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Data speeds have been horribly inconsistent since I got it. I have had several AT&T 3G phones in the same locations I'm using the Atrix and I can say with confidence it's not just the network. In the same spot at the same time a speed test will tell me ~3Mbps down ~1Mbps up and yet it will be horribly slow surfing the web. I'll bench it again a few minutes later and the speed test page won't even load. Apps will complain of no data connectivity and then boom, all of a sudden it's back. The whole time I'll have a 4-5 bars of service and my wife's iPhone sitting right next to it has no problems. Many times I have to reboot the phone to get data service back. Sometimes the data speed is so good I think I left the wifi on. That rarely lasts however.
I have tried nearly every "ROM" and radio in the dev section. I'm currently running the latest AT&T radio and CherryBlur. Is the radio in this thing just a PoS? I was thinking of having it swapped anyway since the front facing camera is completely blocked with pocket lint.
I just got the Atrix as a company phone. I traded in my company iPhone 4 for it for a couple of reasons.
1.) I prefer android phones
2.) I have an upcoming trip to Europe and thought I would have an easier time using the Atrix over there than the iPhone.
3.) I have an android tablet that also has a Tegra 2 chip in it so I thought I could run of the of the games I got for my tablet on this phone.
4.) Both my personal and work cell phones were 3G phones.
After having it for only 2 days, I am not a fan. I noticed the crappy data speed and also have suffered the network not available errors.
I have a rooted Droid X as a personal phone and I absolutely LOVE it. I travel for business and pleasure and when I do I usually take both my work phone and personal phone and I consistently see I get a stronger and better signal from my Verizon Droid X phone. Even when I had the (AT&T) iPhone 4 (3G) I saw the weak signal and slow speeds.
Anyway, back to the topic of this thread. Yes, you're not alone. This Atrix is pretty disappointing being a "4G" phone and all. Last night while at home I tried watching videos from several sources on this Atrix. Fox Television, Hulu Plus, and Crackle all complained about "a network error" and would take forever to load a video if it didn't error out first and then it was really poor quality complared to what I experience on my old 3G Verizon Droid X. If that wasn't bad enough I even got the network errors popup when I would move around in the Market looking at apps and such.
I am planning on upgrading my personal phone to the Droid Bionic when it is released next month but alas that phone is not "global ready" so I will see what I can do with this Atrix once I get root on it just so I can have a "world phone" as a backup.
Atrix 4G HSDPA+ speeds
I'm glad I'm not the only one!
I'm currently just outside of Princeton, NJ... running the speedtest.net application:
H+ data, 4-5 bars connectivity
Ping: 99ms
Download: 53kbps (yes, k)
Upload: 90kpbs
I regularly measure in the 50-80kbps speeds.
When I got my Atrix, I figured HSDPA+ would be faster.....
(yes, I made sure nothing else was using CPU or the data connection - I run this test regularly).
Admittedly, in other areas I've seen as high as 1 Mbps, but it's consistently bad in this area, even given an apparently strong signal.
I do not share your frustrations. I am on Bell in Canada and average 2 mbps down / 1 mbps up. That's blazing fast for Canada in my books!
Maybe flashing up the latest radio by kenneth (in dev section) may be of some help.
djeuch said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one!
I'm currently just outside of Princeton, NJ... running the speedtest.net application:
H+ data, 4-5 bars connectivity
Ping: 99ms
Download: 53kbps (yes, k)
Upload: 90kpbs
I regularly measure in the 50-80kbps speeds.
When I got my Atrix, I figured HSDPA+ would be faster.....
(yes, I made sure nothing else was using CPU or the data connection - I run this test regularly).
Admittedly, in other areas I've seen as high as 1 Mbps, but it's consistently bad in this area, even given an apparently strong signal.
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Huh???
Look in your settings/about phone and post what network type and radio version you have on there. You should certainly be on HSPA+ now with the rest of the US and probably world.
