Ok guys, sorry to post this here but there's no where else right now.
I am so excited about the Xperia S, it isn't funny!! The dual core processor and 1gb internal memory is huge and just what this phone needs!
Who else is excited about this phone, what could be the pros and cons against the Arc?
Let me know what you think,
CheerS D
Not really excited.
Look at the "old" SGS II or newer Galaxy Note. They should beat the Xperia S. And no, I'm not a Sammy fanboy.
Dualcore, 1GB RAM. Xperia S isn't new.
Cons:
No sd card slot
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Another cons:
Design and price. Haha
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Another cons:
Design and price. Haha
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Price is totally a pro and not a con.
Imo cons are:
No sd card slot
non removeable battery
not as sexy as the Arc (couldn't be possible )
Pros:
Everything else.
dp94 said:
Price is totally a pro and not a con.
Imo cons are:
No sd card slot
non removeable battery
not as sexy as the Arc (couldn't be possible )
Pros:
Everything else.
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but he asked with the comparison to arc. So arc definitely wins in term of price.
Xperia S over arc:
- Higher resolution screen.
- Supposedly better camera + 1080p video.
- Dual-core processor.
- Big RAM.
- 32 GB internal memory.
- Design has that "wow" factor especially with that transparent glass in the middle and 3 LED lights in it.
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Xperia arc over S:
- Lighter.
- Thinner.
- More affordable.
- MicroSD card slot.
Things that matter me the most are the processor and high screen resolution. Mind you, I watch 4-5 hours of HD (720p/1080p) video content on my phone every day and not having to reencode them would be very helpful, so your needs will differ.
Flo95 said:
Not really excited.
Look at the "old" SGS II or newer Galaxy Note. They should beat the Xperia S. And no, I'm not a Sammy fanboy.
Dualcore, 1GB RAM. Xperia S isn't new.
Cons:
No sd card slot
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I'd get the SGS II if it's not running TouchWiz. Currently I'm thinking of getting a Galaxy Nexus. Upgrading to Xperia S would yield me an equal-sized screen and Xperia ion's out of reach (since it's US only).
quite disappointed when heard that Xperia S has no microSD slot and changeable battery. i will hold my arc until another model moves me
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Ok guys, sorry to post this here but there's no where else right now.
I am so excited about the Xperia S, it isn't funny!! The dual core processor and 1gb internal memory is huge and just what this phone needs!
Who else is excited about this phone, what could be the pros and cons against the Arc?
Let me know what you think,
CheerS D
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upto 1.8GB for App Storage,
32GB Internal memory via eMM
people keep getting this wrong and before you ask how i know i used the phone at CES and its also plastered across the white paper available from the SE Dev World.
The Phone is great and i cant wait to get my own as soon as my rep drops its off.
Why can't they just improve the battery .... Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX has 3300 mAh battery without affecting the size of the device ... I really wish Xperia S had that battery
Xperia S
-Bravia Engine
-4.3" 720x 1280(342ppi) Reality Display
-1.5Ghz Dual-core
-Adreno 220 GPU
-1GB Ram
-1.8GB Internal Memory(User Available)
-32GB eMMC(Embedded Memory)
-12MP Exmor-R with 1080p Video and Fast Capture
-1.3MP Front Camera with 720p Video
-Anti Stain Shell(Dirt Repellent and UV Active)
-Fast Charge Capability(Pro's of non replaceable battery)
-NFC, GLONASS, WIFI Direct, Gyro
-Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
-PlayStation Certified(It's getting some Traction now lots of PS1 Games and some PSP Games Available)
-Price is just Right
- Design has that "wow" factor especially with that transparent glass in the middle and 3 LED lights in it.
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What stopping you from buying an Xperia S? No Micro SD card slot and a Replaceable Battery?
but for me I think that 32GB is Big enough for me, including the 1.8GB for the Apps to be installed, My Arc got 16GB and I have lots of HD Games and 720p Video's I still have 3GB free
and having a non replaceable battery is not all Cons
I rarely remove my Battery and Micro SD Card, the only time I removed the Battery and Micro SD Card when i upgraded it to 16GB and Inserted my SIM
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I'd get the SGS II if it's not running TouchWiz. Currently I'm thinking of getting a Galaxy Nexus. Upgrading to Xperia S would yield me an equal-sized screen and Xperia ion's out of reach (since it's US only).
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Stay with the Arc and make your ROM even better (if that's even possible ^^)
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i was planning to change my SE Xperia X8 with an SE Xperia Arc S, which is 300€ here in Portugal, but now i'm waiting for the Sony Xperia S
anyone knows how much it will cost? More or less? Estimative?
