I've been watching the development of CM7 and CM9 for the Nook.
My question, is there a reason one would prefer CM7 over CM9? It looks as though the development of the CM9 software is somewhat more complete. I would like to install it as soon as it becomes available but if there are significant advantages to installing CM7, I might consider waiting. Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
rodorr
not every app is CM9 compatible, because it uses new kernel drivers. But CM9 is optimized for tablets and the UI looks way better
SGH T-989
Actually, the CM7 team is significantly further along in their development roadmap than the CM9 team is. They seem to have hit a significant speed bump with the Wi-Fi, though.
CM7:
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HARDWARE FUNCTIONS
Touchscreen FULLY WORKING
Orientation sensors FUNCTIONAL
Sound WORKING
SDCard WORKNING
WIFI PARTIALY WORKING (enabled but won't connect yet)
Hardware video acceleration WORKING
SOFTWARE
Custom Kernel BUILT AND FUNCTIONING
Full tablet version on Cyanogen Mod WORKING
Root Access WORKING
Gapps WORKING
Sleep mode NOT WORKING SOD is quite vicious if you let it sleep, it WILL NOT wake up
Brightness control NOT YET FUNCTIONAL
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CM9:
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CM9 will be a better system to run when they are both released, as it optimized for tablets. But, the group working on CM7 are doing so because they wanted something to run while the CM9 team was working on their build -- believing that CM7 development would be quicker.
The CM9 thread wasn't updated for a long tome. Now almost everything is working. Only Bluetooth, video acceleration, SOP (sleep of death) and the microphone doesn't work. Fatire posted a video on twitter yesterday where he shows what's working and what not
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I add 1, i add 1 i will prefer CM9 because once we have a stable CM9 ROM then we will be able to get MIUI support for our device too which is AWESOME! that is 1 word .
~ Veronica
I don't ready understand why the CM7 team can't use the CM9 team's wifi solution. Do the kernels operate the hardware in fundamentally different ways?
Thanks everyone for the great responses. It certainly helps in making my decision. I think I am going to wait until CM9 is finished for the Nook.
Thanks again.
rodorr
I don't believe that Chainfire3D works with ICS.
Ideally ICS/CM9, but at the end of the day, get me anything other than a hacked up stock rom that "kinda" works like a real android tablet. I am also not putting down the devs that got us a hacked up stock rom that kinda works like a android tablet, cuz I will still take that over the crap that b&n left us. It is all getting better by the day, and as each day passes we will have better roms and better rom options. I will jump on board for which ever one gets completed first and use both when they become available.
I'm interested in comparing battery life.
For me, the preference will be a Gingerbread based OS rather than an HC or ICS based OS.
I have the Asus Transformer and find myself wishing I hadn't bought it. There are a few things it's good at but I much prefer the NT for everything but web browsing and even there the difference isn't huge. For web browsing, I prefer a computer to a tablet of any kind - the physical keyboard is just very helpful to me.
The advantage of Gingerbread for me is that it lets me continue to manage my library with Calibre, and library management is why I gave away the iPad I bought once I realized how impossible curation on it was.
The MTP interface on Honeycomb's abysmal, and from what I've seen ICS won't support direct direct access, either.
Once using parted to resize /data and /media to my interest turned out to be viable, the NT became a very nice device for me, and I'm finding myself using the Transformer very occasionally now.
My BN library's symlinked to the /media partition so I can use Calibre to manage sideloads as well as BN downloads. I'd love to trick it into downloading the non-enhanced magazines rather than the gynormous enhanced magazines, though, and I do wish market visibility was better than it is on the rooted tab.
If both were released tomorrow, CM7 is the better one in my opinion simply because it's a more polished product. CM9 is still in alpha phase and hasn't gotten several features implemented yet. Been trying out CM9 on my phone the last week and while it's working pretty well, it still has a little ways to go. If you don't want to deal with some bugs and missing features early on, I'd use CM7 until CM9 is more cooked.
