For anyone who's NOT on a LEAKED version of 2.1, you can still Root.
We have verified that the PB00IMG.zip goes through its checking process, and asks to update. It looks very much like the Root PB00IMG.zip IS able to be flashed over any phones that went from 1.5 to OTA 2.1.
So anyone who's holding back on going from 1.5 to OTA 2.1, for fear that they wont' be able to root, let your fears disappear.
Special thanks to ssgtob1 from AndroidForums.com who bravely tested booting up in HBOOT with the Root PB00IMG.zip on his SD card.
Thank you for your help, and anyone who DIDN'T leak, we STILL have you covered for Root. Go ahead and follow any set of normal directions for 1.5 to root, and you should be all set to Root your phone.
FOR LEAKERS: Some exploits are still being explored. I hope something comes to fruition. You will know as soon as anyone knows. I promise.
Thanks,
Paul
Peed on yet again leaking sucks. All I know is patience is a virtue I will forever remember to have after this phone. Guess im going to update to v3 leak from v1 since cannot update.
edgeupgx said:
Peed on yet again leaking sucks. All I know is patience is a virtue I will forever remember to have after this phone. Guess im going to update to v3 leak from v1 since cannot update.
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Maybe you should continue to be patient with v1?.....
So, Ive updated to the OTA and did not have root on my 1.5 when I updated. Are you saying that even though I have done this that I can still root? If so, which tutorial/directions should I follow?
Don't worry, two things have been confirmed.
First the OTA will not work with the leaked ROMs installed.
Second, the OTA is exactly the same as the 2.1 leak v3.
This was confirmed on Android-forum by someone that took the time to compare every single file and CRC the binaries. The only difference was that the leaked ROMs use a different bootloader to install as they did and the actual OS and apps are exactly the same so if you got leak v3 you got the OTA.
The OTA won't install because you are already running it. The only down side is you still cannot root, but otherwise you have as good or better than the OTA.
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So far, I have not come across a cooked ROM for root that does not have bugs or that functions as well as the OTA (which also has a few bugs). I'm hoping that the development will continue or even increase so we will have better ROMs soon.
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So, Ive updated to the OTA and did not have root on my 1.5 when I updated. Are you saying that even though I have done this that I can still root? If so, which tutorial/directions should I follow?
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The exact directions, as if you were 1.5. You have a few options. If you have Windows, an easy way to go about it is this:\
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661413
The manual method does, literally, the EXACT same thing, it's just a teeny bit more technical, but you learn a lot about your phone in the process (that you wouldn't have learned using the Eris Master Application). If you're pretty technical (or using Mac OSX or Unix or Linux) then I would use the following tutorial (except, if you have Unix/Linux, you don't have to worry about drivers, and it's "./adb" instead of "adb" when you're running commands).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647707
Good luck!
DigitalMD said:
So far, I have not come across a cooked ROM for root that does not have bugs or that functions as well as the OTA (which also has a few bugs). I'm hoping that the development will continue or even increase so we will have better ROMs soon.
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I must vouch for Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 being as bugless as the OTA, in my experience. This guy's been cooking ROMs for all kinds of phones for YEARS, and knows what he's doing. 100% clean, looks like stock, and is a lot faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
Root after 2.1 OTA upgrade from 1.5
OK,
Let me get this straight and understand it crystal clear. Are you saying that an Eris with 1.5 without root can get the 2.1 OTA upgrade and later get root? Has anyone done this? Hoping it's true as I just got the OTA and installed it based on this thread. BTW, 2.1 .......NICE!
Bill
bczygan said:
OK,
Let me get this straight and understand it crystal clear. Are you saying that an Eris with 1.5 without root can get the 2.1 OTA upgrade and later get root? Has anyone done this?
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Yes it is possible, and yes it has been done. I believe if you got the 2.1 OTA from a stock 1.5, the documented root method will work fine.
If you got 2.1 from any of the three leaks, you are stuck without root.
(Someone correct me if I'm wrong though! )
Add on question about rooting the OTA 2.1
I amn in the process of trying to root from the 2.1 OTA. Am I correct in thinking that following the walkthrough, that I will be replacing the OTA with another ROM which is functionally the same, but not the same exact one? Can I later redo the OTA from a file? Will this eliminate root?
Bill
bczygan said:
I amn in the process of trying to root from the 2.1 OTA. Am I correct in thinking that following the walkthrough, that I will be replacing the OTA with another ROM which is functionally the same, but not the same exact one? Can I later redo the OTA from a file? Will this eliminate root?