Sorry for my bad English
Here you can preorder it for 449€
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Hi guys thanks for your replies, by the way, in a girl
I am mostly excited for the internal memory upgrade, better battery and dual core processors. In all honesty my arc is laggy at times, the battery only lasts a day, and I'm tired of no front facing camera. These were the things that excited me the most, the design is nice too. Don't get me wrong I do love my arc, it just seems to be slow at times, I have no idea how to use custom roms for it either
When the device hangs and not restart itself.. i open the battery, if this happens to xperia s how to?
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When the device hangs and not restart itself.. i open the battery, if this happens to xperia s how to?
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There'll be another method to do this.
Maybe a long press power button, maybe something else.
I'll probably wait for the performance of Arc when it runs official ICS. If it's good enough for me then I guess I'll have to skip xperia s and stick with arc for a little longer until SE releases quad core and renew my data contact.
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i was planning to change my SE Xperia X8 with an SE Xperia Arc S, which is 300€ here in Portugal, but now i'm waiting for the Sony Xperia S
anyone knows how much it will cost? More or less? Estimative?
Sorry for my bad English
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a TMN já anunciou que o vai vender, 460€
Very texture of a phone!!
Price also can accept the~
Micro-SIM is much worse than no card slot for me. Now sony is copying iphone pathetic there is no excuse for having micro-sim and non replaceable battery in a relatively thick phone.
Infact given the thickness of this phone there should have been bigger battery as well.
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Highlighted features:
* 1 GHz STE U8500 Dual Core Processor.
* ARM® Mali™ 400 GPU and NEON®CPU extensions.
* Networks: Quad EDGE/GSM/GPRS 850, 900, 1800, 1900; W-CDMA Band I, II, V and VIII.
* Support for floating touch™ technology.
* Launched with Google™ Android™ 2.3 (Gingerbread), upgraded to Android™ 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) during the second quarter of 2012.
* 8 GB (up to 5 GB user-accessible memory) internal phone storage.
* 512 MB RAM.
* microSD™ card, up to 32 GB.
* 5 MP Camera resolution.
* 16x digital zoom.
* 720p HD video recording.
* Supports NFC.
* Includes 3D surround sound.
* Includes Reality Display with Mobile BRAVIA® Engine.
* Supports Bluetooth™.
* DLNA Certified®.
* Support GPS.
Installed apps & services:
* PlayNow™ service*.
* TrackID™ music recognition*.
* Facebook inside Xperia™.
* Sony Entertainment Network*.
* Sony channel in Play Shop*.
Xperia™ sola - Get entertained with a sense of magic
Xperia™ sola with floating touch
Xperia™ sola unboxing video (via Xperia Blog)
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/13/2867059/sony-xperia-sola-launch-specs-features-android-nfc
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Way too expensive. For the same money you can buy a Neo with a better camera. It's ugly too, the only thing I like about it is the floating touch.
Why Sony didn't upgrade the RAM, it's been a pain for the previous gen Xperias. They should have made it at least 700+MB or 1GB.
And is that a raised display?
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Rycon33 said:
Why Sony didn't upgrade the RAM, it's been a pain for the previous gen Xperias. They should have made it at least 700+MB or 1GB.
And is that a raised display?
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Probably you should never expect more than 512 MB Ram from mid-range phone.
The specs looks good to me being in the mid-range, except the front facing camera (cant find it any specs) and finally there is a microSD slot.
Actually really like the design.
Downfalls not enough RAM, duel core not quad core, screen is slightly too small now that im used to the arcs 4.2".
Not actually sure if quad matters that much to me at the moment, but as they are out (or coming) might as well get one.
If this is cheap enough i might get a sim free version.
i wonder how this chipset compares to the arc's snapdragon
I like the floating tocuh! good job Sony nice designed phone
who the heck even needs quad core? when have you ever seen any apps use dual core let alone quad? its a phone not a pc.
Rycon33 said:
Why Sony didn't upgrade the RAM, it's been a pain for the previous gen Xperias. They should have made it at least 700+MB or 1GB.
And is that a raised display?
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If they haven't upgraded the RAM, I won't upgrade my phone too.
I am only considering the Xperia P, but it doesn't have a better camera unfortunately. The price is quite high too, it's not much lower than the Xperia S price, but I don't want such a big screen.
can't say it's ugly... but like Xperia S better!
