Does anyone know of a way to keep HDMI output and close the prime in the dock? I want to watch Netflix but I want to close the prime. If you close it while in the dock, even when outputting video through HDMI, it stops the video.
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I am also interested to know if this is possible.
I thought this would be a little more popular than this. I figured a lot of people would be interested in this.
Similarly, I wish you could turn the screen off on the Prime when using HDMI out, but I don't think it's possible. Very stupid on ASUS' part, but I guess that's not surprising.
lyon21 said:
I thought this would be a little more popular than this. I figured a lot of people would be interested in this.
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This is really similar to asking if you can keep watching netflix after pressing the lock button on your tablet.
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This is really similar to asking if you can keep watching netflix after pressing the lock button on your tablet.
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It's a legitimate request. My laptop running Windows 7 allows me to disable its display when outputting via HDMI to conserve battery. I don't see why this option can't be included with the Prime.
nyijedi said:
It's a legitimate request. My laptop running Windows 7 allows me to disable its display when outputting via HDMI to conserve battery. I don't see why this option can't be included with the Prime.
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1) The tablet is not a laptop, it's a tablet.
2) When you lock the tablet, it will no longer display.
3) Closing the tablet in the keyboard auto-locks the tablet (which makes complete sense).
Solutions:
1) Don't fully close the tablet & dock
2) Take the dock off and lay the tablet down so it's flat
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1) The tablet is not a laptop, it's a tablet.
2) When you lock the tablet, it will no longer display.
3) Closing the tablet in the keyboard auto-locks the tablet (which makes complete sense).
Solutions:
1) Don't fully close the tablet & dock
2) Take the dock off and lay the tablet down so it's flat
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Ummmm, I think you're missing the point.
1) We all know that a tablet is not a laptop.
2) We all know that locking the tablet turns off the display.
3) We all know that closing a docked tablet locks the tablet, and thus, turns off the display.
The point is that there is no reason that Asus can't write their software so that when an HDMI connection is present, the user has an option to disable the display on the tablet.
Your "solutions" don't address an important concern, which is needlessly wasting battery by having tje display on when it's not in use.
Most content I play is 1080P so when I hook it up to my TV, the display turns off except for the bottom bar.
There is no way to do this other than wait for a ROM to come out.
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Ummmm, I think you're missing the point.
1) We all know that a tablet is not a laptop.
2) We all know that locking the tablet turns off the display.
3) We all know that closing a docked tablet locks the tablet, and thus, turns off the display.
The point is that there is no reason that Asus can't write their software so that when an HDMI connection is present, the user has an option to disable the display on the tablet.
Your "solutions" don't address an important concern, which is needlessly wasting battery by having tje display on when it's not in use.
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I'm sure ASUS will put this at the top of their list.
For now, since you will be next to an electical outlet anyways, how about plugging in the charger while you watch?
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I'm sure ASUS will put this at the top of their list.
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What's with the sarcasm? The guy has an absolutely legit concern / feature request. I agree that he is not likely to see it on anything from Asus in the near futures, same as we are not going to get control of dual battery charge/discharge policy, but that does not preclude the fact that his request makes a ton of sense. Why output video to both screen, or rather, why not provide a toggle in software to shut the tablets display?
Granted, when i have an HDMI connection, I am often else enough to an outlet to plug in the charger, but again that's not what the OP is requesting. We could further extend the display life, and reduce heat & wear & tear on the tablet with this VERY basic ability. Just because something is not important to you doesn't make it irrelevant for the rest of us, or for Asus. Fortunately Asus actually DOES listen to their customer base. It's just been hard to notice with all the teething pains the Prime has experienced.
this is a good point, because when listening to pandora i can close the dock and the music keeps playing
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What's with the sarcasm? The guy has an absolutely legit concern / feature request. I agree that he is not likely to see it on anything from Asus in the near futures, same as we are not going to get control of dual battery charge/discharge policy, but that does not preclude the fact that his request makes a ton of sense. Why output video to both screen, or rather, why not provide a toggle in software to shut the tablets display?
Granted, when i have an HDMI connection, I am often else enough to an outlet to plug in the charger, but again that's not what the OP is requesting. We could further extend the display life, and reduce heat & wear & tear on the tablet with this VERY basic ability. Just because something is not important to you doesn't make it irrelevant for the rest of us, or for Asus. Fortunately Asus actually DOES listen to their customer base. It's just been hard to notice with all the teething pains the Prime has experienced.
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1) He asked a question and it was answered
2) He already knows the answer to the questions he continued to ask
3) This isn't the Q&A forum, or the ASUS request forum, etc.
kls629 said:
this is a good point, because when listening to pandora i can close the dock and the music keeps playing
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Absolutely, that is basically what I would like it to do. I don't understand why it is so hard for people to comprehend. Basically, that is all it would do. Especially since the display goes completely black other than the bottom bar when watching Netflix through HDMI.
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1) He asked a question and it was answered
2) He already knows the answer to the questions he continued to ask
3) This isn't the Q&A forum, or the ASUS request forum, etc.