Bill
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Following the walkthrough OR using the Eris Master Application (if you have Windows) will work JUST fine. (even though those things say you NEED 1.5, that's not exactly true, because OTA 2.1 works as well).
Once you Root, put a Recovery on there, then flash a nice ROM from Recovery, you will flash a ROM (like Ivan's Eris_Official_1.0) that has AT LEAST the exact same functionality as the OTA.
Later, if you want, you can follow the method documented on http://www.androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/ in the All Things Root section, and click on AcidBath's thread, stickied at the top (then scroll about one page down) for DOWNGRADING from Root 2.1 back to Stock 1.5 (yes it is possible), then follow the tutorial for applying the MANUAL OTA update.
This will take you back from Rooted 2.1 back to OTA 2.1, if you should so choose (though I can't think of a good reason why you'd do that).
Once you have root, and you're using things like WiFi tether and so on, I'm guessing you won't go back. But the option IS available. And yes, if you go back to 1.5 then manual OTA, you will lose root, but you can GET IT BACK the same way you're getting it right now.
pkopalek - Very good info.
I'd just like to add that I manual upgraded from 1.5 to OTA 2.1 and hated it,
and found it possible to go from OTA 2.1 back down to 1.5..and I found the
process to be much easier than the manual OTA install.
I'd like to root now but after reading your instructions, (android forums site is
down right now), I'm still confused.
Root after 2.1 OTA upgrade from 1.5
I did the root last night. Took a while, but everything worked good. I now have recovery and can try other ROMS. Not quite sure yet how to access root or use su. But I love the wireless tethering. Using it right now. Used to use a wired tether program but this is better. I did lose all my apps and settings, but will rebuild it all. I don't think I'll use the OTA again. Love having root. Thanks to all who make this possible.
Bill
BlazeD OnE said:
pkopalek - Very good info.
I'd just like to add that I manual upgraded from 1.5 to OTA 2.1 and hated it,
and found it possible to go from OTA 2.1 back down to 1.5..and I found the
process to be much easier than the manual OTA install.
I'd like to root now but after reading your instructions, (android forums site is
down right now), I'm still confused.
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Rooting, you just follow the directions for Rooting a 1.5 phone. If you're on the OTA, that's fine, if you're on 1.5, that's fine. The directions are 100% exactly the same.
The link I posted above was for DOWNGRADING from Root 2.1 to normal 1.5. Ignore that. Here's where you want to be:
The Eris Master App works GREAT if you have Windows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661413
Or do the normal manual Rooting method (it's exactly the same thing, just the App does the commands for you, or you do it yourself -- this is the method that I use, every time):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647707
I suggest Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 for a ROM, instead of 0.8t2 or whatever is suggested in that thread (that thread is kind of old).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
bczygan said:
I did the root last night. Took a while, but everything worked good. I now have recovery and can try other ROMS. Not quite sure yet how to access root or use su. But I love the wireless tethering. Using it right now. Used to use a wired tether program but this is better. I did lose all my apps and settings, but will rebuild it all. I don't think I'll use the OTA again. Love having root. Thanks to all who make this possible.
Bill
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I recommend Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 for you too. Download and put it on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
Boot your phone into recovery, do Backup/Restore > nand backup (to back up your phone) then go back to main menu (volume down), Wipe > Wipe factory/data reset, wipe Dalvik Cache (both), back to main menu (volume down), Flash Zip from SD Card, flash Ivan's Eris_Official.
You'll be doing great.
ALSO:
anyone who's rooting and flashing these ROMs should also be flashing the latest Radio that comes with the OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6469408&postcount=113
yeah i rooted from the OTA and it worked fine it just took a bit longer than it should've because i had some trouble doing it on a mac but i figured it out eventually.
just follow the instructions and you should be fine *only if you are the 2.1 OTA or 1.5*
Hi! I'm on 2.1 OTA, and my droid Eris has never been modified in any way at a software or hardware level. I am running HBOOT 1.47.0000. Whenever I use the PB00IMG.ZIP (of which I have checked the MD5 sums) and reboot into the bootloader screen (The one with "HBOOT" and searches for images) I always get "No Image or wrong image!" and am never presented with the option of "push activate" as a result. Any tips? Yes, the PB00IMG.ZIP is in the root of the SD card. I can't really think that I'm doing anything wrong, as I've read the instructions a billion times, and checked every site with instructions, to see if there was any variation in methods.
Any input or tips (other than "don't root your phone" ) would be greatly appreciated!
It Works!!!