You are a spoiled owners of a flagship phone...as I am too)))) This is the mid-range smartphone and it is magnificent! 512 ram? Who need more??? Years ago I had Celeron with 512ram and windows 7 was running great! It is the question of optimizing apps and firmware... Design? Look at the Nokia... They are realy realy ugly, they are no phones at all - crap! HTC is good,realy good. but I am not a fan of it. I like Sony and this phone is a good job! I will never change my White LT18 on it, but he is the best for me in the mid range!
If this phone came with a 4.2" 720p display and an 8mp camera Id go out and get it on launch day. Love that raised display.
Better design than the xperia s IMO
Hey everybody !
Is anybody know what is Floating Touch ?
... I mean, do you know if it's special hardware or if it's just a software customization ?
Technically, for devs, can they move the Floating Touch on other phones like Xperia S ? Or it's hardware, a special screen glass ???
Thank you
Our lovely developer they can make happen to our Arc i hope so i like it so much ....
No secondary camera???? Y Sony does something like this always?? What is d problem in providing a secondary camera?
raphael.xda said:
Hey everybody !
Is anybody know what is Floating Touch ?
... I mean, do you know if it's special hardware or if it's just a software customization ?
Technically, for devs, can they move the Floating Touch on other phones like Xperia S ? Or it's hardware, a special screen glass ???
Thank you
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This new technology is called "floating touch," and it allows a user to hover their finger over the display to move what is akin to an invisible mouse cursor and then merely tap the screen once the desired link is highlighted
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Floating Touch is Hardware or sofware technology ? Question for devs or people who know what I mean
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Floating Touch is Hardware or sofware technology ? Question for devs or people who know what I mean
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Hardware and software.
You can't have it on a regular screen.
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Floating Touch is Hardware or sofware technology ? Question for devs or people who know what I mean
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i'm sure it's hardware. if it's software, we arc owners should have receive the update too.
Apparently, it is only stated that they are specifically designed for Japanese market. Not sure about whether it will be release internationally with different design (Xperia S for example). Well, if it is the same design as these pictures below, I would be disappointed. Looks much uglier than S and Ion (Though GX has the convex back like Arc and SX front looks somehow resemble to iPhone 4).
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Key features for Xperia GX
131 × 69 × 8.6mm
4.6” Reality Display powered by Mobile BRAVIA Engine for razor-sharp
clarity.
1.5GHz dual-core processor for faster performance.
16GB internal flash storage.
13MP camera with Sony Exmor R for mobile, HD video recording, and Sony
technology to take 3D panoramic images.
Launching on Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich.
Available in white and black.
Key features for Xperia SX
115 × 54 × 9.4mm
World’s lightest LTE smartphone, weighing only 95g.
3.7” Reality Display with Mobile BRAVIA Engine.
1.5GHz dual-core processor for faster performance.
8GB internal flash storage.
8MP camera with Sony Exmor R for mobile, HD video recording, and Sony
technology to take 3D panoramic images.
Japanese specific features such as infrared port data exchange, mobile
wallet and mobile TV.
Launching on Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich.
Available in black and white
For more info, check this
The GX seems like a minor upgrade for the S. Wonder why GX and SX and not the other way around... Anyway, I'm waiting for ARMv8 phones now
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The GX seems like a minor upgrade for the S. Wonder why GX and SX and not the other way around... Anyway, I'm waiting for ARMv8 phones now
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Not really minor, Qualcomm S3 of XPS is nothing compared to other dual-core, but Qualcomm S4 is the king of dual-core right now
The screen size is also larger with very marginal increase in size (128mm -> 131mm in height)
So there's no any news about the SD card slot?cause If it has like SD card slot that'd be epic..
haha what minor update??seriously then why does it score alot better than tegra 3? that's funny.
GX just made me wow, effin' love it
hope it sees international release sometime soon, I'm really looking an xperia device to replace my old X10
****inn ****!! The ugly's level is over 9000!!!!!!!!
they all look pretty ugly to be honest. I don't think the picture is real tho.
pictures are real, they are same as the one post on sony japan website
Hmmm...
Well Okay...
To me, the upgrade isn't that much comparing what you sacrifice in design. If those are the final devices (yea, I know, I say this a lot between the other threads) Sony seems to have ditched the design factor and the light bar.
I'm glad the GX has the Arc curve though, so the Arc people will be happy. It just doesn't do anything more than that design-wise in my opinion.
It's a bit of a bummer that they dropped the light bar, and are going down the generic form path :/.
It's what I thought though, the GX does indeed appear to be the S with an upgraded core, so the deciding factor would really be design (S) or if you are a spec-junkie the S4 (GX). Yes, the screen is larger, but it has onscreen buttons, so you lose screen real-estate.
