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Hello all - I don't know if there's any answer to this or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I updated Android myself to 2.1 since apparently AT&T doesn't feel the need to. That has been a fine experience and I've experience nothing negative aside from the wireless network speed. My phone now always has the H (for HSDPA from what I understand) instead of of 3G, but downloads, web browsing, and YouTube are all way slower than they were before. It takes 10 - 15 seconds to download a 750k app usually. I have ran the speed test app from speedtest.net and its results confirm this by showing 44 kbps downstream & 750 kbps upstream speeds.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? I know that HSDPA is supposed to be faster than 3G but this is unbearable - I am almost tempted to use EDGE exclusively because that is all I pick up at home (EDGE service that is) and I get better performance when using the browser than I do with HSDPA (although that is probably more mental than anything since when on HSDPA I am sitting there staring at the phone thinking "What is taking so long!" and when on EDGE I choose something and then don't worry about it for a few because I know it will take some time.
Thanks for any advice!
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Hello all - I don't know if there's any answer to this or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I updated Android myself to 2.1 since apparently AT&T doesn't feel the need to. That has been a fine experience and I've experience nothing negative aside from the wireless network speed. My phone now always has the H (for HSDPA from what I understand) instead of of 3G, but downloads, web browsing, and YouTube are all way slower than they were before. It takes 10 - 15 seconds to download a 750k app usually. I have ran the speed test app from speedtest.net and its results confirm this by showing 44 kbps downstream & 750 kbps upstream speeds.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? I know that HSDPA is supposed to be faster than 3G but this is unbearable - I am almost tempted to use EDGE exclusively because that is all I pick up at home (EDGE service that is) and I get better performance when using the browser than I do with HSDPA (although that is probably more mental than anything since when on HSDPA I am sitting there staring at the phone thinking "What is taking so long!" and when on EDGE I choose something and then don't worry about it for a few because I know it will take some time.
Thanks for any advice!
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This is probably a network coverage issue and nothing you can do about it from a phone standpoint.
Ha! I love the first response had a joker pic because I was thinking of the joker when I wrote "why so sloooow".
Anyways when you say coverage what do you mean precisely? do you simply mean at&t hasnt done enough in my area for hsdpa to be effective? I do always have a full 4 bars of strength on it pretty much.
Thanks!
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Ha! I love the first response had a joker pic because I was thinking of the joker when I wrote "why so sloooow".
Anyways when you say coverage what do you mean precisely? do you simply mean at&t hasnt done enough in my area for hsdpa to be effective? I do always have a full 4 bars of strength on it pretty much.
Thanks!
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Yes, I mean AT&T. Having four bars means that you have a good signal. It does not indicate however how much bandwidth AT&T has allocated to that particular area/tower.
Think of it like a wireless router at home or office. On your laptop or computer, you see that you have a strong WiFi signal but, that does not mean that you have a fast connection as that depends on your DSL/cable connection.
Get my point?
Got it, that's what I feared. So in essence by improving my phone with 2.1 I screwed my phone (currently) with hsdpa
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Got it, that's what I feared. So in essence by improving my phone with 2.1 I screwed my phone (currently) with hsdpa
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No, it did not screw your phone. Your phone is innocent here. It is probably the network. AT&T may have a problem in that area. Did you try the speed somewhere else?
Nope, haven't tried it anywhere else. I didn't mean screw my phone, what I, meant was if at&t is not so good with hsdpa in my area I am stuck with those speeds until that is resolved because I can't force 3g (my speed when I had iphone 3g was usually around 1 mbps)
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I am on att also with the 2.1, luckily im in an area where i get around 2mb/2mb sometimes faster, sometimes slower. Did you try the setting in wirelessnetworks/mobile networks/network mode/ tick wcdma only if not on H. could help not sure, just a thought.
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Nope, haven't tried it anywhere else. I didn't mean screw my phone, what I, meant was if at&t is not so good with hsdpa in my area I am stuck with those speeds until that is resolved because I can't force 3g (my speed when I had iphone 3g was usually around 1 mbps)
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Your phone automatically switches between H/3G/E where available. I also have AT&T and have debranded my phone and did not notice any lag.
your problem is AT&T.