Is it the phone or the network? Just asking since I have both an AT&T phone and a Verizon phone and have noticed network and download speed issues and am really disappointed with my Atrix.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/03/06/the-four-gees-comparison-which-carrier-should-you-be-looking-to-for-your-4g-android-phone/
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Is it the phone or the network? Just asking since I have both an AT&T phone and a Verizon phone and have noticed network and download speed issues and am really disappointed with my Atrix.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/03/06/the-four-gees-comparison-which-carrier-should-you-be-looking-to-for-your-4g-android-phone/
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The network severely limits non-iphones. Same deal with HTC Inspire, Samsung Infuse, etc. I can usually hit 3-4 MB/s down, 1.5 MB/s up. That's not 4G. It's not the Atrix causing this.
I want to say bye, bye to TW internet, but don't know the best way to make My Razr 4G LTE internet to all PC's,Ps3 and my Xbox 360.
I put it here becouse the Razr forms are small vs this one and Is more about LTE any way.
Thanks
Not really
It's not really the solution you wanted, but assuming you are not trying to tether the world to your cell phone (which should then double nicely as a heater), why not just get a mobile hotspot and be done with it.
I hate my TWC wires (2 cables spanning 2 neighbors yards) and have pulled twice the speed on my Rezound than I am getting from TWC (although not at home, regrettably). I say this because I understand your frustration first hand; I just disagree with your proposed resolution.
looked into this a bit, my conclusion was that:
1) unless you have a fairly small network (ie just yourself), you're going to need to go the route of the mobile hotspot.
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2) the mobile hotspot hardware currently available isn't reliable enough to trust as a dedicated home internet solution.
Don't be fooled I use mine for everything and I pay for unlimited mobile hotspot. Just can't use everything at onces.
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I wouldnt recommend using your phone or any wireless solution for gaming, the ping is too high.
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I wouldnt recommend using your phone or any wireless solution for gaming, the ping is too high.
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I get only maybe 20-30ms higher on my phone tether vs my FiOS.
If you are dead set on doing this, I would use your PC/Laptop as a network bridge. You should be able to connect the LAN cable to your PC and then into where your modem would plug into your router. But, you would have to setup your router first, or connect it via USB to setup since you wouldn't be able to use the provider software or the IP to connect in through that port. Just an idea, but like others said, reliability could probably be zero.
Let me tell you the "reliability" of my TW cable internet right now: It gos form 7-10DL to 3 and then even to under 1, 2-4 times A DAY. It go's out at times too, so I can't see it geting more bad then that.
P.S I am "dead set" on having home internet that has good up time and able to play 1080p video if needed.
Time Warner doesn't offer a package higher than 10mbps? Why not just get Fios or something? Have you even called TW? I had an issue like this a few years back (With a provider in GA I can't remember the name) where I wasn't getting the 25mbps I was paying for. They came out and tested my modem and it was dying. They replaced it, and it worked from then on out. It was even a modem I paid for myself, they gave me a new one and took the old one free of charge.
Koush posted that Tether is in the Android Market now.
I pay for 15DL and 1UL, But am only geting 6-10DL and .5UL. I think it's BS, but I can't poof that to them. I Have used all kinds of speed test and they all never hit more than 11-12DL and 1UL. LTE has been about the same on DL at home after the outges and DEC the 25th. ( It was geting 10-15DL and now its 4-10DL and 5-6UL.)
Now I am a bit mad at the big red, becuase on AT&T my speeds have been going up and Up and up. (I think AT&T Is about toput up LTE here soon)
LTE is extremelt cool, and will only get better. But as of right now, I wouldn't call it reliable enough to handle an entire house full of bandwidth-hungry devices.
My At&T U-Verse internet advertises up to 25mBps. This, to the average user, probably sounds like more than one would ever need. But what they don't tell you is that each TV (when its box is on) takes up to 6mBps of that bandwidth all by itself. So if you've got 2 HDTVs running in the house, and somebody gaming online, suddenly that internet speed ain't lookin' all that cutting-edge.
