Sending/Receiving MMS Without Data On - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Since rooting my phone I have been unable to send or receive mms without having data truned on. I recently flashed miui and noticed there was a toggle to enable receiving mms even though data was turned off. It works great. I like miui but may switch back to unnamed or ICScrewD. Is the way to have this options with other roms, or is this just a rom specific feature?
Thanks
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gadget069 said:
Since rooting my phone I have been unable to send or receive mms without having data truned on. I recently flashed miui and noticed there was a toggle to enable receiving mms even though data was turned off. It works great. I like miui but may switch back to unnamed or ICScrewD. Is the way to have this options with other roms, or is this just a rom specific feature?
Thanks
sent from my SGH-I777 w/Tapatalk
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Its impossible to receive MMS with data off. I dont care what MIUI says. IMPOSSIBLE to receive data with it truly off. obviously in MIUI the toggle will selectively turn off data, and will turn it back on automatically to download a MMS message.

gadget069 said:
Since rooting my phone I have been unable to send or receive mms without having data truned on. I recently flashed miui and noticed there was a toggle to enable receiving mms even though data was turned off. It works great. I like miui but may switch back to unnamed or ICScrewD. Is the way to have this options with other roms, or is this just a rom specific feature?
Thanks
sent from my SGH-I777 w/Tapatalk
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+1 this would be a great feature for other Rom.. Especially for those of us with 200mb data plans
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gadget069 said:
Since rooting my phone I have been unable to send or receive mms without having data truned on. I recently flashed miui and noticed there was a toggle to enable receiving mms even though data was turned off. It works great. I like miui but may switch back to unnamed or ICScrewD. Is the way to have this options with other roms, or is this just a rom specific feature?
Thanks
sent from my SGH-I777 w/Tapatalk
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Rom specific. UNLESS, you try Tasker. I can't confirm it works, but if you already have the app, try it.
I was just able to set up a profile that would theoretically work. Upon receiving MMS, turn mobile data on, and for exit task, disable mobile data (or add in wait task action, then disable mobile data).

Simba501 said:
Rom specific. UNLESS, you try Tasker. I can't confirm it works, but if you already have the app, try it.
I was just able to set up a profile that would theoretically work. Upon receiving MMS, turn mobile data on, and for exit task, disable mobile data (or add in wait task action, then disable mobile data).
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Thats what my had done, i had data off but could send and receive mms. It would turn on to grab the mms then turn off. That's miui is doing, but there is a toggle in the network settings to do this. I'll have to take a look at tasker when i try a different rom.

Hate to necro a thread, but did any viable solution surface over the years? This is, to this day, my main gripe with Android - dumb phone, since it doesn't even have a protocol written into base rom to distinguish ALL data and just MMS data.

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[Q] Can't send MMS in MiniCM7Pro v21

As the topic's title suggests, the installation of this wonderful ROM disabeled mms functionality. In the conversation window the message status is Sending... Settings are correct, I checked them with my carrier. What could be wrong? This is the second installation of the same ROM, and I have the same problem again.
aleedee said:
As the topic's title suggests, the installation of this wonderful ROM disabeled mms functionality. In the conversation window the message status is Sending... Settings are correct, I checked them with my carrier. What could be wrong? This is the second installation of the same ROM, and I have the same problem again.
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It's a problem with all ROM's based on Cyanogenmod 7. When using stock the phone automatically activates mobile data to send and recieve MMS. Cyanogenmod doesn't, its been listed on their bug-tracker so they are aware of it but nothing has been done yet.
To send MMS you have to turn mobile data on, and make sure your APN settings are correct
Mobile data is on and my mms settings are correct, I cheched them. Is there any log file that I could upload?
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aleedee said:
Mobile data is on and my mms settings are correct, I cheched them. Is there any log file that I could upload?
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Try rebooting the phone then turn mobile data on, but make sure that wifi is off. Then resend the message. The log file won't mean much to me I'm afraid!
lol...people still use MMSs nowadays?
LOL, people still think sms and email are almighty? How do I send a picture to someone, that doesn't use email on his not-so-smart-phone?
Don't tell me I'm the only one with this problem??
Could a complete wipe out and reflash fix this problem? I also get FC when taking pictures with the camera, so I'm thinking about starting from scratch...
No, you're not the only one. I have the exact same problem. I am trying every possible setting for the mms APN, turned off and on the data communication, rebooted the phone again and again - no mms, send or receive.
I guess we'll have to keep on searching for a solution...
I'm gonna try reflash... Let you know if it works...
Reflashing didn't help, and I can't post it to the official theme, because I don't have enough posts....
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coversnail said:
It's a problem with all ROM's based on Cyanogenmod 7. When using stock the phone automatically activates mobile data to send and recieve MMS. Cyanogenmod doesn't, its been listed on their bug-tracker so they are aware of it but nothing has been done yet.
To send MMS you have to turn mobile data on, and make sure your APN settings are correct
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maybe enable national roaming data. just in case your carrier roams on another carriers network.
what messaging app you using?
For those who really need/want 2.3.7 and
MMS working I can recommand StornMix V2.
I also tried several ROMs and I could not get
MMS working.
Unfortunately StornMix V2 has the following problems:
- sym-key on hardware keyboard does not work
(there is a fix for this... apply Optional_default_keyboard.zip via CWM)
- USB tethering is not 100% stable
amidsm said:
For those who really need/want 2.3.7 and
MMS working I can recommand StornMix V2.
I also tried several ROMs and I could not get
MMS working.
Unfortunately StornMix V2 has the following problems:
- sym-key on hardware keyboard does not work
(there is a fix for this... apply Optional_default_keyboard.zip via CWM)
- USB tethering is not 100% stable
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Is there anyone that has a link or a copy of Optional_default_keyboard.zip due to the problem with multiupload?

