Will Dell respond with a newer, better, Streak, now that they see there is a market for these hybrid phone/tablets? Should I just jump on the Note when it finally becomes available or wait to see what Dell will do? I'm due for an upgrade in March so I guess I'll wait until then...
Yeah you can wait till March but there is very less possibility that Dell may come out with something comparable to Note in near future.
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It would be sad to see Dell following Samsung...
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I'd very much like to see dell release another phoneblet with top of the line specs, sadly I'm highly skeptical about it.
Given how Android didn't sell itself according to the lack of marketing Dell provided, I wouldn't expect to see another Streak unless it ran Windows Phone 7. The irony here is that Windows Phone 7 has the smallest market share of any mobile OS.
Who knows what dell is going to do, the only 'new' device is the Streak pro and it's still not really available in china yet and not out in japan.
The S5 launched outside europe half a year later, it's not impossible they'll launch the SPro elsewhere eventually, besides that they canceled more WP7 phones then they did android phones. But it's a mid-upper end 4.3" and not a 5.x" device.
Currently there's no known devices on their roadmap, besides the weak promise of new tabs or something during CES. A new roadmap for 2012 hasnt leaked/been made available yet, everything on the 2011 one is either out or canceled.
2011 road map to date:
2 canceled WP7 devices
1 canceled android phone,
2 canceled android tabs (the 'opus one' is in the tab category)
1 Pending update to the s10 (ICS and 'handwriting support'(?) )
It wont really matter how good a device dell puts out, if they dont change their advertising strat. The software on their devices have improved dramatically post-S5, but it means jack if they half-ass their launches.
If they have any plans at all, they're doing a pretty good job keeping us in the dark.
If DELL is serious making an impact in the market, they should ask Samsung or HTC to make a phone for them. At least, we would have a quality device and not a crap one like the Streak.
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If DELL is serious making an impact in the market, they should ask Samsung or HTC to make a phone for them. At least, we would have a quality device and not a crap one like the Streak.
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I'll be totally honest with you, I prefer the quality and finish on my streak far more than most of the samsung line they feel too plasticy and flimsy IMHO, plus back when s5 was announced it was pretty much top of the line sans for 1.6. I think dell should just get it together with making the drivers open source thus sparking more interest and a bigger development community for the device, and of course spend way more on marketing than with the s5.
It's not at all about who makes it, it's about the fact noone knows they exist.
I cant speak of every other market, but in the US only the s5 had any advertising. Of which it was 1 month or so of commercials. The S7 and V didnt get any at all, not surprisingly the S5 outsold the S7, V, VPro combined (no data to back this up, just by pure post count on xda)
The fact the Note doesnt even need this has a lot to do with it's specs, it's about the most powerful device it's size currently, the S5 was nearly the last major S1 snapdragon released. Samsung's been doing pretty well with the galaxy family, it's momentum is the equivilent of a year or so of good advertising if it were the S5.
The S5 wasnt supported by any carrier in the US, only sold quietly by best buy. The GN is going to be available with at&t and verizon(?), though internally those varients are pretty much entirely different devices.
If it wasnt for the software, I really could see myself using the S5 till early 2013 (which is like 800 years in phone years) That's the biggest difference between samsung and dell, samsung is a lot more dev friendly.
EVEN if dell launched the 'opus one' yesterday it wouldnt compete with the note, they're in seperate price brackets. It would be like comparing the kindle fire with the S7, even though the S7 is older it's still faster. If you went by MSRP you could buy 2 S7's or 3 KFs for the same amount of money. Just like not all 4.0"/etc phones are equal.
The Streak is a fine device, and has kept me happy probably longer than any other phone. Will probably look into the Note when released on AT&T, but just for the hardware and later software upgrade. The streak still does everything I actually need.
It's the first phone that I could actually keep through a 2 year contact, if I wasn't such a nerd...
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It's not at all about who makes it, it's about the fact noone knows they exist.
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i got a spam phone call yesterday with a company trying to sell me phone insurance
the woman asked me what phone i had?
so i said dell streak
she said
no what phone do you have?
i said a dell streak
she said
no what phone do you have? is it a blackberry or an iphone?
i said no its a DELL STREAK
she tutted & put the phone down on me
poor woman didnt know what to do as i dont think the dell streaks insurable
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i got a spam phone call yesterday with a company trying to sell me phone insurance
the woman asked me what phone i had?
so i said dell streak
she said
no what phone do you have?
i said a dell streak
she said
no what phone do you have? is it a blackberry or an iphone?
i said no its a DELL STREAK
she tutted & put the phone down on me
poor woman didnt know what to do as i dont think the dell streaks insurable
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ROLF ...