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Hey Mister Moderator! How are you today? I'm glad you can point point me to the Q&A forums. However, the great part is that this is the "General" section. This is a general question that was meant to start a educated conversation. If people can post 8,000 new threads *****ing about every little thing that is wrong with the LAUNCH PRIME, I can post a legitimate concern/question/conversation starter. I understand this is a tablet and not a laptop. The feature that I am talking about is also SOFTWARE related not HARDWARE related so the fact is that, on this particular feature, the Prime being a tablet doesn't make a single difference in the world. Also, I know I could plug it in so I don't have to worry about battery life. The fact is, I don't have an open outlet in that spot. Not to mention the fact that, as someone else stated previously, it would cut down on display usage and therefore reduce screen time, heat and just overall wear on the LCD. Is this too hard for someone people to understand? If you are going to be a D**K about it, don't post here. Go post in one of the 8,000 threads about people having issues with their Prime. Thank you and have a nice day!
I wish there was an "Un-Thanks" button!!! Maybe that can be added?
lyon21 said:
Absolutely, that is basically what I would like it to do. I don't understand why it is so hard for people to comprehend. Basically, that is all it would do. Especially since the display goes completely black other than the bottom bar when watching Netflix through HDMI.
Hey Mister Moderator! How are you today? I'm glad you can point point me to the Q&A forums. However, the great part is that this is the "General" section. This is a general question that was meant to start a educated conversation. If people can post 8,000 new threads *****ing about every little thing that is wrong with the LAUNCH PRIME, I can post a legitimate concern/question/conversation starter. I understand this is a tablet and not a laptop. The feature that I am talking about is also SOFTWARE related not HARDWARE related so the fact is that, on this particular feature, the Prime being a tablet doesn't make a single difference in the world. Also, I know I could plug it in so I don't have to worry about battery life. The fact is, I don't have an open outlet in that spot. Not to mention the fact that, as someone else stated previously, it would cut down on display usage and therefore reduce screen time, heat and just overall wear on the LCD. Is this too hard for someone people to understand? If you are going to be a D**K about it, don't post here. Go post in one of the 8,000 threads about people having issues with their Prime. Thank you and have a nice day!
I wish there was an "Un-Thanks" button!!! Maybe that can be added?
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I'd also "unthanks" redpoint13 if given the option. I don't know what his problem is.
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nyijedi said:
I'd also "unthanks" redpoint13 if given the option. I don't know what his problem is.
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I think we should have a "Troll Meter" just like the "Thanks Meter"! We could have people press the "Troll" button and then if someone disagrees that the person is a troll, they can press the "Not a Troll" button. Then, after so many " Troll" votes, you get some kind of warning/infraction. However, we would probably have to give infractions to people who abuse the "Troll" button as well.
Note: I am not purely against trolls because some of them make me laugh my @$$ off. The "Troll" button could be for the douchebags that aren't even funny.
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What's with the sarcasm? The guy has an absolutely legit concern / feature request. I agree that he is not likely to see it on anything from Asus in the near futures, same as we are not going to get control of dual battery charge/discharge policy, but that does not preclude the fact that his request makes a ton of sense. Why output video to both screen, or rather, why not provide a toggle in software to shut the tablets display?
Granted, when i have an HDMI connection, I am often else enough to an outlet to plug in the charger, but again that's not what the OP is requesting. We could further extend the display life, and reduce heat & wear & tear on the tablet with this VERY basic ability. Just because something is not important to you doesn't make it irrelevant for the rest of us, or for Asus. Fortunately Asus actually DOES listen to their customer base. It's just been hard to notice with all the teething pains the Prime has experienced.
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Regarding saving battery, you can't CLOSE the lid however you CAN use bsplayer and move the brightness slider down to 0 turning the backlight completely OFF. Another peculiarity I noticed is that if you turn it up to 100% in bsplayer, regardless of whether super ips + is on or off, it sets it to a brightness setting of 100%+superips+. Personally I'd rather have the system like that where "super ips +" is just a continuation of the slider. Oh well, I love it anyways
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lyon21 said:
Absolutely, that is basically what I would like it to do. I don't understand why it is so hard for people to comprehend. Basically, that is all it would do. Especially since the display goes completely black other than the bottom bar when watching Netflix through HDMI.
Hey Mister Moderator! How are you today? I'm glad you can point point me to the Q&A forums. However, the great part is that this is the "General" section. This is a general question that was meant to start a educated conversation. If people can post 8,000 new threads *****ing about every little thing that is wrong with the LAUNCH PRIME, I can post a legitimate concern/question/conversation starter. I understand this is a tablet and not a laptop. The feature that I am talking about is also SOFTWARE related not HARDWARE related so the fact is that, on this particular feature, the Prime being a tablet doesn't make a single difference in the world. Also, I know I could plug it in so I don't have to worry about battery life. The fact is, I don't have an open outlet in that spot. Not to mention the fact that, as someone else stated previously, it would cut down on display usage and therefore reduce screen time, heat and just overall wear on the LCD. Is this too hard for someone people to understand? If you are going to be a D**K about it, don't post here. Go post in one of the 8,000 threads about people having issues with their Prime. Thank you and have a nice day!
I wish there was an "Un-Thanks" button!!! Maybe that can be added?
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Once again you are answering all your own questions.
Secondly, since it doesn't matter that it's a tablet, please post which tablets you are aware of that let you run HDMI after locking the screen.
redpoint13 said:
Once again you are answering all your own questions.
Secondly, since it doesn't matter that it's a tablet, please post which tablets you are aware of that let you run HDMI after locking the screen.