I would prefer CM9 but seeing that CM9 is still in development for the NT and since CM7 is at alpha, I'm just going to use CM7 for now. Just can't stand the limitations of the stock ROM. Looking forward to CM7!
I just wanted to say that CM7 and/or CM9 will be greatly appriciated by myself and others that like to use thier devices the way they want to. As far as the so called "hacked up rom" that some other developers have come out with, I greatly appriciate what they have done. I am writing this from my NT and have a "hacked up rom" installed, and I love it.
Thanks ro all devs.
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Hi y'all
CM7 beta is now up at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826&page=1 ....
Although I'm gonna go with CM9 as soon as it gets ready (kragoth like sit on edge)
I'm gonna try out CM7 ...
Wait a few days to see the reaction to CM9 and then decide ... CM9 has still not been 'completed' - feature or stability wise . But if the HW accel. of ICS is great I'll jump ship .
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Hi, I'm one of the proud owners of a viewsonic G Tablet, and I want ICS. I want you 'points' to help to make a great and powerful tablet that only costs about $260, and MOST IMPORTANTLY I WANT IT TO HAVE ICE CREAM SANDWICH!
To the point: I am offering $40, and I urge other users to put in a pledge for as little as $1, to make an ICS rom with all the hardware working, full usb functionality, and hardware acceleration by the 20th of December.
Features needed to be included:
*=optional
@=Crucial
-Hardware [email protected]
-Camera [email protected]
-USB working with external storage*
-Cyanogen style settings with lots of options
-Equalizer if its not in the OS*
-WiFi working nearly [email protected]
-The internal storage and memory recognition issues [email protected]
-HTC Sense Weather style widgets *OPTIONAL*
-MIC working (Goes hand in hand with Camera working)
-Face Unlock working with camera (IOW: if there is an issue when the os is first ported it needs to be fixed before release)*
-HTC Style mirror app
-Overclocked CPU to [email protected]
-Sleep button/standby/screen off not crashing the [email protected]
-Newest Market
-Backup working*
-Any other goodies you can think of and/or people really want and offer rewards for below
Really hope a dev sees this and wants some cash! Also, if you finish it earlier and/or with some other cool features I might throw some extra money your way. Good Luck devs! if you want to contact me just sent me a message on the forum for my real email.
Count me in...but I think this is a pipe dream!
From what I understand reading many posts here is that Nvidia will not release the hardware drivers for Honeycomb or ICS. Viewsonic has given up on this product.
Even if people manage to port, it will only be a funky interface running on Gingerbread or Fryo drivers. It will be like running Windows 7 on a Pentium III 500MHz hardware....it will run but wont be the same.
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I kid I kid. Would be wonderful though
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if more people put some money into it then it could be a very possible goal, just put in even as little as $10 and it could totally become available
You guys are obviously uninformed. The flashback team is already working on it for free, but they just started a few days ago. The kernel also needs to come out of alpha testing, it seems to be going well though, not too many bugs, so that means soon (like in 3 weeks max) we will have at the very least honeycomb 3.2, if not Ice cream sandwich. Also money won't make it go any faster.
well thanks, but money is always a nice incentive
I tot flashback's team lead just retired? Saw a post on slatedroid this morning.
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I tot flashback's team lead just retired? Saw a post on slatedroid this morning.
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Me too.
Maybe the $40 windfall will bring them to their senses.
Dan
Seeing that .36 kernel is already in the works for Honeycomb 3.2, they are already working towards making something that should be able to port over to ICS afterwards (hopefully).
well, $40 isn't a huge amount, but if more people said they'd put some cash in 'hint hint' then maybe someone like zyhong would say "eh why not?"
bump for the ics and raised bounty by $20
i'll raise another $20 bucks
Devs over on (the forum that shall not be named) are working their butts off already... FO FRE! But yeah they are working on HC 3.2 and ICS.
Really people?!
People...it's already being worked on! The devs working on this are going as fast as possible but it's a lot of trial and error and it's not their day job!