All in all, I'm keeping my S for two years . I am curious to see what next year will bring.
Final thought (or just something I forgot to add ):
I wonder if it has a card slot in it, because that is quite small if it's not expandable, which would be another big deciding factor.
Xperia GX
I think the GX is way sexier than the Xperia S & thinner well most of the phone is. I so hope this is released in the Uk, but only if the battery is as least 2000 mAH
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It's a bit of a bummer that they dropped the light bar, and are going down the generic form path :/.
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Well, at that size you just do not have that many options. If they add the bar, already long phone will get even longer.
But it is a shame anyway. They could at least "fake" something resembling the light bar, not necessary transparent, as it would be great notification light. Something most phones nowadays are sorely missing.
I just hope, that this is not the real "hayabusa".
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Well, at that size you just do not have that many options. If they add the bar, already long phone will get even longer.
But it is a shame anyway. They could at least "fake" something resembling the light bar, not necessary transparent, as it would be great notification light. Something most phones nowadays are sorely missing.
I just hope, that this is not the real "hayabusa".
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It's the real thing, but it's likely not intended for a worldwide release. There will be something else for us.
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This is a bit of an afterthought, as I am just looking through that pdf now.
I thought it was just the picture, but the SX has a rather large space between the earpiece and the screen, giving it a very long effect. Kinda like the old pre-smartphone candybar phones.
Maybe it was the last little SE thing before they were taken over, to launch the S and such with the light bar. But on these devices it's like they were designed when the creative department was on vacation :/.
Even the Sola (which I thought was launched as a new tech gimmick) had a sort of light bar to it and I felt was better designed.
The GX and SX are nice devices, but I wouldn't consider them flagships like some people are saying, they seem to be rushed to me, I don't know...
The big upper bezel in the SX is only because of the Japan-specific features. They have to put the TV antenna and IR blaster somewhere now don't they
The GX is perfect for an international release. No Japan-specific features, no carrier branding so far. The only thing they'd have to change is the modem, and that is just a slightly different SoC. I highly suspect the GX to be released near the end of the summer in EMEA. The US can f* off, they get enough nice exclusive phones already anyway
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The big upper bezel in the SX is only because of the Japan-specific features. They have to put the TV antenna and IR blaster somewhere now don't they
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That light strip would be perfect candidate for both, it just needs to be located on top
The GX is perfect for an international release. No Japan-specific features, no carrier branding so far. The only thing they'd have to change is the modem, and that is just a slightly different SoC. I highly suspect the GX to be released near the end of the summer in EMEA. The US can f* off, they get enough nice exclusive phones already anyway
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If rumours about 1750mAh are true, then I am afraid it is dead for me. And probably to many others outside of japan.
Even if it has replaceable battery.
I was really hoping to see just an updated Xperia S
I love the design of XS, these new ones, they does'nt look premium or even a little bit special
Sony has to learn that 3 models per year is just right
A high-end, mid-end, low-end and at the max, a new Xperia Play
all other techs developped during the year must wait to the next's years flagship device.
I'll probably stay with my Arc for a year or 2
waiting for a not too big phone, quad-core, better battery life, and why not, the same technology used with the Xperia Active?
Woo, I'm glad I have an Xperia S. Those things are butt-ugly.
Seriously Sony? Get rid of Ericsson and release one of the dopest looking phones on the market - only to release some of the ugliest phones right after?
This does not bode well.
silversun92 said:
Not really minor, Qualcomm S3 of XPS is nothing compared to other dual-core, but Qualcomm S4 is the king of dual-core right now
The screen size is also larger with very marginal increase in size (128mm -> 131mm in height)
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I think its pretty minor. The only thing the krait does better are benchmarks. The S is already really fast, but it could have better memory latency and bandwidth which the GX does have. The S never has lag in my opinion and unless you want a bigger epeen, you really don't need the new core for most tasks. I do like the look of the new casing alot, it is how the Xperia S should have been made. I am not a fan of the arc design though and the screen is too damn big. 4.3 is perfect.
The idea that the gx will come packed with an s4 processor is right now, just pure speculation.
There would be no phones released this year by Sony with radically different hardware from either the s or the ion.
To do that would be to diminish and even you could argue make a mockery of the term flagship.
They cannot release a new flagship barely 5 months after the launch of the s.
I know it was disappointing to see the S launched with the s3 but I'm afraid Sony users will just have to make do with that this year.