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Please tell me which tablets can also sit in a dock like the Prime, other than the og transformer, and has HDMI out. I mean, come on, its not like it would be a dumb feature or something. The Prime know when its docked and when HDMI is connected. It shows both in the bottom right corner. Why would you want to leave it open and have the screen on when you won't even be looking at it and nothing will be displaying except a black lit screen ? Not to mention, I have fallen asleep with it there and I have cats who like to walk around by the TV. It would be a little safer. Don't ya think? Or is that too hard to comprehend as well? It seems that your are the only one who can't get the idea.
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Hola!
So I really really REALLY like SGS2 and would love to get one. But before I do, one question...
I like to keep my phone plugged in and turned on while I'm at work or at home at the computer. But having done some reading, I see that SGS2 is susceptible to the screen burn in issue. Is that true? Should I not get it in that case?
As I said, I REALLY like the phone, but if I need to change my usage habits just to avoid a known issue, I'd rather look for an alternative.
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Hola!
So I really really REALLY like SGS2 and would love to get one. But before I do, one question...
I like to keep my phone plugged in and turned on while I'm at work or at home at the computer. But having done some reading, I see that SGS2 is susceptible to the screen burn in issue. Is that true? Should I not get it in that case?
As I said, I REALLY like the phone, but if I need to change my usage habits just to avoid a known issue, I'd rather look for an alternative.
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It's got a SAMOLED screen. Google's your friend...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED#Disadvantages
^^ Ditto!
OP - SGS2 is NOT for you. Further if you like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times, I suggest the much cheaper MagicJack.
yes, I'm aware of what type of screen it has, thank you. That's the reason I asked about the issue.
I've never had a phone with an amoled screen, so I can only go off of others' experience.
What I'm wondering about is if there are any solutions that would go along with my usage habits. I don't remember what phone I was reading about (Nexus One?), but it had a feature where it would display a moving clock screensaver when docked in. Something along those lines when plugged into USB? Or maybe there are some new technology improvements in SGS2 that I don't know about?
OP - SGS2 is NOT for you. Further if you like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times, I suggest the much cheaper MagicJack.
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Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said I "like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times"
If you're going to leave the screen on for a long time every day on the same screen, there will be a burn in. But I imagine with normal use (even for extended periods of time, but the screen changes screens often) there shouldn't be any problems.
So I'd probably skip on this phone if you leave the phone on for 8 hours on the same screen. Maybe the HTC Sensation? Also a VERY good phone, just not as good as the SGS2 ^^
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If you're going to leave the screen on for a long time every day on the same screen, there will be a burn in. But I imagine with normal use (even for extended periods of time, but the screen changes screens often) there shouldn't be any problems.
So I'd probably skip on this phone if you leave the phone on for 8 hours on the same screen. Maybe the HTC Sensation? Also a VERY good phone, just not as good as the SGS2 ^^
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Yeah, my main concern is when I'm at work, since I'm at my desk most of the time there. I'll probably have to settle on the Sensation after all. As you said, it's really nice, but not quite as good as SGS2. Such a shame >_<
Thanks for the suggestion!
Why do you keep the screen on all day?
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intruda119 said:
Why do you keep the screen on all day?
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I text a lot and get a bunch of emails usually. It really annoys me to have to turn on/unlock the phone every time I get a notification. It's nice to see it a glance when it's on the desk in front of you.
meshdub said:
I text a lot and get a bunch of emails usually. It really annoys me to have to turn on/unlock the phone every time I get a notification. It's nice to see it a glance when it's on the desk in front of you.
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text app like handcent allows your screen to turn on when you receive a message with a popup message, you can read it immediately and reply instantly without pressing any extra button.
androidsjonnie said:
text app like handcent allows your screen to turn on when you receive a message with a popup message, you can read it immediately and reply instantly without pressing any extra button.
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Yeah, I actually use it. But I don't always read the texts right away while working. And if the phone is unplugged, it will go back to sleep after a popup shows up.
It's just a personal preference =)
Its funny how lazy people have gotten.
I had original sgs2 for about a year and left it on bright screens with random things on with no burn in issues.
Had sgs2 for a month and have left it on overnight while on lockscreen(bright orange) and others and have no burn in issues.
I haven't personally seen any claims of burn on these forums or sgs forums. Just mostly people asking about it.
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Ha, have to admit, I'm pretty lazy
But that's interesting that there's been no reports of it happening... Hmm wonder if I should just say F it and go for it. But then again, I guess you'd have to be consistent about leaving your screen on for long periods of time. I doubt it would burn in if you leave it on for a night or two.
Why don't you go search some of the SGS and variant threads as well as the Nexus S. They use the same screen technology and have been out a lot longer. If they aren't experiencing issues you probably won't either.
BarryH_GEG said:
Why don't you go search some of the SGS and variant threads as well as the Nexus S. They use the same screen technology and have been out a lot longer. If they aren't experiencing issues you probably won't either.
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I did search before creating the thread. I saw some people reporting burn ins on other phones, but wasn't sure if anything has been improved lately technology-wise that could prevent the issue. I guess not...
I do realize though that it's quite early to see such reports on SGS2.
meshdub said:
yes, I'm aware of what type of screen it has, thank you. That's the reason I asked about the issue.
I've never had a phone with an amoled screen, so I can only go off of others' experience.
What I'm wondering about is if there are any solutions that would go along with my usage habits. I don't remember what phone I was reading about (Nexus One?), but it had a feature where it would display a moving clock screensaver when docked in. Something along those lines when plugged into USB? Or maybe there are some new technology improvements in SGS2 that I don't know about?