Money's nice, but it's like a tip. A show of appreciation, more than an incentive. The incentive is just to have it on their own devices!
mf9120 said:
...by the 20th of December....
Not gonna happen
Features needed to be included:
*=optional
@=Crucial
-Hardware [email protected] - Will happen
-Camera [email protected] - Not likely. We don't/won't have drivers for this!
-USB working with external storage* - should happen?
-Cyanogen style settings with lots of options Up to ROM devs. Won't know until after kernel is ready.
-Equalizer if its not in the OS* - Same as above
-WiFi working nearly [email protected] - should happen
-The internal storage and memory recognition issues [email protected] - ?
-HTC Sense Weather style widgets *OPTIONAL* - Doubtful. Not aware of sense on ICS. Use Beautiful Widgets?
-MIC working (Goes hand in hand with Camera working) - Should happen (MIC, not cam)
-Face Unlock working with camera (IOW: if there is an issue when the os is first ported it needs to be fixed before release)* - Again, I doubt cam is likely.
-HTC Style mirror app - ?
-Overclocked CPU to [email protected] - don't know
-Sleep button/standby/screen off not crashing the [email protected] - Will get fixed. This is kind of a "first fix" for the devs as it causes problems in development anyway.
-Newest Market - see below *1
-Backup working* - ?
-Any other goodies you can think of and/or people really want and offer rewards for below
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*1: Please keep in mind that as these ROMs are not registered as compatable devices with Google, technically the use of any Google application is illegal. For the most part ROM devs aren't supposed to include Market, Gmail, etc. in their roms. If Market is included or what version is going to be up to the dev. Also, keep in mind Google has been working to crack down on Market use on non-recognized devices. You may need to use an alternative like the Amazon App Store. I don't like it either, but it is what it is.
Also, on a personal note, WHAT is everyone's deal with the built-in camera? From what little I've used of it in a Gingerbread ROM it's HORRIBLE! Now, what I'm going to work on once we have a stable enough ROM I feel I can test with, is the ability to use a USB webcam! Think, how nice would it be to have it front or rear facing or detachable (use as a barcode scanner?!) and possibly HD! I'm pretty sure it can be done as I think the guys working with beagle board have done it. I'm not very good with this stuff yet, but I think I may be able to hack it!
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Also, on a personal note, WHAT is everyone's deal with the built-in camera? From what little I've used of it in a Gingerbread ROM it's HORRIBLE! Now, what I'm going to work on once we have a stable enough ROM I feel I can test with, is the ability to use a USB webcam! Think, how nice would it be to have it front or rear facing or detachable (use as a barcode scanner?!) and possibly HD! I'm pretty sure it can be done as I think the guys working with beagle board have done it. I'm not very good with this stuff yet, but I think I may be able to hack it!
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You found a Gingerbread ROM with the camera working?! I do believe ch3vr0n5 is trying to get it to work.
Doomguy123 said:
You found a Gingerbread ROM with the camera working?! I do believe ch3vr0n5 is trying to get it to work.
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False, atm nobody cares
fosser2 said:
False, atm nobody cares
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Ok thanks. SO that was a joke?
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Ok thanks. SO that was a joke?
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I'm pretty sure ch3vr0n5's working in either HC or ICS right now.
My cam worked in VeganTab ginger. Still pix only...video.....attempted to work...yeah.
That was a while ago.
I'm good for 20.00
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Ok thanks. SO that was a joke?
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Yes, it was a joke. Wanna see something that isn't a joke...Shot from my G-tablet.
(now for a opinion/statement... don't take this as a negative, the progress being made is great and all the Devs are doing one heck of a job)
ICS is the new hotness and everyone wants it... but it seems that getting it running properly is probably going to take a lot of work and time. (Tbolt still has no data for example)
That is why I am hopping for a GB port. (CM7 for example) In theory, it should be much easier to port that over than ICS right?
We can have some GB AOSP goodness to hold us over until all the kernel problems and other issues with ICS are worked out.
Now if we can get the major bits working on ICS then this is moot. As long as data, wifi, and the phone works, I can handle a few bugs and a few random reboots.