Sony always cheap out on processors. They did it last year with the arc and it's the same story now.
I don't know maybe they do it to stay competitive on pricing or to just keep the price down considering the 12mp camera on board.
Don't forget that the recommended retail price for the xperia s is £460 as compared to the one x which is £480.
The fact you can find the S for much less is due to the fact the big retailers have refused that price because of the great difficulties they had selling the hopeless phones Sony Ericsson released last year.
So you could say, the S is having to clean up the mess left behind by all those competitively weak devices released last year.
Dual core made more of an impression last year than quad core will make this year because android really need multi threading. After two two cores, anything else is just a bonus but not essential.
By that, releasing single core phones last year was just plain ridiculous.
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The idea that the gx will come packed with an s4 processor is right now, just pure speculation.
There would be no phones released this year by Sony with radically different hardware from either the s or the ion.
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Well, there is one fairly significant difference: the LTE.
The only way to go with S3 would be to integrate some "external" 3rd party solution, like some "early birds" from HTC or Samsung did.
Which would be a huge undertaking with their share of problems. And I doubt such small device as SX would be doable at all. This is before we even consider such things as battery life.
Similarly, ST-Ericsson NovaThors with LTE won't be available until 2013.
To do that would be to diminish and even you could argue make a mockery of the term flagship.
They cannot release a new flagship barely 5 months after the launch of the s.
I know it was disappointing to see the S launched with the s3 but I'm afraid Sony users will just have to make do with that this year.
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I have an impression, the Xperia S was rushed emergency release. Just to have something to sell *now*, and not a part of normal development pipeline. If so, the xs will be pushed to background as soon as real flagships are ready.
I'm opening up this thread to continue a discussion that started in another thread, to try to keep that thread a bit more on topic. Feel free to discuss how you think your phone is better than another phone, or whatever else. Just continue keeping it a nice and friendly discussion. Thanks a lot everyone!
Edit:
I moved this post to the OP spot, apologies to Pandemic for having you as the OP.
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Pandemic said:
I beat my friends thier phone (one of the newest, like galaxy note and htc desire) against my Neo V stock official 587 supercharged and modified in all opinions (browsing, loading, scrolling and all that stuff) , they are shocked hahaha xD
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Desire, ok agreed. But note???
What kind of sorcery is this???
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Desire, ok agreed. But note???
What kind of sorcery is this???
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Yes indeed and i dont know of his note but he get a bucnh of crap on it a saw, further i dont know mate, its strange but what can i do about it.
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Desire, ok agreed. But note???
What kind of sorcery is this???
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ok. but at 1.4 ghz dual core, touchwiz sh*ts in its pants and works smooth.
what crap had he loaded on it???
coz i have a bunch noob friends with the note with lots of crap.
My phone beats none
I also don't think it's possible. Galaxy S2 even beats the Xperia S
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ok. but at 1.4 ghz dual core, touchwiz sh*ts in its pants and works smooth.
what crap had he loaded on it???
coz i have a bunch noob friends with the note with lots of crap.
My phone beats none
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Hahaha yeah i dont know mate, i thought its not possible but i will do another test with him soon, i dont know about the crap becaise its alot, but his galaxy note is not what it must be, almost dead i think.
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I beat a guy on stock Optimus 2x with lots of crap today with cm9.1 on mine. That's fair play ( I think ) as that thing has twice our processing power. Let's see if I can beat any other dual core...
P.S. Believe it or not, I've never lost to any single core device. Ever.
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If I may ask. When you people say I beat that and that device. How did you actually beat it, in what way?
Just general responsiveness. Lags in games ( or should I say the lack of it?) I never do benchmarks as I think they are useless to test the phone as a whole. They just test raw processing power.
And against people who want to go specs wise, I just say. No thanks.
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Just general responsiveness. Lags in games ( or should I say the lack of it?) I never do benchmarks as I think they are useless to test the phone as a whole. They just test raw processing power.
And against people who want to go specs wise, I just say. No thanks.
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Actually you picked model which is raw power but bad at being fluid.
Launcher which is used on Optimus 2X is badly made, and it lags by default At least it was on GB, don't know how it's on ICS(if O2X even got ICS)
Kinda same story as launcher on Sony ICS, it is ****, at least in builds before .587, but even in 587 it's not as good as on GB.
Also, you can't compare 2 phones, one on stock, other on custom rom with performance modifications.
Another thing, O2X is on tegra2 SoC, its kinda hard to believe that games were more fast on Neo. as tegra eats games for breakfast but ok if you say so
Sorry, don't want to be downer but put both phones on stock and then compare them.