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I concur with the positive views of the S5 voiced here. My S5 got water damaged over the weekend and is irretrievably bricked. Of the 20 or so mobile devices I have owned over the last decade this was the one I have had the longest and would have quite happily continued with it ad infinitum.
My dissapointment is compounded as the search for another 5 inch device only reveals The Note.
Dell seem to be steering away from the 'phablet' arena, not surprisingly given it's specialist nature and lack of worldwide sales. As this thread began, one can only hope that significant sales of the Note don't go unnoticed by Dell.
With the Note as yet largely unavalable with UK carriers, I am as deviceless, miserable and lost as I have been at any time in the last decade.
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My new Streak 5 just arrived. I had to part with £170 for it (cheaper in the long run than an insurance claim on my water damaged one) but it's pristine. I never want to be without one again.
Well, I will miss my Streak when the ebay auction ends, but I must say I'm enjoying my Note's 4g speed for internet browsing. It also seems a bit faster when switching between apps and such. I did like the fact that the Streak had a metal chassis, and that gave it a more solid feel than the Note has, but the Note's lightness is also nice. I won't miss the Streak's connection port, and find the micro-usb port on the Note far more convenient to use.
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Barry (NJ) said:
Well, I will miss my Streak when the ebay auction ends, but I must say I'm enjoying my Note's 4g speed for internet browsing. It also seems a bit faster when switching between apps and such. I did like the fact that the Streak had a metal chassis, and that gave it a more solid feel than the Note has, but the Note's lightness is also nice. I won't miss the Streak's connection port, and find the micro-usb port on the Note far more convenient to use.
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I don't think the streak ever had a metal chasis, only the battery cover is metal.
The chassis might be aniondized plastic or something, the inner surface is plastic I believe but the outer side is much more durable then simple plastic. Regardless, that fact is why I like the S5 as it is and feels rather scratch resistant.
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I don't think the streak ever had a metal chasis, only the battery cover is metal.
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You could be right, but it always felt so solid I assumed it was metal
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Motorola just launched the Dinara this morning, but because it was shrouded as a China-only handset, no one really noticed. Well the dual-core, 720p, 13-megapixel XT928 is indeed coming to the US, we've learned, as the MB886 (and internationally as the XT885/XT920); like the MB860 Atrix and MB865 Atrix 2, Dinara is expected to land on AT&T, although possibly not as an exclusive.
This is the second time in recent memory that the company has quietly revealed the international version of a handset before launching the American variant: we saw the Droid 3 spoiled by the Milestone 3 only a few months back. However, with the RAZR having only recently begun shipping -- itself upstaging the Bionic -- it seems unlikely that Dinara will be announced in the US until at least CES.
Full specs on China's Dinara can be found in the press release, linked below. Although the XT928 is a 3G device, expect Dinara to be loaded with LTE radios by the time it arrives stateside (regardless of carrier).
looks like were outdated very soon.
4.5" 720p screen
13mp camera
Dolby Digital Sound
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I'm Disappointed. Completely.
kholk said:
I'm Disappointed. Completely.
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Yeah..a fatter and larger RAZR? Kind of redundant..and not appetizing.
robstunner said:
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/motorola-dinara-revealed-tipped-for-att
looks like were outdated very soon.
4.5" 720p screen
13mp camera
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Thanks. But I don't see anything really eye catching. meh
Feels like I just got butthurt
I'm disappointed only because they could have put the 13MP camera in the RAZR, it isn't bigger. The RAZR would have costed like 80€ more than now, but well, it could have been a real highend superior device.
And it isn't a chipset limitation: OMAP4430 supports it FULLY.
I'm bored of this. As soon as replacements for Dinara will be out, I'll buy its replacement 13MP camera, mount it in the RAZR and port its driver, other than write a guide on how to mount that $%£$%£ camera in it.
And obviously I hope its pinout will be compatible/adaptable on our RAZR.
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I'm disappointed only because they could have put the 13MP camera in the RAZR, it isn't bigger. The RAZR would have costed like 80€ more than now, but well, it could have been a real highend superior device.
And it isn't a chipset limitation: OMAP4430 supports it FULLY.
I'm bored of this. As soon as replacements for Dinara will be out, I'll buy its replacement 13MP camera, mount it in the RAZR and port its driver, other than write a guide on how to mount that $%£$%£ camera in it.
