various other things! This bill wouldn't stand a chance!!!!!!
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Dude, the 3 major internet giants (Google, yahoo, Bing) are all AGAINST the bill, trust me, after a couple of friends and ke kinda compared the conditions of this bill to the bill of rights in the constitution alone, it would spit all over it! By shutting down Google, you shut down blogger (freedom of speech, press, religion, peaceful assembly cut) Google ads (pretty much all rights since Google Taylor's ads to what type of site u use), and by doing that, you will probably shutdown the android project, because all major funding for Google and its servers are gone! (Freedom of expression infringed) and various other things! This bill wouldn't stand a chance!!!!!!
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Although the bill won't pass, here's a more accurate depiction:
1 - They shut down thepiratebay and other torrent sites
2 - Reddit, 4chan, etc. get extremely angry
3 - they shut down 4chan
4 - users of 4chan hack government websites, start riots, god knows what they are capable of...
But the SOPA bill is probably there to make the Protect-IP thing sound reasonable even though it is still crazy.
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Although the bill won't pass, here's a more accurate depiction:
1 - They shut down thepiratebay and other torrent sites
2 - Reddit, 4chan, etc. get extremely angry
3 - they shut down 4chan
4 - users of 4chan hack government websites, start riots, god knows what they are potential of...
But the SOPA bill is probably there to make the Protect-IP thing sound reasonable even though it is still crazy.
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I think torrent sites suck anyway.! Lol
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Sexual Harassment Panda
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Sexual Harassment Panda
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I'm strangely aroused.
While there is opposition from large companies there is also major support from large companies too. There are over 30 senators just sponsoring the damn thing, and many more supporting it. So you will have to excuse my pessimism, I believe it has a very good chance of passing despite huge opposition from the masses. The companies that are supporting the bill are dumping a lot of money into the pockets of the very senators voting to pass it, therefore it really doesn't matter that it is unpopular.
We have to send the message that if you vote in support you will be trading your political career for it. The only way we do that is by sending emails and calling BEFORE the vote.
So please sign the petition again! If possible call your state representatives too, but at very least sign the petition!!
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Step 1) Wait for bill to pass
Step 2) Post illegal links all over government sites
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Collect underpants?
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http://americancensorship.org/
sign up to call your senator people and leave them a message saying you oppose this bill!!!
do it again they will connect you with your senator! on the spot
ckoadiyn said:
http://americancensorship.org/
sign up to call your senator people and leave them a message saying you oppose this bill!!!
do it again they will connect you with your senator! on the spot
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ahhhhh sweet ck! Thanks for the info, there is no excuse now, half the work is done for you. Let's get on this people. There are two bills we have to kill! SOPA and that internet IP BS.
this is the most ridiculous bill iv ever seen in my life, just the idea of it stomps on our freedom =\
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this is the most ridiculous bill iv ever seen in my life, just the idea of it stomps on our freedom =\
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Thanks for your reply. I have to agree, and it is a potentially scary thought. It is written, and so is the protect IP bill, under the guise that it combats piracy. Except it gives so much power to large companies and the government that it would not be impossible to censor unrelated material! I think Americans like their freedom to obtain information via internet like they like their second amendment rights, which is deal with the consequences of not having that right controlled, rather than lose the freedom altogether. I think it is the responsibility of individual companies to protect their intellectual property themselves, not rely on the government to do it, and in the mean time censor information we have access to.
Am I right?
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Thanks for your reply. I have to agree, and it is a potentially scary thought. It is written, and so is the protect IP bill, under the guise that it combats piracy. Except it gives so much power to large companies and the government that it would not be impossible to censor unrelated material! I think Americans like their freedom to obtain information via internet like they like their second amendment rights, which is deal with the consequences of not having that right controlled, rather than lose the freedom altogether. I think it is the responsibility of individual companies to protect their intellectual property themselves, not rely on the government to do it, and in the mean time censor information we have access to.
Am I right?
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Yep I agree
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I like hitting the thank button just for agreeing with me, lol!
It is absolutely crazy right now. In reality it has been this way for the last 150 years, but the media is focusing so much on the same topic right now it appears as if this crap has just started. With large corporations like general electric not paying taxes and receiving a 3.2 billion dollar tax credit while the lower and middle class get raped with taxes, over regulation on the wrong things, this ciq privacy SNAFU, laws being enacted taking away even our most basic rights....
I mean you can't even throw a stone in any direction and not hit a topic in the news where we actually have real freedom, aren't getting stolen from and cheated by large business and government, ad infinitum! Bah!
Lol so true panda so true n so sad
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http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/megaupload_seizure/?source=fb
Just thought people should know!
I find it very entertaining it occurred the day after the SOPA blackout protests. Anonymous seems to have taken a jump on it too and taken down the DOJ's site and some major record sites as well.
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I find it very entertaining it occurred the day after the SOPA blackout protests. Anonymous seems to have taken a jump on it too and taken down the DOJ's site and some major record sites as well.
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Anonymous is ex government officials best believe, they always seem to be on top of everything
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I'm glad it was shut down. Everyone uses that garbage site to host files and the download speeds were horrid not to mention the waiting times and ads.