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said I "like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times"
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yes you can and will burn in your AMOLED screen if left on all the time.
my nexus one actually has in the instruction manual to not use the phone for more than 30 minutes of screen on time. that's actually written in the OFFICIAL manual. perhaps later generations of amoled from samsung got better, but burn in still will happen.
note: i use my nexus one with screen on for 3 hours at a time, but i just dont leave a static image in one spot. i'm constantly web browsing etc so no real issue of major burn in. however my status bar did get burnt into the screen after the first month of owning the nexus one. not bad, but present.
meshdub said:
Ha, have to admit, I'm pretty lazy
But that's interesting that there's been no reports of it happening... Hmm wonder if I should just say F it and go for it. But then again, I guess you'd have to be consistent about leaving your screen on for long periods of time. I doubt it would burn in if you leave it on for a night or two.
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there are PLENTY of threads right here at XDA complaining about burn in on samsung amoled and super amoled screens. start in the nexus one forum, then search the galaxy s forum.
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I like hehe!
I never thought of it this way. Should I hire security or pack some heat?
Nicely put... like it!
a40dayflud818 said:
I never thought of it this way. Should I hire security or pack some heat?
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The TouchPad, by nature is simply not one of those run-of-the-mill type tablets. People will try to take it from you. People are fascinated by the simple fact that it's a tablet that's not an iPad. Like even if you have say an iPad guy and a TouchPad guy in one room, people have always been attracted to the TouchPad, that's how it's always been...
Lmao.. this is so true. I can't take it out in public or around family without being asked 20 questions. It's a shame HP stopped making them, but then again I may not have bought a $499 touchpad.
Be Extra Careful With Peripherals
Someone once wrapped tin foil around their TouchPad then put it on the Touchstone charger...it exploded. Yeah, don't do that.
Make sure you never lose your charging plug. The HP TouchPad charges at a certain voltage and will not charge from computer. You don't want to lose it.
I've heard stories of people losing their chargers and going out to buy inductive charging units, (other than touchstone) like a powermat.
I wonder if that works?
^ I don't have a Touchstone
it'll charge from a pc when off for sure. Takes considerably longer though.
Heads up, if you take a screenshot with webOS, you need to go to CM7 to find it.
I have to say, I always have my laptop, TouchPad and cell at my desk, but when I get a notification, I put the other two down and check out on the TouchPad. Its much faster and more intuitive.
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I have to say, I always have my laptop, TouchPad and cell at my desk, but when I get a notification, I put the other two down and check out on the TouchPad. Its much faster and more intuitive.
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You're telling the truth. The TouchPad is the go-to device for email. The experience is so nice..! I'll sit right in front of my laptop and use it, I check my email exclusively on my TouchPad.
lol same here.
If you're in a full screen card, you can close a card using the full page flip method.
Swipe from just below the screen (like you normally would to close a card) then quickly swipe in a downwards motion from the center of the screen to catapult the card off the top of the screen.
Most common question I get is, "Is that an iPad?".
Have you read the headlines? It's about how cheap tabs are the new thing. That's strange..
I don't think cheap tabs are where it's at...
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Most common question I get is, "Is that an iPad?".
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I have also gotten that question a fair amount :-( My standard response these days is simply this. "No, anybody can have an iPad, I have something much more rare and useful and exclusive...a Touchpad. Don't bother looking, YOU can't get one".
That ends the stupid questions I find. ;-)
Watch out for HP TouchPad hoarding. lol
I went into town again today- it happend yet again! I love it!!!!
Has anyone tried this with their Photon? http://www.verizonwireless.com/moto-bluetooth-smart-controller.shtml
Here is a video to see exactly what it does. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nurgwe20cO4
I bought myself this thing for Christmas from Verizon, and I am wondering if mine is defective, of if this thing just sucks. It looks so awesome, and more or less it works, but none of the multi touch gestures work.
This little track pad is supposed to support pinch to zoom, rotate, etc. In webtop it's supposed to support scrolling and other actions. But, it doesn't say it specifically supports them on the Photon. There are videos of it working on the RAZR. The bluetooth calling and answering work perfectly, which is really cool.
But the other problem is that it frequently disconnects for about 10 seconds, then reconnects. It seems to do it more when I try to use one of the multi-touch gestures.
The other con, that I think would be there even if I had a unit that was working properly, is that the mouse speed needs to be turned way up to use this thing effectively. It's too slow natively to navigate quickly around your big screen TV, and I had to swipe over the pad several times to move from one end of the screen to the other.
I still think it has potential. I was hoping it would be the solution I was looking for. Webtop watching Hulu on my big screen, phone rings, and I can just answer from my remote. Go back to watching hulu. Switch to mirror mode and play some N64 games when I am done, all leaving the phone docked. You can even use some of the voice actions to interact with the other features of the phone right from the controller.
Anyway, maybe some of your thoughts? Do you think this is defective, or the multi-touch gestures aren't compatible with MoPho?
That thing looks awesome. Have you tried calling motorola support? Keep us posted on how it works though.
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Not to be rude, but have you lost your f***in' mind, it's cool and all, but unless you're rich, or have hit the lottery, I doubt it's worth spending that much money for... You can get a Targus Tablet Keyboard for less that does the same thing, sans the trackpad...