(Once again not trying to be negative or knock down the achievements being made these last few days. I have been following the threads every chance I get.)
So a question to you guys out there... what do you think?
Both are going to take a large amount of time to achieve. Seeing as we have maybe 1 AOSP GB kernel, and I'm not even sure if that works. Also the whole issue with CM7 was the RIL thanks to LTE and that took awhile for the Tbolt to iron out. Also our phone is likely to get an offical release for ICS sooner than the tbolt, and probably will be easier to adapt. Who knows it could take less time and effort this time around to get a functioning RIL. But in my eyes why would they want to dump time into CM7 especially when theres the chance for pure AOSP ICS/Sense ICS on our devices? It's not like our phones don't run great w/ the sense roms at the moment. Only thing irritating me are the bootlops w/ the kernels. Not sure if thats voltage or software stability.. Honestly at this point it would be more wise to put focus onto ICS development. With ALL the improvements that ICS offers would be foolish to stick on GB.
From what I just read in another kernel, data would be an issue regardless.
I was thinking that GB would be easier to get working. If not, then there is no need.
ICS is definitely the way to go.
Data is the usual issue when dealing with these kinds of ports. I'm not sure if anyone is working on a GB AOSP rom, or even if theyre bothering to port CM7. From what I've hard the RIL can be a real pain in the ass.
Figured that sort of thing would be made robust to make it easier to get on many different devices.
You'd think so but software fragmentation is a monster in it's own. But hopefully with ICS we will truly have a unified platform this time around.
Right now they are doing what they can. The real magic will happen after we get the ics update and the ics kernel source.
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I dont know about everyone else, but my phone is running just fine on GB, GingerSense to be exact (and ran fine stock). I think at this point ICS is more of a fanboy thing. All these people want to hop on the bandwagon because it's the newest thing, without even proof it's really going to make the Android experience that much better. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something?
There is proof, it is called the Galaxy Nexus.
ICS will be worth the wait just to get the second core in our dual-core phones running.
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ICS will be worth the wait just to get the second core in our dual-core phones running.
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We're only running on one core now?
Superguy said:
We're only running on one core now?
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It acts more like an overflow core. Honeycomb and ICS are optimized for dual core.
Just like root came, this will come too, in time. I can wait for now.
AtLemacks said:
There is proof, it is called the Galaxy Nexus.
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I have yet to hear of any ICS specific function that makes the Nexus so much better of an experience to the point that I must have ICS asap.
Marine6680 said:
That is why I am hopping for a GB port. (CM7 for example) In theory, it should be much easier to port that over than ICS right?
We can have some GB AOSP goodness to hold us over until all the kernel problems and other issues with ICS are worked out.
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+1!!
bring on cm7
rboddy said:
I have yet to hear of any ICS specific function that makes the Nexus so much better of an experience to the point that I must have ICS asap.
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There is nothing special about the Nexus, per se, but ICS brings further hardware acceleration and dual-core optimization. The Rezound runs rock-solid on GB, but it will be unbelievable on ICS.
Beyond that, I like the re-sizeable and scrollable widgets that are stock-ICS, which brings a great feature to people who use launchers without that ability. And ICS has some really slick widget-updates to YouTube and Gallery, among others. Not to mention finally getting an Email and Gmail widget, although they failed in not having a universal widget for all messages.
How about the fact that ics actually has a design identity and looks decent. Sense gingerbread is horrible.
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I love it on my captivate. Runs smooth as silk
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How about the fact that ics actually has a design identity and looks decent. Sense gingerbread is horrible.
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To each his own. I've always liked how sense looks
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Scroslers ICS is running pretty damn smooth including data, wifi etc
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I'm proud to post here the latest developement for our HTC Flyer. All the credit goes to Drew Garen for his nice work on the device. With the funds we rose all together in the thread here, we got Drew Garen a Flyer to help us developing ICS AOSP from source (not porting). I hope he will enjoy the Flyer as we all do.