And obviously I hope its pinout will be compatible/adaptable on our RAZR.
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I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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This.
If the Dinara is, like is rumored, an LCD screen and a sub-par camera (if the sensor sucks, 13MP might actually be a downgrade since it will make for noisy shots), I would consider it a downgrade from the RAZR. Also, Verizon > AT&T (in my area, and most others; YMMV).
Nothing to see, here. The RAZR will be outclassed soon enough, but not by this.
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I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
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So? Just because a new Nexus comes only once a year doesn't mean that they're not outdated quickly. The Nexus S came out right before the emergence of dual-core headsets and was literally outdated within weeks and even the Galaxy Nexus will be replaced soon enough; quad-core devices are literally only months away at this point.
Options are the beauty of this platform.
Want incremental, yearly updates? Go get an iPhone, simple as that.
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So? Just because a new Nexus comes only once a year doesn't mean that they're not outdated quickly. The Nexus S came out right before the emergence of dual-core headsets and was literally outdated within weeks and even the Galaxy Nexus will be replaced soon enough; quad-core devices are literally only months away at this point.
Options are the beauty of this platform.
Want incremental, yearly updates? Go get an iPhone, simple as that.
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Yea, that will never happen again (iPhone). I enjoy my razr, and if that post above LCD screen in the dinara is correct, I also say FAIL. I couldn't find any information on the specifics on the Motorola press release.
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I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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zn5 dosn't have kodak sensor
only kodak there is function for image enhancement, nothing more...
but, I surely would love sensor from XT720 + xenon flash on some new moto phone
(xt720 has a much better image quality than zn5)
Where's the Kevlar, if it ain't stoppin bullets I don't want it.
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zn5 dosn't have kodak sensor
only kodak there is function for image enhancement, nothing more...
but, I surely would love sensor from XT720 + xenon flash on some new moto phone
(xt720 has a much better image quality than zn5)
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That's your opinion. I've used both phones and Zn5 is hands down winner against the XT720 when it comes to image quality. XT720 was also good but it wasn't near nowhere to zn5 !
Honestly, that looks like a RAZR had sex with a Droid X. I appreciate the camera and the screen, but their design is moving backwards now..
And Moto is trying desperately to stay on top, just like everyone else. Android is a quickly-evolving platform, there's always something new around the corner to jam into a device. And when potential buyers are looking for a phone, they always want the newest technology. While it might seem like a bad decision to keep throwing phones out every other week that make yours look like crap, in order to hold their own, they kindof have to. That's why you don't see them cranking out seven tablets every week, tablets are more like "okay well as long as we have the newest processor and a decent GPU we're pretty well off let's check back in 4 months"
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That's your opinion. I've used both phones and Zn5 is hands down winner against the XT720 when it comes to image quality. XT720 was also good but it wasn't near nowhere to zn5 !
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I have both phones, and XT has so much better color reproduction, sharpness and noise reduction
maybe I have some old firmware on ZN5, but that's for some another thread..
ICS might actually improve the picture quality. There may be mods as well that make things better. You gotta think what's more important, the phone as a whole or the camera.
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I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
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Mmm HTC hasn't been TOO bad about pushing out devices, and even then the specs are either equal, lesser, or slightly better. Moto just seems to be pushing devices out left and right. It is pretty disappointing to drop $300 + on a device and then a few weeks later you see something with higher specs come out. The HD screen vs qHD does make a fairly decent difference from what I've noticed so far. Tbh the upcoming Nexus phone isn't anything revolutionary or spectacular except for ICS. Android phones are just coming out too fast and hopefully it slows down a bit.
damn, i can't wait for this phone! looks like a mean upgrade from my current one.
http://gadgetsteria.com/2011/12/01/flog-that-horse-motorola-droid-razr-max-revealed-in-exif-data/
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Roughly 6 months ago, I upgraded from a Backflip (my first Android phone!) to the Infuse. I immediately fell in love with Samsung's beautiful screen technology (which prompted the purchase of a Samsung laptop later on), and that was a great experience. I even hard-bricked an Infuse once and had to replace it. Good times.
A couple weeks ago, I purchased the SKYROCKET for $149 on AT&T Premier, by upgrading a second line of mine. It's everything the Infuse was, and more (better camera/video, faster in every way, etc.), EXCEPT: I discovered the problem with the screen calibration. For details, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337194 (want even more details on the issue? see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942)
Needless to say, I wasn't going to put up with the crappy screen problems, especially since I was still within 30 days. After a 3-way call with Premier and a "local" AT&T corporate store, I was able to swap the skyrocket out for a new OGSGSII, only paying the $50 difference and no restock fee. Within 2 hours, I had it rooted, ROM'd, and all of my ~70 apps back on it using TiBu.