H is higher than 3G. if you got problems with it it`s because the signal is strong enough to use H but it preforms worse than 3G (cunfusing ah?!)
Well I was outside of my town the other day, in the country and noticed I was in hsdpa somehow so I ran a test and out there I was getting on average about 3.7 mbps. I guess where I am most of the time just isn't an optimal spot. Thanks all for the responses!
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Hello Forum,
Not sure if this is a Amaze issue or just a Tmobile 4G issue.
It seems that whenever I want to stream a video one it lags to open up and when it does open up it always gets interupted and seems to have to load again and I get that clock symbol that it is clocking.
I check and even when I have full bars and 4G running full it still seems to happen. I live in the Miami area and supposedly it has good 4G coverage.
I even tested it next to my friend's phone who has Iphone (not even the 4s) on AT&T and we both streamed a video and his started automatically while mine took like 7-8 seconds to open and play.
If anyone has any input or advice, please let me know.
Cuz according to Tmobile commercials especially the ones run during Xmas with elves it should be lightning fast....
Thanks
Sounds like you're throttled..lol
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No, not at all. I have the 5GB Plan and I never go over... Not even close...
I cant believe the little response..
Is anyone else having this problem??
Could people please comment either if your is super fast or having same problem I am having....
Thanks
I have the 5G plan also..I go over it once in awhile. And I have experienced throttle...from what you're describing sounds like a throttle (to me). Which APN are you using? Have you upgraded your SIM card?
You can also check how much data was used with that T-Mo app. MyAccount. I need to use that because I stream and download tons of crap a month..
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try getting speedtest app from the market and run a few tests check your ping and speed, wireless net speeds vary greatly.
whats site are you streaming from and what is the quality
I was wondering if there were any good "VoIP" apps? I've used TextPlus Gold and everything. And I was also wondering how would I setup my Google Voice account if my Player isn't a phone? Any help and suggestion is appreciated. Thanks
I use mobilevoip. My dad and I useit for cheap calling and free to housephones (i think thats the word?)
For texting i use whatsapp. Wish i could use google voice though, but it's for usa only...
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If you are on the US or Canadia, you can use GrooveIP for free calls for the remaining of this year using your Google Voice account with it.
I think you can find GrooveIP for free on the Amazon App Store.
For text, the same App, or just Google Voice.
To text internationally for free, Heywire.
I've tried to use heywire, but when i open it, it stays all time in the screen with the logo and it does nothing...
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apps for call/text
Hey iLoveAndroid13,
for calling use Bobsled Calling... its a REALLY GOOD APP... by the way, I use the Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0 US Version and it works good for me.
and for texting... just use TextPlus, there's nothing bad in it, but its only good use for you if you want to text to US/Canada.
I heard Whatsapp Messenger is good too.. but its not compatible with my device.
Anyhow, I used to use GrooveIP but stopped because the quality is bad.
Hope I helped!
I tried all these apps but they are for USA and Canada only. Heywire is not supported in my country.
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install google voice, then install sipdroid
done.
Thanks everyone. But how do I setup Google voice without a phone number?
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Thanks everyone. But how do I setup Google voice without a phone number?
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You Don't unless you have a GV account. And unfortunately for people living outside North America, there are no "free" options that i know of. You can however, if your country is supported, get a "paid" number from Skype and make very low cost calls.
I'm in Canada and we just got a free app called "Dell Voice" which gives you a free "local" number with which you can make unlimited local calls and unlimited long distance calls to any cellphone/landline to most areas in Canada. And Dell Voice to Dell Voice is always free anywhere in the world.
With a little gadget named gmate (skyroam) connectted to Samsung Galaxy Player we can make regular phone cell Calls, send and received SMS and enjoy GPRS/EDGE Internet conecction anywhere.
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With a little gadget named gmate (skyroam) connectted to Samsung Galaxy Player we can make regular phone cell Calls, send and received SMS and enjoy GPRS/EDGE Internet conecction anywhere.
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Any links for finding that gadget?
Thank you.
EDIT: http://www.skyroam.com
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With a little gadget named gmate (skyroam) connectted to Samsung Galaxy Player we can make regular phone cell Calls, send and received SMS and enjoy GPRS/EDGE Internet conecction anywhere.