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Seeing this in the news really set me off.
There are plenty of worse hosts out there.
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WOW. That is BS... I cannot believe it. What site is next? This is PURE CRAP. And I did not prefer this site but sometimes it worked to get what I needed. F The Government. I thought in H.S. over 20 years ago we would of had a civil war due to the goverment. I thought after all this time we had passed that point. But HOW the goverment and the obama admin is taking away our rights and what we are used to I can see it happening at some point as this crap continues....
Just saying, MegaVideo is down, too.
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Just saying, MegaVideo is down, too.
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They are the same site...
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WOW. That is BS... I cannot believe it. What site is next? This is PURE CRAP. And I did not prefer this site but sometimes it worked to get what I needed. F The Government. I thought in H.S. over 20 years ago we would of had a civil war due to the goverment. I thought after all this time we had passed that point. But HOW the goverment and the obama admin is taking away our rights and what we are used to I can see it happening at some point as this crap continues....
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We don't have a right to steal the IP of others. While I do not want more government in my life, the problem of piracy is very real and one that is getting worse with each generation. The ease with which we can do it has caused whole generations of kids to grow up with no respect for the property of others. All they understand is that if they can download it, they can do with it as they please. They have almost no concept of what IP and copyright are. Something has to be done not just to protect companies from unscrupulous Americans with entitlement attitudes, but from countries like China that are stealing billions from us with no controls whatsoever. Piracy costs us all in some way.
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We don't have a right to steal the IP of others. While I do not want more government in my life, the problem of piracy is very real and one that is getting worse with each generation. The ease with which we can do it has caused whole generations of kids to grow up with no respect for the property of others. All they understand is that if they can download it, they can do with it as they please. They have almost no concept of what IP and copyright are. Something has to be done not just to protect companies from unscrupulous Americans with entitlement attitudes, but from countries like China that are stealing billions from us with no controls whatsoever. Piracy costs us all in some way.
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well put!
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Miami_Son said:
We don't have a right to steal the IP of others. While I do not want more government in my life, the problem of piracy is very real and one that is getting worse with each generation. The ease with which we can do it has caused whole generations of kids to grow up with no respect for the property of others. All they understand is that if they can download it, they can do with it as they please. They have almost no concept of what IP and copyright are. Something has to be done not just to protect companies from unscrupulous Americans with entitlement attitudes, but from countries like China that are stealing billions from us with no controls whatsoever. Piracy costs us all in some way.
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THIS^^^ Just because they did some proper services such as file hosting, they should not be allowed to pirate. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Sharing free information is one thing selling stolen info is quite the other
I dont think there will ever be a way to stop piracy. Sure they may make it harder but dont think it will ever stop. Just my 2 cents.
There is a difference between stopping piracy and giving our government the ability to police the internet in this fashion. If you give them an inch they're gonna take a mile. This is not communist China, it's the FREE USA. Do not give our government this power.
I have no quims about shutting it down if they are guilty. My thing is if they can do this without sopa, and they can, what is the need for sopa? It's just for the government to have more power as they see fit. F*ing lobbyist! More reason to fight sopa.
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Have you guys ever noticed that all the devs on the i9100 section here use MegaUpload? That **** used to piss me off. Why use such a crappy service when you can easily host it on Dropbox for free and much more easily.
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There is a difference between stopping piracy and giving our government the ability to police the internet in this fashion. If you give them an inch they're gonna take a mile. This is not communist China, it's the FREE USA. Do not give our government this power.
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Very true!
MegaUpload, like other filesharing websites, had no control over what users upload. They also complied with DMCA takedown notices.
So, the actual story behind the Megaupload thing had to do with the Megaupload song they posted, sang by people like Will.I.Am, Kanye West, and some others. What ended up happening was the record company that owned some of these singers, Universal Music Group or w/e, was pissed off and demanded the song be removed off Youtube and it was just going back and forth for a while. In the end, they really took action against Megaupload and now that's why they're currently down. The real war isn't between the artists and people downloading music, it's between the record companies who are apparently being retarded and abusing their power or w/e.
http://torrentfreak.com/universal-censors-megaupload-song-gets-branded-a-rogue-label-111210/
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/01/20/swizz-beatz-and-the-mystery-of-megaupload/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204616504577171060611948408.html?KEYWORDS=megaupload
if people stopped putting out bad movies, music, and games then I wouldn't pirate so much. who protects my money when I don't like what I paid for? I buy records of music I like and have over 600. I keep a long list of movies I like for a future shelf filled with 100s of them. I'm in school and making 12k per year. I pirate everything. we don't have imax, arthouse theaters, or good music here. I have to drive 6 hours out then back for a good time. if some rich person can't afford to keep their planes, boats, second and onward homes, and lot of cars - I will not lose sleep. we don't need anti piracy. we need quality control and bigger paychecks.
Saw this article today on BGR about Android security.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/10/15/android-security-fbi-malware-warning/
I understand about using safe apps and will probably try and Anti-Virus software. I love using ROMs and the last part of the article caught my attention about rooting the phone.