Also Pandemic told that his phone beat Galaxy Note. I guess he forgot that note have "a bit" larger screen with "a bit" larger resolution. You can't compare car's and trucks.
On big screen and big resolution add that note maybe had some more apps on it.. and nothing strange that he beat him on scrolling and loading pages. Put that kind of screen on Neo and watch him breathing like dying..
For example, 1GHz with 3.5"screen and 1GHz_dual core with 4"screen, nothing strange if you see that both phones have similar result in some graphic tests
Another thing, some phones are just badly made, like htc sensation, it has good spec's but it's badly at usage, don't know how is in benchmarks(actually if I remember correct, it was also pretty bad in tests), but usage is bad.
We all went a bit off topic here, maybe slicing some posts into another thread would be ok..
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I'm opening up this thread to continue a discussion that started in another thread, to try to keep that thread a bit more on topic. Feel free to discuss how you think your phone is better than another phone, or whatever else. Just continue keeping it a nice and friendly discussion. Thanks a lot everyone!
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General chat thread gone off-topic. We have just gone full meta.
I don't mind a new thread though.
The last few weeks I was seriously considering buying a new phone in about 3 months, but I just realized that this phone isn't too bad on Jelly Bean. Every normal app works fine (except for the crappy built Google Maps). Gaming was never smooth, just puzzle games is enough.
Actually this phone is still better than many new midrange phone.
For example take the HTC One V. Same CPU, lower ppi screen, same android version (actually lower (4.0.3 vs 4.0.4), camera is far worse, only build quality (alu-unibody) is better. This phone is €250 currently. I paid less than €350 for my neo. If I take a look at the pricewatch, the Neo was €250 exactly a year ago. Conclusion: the phone would still be good value for money. I'm pretty sure our camera beats the crappy shooter on the €600 HTC One X+.
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I've also realized I don't have an alternative to choose from. Name a phone with 4" or smaller screen with at least 250 ppi, fast cpu, good camera and expandable storage.
I agree @Madfysh,
But you see, I know people in school etc. who keep giving me s**t about how their phone is better than mine. And after tons of ignoring it, knowing it's no use trying to compare phones, you just have to tell them to STFU. That's when, I take part in these "competitions." And knowing its unfair, I happily give them "in your face b**ch" with custom ROMS.
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@sdk, Xperia sola perhaps. And since s3 launched, the s2 is quite coming into the same price range now.
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Right?! No one meant any harm, but this should have it's own thread
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For example, 1GHz with 3.5"screen and 1GHz_dual core with 4"screen, nothing strange if you see that both phones have similar result in some graphic tests
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this is wrong mate,inches of the screen really doesn't matter at all when it comes to performance.What matters is resolution.If 4" screen have a higher resolution and if the same processor and ram then 3.5" one will perform better than 4"
Agree with the whole other part of the post tho
sdk16420 said:
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I don't mind a new thread though.
The last few weeks I was seriously considering buying a new phone in about 3 months, but I just realized that this phone isn't too bad on Jelly Bean. Every normal app works fine (except for the crappy built Google Maps). Gaming was never smooth, just puzzle games is enough.
Actually this phone is still better than many new midrange phone.
For example take the HTC One V. Same CPU, lower ppi screen, same android version (actually lower (4.0.3 vs 4.0.4), camera is far worse, only build quality (alu-unibody) is better. This phone is €250 currently. I paid less than €350 for my neo. If I take a look at the pricewatch, the Neo was €250 exactly a year ago. Conclusion: the phone would still be good value for money. I'm pretty sure our camera beats the crappy shooter on the €600 HTC One X+.
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I've also realized I don't have an alternative to choose from. Name a phone with 4" or smaller screen with at least 250 ppi, fast cpu, good camera and expandable storage.
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Agree,comparing 2011 xperia mid range(Neo,V,Ray) to today midrange devices there are some downsides with each mid range devices.If I want to upgrade from my Neo to a decent midrange device then in xperia range only thing that comes to my mind is Xperia P but then the huge no comes with 16GB memory :/ This is just an one example.
Anyway on topic well my neo does everything I need it to do and just love the blue gradient color so far only downside I see with neo is 512mb ram.
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this is wrong mate,inches of the screen really doesn't matter at all when it comes to performance.What matters is resolution.If 4" screen have a higher resolution and if the same processor and ram then 3.5" one will perform better than 4"
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Hands were faster than brain
Actually thats what I mean
I was looking at o2x screen size and galaxy note resolution so made a mistake..