Data Roaming

Does Data Roaming include text messages, or just 'data' (like Gmail, internet, etc)?
I am traveling outside the country and my Data Roaming is checked off, I have no intention of paying AT&T their outrageous fees for data, but I also do NOT want to receive any text messages. How do I disable receiving unwanted text messages while abroad?
Thanks.
I believe you just uncheck the package data option and no data can be used.
I don't think disabling data will block incoming SMS. You would need to call AT&T and have them disable incoming texts, then re-enable when you return.
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Most messaging apps have auto retrieve while roaming box to check or uncheck in main settings.Not sure what it does or doesn't do when left unchecked.
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Most messaging apps have auto retrieve while roaming box to check or uncheck in main settings. Not sure what it will or won't doi if not checked.
Anything that isn't a phone call is considered data. Text messages within your plan shouldn't count, but you never know once you leave the country.
Miami_Son said:
Anything that isn't a phone call is considered data. Text messages within your plan shouldn't count, but you never know once you leave the country.
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I believe this is the case, in that my mother in law gets miniscule data usage reported on her bill on the random occasions she gets a SMS message. However, I believe SMS are carried strictly over the cellular voice network, so I don't think they will be blocked from coming in if the OP only blocks data. As I use GV for texts and don't have an SMS plan, I don't wanna pay to test this myself (yeah I'm a cheapskate, it's only 20 cents). Try shutting off packet data and have someone send you an SMS..
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adfurgerson said:
Most messaging apps have auto retrieve while roaming box to check or uncheck in main settings. Not sure what it will or won't doi if not checked.
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Thanks. Funny, I didn't even think about checking the settings.
The only setting that I believe refers to general messaging (as oppose to specific text or specific MMS) is Push Messages - Receive push messages from network. Obviously there is no explanation as to what it means
Any idea?
BTW - if I do find a 'market' messaging app which allows to shut it off when roaming, how do I completely disable messaging on the stock app? Do I need to remove it from the phone? I kind'a like the stock messaging app (probably because I don't know what I'm missing).
Installing a new messaging app should disable the stock one.
Miami_Son said:
Installing a new messaging app should disable the stock one.
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So I installed Handcent SMS (it has a settings for enabling/disabling Roaming auto retrieve and tested it, but when I checked the stock app my test messages (both in/out) were there. There was no notification of a new SMS, but once I opened the stock, the messages were there.
If you don't open it does it still count just because you received the notification?
adfurgerson said:
If you don't open it does it still count just because you received the notification?
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Yes. It counts because of the traffic through the server, not whether you read it or not. Just like a phone call counts as a minute even if you don't answer it. Any use of the network counts.
adfurgerson said:
If you don't open it does it still count just because you received the notification?
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There is no notification in the stock, I can see the message only if I open it.