According to what I've gleaned from the small amount of research I've done, you need a solid 10mBps to stream 1080p HD content without bottlenecking. The top AT&T U-verse package I have can do it all day long, while also handling whatever else may be using bandwidth. I would worry about any plan below the top one though. Maybe if you only have one HDTV connection in the house.
I tried tethering off my phone when temp-root v2 came out, and I was impressed with the results. But I was also realistic about it. My tether speed tests came in at roughly 6-7mBps downloaded. Not bad in a pinch, but certainly nowhere near good enough to power a whole house. And certainly not good enough to stream HD.
I don't think the idea of a phone providing internet for the home far off, but we just aren't there yet. I'm thinking in 5-10 years.
If you want to use your phone as your home internet service, pm me. I've been using mine for my home for the last 4 years, cuz I don't have dsl. It's awesome, and I can help you get it up and running. I've averaged 40-50gb per month for the past 3 years. PM me.
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I used 30Gb and I saw my speed in my home go down, but at work it would be fast as ever with 5 bars. My billing just started to day and my DL is now in the 20+ vs 5-7 DL before. I think I got my speeds lowered for useing 30gb. Any way TW sucks even more with that.
I have a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel I have more videos on youtube and tons on siting on my SD card. I had only used 12GB and this is what they did and even the new phone does it, so if phone=good, network=fine and I got a new sim so it=fine.
More videos:
1)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUyt2R69Ya4&feature=channel
2)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ozWxWYPgI8&feature=relmfu
3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzvVb79-Qg&feature=channel
4)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPlolDGtfs&feature=relmfu
5)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgDnByyo0tw&feature=channel
2nd phone videos:
1)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOo4q4qGZCc
2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckRYSNuAtXc&feature=channel
3)http://youtu.be/l1L_EZVEsHw
So Then whats left?
Throttling thats what
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Update: I just pulled this "there actually HAS been 4g throttling cases. if you use a **** ton of data on an unlimited plan they will throttle you. a guy on rootzwiki i think the galaxy nexus forums, had data throttling on 4g and the customer service lady said it was because he was in the top 5% of users :/" (Link:http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14945-yes-verizon-does-throttle-4g/page__st__50)
Eat it haters
Update2: This a vs video. Verizon throttled 4G vs verizon not throttled 4G. Eat that. If you guys want, I will go back and ask to swap sims with one of the phones on the foor. (I don't think they would let me make a video of it)
Link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbvDEewcJU
I fixed no more 600kbs. Oh yea
Update3: It has come back, so now I went to the FCC and the BBB.
Based on the Hotspot app, your signal, and your battery status all going completely crazy in this video I'd guess your phone needs to be wiped or replaced. Throttling is generally making the internet slower, not making your phone act crazy.
That was the first phone in that video. I will upload videos with the new phone soon and they are not like that. That phone was wiped and it still did it. replacement still some times gives me 600kbs with data droping on 4G. I think I am being throttled, but can't poof it yet.
Every rep I talk to about this seems to know more than they are letting on, when I ask about throttling. It's all ways to the book, like some one is doing flash cards they HAVE TO READ and THEN TELL ME WHAT THEY SAY.
It really piss's me off, they can't just come out with it so I know what the limit is.
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I have a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel I have more videos on youtube and tons on siting on my SD card. I had only used 12GB and this is what they did and even the new phone does it, so if phone=good, network=fine and I got a new sim so it=fine.
More videos:
1)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUyt2R69Ya4&feature=channel
2)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ozWxWYPgI8&feature=relmfu
3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzvVb79-Qg&feature=channel
4)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPlolDGtfs&feature=relmfu
5)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgDnByyo0tw&feature=channel
So Then whats left?
Throttling thats what
Comment now
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No, this is NOT throttling. Verizon is VERY clear and up front on how they deal with high data usage. They will reduce your data speed but only in areas of congestion and only while the congestion is occurring.
BUT- are you saying you used 12gb of data in one billing period? REALLY?
12 gb of data on 4g is not that much... I have unlimited plan as well.