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Ohhh its so cool!
There is one problem with it... You need to take it everywhere...
What is the most far distance that can be from the player to this device?
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Ohhh its so cool!
There is one problem with it... You need to take it everywhere...
What is the most far distance that can be from the player to this device?
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The gadget its very little (82 × 46 × 14. 48 gms) most far distance its 10 mts.
A shorts requeriments against the advantges to have a phone like a Samsung Note but a half ot their prize
you can find a lot of reviews in gadget´s pages and blogs around the web
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With a little gadget named gmate (skyroam) connectted to Samsung Galaxy Player we can make regular phone cell Calls, send and received SMS and enjoy GPRS/EDGE Internet conecction anywhere.
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Based on the specs of this device - while fine for text and light browsing, it would be poor for making/receiving calls. You need at least 3G Data - preferably 4G speed for quality calls.
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The gadget its very little (82 × 46 × 14. 48 gms) most far distance its 10 mts.
A shorts requeriments against the advantges to have a phone like a Samsung Note but a half ot their prize
you can find a lot of reviews in gadget´s pages and blogs around the web
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Well its a great idea but i need to take it everywhere even around the house... If i get get out of 10 meters it will stop the call...
I really want to buy it but the only thing that bother me its that i need to take it with me everywhere.
I wish they were invented something like this but it will be connected to your device so you dont have to carry it with you everywhere you go...
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Based on the specs of this device - while fine for text and light browsing, it would be poor for making/receiving calls. You need at least 3G Data - preferably 4G speed for quality calls.
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For me Really works great on making and receiving calls on normaly cellular net, because the Gmate its a mini Cell Phone without screen and keypad that uses Bluetooth link for transmit and received signal with player.
in two weeks of use, I have not experienced any problems of quality in my calls
and when I say none is none
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kfirbep said:
Well its a great idea but i need to take it everywhere even around the house... If i get get out of 10 meters it will stop the call...
I really want to buy it but the only thing that bother me its that i need to take it with me everywhere.
I wish they were invented something like this but it will be connected to your device so you dont have to carry it with you everywhere you go...
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With all due respect, that's why you buy a cell phone as the Galaxy Note
this device is to use the Player as a phone and not really uncomfortable carried it
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For me Really works great on making and receiving calls on normaly cellular net, because the Gmate its a mini Cell Phone without screen and keypad that uses Bluetooth link for transmit and received signal with player.
in two weeks of use, I have not experienced any problems of quality in my calls
and when I say none is none
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With all due respect, that's why you buy a cell phone as the Galaxy Note
this device is to use the Player as a phone and not really uncomfortable carried it
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I know but sometimes i give to my friends the player so they can play and i go to do other stuff.
And if i forget to take it with me so i wont have a phone.
And if i want to take it so i can surf in internet or something like that and i walk from this device more than 10 meters i cant recieve any calls.
Or if you go to the bathroomthat are more than 10 meters distance and the player is on your desk you wont recive calls.
If they were doing it really small so i can put it in my galaxy case or make a device that is connect to the the player it was great because than you always recive calls.
Its really great idea but its not so comfortable to make the device be all the time near the player
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For me Really works great on making and receiving calls on normaly cellular net, because the Gmate its a mini Cell Phone without screen and keypad that uses Bluetooth link for transmit and received signal with player.
in two weeks of use, I have not experienced any problems of quality in my calls
and when I say none is none
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Hello
Maybe your country has better edge data networks than others because here in Canada, edge is only good for light browsing. Also, most edge providers block any voip action. Which is why i don't recommend purchasing this if it only supports edge data networks.
Here is something similar i can get in Canada that gives you faster speeds than edge - shop.windmobile.c a/ProductCatalog/Handsets/DatastickDetails.aspx?id=Huawei%20E583(WINDCA)
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Maybe your country has better edge data networks than others because here in Canada, edge is only good for light browsing. Also, most edge providers block any voip action. Which is why i don't recommend purchasing this if it only supports edge data networks.
Here is something similar i can get in Canada that gives you faster speeds than edge - shop.windmobile.c a/ProductCatalog/Handsets/DatastickDetails.aspx?id=Huawei%20E583(WINDCA)
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I thought its like gmate but its portbal router...