Can't send MMS w/o enabling data

Hey, all!
Ever since i've picked up the amaze I've been having a mms bug. Can't send any pics w/o enabling the data first. When i hit send, it does display the 4g icon (i'm on stock ics, but it happened on gb as well), but in a minute or two the error message comes in. Once i enable the data and hit retry, it goes out smooth.
I haven't updated to a new sim-card yet (wi-fi calling wouldn't work on gb with the old one, but ics doesn't seem to mind), not sure if that's something to look into.
Let me know if anyone has any ideas
Thank you!
RussianBear said:
Hey, all!
Ever since i've picked up the amaze I've been having a mms bug. Can't send any pics w/o enabling the data first. When i hit send, it does display the 4g icon (i'm on stock ics, but it happened on gb as well), but in a minute or two the error message comes in. Once i enable the data and hit retry, it goes out smooth.
I haven't updated to a new sim-card yet (wi-fi calling wouldn't work on gb with the old one, but ics doesn't seem to mind), not sure if that's something to look into.
Let me know if anyone has any ideas
Thank you!
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Mms is a data-reliant service, you need data enabled to send or receive. Thus...I would not classify this as a bug...
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Xaelius said:
Mms is a data-reliant service, you need data enabled to send or receive. Thus...I would not classify this as a bug...
Sent from my ParanoidAndroid Tablet Hybrid NS4G with Matr1x-20-cfs @ 800MHz min/1300MHz max
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i've never had a phone that did this. i think i know what the problem is: APN settings for mms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21654890&postcount=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21105129
Downloaded APN Manager and checked my settings with it. Some are not correct. However, this app doesn't work with ICS. Any suggestions on how to change the apn settings on a stock (s-on) ics?
RussianBear said:
i've never had a phone that did this. i think i know what the problem is: APN settings for mms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21654890&postcount=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21105129
Downloaded APN Manager and checked my settings with it. Some are not correct. However, this app doesn't work with ICS. Any suggestions on how to change the apn settings on a stock (s-on) ics?
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Are you kidding me? Somebody hit this guy with a book and glasses, lol.
Dark Nightmare said:
Are you kidding me? Somebody hit this guy with a book and glasses, lol.
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instead of being a douche about it, how about saying something that would actually help?
RussianBear said:
instead of being a douche about it, how about saying something that would actually help?
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Look here
Dark Nightmare said:
Look here
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was it hard to just say you can click on the "mobile network" icon to bring up the settings tab vs the switch, as i had no idea it worked like that now? thank you.
Update: still no dice with the correct settings. 4g icons shows up and then i get the delivery error message. once the data is forced enabled from the drop-down, it's golden. very strange.
Without data enabled, you will not receive nor be able to send out mms. No way around it.
coupetastic-droid said:
Without data enabled, you will not receive nor be able to send out mms. No way around it.
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i understand that, but when sending mms, there should be a trigger (which i can tell it tries to do when i see the 4g icon appear right after hitting "send", except for nothing happens) for the mms data to be enabled just for the time it takes to send a particular mms, otherwise, what's the point to always have data enabled? none of the smartphones i've had, had this happen (sensation included).
RussianBear said:
i understand that, but when sending mms, there should be a trigger (which i can tell it tries to do when i see the 4g icon appear right after hitting "send", except for nothing happens) for the mms data to be enabled just for the time it takes to send a particular mms, otherwise, what's the point to always have data enabled? none of the smartphones i've had, had this happen (sensation included).
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What network are you on?
Sent from an Amaaaaaazing place, you jelly?
I also have this when using ics. When im using gb i dont need to enable data for send mms. I think this is a bad of ics. All my mbile credit will deduct when i enable data becoz an email will update and also a notification from facebook. I hate it! :thumbdown:
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Dark Nightmare said:
What network are you on?
Sent from an Amaaaaaazing place, you jelly?
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t-mob.
mrlongshen said:
I also have this when using ics. When im using gb i dont need to enable data for send mms. I think this is a bad of ics. All my mbile credit will deduct when i enable data becoz an email will update and also a notification from facebook. I hate it! :thumbdown:
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happened on gb as well
RussianBear said:
t-mob.
happened on gb as well
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Go into your apn settings and delete it or simply reset to default, it should auto download the correct settings, no idea how to make mms work WITHOUT data being enabled, I find that odd to be honest, but if it worked on GB, then I think you guys should stick to GB, just to save yourself some dollars.