I gave up root for the OTA...never again. I'll 2nd (3rd, 4th, etc) if you are on the OTA you can get root. Thank God...so glad to be back. ;-)
Ok so I have what might be a very elementary question. And I apologize in advance if this is not the right thread or just generally a dumb question.
Is there any advantage or disadvantage to rooting from 2.1 OTA vs. 1.5? Also is there any real difference between my phone rooted from 1.5 and my wife's phone rooted from 2.1?
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Ok so I have what might be a very elementary question. And I apologize in advance if this is not the right thread or just generally a dumb question.
Is there any advantage or disadvantage to rooting from 2.1 OTA vs. 1.5? Also is there any real difference between my phone rooted from 1.5 and my wife's phone rooted from 2.1?
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As far as I understand it, after rooting, you will have both of the phones on 2.1 rooted.
If I switch back to stock and download the OTA will I lose root? If so I'm assuming if I re-root the way I did the first time I would be just canceling out the update. Would that be correct?
Sounds like you are rooted now. I would not doing anything. In the past I would let the update drop and not take it. It's only a matter of time before someone pulls what is needed from the official update and applies it to a rom. I feel it's just easier that way. You keep root and don't loose the freedom of trying new roms.
The ota has been out. The only difference is it is official and not leaked. Most, if not all the devs have updated their roms with the newer verision. If you download a signed ruu you will lose root, and there is no sure thing that the exploit has changed, thus making the older root process still usable.
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Hey guys, sorry to bother everyone with another question about the update but there are a few things I could really use clarification on if it's not too much trouble.'
I'm currently on 1.57, gingerbreak rooted, gladi ROM and sbf flashed the hsupa radio. I can't really find anything about what's done in the update so i can't even tell if it'd be worth it for me to update. Will anything happen if I don't update? I didn't have any problems with my iphone when I skipped over 3 or 4 updates...just want to make sure nothing bad will happen.
Next, if I do want to update (which I don't think I will because I'm reading that a lot of people have been having problems with some things) if there a program I can use to save all of my rooted features and re-apply them after I've updated? I read about beforeupdate and afterupdate but I can't find any information about what they do and if they'll do what I'm looking for.
I'm thinking that with this update being buggy, moto will have to roll out another update pretty soon and maybe I should just wait for that one.
Here you go: Release Notes from Motorola
I accepted the update like 30 hours ago, retained root - No problems or issues here! Everything seems to be working fine.
You can use Titanium Backup to backup your user apps, I would recommend NEVER BACKUP/RESTORE SYSTEM APPS because you can get a lot of force closes and stuff.. Thats happened to me in the past.
http://goo.gl/EyexL
If you have the time and the patience, go back to 1.26 and OTA update to 1.83. The majority of the problems your reading about are from phones that are modded and have been altered and then updated. I had similar issues with my phone after the update, much like the others your reading about. Not staying up to date on official updates could leave you in the dark if a new update comes out and you find yourself stuck with a phone that cant be updated (easily). The 1.87 radio works but made my Atrix hot and chewed up battery. Im not saying its going to make a difference for you, With titanium backup and gingerbreak available now, its easy peasy to root and bring your phone back to your liking very quickly.
Beforeupdate and Afterupdate are used to retain root across upgrades. Gingerbreak is easier(click click, launch= rooted)
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I accepted the update like 30 hours ago, retained root - No problems or issues here! Everything seems to be working fine.
You can use Titanium Backup to backup your user apps, I would recommend NEVER BACKUP/RESTORE SYSTEM APPS because you can get a lot of force closes and stuff.. Thats happened to me in the past.
http://goo.gl/EyexL
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so you're saying you updated without flashing back or anything (without changing ANY settings) and you retained everything?
spitefulcheerio said:
so you're saying you updated without flashing back or anything (without changing ANY settings) and you retained everything?
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That is correct. I was on 1.57 rooted w/ GladRoot, NO MODS. I accepted the update, ran "afterupdate" from the GladRoot .zip. Now I'm on rooted and on 1.83.
EDIT: You cannot use this method btw since you have modded. You have to sbf first.
Dirtburgler said:
If you have the time and the patience, go back to 1.26 and OTA update to 1.83. The majority of the problems your reading about are from phones that are modded and have been altered and then updated. I had similar issues with my phone after the update, much like the others your reading about. Not staying up to date on official updates could leave you in the dark if a new update comes out and you find yourself stuck with a phone that cant be updated (easily). The 1.87 radio works but made my Atrix hot and chewed up battery. Im not saying its going to make a difference for you, With titanium backup and gingerbreak available now, its easy peasy to root and bring your phone back to your liking very quickly.