Are there other devices like gmate that can make samsung player to a phone?
My phone just broken so i need a new phone and gmate is almost perfect for me
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Anyone has try wih VIBER? free calling between users (including Android and IOs) and messenger.
Basically i own the One X+ on ATT here in the states and my wife owns the new iPhone 5. We have both never done video calling before so new to this. Just want your guys' input in what app is best for our two phones to video call each other over both 4g/3g network and wifi. We only have wifi at home so on the go would be using mainly 4g as we luckily live in an area where 4g is everywhere.
I've tried Tango but even with 4 bars on 4g network the video quality was kind of crappy and choppy. We were even just 10ft away from one another to try it out and still choppy, not very clear video calling.
Basically what's the best app for quality in the video call over 4g and wifi? I would assume all apps would work great over a good wifi connection but we are on the go a lot so will depend more on 4g connectivity over the ATT network.
Haven't tried the famous Skype app yet as the best reviews doing research all point to Tango. Just not impressed at all with the Tango video quality over Skype.
If it helps my device is rooted and running Elegancia custom rom. My wife is stock iPhone software.
Skype,tango,gtalk,Google plus
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same situation
my fiancee has the iphone 5 and i have the hox+. we use skype, and it does just fine. it seems to work a little better on my end than the iphone end.
OoVoO
I use OoVoO
It's free app and also works great with 3G or 4G also
And it has desktop software too
so you can call on computer also (Just like Skype) .... isn't it great.....
I'm considering getting an HTC One and getting the $30/mo 100 mins, 5Gb plan. I hope to use a VOIP app for most of my calling to make the 100 mins workable. Can anyone recommend a favorite VIP app, preferably one that works with Google Voice (since I've had a GV number for several years now)?
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Try Groove IP app. It uses Google Voice number and transmit call via either wifi or T-Mobile data service
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AirSupply said:
Try Groove IP app. It uses Google Voice number and transmit call via either wife or T-Mobile data service
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Yep, I agree with this and personally use both GrooVe IP and Talkatone for my Google Voice number.
Used GrooveIP fr the first time today. Sprint's 3g network does not seem able to handle it (surprise). Unless there is some setting I can tweak. Even on my home WiFi (23Mbps down, 3 up), a friend complained the voice quality wasn't great. I could hear him fine though. Of course, I can't judge after only two calls.
Hope to try it on Sprint's 4G LTE later.
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Vonage
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Vonage
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Vonage what? Don't you have to subscribe to their service?
More bad luck with Groove today. First, the person I called contnued complain about my voice breaking up. I tried adjusting the buffering, and he reported it got slightly better. But later I called two more people and both could not hear me, as if my mike was muted. I could hear them loud and clear. In fact, quality n my end was better than a typical cell call.
I have to repeat, Sprints network is really slow. But using Groove on my home WiFi yesterday was no better.
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Internet calling on this plan has its highs and lows. Accepting and trying to work around the lows are an unavoidable part of having it, alas.
There is vast talk about these issues in the Nexus 4 forum.
The T-Mobile $30 Prepaid Plan Users Thread has lots of talk about the plan the OP references, plenty of which relates to ways to do wifi calling.
The Free VoIP (internet call) Solutions for Smartphones thread opens with acegolfer's comprehensive and invaluable list of ways to do wifi calling along with some pros and cons for each.
There are plenty of other threads that deal with some of the specifics.
I used this plan for a few months until recently when I switched to a three phone family plan, which made more sense for the way we're using phones as a family. But I really enjoyed the 100 minute talk, 5GB data plan and was sort of sad to let it go. It's a terrific deal, at least by US terms, if you use a lot of mobile data and can live with its phone calling limitations. I have to say, though, that now that I'm on a more conventional plan, I'm happy to have more reliable calling and easier bluetooth usage in the car.
Maybe T-Mobile's wifi calling on the One would be useful with this plan. I don't know, because when we bought the One, we switched out of the $30 plan.