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Hands were faster than brain
Actually thats what I mean
I was looking at o2x screen size and galaxy note resolution so made a mistake..
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Yes and the eyes are to slow
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Anyway on topic well my neo does everything I need it to do and just love the blue gradient color so far only downside I see with neo is 512mb ram.
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same here with some mods i got it to be quite fast and it does the things i use it nicely. if only it had 1gig of ram....
Hey Everyone ... since apparently we wont be recieving any upgrade soon for the Zultra ... whats the next phone you'd suggest ... i do realize that samsung is out of the deal with its plastic mess ... HTC one m8 sounds like a good deal ... tell me what you think!
Don't know if it worth upgrading... a few more Hz and some RAM
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Hey Everyone ... since apparently we wont be recieving any upgrade soon for the Zultra ... whats the next phone you'd suggest ... i do realize that samsung is out of the deal with its plastic mess ... HTC one m8 sounds like a good deal ... tell me what you think!
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Rumor has it that Motorola and Google might release a 5.9in Nexus code name "shamu". I am waiting to see if that is the case. About .5 inches too small IMHO, but might be something to look into if true.
What do u think about Lg G pro 2 ?
AustenlorD said:
Hey Everyone ... since apparently we wont be recieving any upgrade soon for the Zultra ... whats the next phone you'd suggest ... i do realize that samsung is out of the deal with its plastic mess ... HTC one m8 sounds like a good deal ... tell me what you think!
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Get this phone! http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/MediaPadX1/
5000 mAh battery on a 7 inch phone haha
I think huawei mediapad x1 has lower specs than ultra .. It's downgrade
thanks guys!
the huwawi is kinda downgrade from the z ultra as for the motorola its specs isnt quite clear yet ... thus no choice to be made yet ...
Am planning to buy One Plus One. Have already got the invite and purchased one for friend and when I get shareable one, will purchase for myself
http://androidandme.com/2014/08/new...=lenovo-vibe-z2-pro-is-the-latest-qhd-monster
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Galaxy Alpha 6.7"
But no real contender at the moment that has stylus (or pencil) input
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Nubia X6 have no missing features with better cpu, cams(both front&back) and flash.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...uad-Core-2GB-RAM-32GB-Android/1962334331.html
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_vibe_z2_pro-6396.php
This one look like to be the real contender!
6-inch 2560x1440 display
2.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon 801 processor
16-megapixel rear camera with Optical Image Stabilization
5-megapixel front-facing shooter
32GB storage
3GB of RAM
4000mAh battery
4G LTE connectivity
Metallic unibody design
Titanium, gold and black color options
7.7mm thick
Android 4.4 with Lenovo’s Vibe UI 2.0 user interface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwmvrHgFHdk
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I'm afraid that we have no better choice for the replacement. So for me just hoping that this ultra's battery can last as long as possible and whenever it doesn't hold any more charge, hopefully Sony still have the sparepart. Or you know, xperia z2 with modded 400 ppi would be nice.
Lenovo? Yeah right, like you don't need any Android update at all.
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The lenovo has no microsd-slot
I think the lenovo is the only real alternative. Everything else is of lower spec. But having said that the present ultra doesn't really need to be upgraded imo. Specs are plenty good enough to run everything I throw at it and never really feel lags as such. So why waste the money?! But then again even I can't help myself but have a change
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Sony Z3X
Sony has leaked a Z Ultra successor. Wait until Feb for the official announcement.
Sony Xperia Z3X
6.14-in 2560 x 1152 OLED display, a 64-bit 2.86GHz eight-core Snapdragon 810 processor, and two 2GB low-power DDR4 memory chips, curved Exmors 22-megapixel front camera, Waterproof, Android L.
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Sony has leaked a Z Ultra successor. Wait until Feb for the official announcement.
Sony Xperia Z3X
6.14-in 2560 x 1152 OLED display, a 64-bit 2.86GHz eight-core Snapdragon 810 processor, and two 2GB low-power DDR4 memory chips, curved Exmors 22-megapixel front camera, Waterproof, Android L.
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old news, it was all over the camera news sites last month and posted here
I was thinking of buying this phone, since my Xperia Z(Tmobile) doesn't get good signal on 4g.
I also heard the phone was bad with overheating and slow when playing games.
I don't playing games on my phone, I just use normal apps.
My Xperia Z is fast enough, but slow LTE speed is a pain.
I mostly want this phone because it looks like a Xperia Z3 but thinner.
Back is not glass like Z3.
Has band 12 for tmobile.
Is waterproof and micro-USB/ headphone jack is exposed.