Beforeupdate and Afterupdate are used to retain root across upgrades. Gingerbreak is easier(click click, launch= rooted)
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Yeah i know I once I'm updated, I can root again but I've downloaded tons of apps and changed so many settings to get this phone to run exactly how I want. I've spent a good amount of time changing little things here and there and I don't want to lose all of it!
Is there away to retain all of this information through some kind of backup or something? I have all my apps and user data backed up with TiBackup. If I go back to 1.26 and then update to 1.83, can i restore using TiBackup?
im not too keen on titanium backup other than how to use it for the most part lol. The static phone settings will be defaulted to shipping state if you go back to 1.26. there may be a way to do what you are trying but that's out of my league. These is a setting in Titanium to transfer phone settings across Rom's but i've never tried nor have i seen it on the Atrix Forum. (I never really looked for it, didnt need it, so there may be a thread on it.)
The fact that you have Gladiatrix Rom throws a wrench into the whole easy update thing. Check This if you havent already----- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063618
same here i have no problem
WiredPirate said:
That is correct. I was on 1.57 rooted w/ GladRoot, NO MODS. I accepted the update, ran "afterupdate" from the GladRoot .zip. Now I'm on rooted and on 1.83.
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Exactly what I did and everything is working fine. Ran afterupdate after the 1.83 OTA and things are working great~! everything retained
Asus keeps pushing me to upgrade to Ics and from what I understand, I can only delay this update three times before I forces me to do it? I haven't had any crashes on HC but still nervous about going to ICS since this is my second prime (first one had rebooting issues).
Any way to downgrade to 3.2 yet just in case?
I don't think so, especially not if you load the current 9.4.2.11 version as you cannot even root with that one. I don't think a downgrade is going to be possible until we get an unlocked bootloader. I highly recommend you root and use OTA Rootkeeper if you decide to take the plunge. I was nervous to upgrade too. I think if you disable (or freeze with titanium backup which requires root) all the ASUS apps you would not get rebooting. At least it seems to have fixed the issue for a lot of people. Just don't delete them...
If you really are that worried I would wait until the next patch comes out that is supposed to address the remaining reboot issues before you update. You aren't missing much.
Why not just go to ICS. The update went VERY smooth for myself and it seems to be snappier, with better browser performance. The ICS issues effect a minority.
Cheers!
Answer: No (as of 1/19/12 4:00PST)
I've searched high and low (xda forums and elsewhere) There appears to be no downgrade methods publicly available to date. If you have yet to run the initial OTA update, you should root (viperMod/ TSSparky), use Voodoo OTA rootkeeper, and then accept the Asus OTA update.
Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
bobstone said:
Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
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Just wait for a rooted stock ROM based on the OTA to be made by a dev. You never NEED to take an OTA.
Thanks but im not sure what you mean. I have no interest in loading custom roms nor over-screwing around with the phone. Do you mean wait for another root process or wait for a download for an ota update?
Thanks again
Im guessing you mean a rom will be released again after the ota is out with the ota integrated in it... That process makes me kind of nervous as i need my phone for work as well as personal and cant risk screwing up the phone or erasing data eta...
There is pretty much always someone that releases the stock ROM flashable in a custom recovery so you can have a rooted stock ROM. Look at the dev beanstownm106 ROM in the development section. It is basically the stock ROM rooted with some very minor tweaks, but flashable with a custom recovery like TWRP.
BUT...there is almost never anything you can't do with basically any ROM that you can do with the stock ROM. So you really don't need the stock ROM...some people just prefer it. For my old Thunderbolt, it was pretty well known that for a long time there was a custom ROM, very similar to the stock ROM, that was more stable than stock (SkyRaider Zeus).
Another BUT: if you need Good for work, prepare for a constant fight with root detection. And you will want to back up your data often. I have a BB for work that I leave untouched (its not mine).
One more thing...the Loki workaround has its advantages...the bootloader is still locked and untouched, so it would be pretty hard to brick the device because you can get back into download mode and use odin to flash back to factory.
Whats the loki workaround? Also, im dont want to be doing any kind of flashing... I just simply want to root the s4 (which i now have) and be able to run ota updates or if not, download the ota and install the update manually. And if i get an ota, if it will kill root, even if i run voodoo.
Please, if someone could, let us all know if ota wont run or will kill root on say the s3 or s4 and if downloadable updates are another option... without flashing anything or going to crazy.
Thanks again in advance.