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Guys, I totally agree with the two main points of discussion:
1) I am so pissed that when I pre-ordered the Prime on Nov 22 and wasnt given a date (officially and unofficially) I was expecting it in my hands immediately. And now to find out that the date is Dec 19 is such a disappointment to me. Why wherent my unfounded expectations met?!?!?! I will take my business elsewhere out of hatred for Asus for letting me down even! HOW DARE THEY!
2) the Battery/speaker sucks! OMG!!!! How come that thing I dont have doesnt have that thing I thought/wanted! Its like come on, give me everything I want IMMEDIATELY! I want it to feed my dog, wipe my ass, and give me a rubbie! UH! THE BATTERY IS 10:02 Hours instead of 10:15!?!?! WTF FUFUFUFUFUF ASUS! The speaker on this thin ass tablet is not fit well? WTF! I plan on using this tablet as my home stereo!
ASUS, HOW DARE YOU NOT MEET MY IDIOTIC EXPECTATIONS WITH A PRODUCT THAT ISNT SHIPPED OR IN MY HAND?!?!?!?!?!
/sarcasm. ill sit here and wait for my shipment. gracias.
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I laughed when I saw the tread title then even more so from reading your post. I was like oh lord, here we go again..lmfao. Your post basically summarizes what most complaints have been about. Glad to see it was a joke, a good one at that.
You have to admit speaker placement blows and wasnt thouht out very well at all.
First thought You're a super troll
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Wait.......I'm sensing some sarcasm here....
You know what was a REAL let down?
Your mom.
I'm disappointed with the placement and look of the camera and flash on the back of the Prime. It kinda looks like one of these faces
So now every time I'm going to look at it, I'm going to think my Prime is giving me a goofy look and it'll make me self conscious. I have enough problems already without being judged by my tablet.
I was hoping the Prime would cure Cancer and wipe out all traces of AIDS. I was wrong.
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I have enough problems already without being judged by my tablet.
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That made me laugh harder than I have all day.
Why send a negative voice? For those who don't know better and sees the title is likely gonna turn away from buying it. I know its suppose to be sarcastic, but.. anyway.
I was hoping that this thread would be filled with whiners and canceling their orders so I can get mine quicker!
Nice Job OP
I love this tablet and my biggest complaint is that I can't get it fast enough.
That said, why do some people get weird when we discuss a product, it's good and bad points? After all nothing is going to be perfect. Nothing is expected to be perfect. Those of us that are criticizing the speaker are just labeled "whiners"? Come on, it's just a discussion. Nothing to get snarky about.
Guess what, the Transformer Prime is NOT perfect. It's incredibly awesome in my opinion, I need it now. But I think it's okay for me to wish the speaker was better and pray the battery is decent as well.
By far the biggest problem is that I don't have the damn thing my hands yet!!
Plain and simple....if you want a product made the way you want it, build it yourself. Invest the money that it would take and build yourself a tablet. Then as you contemplate what to include in your build, you'll notice that you can't put this or that in it, and then you end up right where the manufacturers are: the tablet you tried to build that was already built.
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By far the biggest problem is that I don't have the damn thing my hands yet!!
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it's the worst problem there is for me too!
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Those of us that are criticizing the speaker are just labeled "whiners"?
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On a semi-serious note, I think the only problem with people complaining about the speaker(s) is that, so far, nobody here has actually HEARD it (them). And the reviews are all over the map: one said the sound is "full and loud" or somesuch, while another said the sound is disappointing (or somesuch), and the others seem to fall somewhere in between. So, we can't go by the reviews, meaning we'll have to wait to get the thing to judge for ourselves.
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On a semi-serious note, I think the only problem with people complaining about the speaker(s) is that, so far, nobody here has actually HEARD it (them). And the reviews are all over the map: one said the sound is "full and loud" or somesuch, while another said the sound is disappointing (or somesuch), and the others seem to fall somewhere in between. So, we can't go by the reviews, meaning we'll have to wait to get the thing to judge for ourselves.
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Nail on head!!! All the complaints have been from people who have not touched the device. They are basing it off reviews, Lets hold the facts for when it's in our hands!
Hahaha!! You mean the prime is NOT the answer to all of mankinds problems??? The shock!!!!
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I was hoping the Prime would cure Cancer and wipe out all traces of AIDS. I was wrong.
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well I'm not cancelling my pre order worse case scenario if it doesn't, make me have an orgasm I'll sell it on eBay! Because I know stores are going to sell out fast and one that initial shipment is gone its gonna be a long wait.
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Nail on head!!! All the complaints have been from people who have not touched the device. They are basing it off reviews, Lets hold the facts for when it's in our hands!