I'll admit that the screen on the OGSGSII is not quite as nice as the Infuse. The screen doesn't get 100% pure "black" like the Infuse did, but it is still FAR superior to the Skyrocket.
Lastly, when I came to the Dev forums for OGSGSII, I found a very pleasant surprise: gtg465x and Entropy512 were here! These two were some of my favorite devs from the Infuse, and I'm rather ecstatic that they decided to make the jump from Infuse to this SGSII.
TL;DR: If you are still trying to decide between the Skyrocket (I-727) and the original SGS2 (I-777), DO NOT BUY THE SKYROCKET.
I spent a week with the skyrocket before getting my SII. My reasons:
Physical size: While the SR is only very slightly larger than the S2 (and on paper, the difference is measured in millimeters), I found the S2 easier to hold and manipulate.
Battery: The closest LTE area to me is about 5 hours away, but even in my non-LTE area, the battery life on the S2 seems to be considerably better than the SR. In theory, the SR should have a better battery life in my situation, but that wasn't how it worked out for me.
CIQ: Not even my wife is watching over my shoulder when I'm playing with my phone, and I have a serious problem with my phone sending that level of detail of my usage to AT&T. Not to mention that I wouldn't be surprised if someone discovered that the CIQ data being sent to AT&T is being charged as consumer used data (and therefore going against my monthly 4GB allotment.) SR has CIQ. S2 doesn't.
Development Support: Read the DEV subforum for the SR and compare it to the S2. Simple enough...
ICS: Samsung and AT&T projected timeline for releasing ICS on the SR: Eventually. Maybe. Once AT&T finds someone to port all their bloatware and CIQ to ICS. Should definately be available before the year 2016. Projected timeline for ICS on the AT&T version of the S2? None. However, I bet the S2 has it long before the SR does (simply because of the developer support mentioned above.)
Enjoy your phone,
Gary
garyd9 said:
I spent a week with the skyrocket before getting my SII. My reasons:
Physical size: While the SR is only very slightly larger than the S2 (and on paper, the difference is measured in millimeters), I found the S2 easier to hold and manipulate.
Battery: The closest LTE area to me is about 5 hours away, but even in my non-LTE area, the battery life on the S2 seems to be considerably better than the SR. In theory, the SR should have a better battery life in my situation, but that wasn't how it worked out for me.
CIQ: Not even my wife is watching over my shoulder when I'm playing with my phone, and I have a serious problem with my phone sending that level of detail of my usage to AT&T. Not to mention that I wouldn't be surprised if someone discovered that the CIQ data being sent to AT&T is being charged as consumer used data (and therefore going against my monthly 4GB allotment.) SR has CIQ. S2 doesn't.
Development Support: Read the DEV subforum for the SR and compare it to the S2. Simple enough...
ICS: Samsung and AT&T projected timeline for releasing ICS on the SR: Eventually. Maybe. Once AT&T finds someone to port all their bloatware and CIQ to ICS. Should definately be available before the year 2016. Projected timeline for ICS on the AT&T version of the S2? None. However, I bet the S2 has it long before the SR does (simply because of the developer support mentioned above.)
Enjoy your phone,
Gary
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I completely agree with all of your statements. Well said!
I'm glad I stuck with my OGGSII. I don't think I would enjoy it as much without custom ROMS.
Oh, and that CIQ thingy isn't my taste. I use MIUI myself, which I don't believe has any tracking software. I'm getting a bit tired of it but touchwiz roms just aren't as good as MIUI overall.
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SGS2 by far...
I sold my Infuse to get an SGS2 and I have to be honest, I initially missed the big screen on the Infuse.
Still the Super Amoled Plus display on the SGS2 is great and colors are vivid if you use custom ROMs that allow to change between Dynamic, Standard and Movie.
Another strong difference between SGS2 and Skyrocket is the actual chipset, The Exynos is way better in performance than the Snapdragon, even it is 1.2 vs 1.5 Ghz
I live in Costa Rica and there is no such a thing as 4G or LTE yet, therefore it has no impact for me.
I simply love the SGS2 and as a proof you can visit this XDA site:
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/poll-vote-for-the-best-phone-of-2011/
Enough said
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I also strongly agree.