I would have to assume that it would be compatible, it may be defective. It appears that the multi touch gestures are a part of the actual device instead of being interpreted on the phone itself. I can only assume this because it works on my Xoom, my RAZR, my wife's Thunderbold, and my wife's Galaxy tab.
And no, I don't think anyone has lost their minds, I have one myself that works very nicely with my RAZR and it was a sound investment given that I use it much like Bradleyw801 does. My phone stays docked, then I pull up Netflix or Hulu or whatever else I want to watch or do on the phone and still be able to use it as a phone if needed. I would say that it is almost a must for any phone with Webtop that will be used while docked.
Side note Bradley, check out a really cool app called Spool, it can pull video from websites for offline viewing...
deedscreen said:
Not to be rude, but have you lost your f***in' mind, it's cool and all, but unless you're rich, or have hit the lottery, I doubt it's worth spending that much money for... You can get a Targus Tablet Keyboard for less that does the same thing, sans the trackpad...
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Hahaha, well, thank you for your opinion. I actually have a targus tablet keyboard, I bought it from Radio Shack back on my OG Evo. It's a great keyboard, but it actually doesn't have all the Android hardware keys working correctly. That keyboard is more designed for iOS devices. It's fine for typing, but I frequently have to re-pair it, and it's a little bit of a pain. If someone is looking for a bluetooth keyboard, I would actually recommend the Motorola Android Bluetooth Keyboard. I haven't been real happy with my Targus, and my friend has the Moto one. It's much more tailored for Android.
Also, you say "sans the trackpad", kind of ironic since that's literally the main reason to buy this. But you also seem to have missed where it works as a bluetooth headset, allowing you to make and take calls from the device while leaving your phone connected. The trackpad and mouse input are what I really want. I have a blutooth mouse, with a scroll wheel and everything, and when I am watching things from my phone on my TV, it's inconvenient to have to find a flat surface to move the mouse on. This made it so I could navigate laying down, with it under a blanket, or just in my hand. It's just much more comfortable and convenient. Plus, if I get a call, and I am super comfortable, I don't have to get up to answer it. I can answer it right there.
If you have never used your MoPho to watch content on your TV from either webtop, or the phone itself, this may seem frivolous, but if you have, then you can see the need for this.
I did call Moto, and they are as expected, pretty useless. They tried to walk me through rebooting the phone, and turning on bluetooth, and all of the really basic stuff, so I patronized them and did, but once it got down to the nuts and bolts, they were stumped and told me to return it.
I am going to take it into Verizon today and try to use it on the Razr or Xoom like another poster suggested. If it has issues there, then I can clearly rule it out as being defective. If it works on those, but not on my MoPho, then I may be back to the drawing board. Thanks for your help guys. I will let you know if I can get this working, as I still think it's something many people would care about.
I have one of these and the bluetooth keyboard coming. I'll let you know how it works on my mopho.
KSmithInNY said:
I have one of these and the bluetooth keyboard coming. I'll let you know how it works on my mopho.
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Are you really that rich and that bored? Really?
I have HDMI out on my Desktop, never used it!
I have HDMI cable for Photon, too lazy to test it.
I have PS3 and 4 controllers, never used that either.
I have 2 laptop computers, I think they work!
I have gas stove, I think it works too!
I have 41" TV in Spare bedroom, never turned it on (matter fact, no sure its still there!)
I have 4-in-1 Game Table, I have not played one game of pool, Air Hockey, Fooseball or Ping Pong!!
Point is, why buy more worthless (and I mean that both ways! Not going to use it and it really is worthless!) crap!
EDIT: I have MoPho Photon, I think I can make calls!!! XDA, text, and internet work. Last actual phone call was 2 weeks (lying, operators called me at 3:45AM 2 nights ago. Phone works!)
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Are you really that rich and that bored? Really?
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Lol I wish. Luckily the only device specific accessories I've purchased are the car dock and HD dock ($78 together) so I'll sell those with the phone when I get rid of it.
The lapdock 500 (assuming google continues support), the moto smart controller, and moto bluetooth keyboard aren't device specific so I can use them on my Motorola Nexus
Alright so my smart controller arrived today and i gave it a quick 30 minute test drive and here's my initial thoughts:
FYI - I RSD'd a stock 198_7 SBF prior to testing. I did root it, but made no modifications, and the bootloader was locked so obviously, stock recovery.
1) Multi-touch doesn't completely not work as indicated in the OP. Pinch to zoom doesn't work, nor does rotate, but i've found 2 finger scrolling (in apps, in the app drawer, browser, etc) to work quite well. A little drag of 2 fingers up or down gives me a nice smooth scroll.
2) No issues with disconnect/reconnect for me. The mouse icon does disappear from my screen after a about 10 seconds of inactivity, but it's still 100% connected as can be seen by the bluetooth icon in the notification bar still being solid blue and going into settings shows the device is still connected. When i lightly touch the mouse pad, it wakes back up.
3) The OP was spot on with you need to adjust the scrolling speed of a mouse. Prior to turning it to "fastest" it took several swipes to move a couple inches. With the settings for the device turned up to the highest it seems to work just fine for me.
4) The volume rocker on the side of the mouse controls the ringer volume on the phone. Pretty cool.
5) The OP was spot on with the phone function also not working.
6) The USB charging cable that comes with it is the shortest, most unusable POS I've ever seen. It is literally like 4 inches long. No it does extend, no there's no magic involved .... it's just short and provides no purpose.