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But this is the "Eee Pad Transformer Prime General" forum. We came here to discuss it. Naturally nobody has this in their hands other than reviewers. So we have to discuss what they told us. I'm not sure what the problem is with that.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/10/2627270/asus-denies-rumors-of-transformer-prime-delay
EDIT: I wouldn't trust this with all my heart either. As Asus's response is rather fishy and can be interpreted multiple ways.
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I am being patiently optimistic. I want to believe it but I will maintain a healthy skepticism until the box is in my hands.
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I am being patiently optimistic. I want to believe it but I will maintain a healthy skepticism until the box is in my hands.
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Part of me wants to believe it. Part of me still cannot explain the reported wifi issues on that chinese forum.
Do we know if this statement covers Canada as well? My Amazon.ca pre-order still shows Jan 31st as the expected ship date (ordered on Nov 26).
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Do we know if this statement covers Canada as well? My Amazon.ca pre-order still shows Jan 31st as the expected ship date (ordered on Nov 26).
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Hopefully. If the NCIX email was false then we (Canada) should be back on track. However, the Amazon delay is a stock issue rather than a delay as far as I know.
I'm in no way trying to be a mod, but was this thread needed? Was there not a thread posted earlier in regards to the phandroid and androidcentral articles based on the other thread where someone posted their letter from NCIX? Either way even though the rep used very loose words if you can read in between the lines, it pretty much falls in line with what I said. US is most likely on track still, just not a huge initial alotment. As an aside, these forums seemed to be going crazy today. I guess everyone is really anxious over the Prime, which they ought to be, and every article or piece of information regarding it, is driving everyone to the edge. We all need to just do whatever we usually do to relax and just enjoy talking about the tablet we are all looking forward to while we wait.
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http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/10/2627270/asus-denies-rumors-of-transformer-prime-delay
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Thank you, although I know I got on ur case in another thread..lmao I ran out of thanks. THIS IS THE FIRST ARTICLE THAT ACTUALLY HAS INFORMATION FROM THE HORSES MOUTH. The words that came out of the horses mouth, Asus, said there is no delay and they still on track for Dec. 19th release. Also verge, is thinkn theres no real widespread wifi issue.
I'm not by far an android fanboy. That person wouldn't own an iPad like I do. I'm a fan of technology in general. No matter the maker. It's just that this device is very promising and has already be said, by several big name sites, to be the best Android tablet by far, so far. To many people trying to nit pick negative info and rain on peoples parade and excitement of this new device which will be a first of it's kind in more ways than one. the majority of people who preordered still stickn with it.
Mission failed at trying to scare the real tech heads away from this device.
That's it... to much BS floating around here, and not enough facts... which is fine, but there are threads popping up every few minutes now about the release date... we need a moderator on this forum... Be putting this off for a while, but I'm volunteering.
See you on the flip side, and hopefully I'll be able to clean some of this crap up.
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I'm in no way trying to be a mod, but was this thread needed? Was there not a thread posted earlier in regards to the phandroid and androidcentral articles based on the other thread where someone posted their letter from NCIX? Either way even though the rep used very loose words if you can read in between the lines, it pretty much falls in line with what I said. US is most likely on track still, just not a huge initial alotment. As an aside, these forums seemed to be going crazy today. I guess everyone is really anxious over the Prime, which they ought to be, and every article or piece of information regarding it, is driving everyone to the edge. We all need to just do whatever we usually do to relax and just enjoy talking about the tablet we are all looking forward to while we wait.
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Actually this thread was needed.. With all the unofficial rumor threads going around. This first article to state official Asus statement saying there is no delay and basically no widespread wifi issues. You have new people checking out this forum section and see all these rumor threads/negative ones and it might deter them from a great device.
Not everyone smart enough to read in-between the lines. It's obvious that slot of people here will believe anything, with no official source to back it up. I'm like you though, I'm ready to relax. Once I get my tablet n everything fine, I'll be sitting back laughing at all these mofos so quick to jump to conclusions. They never gave the prime a fair trial. Innocent until proven guilty. They already giving out guilty verdict without no real evidence that's relevant enough. Lol
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That's it... to much BS floating around here, and not enough facts... which is fine, but there are threads popping up every few minutes now about the release date... we need a moderator on this forum... Be putting this off for a while, but I'm volunteering.
See you on the flip side, and hopefully I'll be able to clean some of this crap up.
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Well it's not like there is much to talk about other than rumours and release dates and such.
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*snip* We all need to just do whatever we usually do to relax and just enjoy talking about the tablet we are all looking forward to while we wait.
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I would, but I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to buy the TP... so I'm jonesin' man, I need a fix! Just a minute, just let me play with the tablet for a minute! Or even look at it! Just to get me over the hump... c'mon man, I'm hurtin' here!
...ok, but no, really, I hadn't realized how much a tablet had changed my technology habits until I no longer had one. Crazy how a device I wasn't quite sure how I was going to use became, in such a short time, my go-to device.