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Who cares that the original S2 can't display pure black? It's better than the Skyrocket, where black is the only color it can display properly. I can't believe you had to make a three-way call just to get an exchange (for a higher-priced phone too). Do these idiots at AT&T and Samsung realize their phone is defective? I can't believe they've been allowed to play dumb and feign ignorance for so long.
What kinda hands do you Infuse lovers have?? That was the MOST awkward and dev-crippled ATT retard I've ever owned, ever. As far as SR, its ATT crippled handset because an almost-clean S2 didn't tickle their crippling fancy, so that alone is enough to steer me clear of it.
So S2 only and only because its the 1st GOOD/uncrippled phone ATT released in the past 3 years...
Exchanging my SR for the OGSII on Monday, cant wait! What do you guys mean it doesnt display blacks? I thought all SAMOLEDS were the best at reproducing black?
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Exchanging my SR for the OGSII on Monday, cant wait! What do you guys mean it doesnt display blacks? I thought all SAMOLEDS were the best at reproducing black?
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The idiots are complaining about the line issue, which ONLY occurs in gray, not black.
All of those reasons are actually valid, unlike a lot of posts I see.
Lot of hate on this forum... probably because all of the Infuse owners came here... Well, no ragers for me!
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I am glad I got the s2.. I was a little disappointed that right after i bought the s2 the sky rocket was out cos I wanted the bigger screen. But after plying with it a lot I think the s2 performs way better. Both are great devices though.
Granted, the writer is using an unlocked version of the Galaxy Nexus, so there aren't the network issues we've all come to know & hate, he basically says the phone itself is lacking, and ICS is GREAT! Can't wait til our "premium" phone gets it!
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=...as-pulse+%28Android+Atlas+-+CNET+for+Pulse%29
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The only real low points on the hardware was the camera, and the build quality. The camera on the RAZR is nothing to write home about.. and I've never had an issue with Samsung build quality before...it's just uses a lot of plastic.
To me the more plastic, the less quality. It's a direct relationship as far as quality 'feel' goes.
My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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gogreenbay07 said:
My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
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I would never say one camera is better than another based off megapixels...it's a meaningless bullet point spec. That said...it looks like it may simply not be that great of a camera based off the OTHER more important specs. Looks like it's the same module as seen in the Galaxy/Nexus S...which was "okay" but not nearly on the same level as the SGS II, or the newer iphones.
I would like some help,
Is the phone heat going up to 120F/49C some thing this phone can take or Is that bad.
P.S My S2 never has gone to more than 113F.
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All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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Actual space is 27.3g free, of which apps and data share this same space. As far as tunes in the cloud, MUCH better on battery life to play local on device. Not to mention if in area with weak or no coverage.
as far as camera is concerned on our devices, the sensor is fine, the problem I think has to do with the software and compression.
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I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
Actually I once thought that I'll get a Galaxy Nexus, but as soon as I knew that there's no 32GB version available here, I just go for the razr...
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I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
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Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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Where did you hear that?
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It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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I call bull.
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Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
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Kinda feel the same way, as long as the galaxy nexus comes out before Xmas day as that's my last returnable day.
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I'm feeling the same way. I love the feel of the phone but there are teo major faults that have me thinking I should return it.
The battery is dire. It's nearly out of charge and it is only six hours since it was at 100%.
The wifi reception is beyond bad. I can see six or seven networks with my three year old HTC Hero whereas I only just manage to connect to my own network.
It's a simply beautiful phone but I need it to last a full day and be able to switch to different networks as I move around.
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I do agree, wi-fi is a little bit weaker on this one as on my desire before, but could connect to all my networks. Real test will happen on monday for wi-fi at the airport, as this was weak on desire also.
Regarding battery life, I really cannot complain, played with the phone on wi-fi for hours ( browsing). From my point of view the battery life is ok.
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I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
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For those of us who want a solidly built, robust and quality device the RAZR stomps all over the Nexus from the inside out. I agree that the specs of the Nexus come out ahead and yes it certainly is the more "playful" device for us but that doesn't really matter when it's built like a Samsung. No offence to Samsung but this Moto feels like quality and is quality and sometimes having a stronger foundation is more beneficial in the long run.
Who else goes through the trouble of EMI protection like Moto.
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Dude, research before you said that more EMI shields is a better thing. The reason they need that many is because they had to put every chip on the same side of the PCB. With chips on different side they can use the PCB ground plane as EMI shield so you would see less.
I thought it would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts since the Z Ultra is more of a niche device.