Final Thought - It's cool but not $100 cool. With it's current functionality, I'd value it at about $30. Once everything is fixed I'd gladly shell out $50 for it, and would begrudgingly pay $70 if I had to. Never though, would i pay $100 for it, even fully functional. Once everything works i could see this being useful if a person has and uses a lapdock and also the HD station. If you don't have either or even if you own them but don't use them regularly, this device is kind of pointless.
Hope that makes sense.
KSmithinNY,
Your opinion as an active forum member is greatly appreciated and valued.
Now, let me give you my opioion. You have too much Damm Money!!!!!
Told you not to get that crap!! But, if you lend me $30.00 (actual worth) I'll take the crap off your hands!!! (God, some days I kill myself!)
EDIT: Look for my "Things that piss off dsims7_2000" thread!
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KSmithinNY,
Your opinion as an active forum member is greatly appreciated and valued.
Now, let me give you my opioion. You have too much Damm Money!!!!!
Told you not to get that crap!! But, if you lend me $30.00 (actual worth) I'll take the crap off your hands!!! (God, some days I kill myself!)
EDIT: Look for my "Things that piss off dsims7_2000" thread!
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Ha ha ha I hear yah man. I'll keep you in mind if I feel like donating it. I enjoy participating in the community as much as I enjoy contributing so you might be surprised.
Send that crap to my crib and I will have you arrested!!! I'm the one that told you it was crap in the first place!!!
For some unknown reason, sometimes the keyboard will get stuck in caps lock (without caps lock being on) and other times the typing cursor will go back to the start of a paragraph, usually interrupting a sentence that I'm already typing out.
The pads inside the keyboard dock near the connector are starting to rub off from the cheap glue not holding it properly. Design flaw from not thinking that the Tablet will be frequently removed and inserted into the dock.
The rubber bumper on the bottom of the keyboard dock near the touchpad fell off. Cheap glue is the culprit.
Touchpad is a redundant feature to the Prime, and really has no point in even being on it. I'd rather have better battery life instead of it. (Purely opinion.)
If holding shift while pressing backspace, it will not delete. Keyboard needs multi-press functionality.
Mura on the screen. (Bright spot)
Internal GPS basically doesn't exist since it doesn't work well.
Both the tablet and keyboard dock are very easily scratched. There's more irregular scratch marks on the back of the tablet compared to the laser-etched rings.
The stock browser, even after a factory reset (.28), is completely unstable and hangs/stutters/crashes regularly at least 20 times a day.
The worst part about the browser is that some days it's highly unstable and then another day it works perfectly.
I haven't had issues with Wifi or Bluetooth, Wifi has been fine. I don't use Bluetooth so I'm unsure if it's a problem.
Lastly, while the screen is gorgeous, the colors are a tad warm.
And sadly, my phone performs better than my Prime while simply browsing the internet and handling multiple tasks. (Samsung Infuse 4G)
For those who feel the need to give this thread a low rating, that's fine, because this is (for the most part) fact-based problems with MY Prime. You can pretend your Prime is perfect, but it's not. I may be picky, sure, but these are problems that I'm not just making up with the one I have now.
This also isn't saying "Oh no the Prime is teh worzt tablut evuuurrr dn't buy dis." I'm just sharing the negatives I've experienced with my model of the TF201. Perhaps even informative to ASUS so they'll better know how to refine their next models. (If they even look at this post, which is highly unlikely.)
I still believe the Prime is a premium tablet, but it DOES have issues.
So return it and wait or get something else..... Logic
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its possible your stock browser still using old data. to remedy this, clear your browser cache then reboot. then hopefully your stock browser will be working fine. just try it if you haven't already
as for the cursor jumping while docked, I have THST issue also. its only happens while the touchpad is enabled. remedy for that is to press the button on dock to disable touchpad. then THST problem goes away. since you don't like touchpad, I would figure you'd disable it anyways.
GPS dongle is the solution to internal GPS. if you don't have GPS dongle, you better send off for one asap. its free and the offer ends very soon. just go to Asus website where you register your prime and fill out the GPS dongle application. then you will receive it in a week or 2.
People need to stop including GPS as a problem there's no use for it on a tablet so it doesn't matter if it doesn't work!
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I would suggest you to download the .28 again, this time from the Asus Webpage, and install it from the SD Card. If you keep having those weird issues I think you got a defective Prime.
I connect/Disconnect my prime from the dock very often, and I have had none of the issues you describe.
If holding shift while pressing backspace, it will not delete. Keyboard needs multi-press functionality.
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Thats actually a feature... shift+backspace = sup.
Keyboard has multi-press functionality. There is a file around here in XDA with all the short cuts for the keyboard. (there are A LOT of them).
Both the tablet and keyboard dock are very easily scratched. There's more irregular scratch marks on the back of the tablet compared to the laser-etched rings.
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It is full Alu man, what did you expect? Any other Alu tab will get scrated just as easy.
Touchpad is a redundant feature to the Prime, and really has no point in even being on it. I'd rather have better battery life instead of it. (Purely opinion.)
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The TouchPad is also MultiTouch, depending on what you are doing, it IS useful. Specially if you do some precision work and need better accuracy.
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People need to stop including GPS as a problem there's no use for it on a tablet so it doesn't matter if it doesn't work!