My ISP was being bad to me, so Netflix and youtube did most of that. The videos are of the first phone. I will try and upload videos of the 2nd phone later today.
That's definitely not throttling. That's the phone dropping connection. Things would be a lot more stable if you weren't tethering while using 1080p video, I'll bet you the phone is getting really hot and trying to drop 4G so it can cool down. Are you on the newest OTA update?
In that video that may be the case, but I have some videos I am about to upload that have nothing to do with 1080p video or tethering.
The odd thing is 3G acts a lot better than this. It was slow, but it held. 4G is like 11mbs to 100kbs. It sucks so much that I use my S2 most of the time and have used 8.9GB in 6 days. (Thats what the ICS data use app says. I don't know how much AT&T thinks I have used.)
A new set of videos is going up now.
I know I've said this before and I'll say it again, this is NOT throttling. If it was throttling, you would keep 4G but it would be extremely slow download speeds. The videos look like you might have an issue with the 4G radio. Get the phone replaced, be nice about it and make sure the rep knows that it's your third phone. Make sure they give you a brand new SIM card as well.
Thay would not give me a new phone. They put a low proity ticket in and said to call back on 4/11/2012. I think they are BSing me.
Edit: I used my s2 to send this miss typed post. Lol
Verizon 4g should read: up to 10x slower than AT&T's 3g. I meen that for real, 600kbs vs 6000kbs.
BS. I use up to 90 to 100 gb's some months and others I only use 10 gb's or so and my speeds never slow. That is not throttling and I'm pretty sure VZW hasn't figured out how to throttle LTE/4G yet.
Now the throttling on congested networks makes sense and I am in the city of Chicago which I assume Verizon isn't too congested being that almost all my friends are on Sprint and AT&T.
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Verizon 4g should read: up to 10x slower than AT&T's 3g. I meen that for real, 600kbs vs 6000kbs.
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You're trippin...
Ive got unlim data with VZ and have NEVER gotten throttled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476109
Ive used up to 102 GB in a single billing cycle and all was well. I use 20-30 in a normal month.
Currently im 9 days into my billing cycle and have used 15.688GB.
I regulary hit 30-40 Mbps down and 10-20 Mbps down
^ Mirrors my results.
I am about to upload a new video to proof me right. I just went into a verizon store and did a VS. I went into a AT&T store too, but did not do a VS video in there. The AT&T LTE would have killed my speeds x50. Yes AT&T and verizon have LTE were I live.
I've had my phone for 5 months and haven't even used 4g because its still not available where I live. I'm extremely happy when I even get 1mb/s download.
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So what are you saying I should do? Throttling or not, the point is I am having a issue with my data connetion. If you think it's fine, good for you then.
I don't know what else it could be. I asked a rep in the store if he would give me a new sim card, but he would not do it and told me to call tech and then I said screw it. I reported that jerk.( No I did not, but now I wish I did.)
Over all I have to say this sucks and the guy in the AT&T store said "yea that must suck". I showed them how much data I used and he said they must throttle quick.
Verizon 4G LTE 2/10. 1 point for working half way and 1 for the upload works right most of the time.
Going by a lot of threads you start you like to complain.....and I'm guessing that's how you act in every day life away from the internet, hence why you're getting nowhere with VZW. I think you have a lemon of a phone/razr. I don't believe it has anything to do with VZW's network.
I have been very nice with the reps and under stand it's not them doing this to me. To think I act this way or that in "real life" is a big jump.
Edit: I have been playing this like a chess game, looking for the longer term play. I have a "plan" and I think the phone coming out on the 12th will play a nice roll into this. I wanted to have so much proof my phone is craped up they would give me a new one on the spot. The last time I did not have all this "proof" I had to call TW cable over and over. ( I was geting sup 1mbs out of it.) When they came out, they were like I don't get it. I was like I am paying for 10/1 and you are giving me 1/1. When he did the "speedtest" it read 7mbs. And I was like it was slow before. So he left. And bam 1mbs by the way. That took forever to fix.
So do you see why I am doing this? If no, good for you then.