For me, it's mainly because of the screen size as I wanted something more of a small tablet. I was deciding between this and Nexus 7 FHD LTE but ultimately went with the Z Ultra. Expandable memory was a huge factor in this. Plus I want to try out Sony again. I like them.
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I thought it would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts since the Z Ultra is more of a niche device.
For me, it's mainly because of the screen size as I wanted something more of a small tablet. I was deciding between this and Nexus 7 FHD LTE but ultimately went with the Z Ultra. Expandable memory was a huge factor in this. Plus I want to try out Sony again. I like them.
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Had a Nexus 7 2012 and a htc sensation, my sensation died and started to feel annoying by always have to carrying both phone and tab. Started to look for a phablet and found the XZU, meanwhile I saw the specs of the new n7 and got really disappointed. The XZU is the ultimate phablet, no real competitors yet (galaxy mega is too far behind). Sony really worked on the build quality, and this is a real plus, plastic devices can't be call a high-end devices.
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Well, I wanted to get the biggest device out there because my fingers are quite fat. I'm not saying that I'm fat but my hands are ..well ..kind of wide and thick. 4,7 inches is just to small for my hands.
I am forever a crackberry user after having the 9900 before my One X and the Bold series is hands down the best devices for typing on. But they are small, and BB phones are..just very boring.
Why I chose SONY and to continue with android is because the user friendly unlocking process of the bootloader just like HTC without using some exploit or bug. And I got a bit too comfortable with the idiot safe and too stable HTC devices and roms. I had the Desire PVT4, One X endeavour and now my dad got the silver HTC One which I'm in charge of flashing new roms and updates on so naah, I wanted to try something new and exciting with premium built quality! :fingers-crossed:
Hello, I will order my XZU in a few days. I already got a 6,44" Smartphone and im happy with its size, its perfectly fits in my jeans pocket and in my hands so i wouldn't have any problems with the size of the XZU. It is waterproof, looks pretty good and it have the snap800 thats why i decided to order it.
The camera isn't a problem in my eyes, when i want to take high quality pictures then i dont use a smartphone.
I had the Galaxy Note, and it was time to move on, so i was looking for something with a big screen. I first wanted the Xperia Z, since i really like Sony's Omni Balance design, but the screen just ruined the whole thing for me, so i checked the HTC One out, but the screen is too small. I had no idea after that, so i waited and suddenly Sony announced the Ultra, and i checked out their ad, and i started laughing since it's so huge. I dismissed it on the spot and continued with my day. A couple of days later i though about it again and i checked some more videos of it, and i suddenly said to myself, "i must have it". And that pretty much it.
Why didn't i go with the Note 3? I've had a Note for almost two years, and i wanted to leave Samsung. They are stuck IMO, and the only thing they keep pushing out now are big or small versions of an existing product, and they are still shoving crap into TouchWiz. No thanks.
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I had the Galaxy Note, and it was time to move on, so i was looking for something with a big screen. I first wanted the Xperia Z, since i really like Sony's Omni Balance design, but the screen just ruined the whole thing for me, so i checked the HTC One out, but the screen is too small. I had no idea after that, so i waited and suddenly Sony announced the Ultra, and i checked out their ad, and i started laughing since it's so huge. I dismissed it on the spot and continued with my day. A couple of days later i though about it again and i checked some more videos of it, and i suddenly said to myself, "i must have it". And that pretty much it.
Why didn't i go with the Note 3? I've had a Note for almost two years, and i wanted to leave Samsung. They are stuck IMO, and the only thing they keep pushing out now are big or small versions of an existing product, and they are still shoving crap into TouchWiz. No thanks.
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Not to mention ATT looks like they locked the bootloader on Note 3. Not sure if Tmo did the same, but it looks like they share the ATT LTE bands. I still felt that the C6806 with LTE on ATT and larger screen is better than any other device.
I come from the Note 2 and have been maintaining TWRP on the Note1 ATT and all Note 2 devices. I want to see if I can use motochopper on the C6806 since I don't trust vroot as much.
I just really wanted a small fast tablet with FHD, went round them all and finally the XZU emerged; some only dual core, some low res, some no expandable storage. Albeit the XZU is designed to be primarily a phone first, as a tablet it also excels at getting the job done. I travel internationally for work purpose, often to destinations way off the grid such as Borneo, so space is always an absolute premium.
Of course the display, I have never owned a mobile device that literally people comment on the quality of the image reproduction, especially films. Maybe I lucked out, equally I have not seen better on a mobile.