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I do use it man! and quite a bit. I dont use the GPS dongle since I use a TranSleeve, GPS on my Prime works wonders when outside.
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So return it and wait or get something else..... Logic
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1) Can't RMA it because ASUS will claim CID on it (customer induced damage) because of the dent on the corner. (I'm also not willing to wait 3 weeks just for them to mark it CID).
2) Can't return it, even if I followed the instruction of that one forum post telling you to call ASUS and tell them about not being satisfied, etc etc. PLUS it's way past the 14 day return policy, not just by a month or two, but 5. Plus what I said above about CID. You can't return a damaged product (physically) and expect a full refund.
Logic.
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its possible your stock browser still using old data. to remedy this, clear your browser cache then reboot. then hopefully your stock browser will be working fine. just try it if you haven't already
as for the cursor jumping while docked, I have THST issue also. its only happens while the touchpad is enabled. remedy for that is to press the button on dock to disable touchpad. then THST problem goes away. since you don't like touchpad, I would figure you'd disable it anyways.
GPS dongle is the solution to internal GPS. if you don't have GPS dongle, you better send off for one asap. its free and the offer ends very soon. just go to Asus website where you register your prime and fill out the GPS dongle application. then you will receive it in a week or 2.
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I've factory reset the Prime multiple times. I'm pretty sure that deletes the old data. If not, then I'll give it a try.
The cursor jumping is not the touchpad, I always have it disabled. (Else I'd be a hypocrite!)
I have the GPS dongle, and it's great, it's just that I wish that the internal GPS would have been the same.
@Zephyrot
I'll try installing from the SD Card, this wasn't really supposed to become a Q&A, but it wouldn't hurt to take advice.
shift+backspace=sup. what is that? It doesn't help when I type quickly.
Yes I realize that being aluminum that the tablet would scratch, but I'm just nitpicking at that point.
I don't find the touchpad to be helpful because anything I can do on my touchpad, I can do on my screen. Again, this was a purely opinion based point.
Multiple issue threads already... post your problems in one of those threads, instead of starting a new one, please.
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Why would you power down, when the sleep state is as efficient as it is? Do you all turn your devices completely off while you're not using your tablet, or do you just let it sleep?
Picture: My device sleeping for ~8 hours.
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I turn every electronic device off at night when I'm going to sleep.
Its just a personal preference, I just don't like things running and getting wear and tear when I'm not using them at all.
My phone gets turned on when I wake up, but my tablet usually doesn't get turned on until almost 16 hours later due to work and school.
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More than a preferenc, one needs a good, logical reason not to shut if OFF.
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Thank you both for your excellent opinions. This will make for a good argument. I'll do a little experiment... I'll charge my tablet up to 100%, and let it sit in a sleep state for 24 hours, and we'll see how much battery drain it experiences. Check back on Tuesday.
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More than a preferenc, one needs a good, logical reason not to shut if OFF.
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No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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Some browsers dont let them show up properly. It works fine for me and other users.
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No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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This is my exact opinion too.
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No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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this ^
Some people have a need/desire for being able to receive and to know about timely updates of email, news, text messages and calls incoming to cell phone (via apps like cloudsms, tablet talk), etc whether it be for work or just for pleasure. It still baffles me why wptski thinks people have to justify it. Use the tablet however you want to use it. There's no right or wrong way. Where the heck did you read that it was horrible and awful to let your tablet sleep? Why do you think the makers of this tablet (and every single tablet ever created) incorporated the ability for the device to go into deep sleep, a state in which it consumes next to no battery?
I use my Nexus 10 as an alarm clock, and to receive calls and texts with Google Voice; I need it on at all times pretty much
I don't shut mine off. I turn wifi off when I'm done with it and have zero drain. I like to be able to just pick it up and surf the net or play a game. I don't like to wait for it to boot, plus I have a fair share of widgets on my home screen so it usually takes a while to load.
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Some people have a need/desire for being able to receive and to know about timely updates of email, news, text messages and calls incoming to cell phone (via apps like cloudsms, tablet talk), etc whether it be for work or just for pleasure. It still baffles me why wptski thinks people have to justify it. Use the tablet however you want to use it. There's no right or wrong way. Where the heck did you read that it was horrible and awful to let your tablet sleep? Why do you think the makers of this tablet (and every single tablet ever created) incorporated the ability for the device to go into deep sleep, a state in which it consumes next to no battery?
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One has a reason for everything they do. If it's for real time receiving, emails news, etc., fine, that's a reason. To charge in sleep mode overnight without the previous mentioned reasons makes no sense at all.
I use the sleep mode if on battery when I leave the room for whatever. Sure they all have that feature but do think it was intended to be used as the for all extended charging times?
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Some browsers dont let them show up properly. It works fine for me and other users.
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They appeared fine in the other thread just not in this one.
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No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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There you go, a reason. I didn't say it was right or wrong, just simply asked, why, which seemed to really bother some users. The one thing that I'm aware of is that there are some people here that don't like anyone to question why they do something.
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One has a reason for everything they do. If it's for real time receiving, emails news, etc., fine, that's a reason. To charge in sleep mode overnight without the previous mentioned reasons makes no sense at all.
I use the sleep mode if on battery when I leave the room for whatever. Sure they all have that feature but do think it was intended to be used as the for all extended charging times?
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They appeared fine in the other thread just not in this one.