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That's it... to much BS floating around here, and not enough facts... which is fine, but there are threads popping up every few minutes now about the release date... we need a moderator on this forum... Be putting this off for a while, but I'm volunteering.
See you on the flip side, and hopefully I'll be able to clean some of this crap up.
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lol it just sounds like you want power.
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I would, but I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to buy the TP... so I'm jonesin' man, I need a fix! Just a minute, just let me play with the tablet for a minute! Or even look at it! Just to get me over the hump... c'mon man, I'm hurtin' here!
...ok, but no, really, I hadn't realized how much a tablet had changed my technology habits until I no longer had one. Crazy how a device I wasn't quite sure how I was going to use became, in such a short time, my go-to device.
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yea, me to.. i got my ipad stolen 2 months ago, I AM JONESIN SOMETHING FIERCE!
i take a ****, ipad.
I go to bed, Ipad
I'm bored of xbox, ipad.
I wanna watch youpoop or read, IPAD!!!!!
hell i can't even get drunk at my friends house because i get bored without my IPAD!! i CAN. NOT. WAIT! for my asus.
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Actually this thread was needed.. With all the unofficial rumor threads going around. This first article to state official Asus statement saying there is no delay and basically no widespread wifi issues. You have new people checking out this forum section and see all these rumor threads/negative ones and it might deter them from a great device.
Not everyone smart enough to read in-between the lines. It's obvious that slot of people here will believe anything, with no official source to back it up. I'm like you though, I'm ready to relax. Once I get my tablet n everything fine, I'll be sitting back laughing at all these mofos so quick to jump to conclusions. They never gave the prime a fair trial. Innocent until proven guilty. They already giving out guilty verdict without no real evidence that's relevant enough. Lol
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Haha ok fine, I take back that part of my statement. Your thread is ok. I was just hoping people would try to consolidate all of information instead of creating multiple threads.
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I would, but I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to buy the TP... so I'm jonesin' man, I need a fix! Just a minute, just let me play with the tablet for a minute! Or even look at it! Just to get me over the hump... c'mon man, I'm hurtin' here!
...ok, but no, really, I hadn't realized how much a tablet had changed my technology habits until I no longer had one. Crazy how a device I wasn't quite sure how I was going to use became, in such a short time, my go-to device.
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I feel you, I sold my TF to get the Prime and I'm just waiting myself. I try to keep my mind occupied and not think about it. Although everyday I check my order status on Newegg. lol
I'll believe it when Asus mentions something on an official channel.
Since all this speculation is the only entertainment I have as I study for finals i will play devil's advocate here.
That statement from asus is about as vague as it comes. we still "show" to be on schedule? If they are on schedule why not say they ARE on schedule to be released? Why beat around the bush?
Also the whole I will provide an update when i have more information? What more information are you waiting for if there is no delay? I thought you had the information and knew what you were talking about?
Finally why is there absolutely no actual reference to the delay or wifi issue? A simple, no there is no wifi issue, no there is no delay would allay everyone's concerns, but instead all we have is a very vague statement that does not fully dispel anything.
MUAHAHA let the war begin!
But really I think I may have been the first to post about the possible delay when I received an email from memory express stating there was some sort of production delay. Since then it only seems like NCIX has mentioned this to their customers so something weird is going on. It is odd that both retailers would mention a production delay if they were not told that was the case. But really it seems like the possibilities are there is some small problem with a few units (perhaps like the anandtech reviewers received, as in actually broken units) and asus happens to be reducing the units NCIX and memory express are getting. Or they simply do not have enough to fullfill all orders and are cutting out units from NCIX and memory express to fulfill other orders and then NCIX and memory express are lying to us.
I honestly believe the first is probably the most likely as I cant imagine first off memory express and NCIX both choosing to lie to their customers like that (and in my email they were actually quite explicit saying the Asus Vice President for North America Sales and Distribution contacted them about the delay. That is a pretty blatant lie to be telling customers.
Either way I'm staying hopeful I will get my unit sometime during the holiday season as I will be in alberta where the taxes I would have to pay is quite a bit lower! So come on anytime before Jan 4th! And hell if it turns out they lied to me about the whole vice president delay blah blah blah I'll give them hell and maybe get something out of it!
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Since all this speculation is the only entertainment I have as I study for finals i will play devil's advocate here.
That statement from asus is about as vague as it comes. we still "show" to be on schedule? If they are on schedule why not say they ARE on schedule to be released? Why beat around the bush?
Also the whole I will provide an update when i have more information? What more information are you waiting for if there is no delay? I thought you had the information and knew what you were talking about?
Finally why is there absolutely no actual reference to the delay or wifi issue? A simple, no there is no wifi issue, no there is no delay would allay everyone's concerns, but instead all we have is a very vague statement that does not fully dispel anything.