My only concern is 16Gb, bigger aps, ever larger data 32Gb should be the default on premium products. As the Galaxy Note 3 now comes with 32Gb as default it`s simply a matter of time before others follow suit, my only concern is the XZU is such a niche product it may not sustain...
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It's a Sony
i sold my Galaxy Mega, and my ZU arrives tomorrow... i got bored with Samsungs design a while ago and decided to go with Sony, the design looks really good and solid, cant wait to unbox it!
This unit is like a piece of fine art with TWO world records, Biggest smartphone and Smallest tablet. you got the Best of both world !!!
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Definitely a head turner
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I doubted first but now saw I wanted it.the screen the style, the waterresistant. And fellow xdaers have convinced me, Spidey and Lord M
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Screen and the slim body
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Just got mine this morning and OMG! I wanted to get away from Samsungs design and am so happy I did.. This makes my old mega feel like a toy... This is the best phone speed and design wise I've ever had
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Just got mine this morning and OMG! I wanted to get away from Samsungs design and am so happy I did.. This makes my old mega feel like a toy... This is the best phone speed and design wise I've ever had
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Right! My Note feels like something from Toys R Us now. When you buy an Ultra, you'll get what you pay for; quality build. When you buy a Samsung, you get a plastic duck with a lot of gestures.
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Right! My Note feels like something from Toys R Us now. When you buy an Ultra, you'll get what you pay for; quality build. When you buy a Samsung, you get a plastic duck with a lot of gestures.
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Hahaha!
(Sams always good with hardware specs though )
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(Sams always good with hardware specs though )
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Yes, they're really good at hardware specs, but not the hardware itself and the software. Plastic and TouchWiz doesn't scream "i paid top dollar for this". When i buy a Porsche i expect the best interior, exterior and performance. Samsung is good at performace. They are the Corvette of the mobile world, awesome performance but ****ty build quality (Corvettes are 101% plastic). Sony is the Aston Martin. Stylish, really fast (and expensive).
Not saying that Sony is perfect, because they're not, but they're the closest i'll get to high performace, openess and build quality in one device.
What model are going to trade for with your recall replacement and what is compatible in your opinion?
I am not thrilled about the glass with this phone (small crack near volume rocker)and many reports in the wild about scratches this early into release. The touch, especially the buttons feel a little less responsive than my not 5 and i swear my internet lags, especially when loading pages (but not positive on that one).
I am not one to complain about performance when each new model is first released. I have been in the game for years and years and think these few complaints with the note 7 may have leaning to pick another phone for my recall replacemt. I do like the note 7 though so tough decision.
Too bad more new phones were released in this unfortunate time
A recall for about 1 out of half a million batteries? That's still better odds than a few grains of peanut in your ice cream (which can kill some people). A new Note 7. With the odds being 1 out of half a million, the odds that the second one is also defective is probably too great to calculate on a 64 bit computer.
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If rumors are correct, the Nexus Google Sailfish and Marlin phones are supposed to be released this month. The Marlin apparently has a 5.5" QHD AMOLED screen. Other rumored specs seem similar to the Note 7.
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A recall for about 1 out of half a million batteries? That's still better odds than a few grains of peanut in your ice cream (which can kill some people). A new Note 7. With the odds being 1 out of half a million, the odds that the second one is also defective is probably too great to calculate on a 64 bit computer.
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So your logic is better than the brains in Samsung?
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lmao you wanna go with LG? the company that consistently have quality control issues about GPS not working and overheating issues? Even though they got thousands of cases and refuse to do anything about it? Compared to Samsung where 35 devices have exploded or caught on fire and suspects about a possible 400k affected devices and they doing a full blown 2.5mill recall? ha you're funny and so is loyalty.
I'm a note 7 user and i haven't owned a Samsung device since 2010 which was my first smartphone and one of my best phones ever and since then i've moved onto Oneplus, Nexus etc so i'm not even remotely close to a Sammy fanboy but i'll tell ya what, i've only owned one LG device since back in 2012/2013 i think and it had such crappy GPS performance, literally every single device "Optimsu F7" and LG blew it over like it was nothing and said its not a problem. Now its happening to their LG G5 plus overheating issues. The day that LG told me and thousands of other customers who paid for the F7 that the GPS is functional and nothing is wrong is the day i vowed to never buy another LG device. loyalty is a funny thing and right now Samsung has my objective loyalty of how they're handling this situation.
They only did it because they didn't want to get sued. The voluntary recall was the loop hole for them.