Screen looks A LOT better than my old TFT screen on my xperia Z.
Also these videos lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9kYwLmsF6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jH3VC0aOEU
I would never do that to my phone, but nice to know.
So is it faster than my xperia Z?
I mean the Xperia Z had heating issues on 5.0, but once 5.1.1 came out, it ran cooler and less battery drain.
Any opinions on the phone and whether it's faster than Xperia Z for basic app switching and video.
M4 is much better and faster than Z (my friend have it), the only problem is not enough free space by sony preinstalled apps. but with root it can be fixed easilly
My honest opinion as M4 aqua owner... avoid it.
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M4 is much better and faster than Z (my friend have it), the only problem is not enough free space by sony preinstalled apps. but with root it can be fixed easilly
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doesn't necessarily need root, latest update more or else u can have 2GB+ free, clear cache on first boot u get 3GB+, which is almost the highest possible space able to get
well ..wasnt the dual SIM equipped with 16 GB?
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well ..wasnt the dual SIM equipped with 16 GB?
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Yes, it is.
I am getting 16gb USA version. I looked up some info on specs and looks like Sd 615 on M4 is faster than the S4 Pro on Xperia Z. Bought M4 for $220, looks to be a decent price?
the 16 GB seems the only possibile choiche...right?
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Yeah, Android has issues when storage is almost full. Also you need 1-2gb for Cache, since it adds up the more you use it.
Great phone if you have 16Gb version, I love this phone but with the 8Gb version I have it absolutely sucks I have to try and scavenge storage almost daily sucks more because normally we have 14 day returns on stuff in this country, I found this issue out about 3 hours after buying it but when you get it from a shop in the UK you don't have a right to return!!! I was supposed to have it mail order from EE but they cocked up and didn't sent it so I end up in a shop as I needed a phone ASAP. To top it off I can't unlock it either because its bootloader locked just to annoy me even more!
Moral of the story, check reviews and be wary of operator stores aka order it mail order in the UK so you at least have a cooling off period.
Can anyone check if the phone has audio settings?
My Z has the x-loud,sound effects, Dynamic Normalizer, and ClearAudio+
Does this have any of these on the music app?
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Can anyone check if the phone has audio settings?
My Z has the x-loud,sound effects, Dynamic Normalizer, and ClearAudio+
Does this have any of these on the music app?
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ClearAudio+, Dynamic Normalizer and Equalizer, no X-loud
Got the phone, so far don't notice performance issues compared to Xperia Z. Use it a little more and see how it runs then.
will marshmallow solve the 8gb issue? or better to avoid completely the 8gb version?
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I think it will solve this Problem, because with marshmallow you can combine the internal storage with your Sd card
Absolute rubbish. My Nexus 4 died unfortunately, and my budget was limited so I got M4 Aqua as a replacement.
There are no words to describe how much better Nexus is (was?), the phone from 2012!
So far, the only good point is the battery.
I sincerely hope that the lag will be fixed with Marshmallow, or at least that there are some debloated ROMs here on XDA, 'cause phone out of the box borderlines on unusable.
Do we have the same phone? Mine has no major lag issues. Maybe 1-2 delay when opening apps
Hi,
I'm really surprised. Mine is a E2333 (16GB, dual Sim) unlock without any operator bloatware, and it runs really fast. I also activated STAMINA mode for both standby and Extended Usage(Limits CPU Clock) and on my games (the only cpu intensive one is Flight Pilot - others are Sudoku , ...etc) , the only thing that i notice is 2-3 seconds longer loading time of the game.
In other apps i don't have any problem either.
I have Xperia Aqua M4 8GB from Vodafone UK. After the upgrade to 26.1.A.2.167 got more free space - so far enough for me. At this price point (paid 100GBP (PAYG) + 4GBP unlock) hard to complain (I don't play processor/graphics intensive games though). In some places/countries it sells for more; For sure for 150-200GBP you would find something better. Waiting for a root method without unlocking bootloader and Android 6, but can live without those for now.
Well, for me it's not games or anything (actually, the phone lagged right out of the box!), but interface, especially when switching screens and pulling down notifications (sorry if I seem confusing - English is not my first language) is choppy as hell! And everything seems so slow, comparing to my old Nexus 4. It only gets better when I kill all recently used apps. But seriously, that's what I used to do when I had Sony Sola with 512 MB RAM! I seriously doubt that this is normal behavior for a phone with 2 GB RAM and 8 core processor.
I just hope that Sony fix it with Marshmallow, news seem promising.