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From Drew Garen's website :
Here is my latest download compiled download. It’s based on IceColdSandwich 7.4 and is pretty functional except for a few flaws including graphics, wifi and bluetooth.
What works:
HW Acceleration
Camera
Video Camera
Data
Audio
Internal/External Storage
NTrig Pen
What Doesn’t Work:
Front Camera
Wifi (fix coming next build)
Bluetooth (fix coming next build)
Graphics (fix coming with new kernel)
Graphics are fuzzy sometimes but in my future kernel thats currently a work in progress they will be fixed along with wifi and bluetooth.
Download
Install Info:
You must be on Honeycomb HBOOT S-OFF (I Suggest using Honeycomb HBOOT Light S-OFF) and then boot into revolutionary cmr. Wipe Data/Factory and then install the rom from zip. Reboot and your good.
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Kernel is from Chaosz-X's Git
If you want to donate, he would appreciate extra $$ for his time working.
Great ROM!
Great work @drewgaren.
Great news! I'll wait until this has WiFi though...
Just what we needed , if the accuracy of the NTrig pen is good enough and he fixes the graphical glitch + wifi/bluetooth i guess we have a daily driver soon
Nice.You are the hope of Flyer.
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Great news! I'll wait until this has WiFi though...
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Yup, the level of joy vaporized rapidly when I read there was no Wifi-support yet. Not worth flashing it yet, for me at least.
Great work nonetheless, will keep an eye on this thread. Must have ICS!
First off thank you for your efforts and good luck in continued work on this.
I am not sure it is fair to call this a beta, at this stage it is more like a pre alpha. It boots, as mentioned no wifi, the graphical glitches make it unusable for more than a couple minutes, scrolling is similar to the ice cream panini rom. The weird rotation bug on dexters work seems corrected here. Can not comment on many other features as i am a wifi only user and the graphical glitches make it pretty difficult to actual navigate through the device. Encouraging to see it boot but this is definitely a WIP
can I expect gsm call function in next build? I really love this rom but need phone call function.
manlord said:
I'm proud to post here the latest developement for our HTC Flyer. All the credit goes to Drew Garen for his nice work on the device. With the funds we rose all together, we got Drew Garen a Flyer to help us developing ICS AOSP. I hope he will enjoy the Flyer as we all do.
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Amazing, thanks for this work and good luck
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First off thank you for your efforts and good luck in continued work on this.
I am not sure it is fair to call this a beta, at this stage it is more like a pre alpha. It boots, as mentioned no wifi, the graphical glitches make it unusable for more than a couple minutes, scrolling is similar to the ice cream panini rom. The weird rotation bug on dexters work seems corrected here. Can not comment on many other features as i am a wifi only user and the graphical glitches make it pretty difficult to actual navigate through the device. Encouraging to see it boot but this is definitely a WIP
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Yes. Thanks to Drew.
I agree that this is more like a pre alpha. It seems to have the same issues as the Chaosz-x rom except that we need not manually enter a command to get the touchscreen working. Hopefully one of the other kernels solves the problems.
Very much looking forward to this.
Any chance we'll see any bits and pieces from CM9 make their way into this?
Nice, thx for sharing
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Very much looking forward to this.
Any chance we'll see any bits and pieces from CM9 make their way into this?
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im sure that as soon drew is finished with this, there will be both unofficial CM9 builds and KANG builds of this and if not i will learn how to build and make a KANG build, if it's not to difficult
Very cool, hoping he can share some of his work with the other devs and vice/versa and maybe well have a full AOSP, and hopefully a sense 4.0, port in the near future!
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Very cool, hoping he can share some of his work with the other devs and vice/versa and maybe well have a full AOSP, and hopefully a sense 4.0, port in the near future!
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there is a sense 4.0 port that works pretty well and is moving allong
i agree, hopefully dev collab will ensue and bring us even closer to the full potential of this device hoping we see a working kernel 3.0 as well
I am currently working on many different kernels that fix wifi, bluetooth and graphic errors. These are the main issues in the rom. When I get these fixed everything should work out fine. I called it a beta because well right now it's as good as it's gets. I'm working on many different builds as well including AOSP, and CM9. Many things will be worked on and will be fixed over the next couple weeks.