Usually we root to install ROMs. Could there be malicious ROM makers who build ROM's that steal information? I know I am being paranoid but could some hacker build a ROM that secretly sent your information to a hidden server? Is there any way people can check if the ROM is safe?
I go on the threads to read about how fast it is, how little space it uses, the modifications, etc but I never read to check up on the safety of the ROM. I am not trying to accuse any ROM makers and I am grateful to the community for having the ability to change our phones. However this article got me thinking about it.
FBI says a lot of things.
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The 2 pieces of malware the FBI discovered are from phishing. One ad was for finding wealthy Asian males and the other for something else stupid.
Both require u to install an app on your phone as well. So, if your rooted u can install adaway and not worry about phishing ads in the first place. Second, if your dumb enough to click on ads u deserve a lil ass kicking.
Genius!
A rom maker could feasibly do some pretty bad things. In fact back in the day, when mui was first getting some attention, there were people who wouldn't run it and were convinced the rom was malware, just because it was something new and it was chinese. That of course turned out to false. As long as you know and trust the dev, you should be okay. Especially here on xda, what with the recognized titles, or other sites where a dev has built up a following. I might be a little wary of someone with a low post count and no title posting a rom, but still, the chances of a dev going rogue, and building a rom just to get you to run some piece of malware are pretty slim.
The reason they warn against rooting is more along the lines of preventing malicious apps from getting superuser access, in order to do things they shouldn't.
BGR is an apple biased tech blog and says whatever to put android down. They're like NBC news if you're Republican or Fox News if you're Democrat. Seriously, ran by fan boys
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fpineda101 said:
BGR is an apple biased tech blog and says whatever to put android down. They're like NBC news if you're Republican or Fox News if you're Democrat. Seriously, ran by fan boys
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i think it is actually the other way around for FOX and NBC isnt it :silly:
bog3nator said:
i think it is actually the other way around for FOX and NBC isnt it :silly:
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I meant if you're Republican then you take what nbc says with a grain a salt and demo same thing with fox. I know man lol
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Using common sense when going to websites, viewing emails with links, or downloading and installing apps is the best way to stay safe..
All I need is for your phone to install apps from unknown sources and some clever java script. Doesn't matter if you're rooted or not
You don't need root to browse shady website, download warez and sideload them. I think Apple is paying the FBI.
Yeah I feel safer with Android, I know exactly what my phone is doing 98% of the time. Who knows what kind of 'skynet' stuff is going on behind the scenes at apple. There must be a reason that all of their equipment can only be used by their other equipment (no micro usb cable for instance)
metalfan78 said:
Yeah I feel safer with Android, I know exactly what my phone is doing 98% of the time. Who knows what kind of 'skynet' stuff is going on behind the scenes at apple. There must be a reason that all of their equipment can only be used by their other equipment (no micro usb cable for instance)
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Some guy in Germany or somewhere around there hijacked a bunch of iPhones using a built in remote feature for developers and charged everyone affected (I forgot how much) to release their phones. I believe they had to be jail broken but that still doesn't excuse allowing such a huge security flaw.
Yeah, I remember hearing about that awhile ago.
It's about like the never ending gun control issue. No matter how many people die from guns in "gun-free" zones, they still try to say that guns are dangerous and making a rule that only the good people will obey, and being forced to wait 45 minutes for a cop to show up, who often then shoots the wrong people when he does finally get there, somehow makes people safe from guns.
Being under your own control, and having everyone else under their own control, is always better than giving control over many to a few.
Most people are not bad, so even though it's true that some always are bad, and they will always be a problem, they are always the minority, and so as long as everyone has an equal footing, the bad guys can never win and they will always be a small problem, roughly equal to their percentage of the total population.
It's only when some relatively small group of power-holders convince everyone else to give up their equal footing, that the bad guys have a way to co-opt that unnatural imbalance and take advantage of it for themselves, allowing a few bad guys to harm everyone else.
Anyone who tries to remove fundamental control from you, either has an angle or is incompetent, no matter what good-sounding rationalizations they try to hide the truth in.
In other words, root is just, and the FBI trying to scare you away from root is unjust.
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Well said, well said
Do you listen/believe everything our government tells us? Lol! (J/K)...Kind of...
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It's like anything, just be sure you know what you are downloading and stay away from shady stuff. If you download cracked apps odds are you're going to get malware, likewise you'll never see me using MIUI on any of my devices.
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It's like anything, just be sure you know what you are downloading and stay away from shady stuff. If you download cracked apps odds are you're going to get malware, likewise you'll never see me using MIUI on any of my devices.
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A rom built in a communist country that regulates all forms of communication and is now the official ROM for a company that has to follow the regulations, I really don't blame you
Get a free mobile antivirus, like McAfee
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om4 said:
Some guy in Germany or somewhere around there hijacked a bunch of iPhones using a built in remote feature for developers and charged everyone affected (I forgot how much) to release their phones. I believe they had to be jail broken but that still doesn't excuse allowing such a huge security flaw.
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Sounds like what my neighbor went through but w/his pc. The rouge software directed him that the FBI wanted him to goto walgreens to buy some prepaid $ card/software if he wanted control of his pc again. Different platform, same concept I believe.
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