I think Verizon is a "lemon".
I dont understand half of what you're trying to say.
Running Speedtest just now and seeing I only get 9kbps download. I'm on the non-smartphone data plan and never noticed that my navigating or streaming was reflective of such a slow speed. Does that seem a little too slow? Or is it just me?
are you on edge or on 2g...?
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I'm seeing either 3G or H+ indicated.
then there is something wrong with test with 3g you can atleast get 2Mbps....try to load hd video in youtube and see how it goes...
sgs2
Which carrier are you on?
Edit: Checking your last posts seems like you are with AT&T. (correct me if im wrong) 9kbps is definetely way too slow for AT&T. I usually get an average of 3-6Mbps download. Although it is possible the problem is the speedtest. Ive noticed that it sometimes even shows 0-10kbps in certain locations or times.
Just curious... My speeds aren't what they should be. I can't even get through a HD video on YouTube without massive buffering.
I think total me and my wife used about 15-20GBs of data last month.
3G or LTE? As far as I know, they aren't legally allowed to throttle LTE.
Run a speed test. It should be about 3-5 mbits/sec if your throttled on lte.
A good lte speed is about 15-50
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I'm on LTE
I'll have to run a test when I get home as the building doesn't allow for great service. But i ran one a few days ago and I got like 5 mbp/s
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I'm on LTE
I'll have to run a test when I get home as the building doesn't allow for great service. But i ran one a few days ago and I got like 5 mbp/s
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If you can, swap sim cards with someone who has lte and definitely hasn't been throttled.. Then run the test again
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Ok, so ran some tests, speeds are ok. But downloading from the market and watching HD in the YouTube are not good. Market downloads crawl along and YouTube constantly buffer. Any ideas?
Sense 3.6 ROM...
I wonder. What might your signal strength be at the time you are trying to use data? I'm not talking about what it says in the signal strength indicator in the status bar but in the settings rather.
Got four bars..
First number is teetering in the mid to high 90s, second number stays a steady 8. I'm on a global ROM.
Your sppeds can depend on your area. I know where I live I can have 4 bars and be from 3 to 10 Mbps. Now if I go in to town I can get 15 to 20. Then if I go to my uncles place in the middle of no where I get 20 to 35. Just because you have 4g doesn't mean you are going to download at those speeds with play store. It depends on their servers and how congested their servers are. I have been on WiFi that had killer speeds and it still downloaded at the same speeds. Verizon doesn't throttle by your sim card but by tower location. If a tower get a lot of congestion they will cut the speeds of everyone so everyone can use the data. Once the congestion goes away they put the speeds back.
With that said I have heard people talk about when they check their account there is something on their account that means they are the top 5 percent and are throttled. I use from 50 to 75 gigs a month and never seen this throttling.
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Absolutely what Jedi said. According to the signal strength I asked you to provide, everything seems in order. What I would do now if you are still concerned is just contact VZW about the issue and see if something may be going on in your area.
This happened to me before when I lived 30 miles out into the country, I had to contact VZW because my phone was getting slow speeds even though the signal seemed ok. They ran some tests and such and finally contacted me back informing me indeed a recent storm had caused the box on the nearest tower to be struck by lightning. They sent out crews and within a few hours my area was restored to full strength again. This may not be your case, but it might be worth it because VSW told me if I had not contacted them, they would not have known for a long time. Just a thought.
I'll have to call then. Just ran speed test, got 22mbp/s. Updated some apps. Download speed crawled. Turned ny home Wi-Fi on, speeds starting flying. Something is definitely wrong...
I don't know about you guys but I wouldn't use YouTube as a reliable test. YouTube has begun throttling video streaming especially during peak hours. I can't hardly stream an SD video around 6:00 anymore.
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I don't know about you guys but I wouldn't use YouTube as a reliable test. YouTube has begun throttling video streaming especially during peak hours. I can't hardly stream an SD video around 6:00 anymore.
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6pm eastern?
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6pm eastern?
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Yup.
Hmm... 6-8pm seems to be when I experience it haha