Any donations are helpful and all info can be found at my site drewgaren.com
keep it up..
and have a drink on me. (8KD98796NY643381N)
Damn it! I just got my Flyer set up the way I like it after flashing every Rom out there. I guess I can try another.
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thank you for sharing this is great .. but I prefer a rom with sense. It would be great if you work together on port of sense 4.
I have been looking through the forum trying out a few At&t Galaxy Note ROMs but i haven't tried an AOSP or CM9 ROM and I was wondering if anyone could show me the best one for the At&t Galaxy Note(battery life, customization, stability, everything working, MUST have a GREAT equalizer, and being lag free.):fingers-crossed:
really the bet one is what works for you - each of us have different standards and things we look for in a ROM - best bet is to try it yourself - takes less than 5 minutes to try out a ROM - start in the development thread
I've used Flapjaxx, Perfection and am now currently running AOCP - all worked great for me - some pluses and minuses on each one
but i could see using any of these as my daily driver
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I have been looking through the forum trying out a few At&t Galaxy Note ROMs but i haven't tried an AOSP or CM9 ROM and I was wondering if anyone could show me the best one for the At&t Galaxy Note(battery life, customization, stability, everything working, MUST have a GREAT equalizer, and being lag free.):fingers-crossed:
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I can only say what i recommend as my daily driver is fj's stock by att carrier with h0tw1r3's oc kernel r2.. It is awesome fast. I tried aosp, cm9, hybrid, paranoid, but after all that i missed having spen. I don't use the pen much but when i do its at pretty crucial times. Im going to flash cm9 official right now to try it out but most likely won't keep it. So i advise try few roms for yourself.
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I have tried several CM9, AOSP, AOKP and Stock based ROMS. All of them have their merits and I give props to all the Devs who worked hard to make them.
But after trying at least one of each, my personal fav is JamieD's Paranoid Android ROM.
Great on battery, very very stable hybrid tablet interface.
Each ROM provides a different experience for everybody that uses it. The only way to find a "best ROM" is to try them all for yourself and see what is best for you. Anything that anybody tells you otherwise is wrong, as it is a matter of opinion.
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Each ROM provides a different experience for everybody that uses it. The only way to find a "best ROM" is to try them all for yourself and see what is best for you. Anything that anybody tells you otherwise is wrong, as it is a matter of opinion.
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but i kid
Solid words, i've personally poked around on FJ's line of stock roms, team perfection's objection, seraphim-mesosphere-remix, and official cm9, until i switched to cm9, i had always been switching back to fj's roms because of s-pen gestures, but i switched to the official cm9 nightlies and have been making due, all it takes is some back-up apps (if you have data to back up, things like titanium backup and mybackup or your preference [merely said those, because i use them]) and mess around, play with your phone, always good to have a full charge before you flash but not imperitive, and always remember when you switch between roms, make sure you wipe with double ply :3
Personally loving fjs latest build but i really liked the hotwires build and cm9 have the nfc tagging for themes... I didn't get to test it out but that stuff is pretty cool. Just my opinion.
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Cm9. Like getting out of a ford fiesta and into a 7 series BMW.
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I've been running Dagr8s King Kang and I will sing praises about that rom. I can't stand any stock based Rom, although I do wish I could use all the nice spen apps.
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Official CM9 nightly has been the most stable for me so far, and it's very fast. The only thing I can complain about is home screen swiping lags a bit, and when long-pressing a home screen icon to move or delete it, if you have a lot of icons on the screen, this lags a LOT. Does not happen with different launchers. So far every launcher I have tried has something I don't like about it. The silkiest smoothest launcher I've used is sslauncher in The Collective's CP1 ROM. That whole ROM is very buttery smooth and I love its different style. I was very tempted to go back to that ROM from CM9, but so far CM9 has proven more reliable for me. This could just be ME though, as I've only been playing around with this for a couple days. A week ago, I was totally clueless about how to root a phone, how to use Odin/download mode/recovery, or even what any of that meant!