It has been a while russianbear.. Anywho, what previous people have said is true, if you actually have data DISABLED, it won't come on for anything(how would the phone decide you want it on for MMS, but not something else like browser?). I used to roll around with data disabled a bit when I had gingerbread, so I can confirm it was the exact same way - you had to enable data to send mms - if it was off, nothing data related would work.
If you aren't worried so much about how FAST is sends MMS, you could always set it to 2g only, then your phone simply couldn't send much data at all.. or an awesome feature built into ICS - go to system settings then click usage - turn on set data usage limit, and set it REALLY low - this will keep ANYTHING that uses background data from sending/receiving, but any app you use in the FOREGROUND will work like normal - open browser or youtube and they would work like normal..
I'm sure there's another trick that would work, but I need more coffee.. good to see you again russianbear.
Silentbtdeadly said:
It has been a while russianbear.. Anywho, what previous people have said is true, if you actually have data DISABLED, it won't come on for anything(how would the phone decide you want it on for MMS, but not something else like browser?). I used to roll around with data disabled a bit when I had gingerbread, so I can confirm it was the exact same way - you had to enable data to send mms - if it was off, nothing data related would work.
If you aren't worried so much about how FAST is sends MMS, you could always set it to 2g only, then your phone simply couldn't send much data at all.. or an awesome feature built into ICS - go to system settings then click usage - turn on set data usage limit, and set it REALLY low - this will keep ANYTHING that uses background data from sending/receiving, but any app you use in the FOREGROUND will work like normal - open browser or youtube and they would work like normal..
I'm sure there's another trick that would work, but I need more coffee.. good to see you again russianbear.
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hey, man good to see you as well.
i'm sure i'm not tripping when saying you don't actually need to physically enable the data connection for it to send mms (none of my prior devices needed to) i've downloaded go sms pro and it works like the stock app should - i don't need to enable anything to send mms now (all options in that app are stock also). not a deal-braker to me, but still strange.
RussianBear said:
hey, man good to see you as well.
i'm sure i'm not tripping when saying you don't actually need to physically enable the data connection for it to send mms (none of my prior devices needed to) i've downloaded go sms pro and it works like the stock app should - i don't need to enable anything to send mms now (all options in that app are stock also). not a deal-braker to me, but still strange.
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LOL, that may be why I didn't have issues.. I hate the stock messaging app, so I always used gosms. I'm not sure why you would use that ugly HTC goodness anyways, lol. Good to have you back bro
After much time trying to have MMS working without the data connection being active, I found that putting only "mms" in the APN Type setting does the trick (don't forget to save the settings before exiting the APN settings screen). The problem is that the setting is not applied without RESTARTING the device! So, change the setting to "mms", save, and restart.
You need to have the "Data active" option ticked, but there will (should) be no data connection for internet.
PS: I did this in another device, not the HTC Amaze. But it probably also works for you guys.
DeadVirus said:
After much time trying to have MMS working without the data connection being active, I found that putting only "mms" in the APN Type setting does the trick (don't forget to save the settings before exiting the APN settings screen). The problem is that the setting is not applied without RESTARTING the device! So, change the setting to "mms", save, and restart.
You need to have the "Data active" option ticked, but there will (should) be no data connection for internet.
PS: I did this in another device, not the HTC Amaze. But it probably also works for you guys.
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i've tried mms only, but still nada. it's ok though, i like go sms app anyway
Actually I send MMS and the message leaves but the person who receives the MMS gets an empty MMS message.
After much playing around with the device, I discovered that inserting a picture using gallery or the explorer that comes with the Amaze are all fail.
The only way I'm able to successfully send messages is inserting the image using ROOT Explorer. When I send MMS the person no longer gets empty MMS messages.
Now I'm using the CapcomCE ROM and it happened on SpeedROM 7.5
I downloaded the Gallery ICS from market and its the same story.
So basically if I insert pictures to send through MMS I have to use the Root Explorer or else the MMS messages are sent empty.
Has anyone had a similar experience?
vmartinez39 said:
Actually I send MMS and the message leaves but the person who receives the MMS gets an empty MMS message.
After much playing around with the device, I discovered that inserting a picture using gallery or the explorer that comes with the Amaze are all fail.
The only way I'm able to successfully send messages is inserting the image using ROOT Explorer. When I send MMS the person no longer gets empty MMS messages.
Now I'm using the CapcomCE ROM and it happened on SpeedROM 7.5
I downloaded the Gallery ICS from market and its the same story.
So basically if I insert pictures to send through MMS I have to use the Root Explorer or else the MMS messages are sent empty.
Has anyone had a similar experience?
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Try reducing the mms size.