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There you go, a reason. I didn't say it was right or wrong, just simply asked, why, which seemed to really bother some users. The one thing that I'm aware of is that there are some people here that don't like anyone to question why they do something.
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It's just like Plug and Play. Do you unplug your mouse after you stop using your computer? I'm sure you don't. Apply the same principle here and you'll see why it makes it more tedious (I.e. makes no sense in my opinion as well) to shut it down instead of just pressing a button to go into sleep( where it uses little to no battery) and have it ready for you at a moment's notice.
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It's just like Plug and Play. Do you unplug your mouse after you stop using your computer? I'm sure you don't. Apply the same principle here and you'll see why it makes it more tedious (I.e. makes no sense in my opinion as well) to shut it down instead of just pressing a button to go into sleep( where it uses little to no battery) and have it ready for you at a moment's notice.
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No, I don't unplug my mouse but it's not ON. I don't dim a light either, I shut it OFF. More tedious??? Are you serious??? Mine boots in 13 seconds! Nothing is that important that I'd need to use my tablet in a moments notice. This is a difference of priorities in life and may have something to do with age groups.
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More than a preferenc, one needs a good, logical reason not to shut if OFF.
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I disagree. Since turning the tablet off has disadvantages versus sleep, one needs a good reason not to use sleep. Turning off the tablet takes more effort than tapping the power button, or in my case simple using the magnetic switch. Additionally, when you want to use the tablet again it takes less time to wake the tablet. Also, apps will be in the same state that you left them and you can receive notifications, alarms, etc.
The advantage of turning the tablet off? Saving <1% of battery or saving a whole 1% of battery if you are leaving it overnight.
But in the end you're probably right, it is perhaps more than a preference for some. I would akin habitually feeling the *need* to always turn the tablet off to some type of OCD.
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I disagree. Since turning the tablet off has disadvantages versus sleep, one needs a good reason not to use sleep. Turning off the tablet takes more effort than tapping the power button, or in my case simple using the magnetic switch. Additionally, when you want to use the tablet again it takes less time to wake the tablet. Also, apps will be in the same state that you left them and you can receive notifications, alarms, etc.
The advantage of turning the tablet off? Saving <1% of battery or saving a whole 1% of battery if you are leaving it overnight.
But in the end you're probably right, it is perhaps more than a preference for some. I would akin habitually feeling the *need* to always turn the tablet off to some type of OCD.
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Don't you see where you actually gave a reason?? Well, except for the extra effort part, I follow you.
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Sure they all have that feature but do think it was intended to be used as the for all extended charging times?
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Actually yes I do. No where does it say in any manual whatsoever for any tablet or smartphone that you are to turn off the device when charging. Before you I never met anyone who followed this practice. I see turning a device off as supposed to be used for when you are done using a device for a long period of time and dont need it to be on. If we are supposed to turn these off anytime we stop using the tablet or to charge, why would companies bother to spend so much effort looking for ways to bring the device into such deep sleep levels and bring its sleep drain down to next to nothing? Also, if we were supposed to turn a device off then no one would allow charging while connected to a computer to transfer files. You claim we all need to have some great reason for not turning the tablet off, and we are all giving you one. You just wont accept that reason and feel there needs to be a greater one. Yet you have not given any better reason as to why you feel a tablet must be turned off between uses. Also when you first started this debate with your question as to why, the wording you chose implied that we were all wrong and you are right, and everything you have said since then goes more to that mindset. If you don't like that people take what you say the wrong way, then find a different way to say it that isn't so offensive.
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Actually yes I do. No where does it say in any manual whatsoever for any tablet or smartphone that you are to turn off the device when charging.
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I usually don't turn off my devices while charging them either. I did turn my N10 off to charge it one day recently in hopes to charge it as much as possible in a short time span, but I really have no idea if it helped
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Actually yes I do. No where does it say in any manual whatsoever for any tablet or smartphone that you are to turn off the device when charging. Before you I never met anyone who followed this practice. I see turning a device off as supposed to be used for when you are done using a device for a long period of time and dont need it to be on. If we are supposed to turn these off anytime we stop using the tablet or to charge, why would companies bother to spend so much effort looking for ways to bring the device into such deep sleep levels and bring its sleep drain down to next to nothing? Also, if we were supposed to turn a device off then no one would allow charging while connected to a computer to transfer files. You claim we all need to have some great reason for not turning the tablet off, and we are all giving you one. You just wont accept that reason and feel there needs to be a greater one. Yet you have not given any better reason as to why you feel a tablet must be turned off between uses. Also when you first started this debate with your question as to why, the wording you chose implied that we were all wrong and you are right, and everything you have said since then goes more to that mindset. If you don't like that people take what you say the wrong way, then find a different way to say it that isn't so offensive.
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If I would have that asking why somebody did something would cause such a turmoil. Where do get that I expect a great reason to leave it ON while charging overnight? Just a reason is good enough and I got a few. If you have a reason to, leave it ON. Now if somebody leaves it ON every night while charging but not for any of the reasons mentioned it wouldn't make any sense.
If you think that I've been offensive, you can't take criticism very well. You can't be asked why you did something? C'mon!
wow - I didn't expect the bloody spanish inquisition!
almost sounds like an android vs ios thread...
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It's mostly just your unwillingness to accept that some people see no need to turn it off at night, whether they have a specific reason or not. Glad you've come around though, and I hope one day soon, you'll turn off your wifi and let it SLEEP.