I think when we see these guys stress WIPE WIPE WIPE, it really does matter. I've taken the habit of wiping anything and everything I can, multiple times, before trying a new ROM. This has given me best results so far. I just keep my important stuff backed up on my computer, and I reinstall my apps manually. Not really a big deal, since I often find when reinstalling them, there are a bunch I had installed that I don't really want anymore anyway.
So, what is the BEST?
- If you want the stock ICS experience -> you can find 100% stock ROMs floating around for various carriers.
- If you want the stock experience but don't want the bloat -> XDA has delivered on this front too, there are a few variations of stock ICS with bloat removed, and a few simple really helpful things installed but no heavy customization.
- If you want the highest performance and customization -> The Collective - AoCP - CP1, CM9, Paranoid Android
Just compare the download size of the stock ROMs to the download size of the faster ones and you'll see!
I'm still a noob at this, so everything I said could be totally wack.
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There is no best ROM for a individual users, its down to personal needs. I suggest you take your time and read the threads and make your own decision. This sort of thread never goes well, so i close it.
For those of you considering whether to put CM9 or CM10 on your HP Touchpad, or those considering upgrading to CM10:
Left CM10, Right CM9
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Advantages of CM9:
-Stable
-Smooth
-Small weekly CyanogenMod updates
-Much higher Anututu score
Advantages of CM10
-Actively be part of the development community by sharing results with the devs JCScullins & Dorreguay who work hard in porting
-Google Now works perfectly
For one, CM10 is much more buggy. It's also very choppy, considering its running 'Project Butter'. Transitions between windows and apps isn't nearly as smooth as the CM9 build. Overall, CM9 is a much better experience on the HP Touchpad, and if you are not willing to put up with the hindrances of CM10, stick to CM9 until a stable-ler alpha release of CM10 hits XDA. In my opinion, Ice Cream Sandwich is better then Jelly Bean. I feel like Jelly Bean is going in the reverse direction, and Google is not thinking about the approach, "Why fix something' that ain't broke".
An example, when opening a link in an email, you get the option on which application/browser to open the link in. In ICS, you can click the app in the list that pops up, and boom! you're there. In JB, you have to click the app, and then click again to open the app. One might say, why don't you select "Always" such that you never see that prompt... well... my reason is the next point:
I like choosing! I like being able to open a link in Firefox over Chrome if the webpage im going to happens to work better in one over the other. Also, flash is the worst possible experience you can have in CM10 for the Touchpad. Browsers all handle embedded videos differently, and you will find yourself fighting with your tablet to get a simple video running, even if it's an embedded YouTube. It sometimes isn't straight forward to launch the video in the native YouTube application.
Well, if you guys have any questions for me, feel free to ask, as I have two Touchpads (gf uses the CM9 one), and have been using CM9 and CM10 consecutively. I wish to thank all devs in making the Android on the Touchpad a challenging and fun experience! If you only have a Touchpad as your main reason for coming to XDA, be thankful, as some devices aren't as clear cut as the community here in the Touchpad section. (The Wildfire S device I have is a complete nightmare)
Cheers for now!
Edit: With jelly bean 4.2.2 (CM10.1), Google seemed to fix the above-mentioned gripe with choosing the appropriate app to open the item. CM10.1 is fantastic, and certainly worth the upgrade. Most 10.1 ROMs work fine, minus the fact that Bluetooth does not work at all. If you rely on Bluetooth connections with your Touchpad, wait until this issue is fixed, before diving into 4.2.2.
I've been using CM9 as my daily driver for a while now. I've tried CM10 ROMs but always end up going back to CM9 as it just seems more stable. I don't really see any reasons for me to upgrade to JB at the moment. I appreciate the work devs are doing to port CM10 to the Touchpad.