Wifi Calling - Can't send MMS

Anyone else having this issue? I can send MMS just fine when i get a data signal. Also calls and SMS are working great over wifi calling....just cant seem to send a MMS.
I use Handcent and have no problem.
Have this issue too
I have this issue as well, when WiFi Calling is activated I cannot send or receive MMS messages.
I'm still completely stock.
Praetorian011 said:
I have this issue as well, when WiFi Calling is activated I cannot send or receive MMS messages.
I'm still completely stock.
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I think is the way the tmobile sets it up to turn of the wireless radio but wifi, I seem that on my one s, but if you use another app im like Handcent it uses it wifi so you dont have the problems, again thats my experience on one s, Im waiting for my galaxy s 3 still
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Tried handcent with no luck. Still can't send or receive MMS.
I have an s3 and also have this issue - anyone find a solution?
Google a little bit. Sounds like this is a known issue for T-Mobile on many different devices. :-(
Jaxidian said:
Google a little bit. Sounds like this is a known issue for T-Mobile on many different devices. :-(
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Really? I never had the problem while texting
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
Unfortunately this is an issue, but I don't know if the blame can be placed on TMobile, as the stock messaging app will allow me to send an MMS over WIFI. The reason being is that MMS is sent using the carrier's data connection. With the stock app, while using wifi, it disconnects from the wifi connection just long enough to send the MMS. However, when using a third party, it does not register and therefor isn't sent until you disconnect from the wifi or resend through the stock app.
Works for me bro. But then again, my data is always on...
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This is a pretty crap issue.
I have no damn signal in my house (even though I really should), so Wifi Calling is a godsend (even though it likes to randomly turn off).
But I've got five MMS pending download because of a group text, and I can't reply. I would have to go up the street to get them.
I'm on Verizon and have the same problem. Only solution to sending and receiving is to clear data, but have to do that every time i send or receive an MMS on stock. tried Go SMS and Handcent, and get the same issues.
goldsmitht said:
I'm on Verizon and have the same problem. Only solution to sending and receiving is to clear data, but have to do that every time i send or receive an MMS on stock. tried Go SMS and Handcent, and get the same issues.
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This worked for me at work and at home. Just need to do this for every wifi access point you use. I found this on Rootzwiki.
Long press on your Wifi connection
Press "Modify Network"
Scroll down to IP Settings and change that from "DHCP" to "Static"
Scroll down to DNS and enter the following information:
DNS 1 - 8.8.4.4
DNS 2 - 8.8.8.8
Press Save
REBOOT YOUR PHONE! This is important.
I would love to be able to send SMS through my WiFi because I get crap signal in my room.... is there a WiFi calling app for att?
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CM13 6.0.1 - Force Connect MMS

Hi,
I can't automatically receive MMS on standart sms app, anyone experiencing this ?
MMS Just keeps sending/downloading
(i have to turn data on to receive MMS)
I've done some searching and I can't seem to find the issue with MMS data?
My APNs are correct and I have the Messaging app set to Auto-enable data yes nothing happens at all.
Any pxt I send just says "SENDING..." and any I receive just says "Downloading".
Is there an option somewhere in the settings that I am missing?
In earlier versions of Cyanogenmod there was an option to "Enable Packet Data" in the Wireless/Network settings, but it doesn't seem to be present in CM13.
In stock rom 4.1.2, there was this option in feature.xml (System \ csc)
<CscFeature_RIL_ForceConnectMMS>true</CscFeature_RIL_ForceConnectMMS>
Thanks for any help and keep up the awesome work.
Hi, thanks for using the q&a.
Firstly, I used to have the same problem with MMS on lollipop roms. It did work for me on earlier MM roms, but the problem came back a while ago. I just use a 3rd party sms app now. Two that I have used and work well are chomp and textra. They do have ads though which are a little annoying. MMS works perfectly on these(chomp definately, I'm using now; textra I haven't used for a few months but did work perfectly then)
I don't really have a fix for the stock SMS app. As I said it did work properly for a while(for me) on MM with auto enable data.
EDIT: From memory it was dependant on the carrier as well, some people it worked and some like me(and some others on the same carrier) it didn't work....
noppy22 said:
Hi, thanks for using the q&a.
Firstly, I used to have the same problem with MMS on lollipop roms. It did work for me on earlier MM roms, but the problem came back a while ago. I just use a 3rd party sms app now. Two that I have used and work well are chomp and textra. They do have ads though which are a little annoying. MMS works perfectly on these(chomp definately, I'm using now; textra I haven't used for a few months but did work perfectly then)
I don't really have a fix for the stock SMS app. As I said it did work properly for a while(for me) on MM with auto enable data.
EDIT: From memory it was dependant on the carrier as well, some people it worked and some like me(and some others on the same carrier) it didn't work....
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Chomp:
"Failed to download MMS
Turn on Mobile Data (tap to retry)"
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Chomp:
"Failed to download MMS
Turn on Mobile Data (tap to retry)"
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OK, it works for me....
If you want to keep trying with chomp,try going into the app settings(3 dot menu) then messaging -> mms and switch "mms behaviour". Also see if your carrier send limit is not exceeded.
The other thing I would make sure is your apn settings for mms is correct. Sometimes I have found I need to configure apn manually...
Has anyone tested MmsRequest - reimplement automatic data sub switch -> CyanogenMod / android_packages_services_Mms by Ricardo Cerqueira?
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/140982

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