I'll keep my note 7 until they have replacement note 7 in. Mine doesnt get hot from charging or using it. I'll watch it but i agree 35 cases out of how many phones? That's pretty good odds and nothing's flawless.
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My wife and I like our note 7's so much we refuse to trade them for anything except the same device.. So we'll wait until they can do that.
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lmao you wanna go with LG? the company that consistently have quality control issues about GPS not working and overheating issues? Even though they got thousands of cases and refuse to do anything about it? Compared to Samsung where 35 devices have exploded or caught on fire and suspects about a possible 400k affected devices and they doing a full blown 2.5mill recall? ha you're funny and so is loyalty.
I'm a note 7 user and i haven't owned a Samsung device since 2010 which was my first smartphone and one of my best phones ever and since then i've moved onto Oneplus, Nexus etc so i'm not even remotely close to a Sammy fanboy but i'll tell ya what, i've only owned one LG device since back in 2012/2013 i think and it had such crappy GPS performance, literally every single device "Optimsu F7" and LG blew it over like it was nothing and said its not a problem. Now its happening to their LG G5 plus overheating issues. The day that LG told me and thousands of other customers who paid for the F7 that the GPS is functional and nothing is wrong is the day i vowed to never buy another LG device. loyalty is a funny thing and right now Samsung has my objective loyalty of how they're handling this situation.
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Actually I have owned the g3, g4 and v10. They all perforned well, were snappy and i didn't have any of those issues (I thought the g3 was lovely). But I always returned to Samsung because the screens were better for me.
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Went back to my note 4.
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I'll keep my note 7 until they have replacement note 7 in. Mine doesnt get hot from charging or using it. I'll watch it but i agree 35 cases out of how many phones? That's pretty good odds and nothing's flawless.
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Thats what i thonk. Ill keep mine until i can walk i the store and recwive the replacement.
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Thats what i thonk. Ill keep mine until i can walk i the store and recwive the replacement.
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I dpnt trust any carrier that says they will let you use a loaner phone until the corrected version is released. So easy for them to say well thats your phone. You traded your note 7 for that Phone. So enjoy it.
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I dpnt trust any carrier that says they will let you use a loaner phone until the corrected version is released. So easy for them to say well thats your phone. You traded your note 7 for that Phone. So enjoy it.
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Yes. If i do tun into trouble i will use my old one.
I was excited about the lg v20...until it was announced.
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So no iPhone 7 takers??
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What model are going to trade for with your recall replacement and what is compatible in your opinion?
I am not thrilled about the glass with this phone (small crack near volume rocker)and many reports in the wild about scratches this early into release. The touch, especially the buttons feel a little less responsive than my not 5 and i swear my internet lags, especially when loading pages (but not positive on that one).
I am not one to complain about performance when each new model is first released. I have been in the game for years and years and think these few complaints with the note 7 may have leaning to pick another phone for my recall replacemt. I do like the note 7 though so tough decision.
Too bad more new phones were released in this unfortunate time
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I'm straight swapping my existing (non defective) Note 7 for the NIB unit Samsung is going to hand over; whenever they may arrive that is.
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As a long time (since the 2) Note series user, I may be a little biased when I say -
There is no good reason to move away from this generation of the Note.
While I do agree there currently is a noticeable performance lag when certain functions/tasks are carried out; app switching and the recents key being the most prevalent for me. Being software related, it's only a matter of time before any and all performance issues are resolved. Besides, these things are to be expected when adopting the latest and greatest.
Personally, I'm not putting any stock in the devices' (supposed) susceptibility to scratching. To be fair - I am acutely mindful of the how, what, and where my phone is being placed. As such, the device is never in a position to suffer a scratch.
All petty complaints aside, this iteration of the Note is still a vast improvement over the 5.
The way I see it is if you enjoy the device and make use of all that is has to offer - What's the point in abandoning the device for a lesser one? Especially over some silly recall, that probably could have been avoided had these people used the proper, quality, cables to charge the device in the first place.
I'm curious to know what other device(s) you're considering in it's place?
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Ha. If I was looking to make all of my headphones obsolete i'd be down for that...lol
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So no iPhone 7 takers??
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Don't think no one wants this lol
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I was excited about the lg v20...until it was announced.
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I was seriously looking into the v20. It's not as nice looking but the phone will most likely be rooted, good cameras, audio, interchangeable battery, IR blaster, can actually use a tempered glass screen protector, hopefully not as much lag as the note 7. Anyone else considering it??