With the $30 plan, I used Spare Phone, which is in the same sort of category as GrooveIP and Talkatone. I had good luck with it, though you may need to do a little tweaking of settings, particularly related to microphone gain. That's the case with any of the VOIP software. Spare Phone's dev is responsive and helpful.
I used Vonage some, but found it to be hopelessly unreliable with lots of dropped calls and problems for whoever was at the other end of the conversation. I had to abandon it out of consideration for other people alone. It doesn't require a paid suscription. Just install the app, register and you're good to go for Vonage to Vonage along with Vonage to phone calling. Skype was much better, with better call quality than the Spare Phone/GrooveIP type stuff. Occasionally, I'd have problems there, too, but not that often. For longer calls, I tended to use that. Otherwise, I mostly I used Spare Phone, occasionally, I'd try GrooveIP.
If you really want to get geeky, the threads above will give you some other alternatives with better potential, but you'll have to invest some time with them, something you may or may not get enjoyment out of.
The biggest negative about all this is T-Mobile's shaky mobile data coverage. There are so many places with poor speeds or no coverage at all that you have to adjust to being in places where you're not going to be able to talk at times. And talking while in a moving vehicle often leads to dropped calls.
Have fun with the plan.
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Internet calling on this plan has its highs and lows. Accepting and trying to work around the lows are an unavoidable part of having it, alas.
Maybe T-Mobile's wifi calling on the One would be useful with this plan.
The biggest negative about all this is T-Mobile's shaky mobile data coverage. There are so many places with poor speeds or no coverage at all that you have to adjust to being in places where you're not going to be able to talk at times. And talking while in a moving vehicle often leads to dropped calls.
Have fun with the plan.
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Thanks. I will check out those threads.
My understanding of Tmo's WiFi calling is that it uses your cell minutes, even though you're calling over the Internet (maybe because it still goes out over their network?).
I'll have to roll the dice with Tmo's data coverage, Sprint's is horrible. Actually, it became worse after they started rolling out their LTE. 3G speeds went down, when you can actually get them at all. 4G is very spotty right now. I'm sure their 4 G will improve, but I've had my EVO LTE a good (bad) year now and I'm tired of paying for promises. By the time they have good coverage, I'll be looking for another phone, and my EVO LTE will rarely have had the chance to actually use LTE! I can't see how Tmo's coverage can be any worse, but at least I'll be throwing away less money.
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Thanks. I will check out those threads.
My understanding of Tmo's WiFi calling is that it uses your cell minutes, even though you're calling over the Internet (maybe because it still goes out over their network?).
I'll have to roll the dice with Tmo's data coverage, Sprint's is horrible. Actually, it became worse after they started rolling out their LTE. 3G speeds went down, when you can actually get them at all. 4G is very spotty right now. I'm sure their 4 G will improve, but I've had my EVO LTE a good (bad) year now and I'm tired of paying for promises. By the time they have good coverage, I'll be looking for another phone, and my EVO LTE will rarely have had the chance to actually use LTE! I can't see how Tmo's coverage can be any worse, but at least I'll be throwing away less money.
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I'm in a populated area where I'd think coverage would be pretty good. And mostly it is. But there are improbable places where it's really weak or non-existent, mostly in residential areas just a few blocks from a busy street.
You sure you're not on Sprint?
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Vonage what? Don't you have to subscribe to their service?
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Free Vonage app. No subscription needed. Just install, set your caller ID, confirm it via text or receiving a call with a pin and you are good. It works great on wifi, OK on TMo 4g and I'm sure it totally sucks as all data does on Sprint non-LTE.
You can't receive calls on it though. I just call people right back and my number shows on their caller ID. Its a lot better than Groove or Talkatone.
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the WiFi calling feature is amazing actually. i already tried calling in asia, europe and guam and its crystal clear.
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the WiFi calling feature is amazing actually. i already tried calling in asia, europe and guam and its crystal clear.
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Are you talking about Tmo's WiFi calling app or Vonage?
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Are you talking about Tmo's WiFi calling app or Vonage?
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Well, that's nice to have that option when you can get a signal. But it still uses your cell minutes.
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Well, that's nice to have that option when you can get a signal. But it still uses your cell minutes.
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im good with the cell minutes because i have unlimited plan, the new plan they introduced. no extra charge
this might help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2281639