Mmm,
1. Which picture is CM10!
2. Man, I looked for battery life, before installing jscullins...
3. It will be great if u did a video, to see the smoothness of both
Thanks
stayfidz said:
1. Which picture is CM10!
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BuffMcBigHuge said:
Left CM10, Right CM9
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Labeled in the OP.
1. ok, coz i get 5637 under jscullins's rom, near galaxy 2
2. My TP is overcloacked.
Mine is too, at 1.7Ghz. Please explain how yours is at such a higher score.
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Definitely appreciate the Devs for trying to port CM10 to H-pads. Hope they continue to get it fully worked out.
I've tried all the CM10 roms, but end up going back to CM9 mainly for stability.
Keep up the great works!
BuffMcBigHuge, since you have 2 Pads, what do you think about battery life on CM9?
Maybe you didn't install all patches for CM10, or your background services hindered the test.
i only see 1 picture
oops nevermind. i didn't notice the scroll bar under the text
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BuffMcBigHuge, since you have 2 Pads, what do you think about battery life on CM9?
Maybe you didn't install all patches for CM10, or your background services hindered the test.
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Cm10 battery is fantastic. Ill post CM9 tomorrow. however not entirely sure why my wifi randomly turned on while the screen was off.
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I've had both the Targus case and an iPad 1 case just like you, and always seem to come back to the official HP case. I like how slim it is compared to the others.
BTW, Nice work comparing ICS and JB.
Flash support in ICS means I always come back to it, not having it in JB really is a downside. I've been wondering what features JB really offers as an advantage over ICS other than maybe a bit more of a polished look. Anyone?
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BuffMcBigHuge, nice to hear it,
2. Sure CM9 is stable, but you don't get the butter
3. Jscullins has some hick-ups but fine with it, since i'm just for reading on it
3. galaxy s2 LTE uses the snapdragon 3 version, the score is near the Tab10 too
4. I wish for a final CM10.
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I've had both the Targus case and an iPad 1 case just like you, and always seem to come back to the official HP case. I like how slim it is compared to the others.
BTW, Nice work comparing ICS and JB.
Flash support in ICS means I always come back to it, not having it in JB really is a downside. I've been wondering what features JB really offers as an advantage over ICS other than maybe a bit more of a polished look. Anyone?
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You can get Flash on JB through the Adobe site link below, though I'm curious what you need it for, don't have it on my phone and have never needed it for anything.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4675670
My wife likes to watch video recipes on marthastewart.com, (lol) which as you can guess still requires flash. The performance in CM10 is so poor that it is nearly impossible to get to the video after all the advertisements. Leaves me wondering why it works 100% on my phone, with the same chip set.
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My wife likes to watch video recipes on marthastewart.com, (lol) which as you can guess still requires flash. The performance in CM10 is so poor that it is nearly impossible to get to the video after all the advertisements. Leaves me wondering why it works 100% on my phone, with the same chip set.
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Yes, flash is horrible on CM10. The flash area flickers (was going to say flashes, but that would sound wierd lol), and there are heavy graphical artifacts and bugs that tend to show stretching and skewing of the screen.
When HMTL5 takes over several flash videos, the experience isn't any better. For your wife, I would suggest backing up your apps with Titanium Backup, and then flashing CM9. My gf's touchpad uses CM9, and she hates using mine due to the issues with flash.
CM9 battery life. Not many stats due to the battery profile not running on CM9. Here, standby of 13 hours and slight usage caused a 15% battery drop, which is not bad at all.
thanks for the information
Thanks for all the info. I will stick with CM 9 for now and wait for CM10 to be more stable.
i got 4265 on my cm10 touchpad, not overclocked.
I have the jscullins's cm10 rom. It seems pretty stable. Chrome does not function very well but I just use another browser. I just like the layout with cm10 better.
I am running Schizoid's CM10 AIO and it's running pretty well, some applications have issues, but apparently recent updates have fixed them. Probably means I should update soon. Either way it's starting to feel like it's getting closer to a daily driver.