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I may not know much about companys and how they operate, but it seems like there most likely is an wifi issue with what they had to say. Like you said, why not just be like.. NOPE NOPE NOPE wifi good, we good, we give you soon?
there beating are bush and its way to fishy to me. I bet theres a wifi issue, but i don't think its a big deal, its probably a few models are screwed and the rest arn't as good as an laptop (do to what i read an another thread)
This was posted on slashgear's web site sorry I am not allowed to post the web link.
Late last night rumors hit the street that the ASUS Transformer Prime had been delayed and I’m sure a few were saddened by such news. After almost every online retails has sold out of the new quad-core slate we were quick to reach out to ASUS for an official response and have good news to report. According to our sources everything is on track and as planned.
Slashgear reported the samething
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-puts-delay-rumor-to-rest-confirms-transformer-prime-is-on-schedule-10201473/
So apparently some ASUS phone rep claimed deliveries are not delayed, what a shock. The loyal minions are will take this as some sort of official guarantee from Mr. Asus.
The level of baseless negativity here astounds me. It's almost as if people want to believe the thing will arrive 6 months late and is a piece of crap.
These forums are getting really annoying. Flaming just doesn't stop, WTF? People, is it lack of sex, self reasoning for spending 500 bucks/pounds or else that makes you flame people who are not happy with their prime?
Don't get me wrong, i'm a massive android fan.But some of you are just a plain disgrace to androi fan base. What's wrong with person saying that he didn't like Prime? This and that didn't work for him. So what, he needs to be flamed for that? NO. Someone else might read his post and realise that this is exactly the info he was looking for. So in the end, even negative experience helps someone out in the long run.
I'd like to see a trend where people urge other people not to flame, instead of adding fuel to it. Do you think we can do it?
True if you have a problem or need help then this is the XDA developers forum, however its not the complaining and frustration forum. If one is unhappy with his product let him take it to the manufacturer or dealer and write his review to a review forum.
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True if you have a problem or need help then this is the XDA developers forum, however its not the complaining and frustration forum. If one is unhappy with his product let him take it to the manufacturer or dealer and write his review to a review forum.
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So, you are saying that if on is happy with his prime, he's allowed to post his review here, but if he is not happy - getta hell out of here?
Nope Im saying this is a developers forum! That you like or hate your product doesnt help in developing.
No, this is general forum. This is where people share news, opinions, ideas etc...
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Well you got me! I was pretty sure it said XDA developers on the top of the page me bad.
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Well you got me! I was pretty sure it said XDA developers on the top of the page me bad.
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+1 for reading comprehension, -2 for actually understanding.
There is a Developer subforum for EVERY device with an XDA forum.
People come to General for a given device to help make a decision to buy or not. Also to look for solutions to known issues, or to post a new issue and get help.
Don't get me wrong, it's great to be enthused about a device. It's great to happy with your device.
It is, however, idiotic (or at best immature) to stick your fingers in your ears and go "Lalalalala, can't hear you" when there are obviously a plethora of issues with a given device, or an advertised feature that doesn't work up to standard specs.
Point taken, IMO its not constructive, I guess then there is no issues, lets the complaining, flamming and bad mouthing go on, it is the General subforum
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Point taken, IMO its not constructive, I guess then there is no issues, lets the complaining, flamming and bad mouthing go on, it is the General subforum
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Mindless, rampant flaming is as pointless and non-constructive as mindless, rampant fanboi-ism.
Many of us are on XDA because we want to get the most out of our gadgets.
Others just to have high tech toys to play with.
The difference in mindset between these two types of people is what causes the conflicts.
Understanding (note I do not say "tolerance" <spits to clear bad taste from mouth>) each other's mindset will go a long way towards preventing conflicts.
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Point taken, IMO its not constructive, I guess then there is no issues, lets the complaining, flamming and bad mouthing go on, it is the General subforum
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Weird, the whole point of my post was to make people think about it and stop all the flaming and bad mouthing. Trolls are trolls, and they have to be stopped, but there are a lot of post with constructive criticism, and guys posting them deserve to be able voice their opinion without flaming and "cool story bro" bull****.
IMHO, only IMHO but i hope you guys stop for a second and think.
Key word is FANBOYISM. Some of Android fans are just as bad if not worse than iOS fanboys.
There should be one complaint thread. I think the whole issue is being brought about because of the repeats of the same complaints about the tablet. Every bad review says the exact same thing.
I do agree with you though. The flaming needs to stop.
Sure, Prime has its problems.
But I compare Prime with Xoom, SGT 10.1 that I've used so does Prime better.
Do you see that these users are complaining and creates threads to the right and left? No.
both Xoom, SGT 10.1 has been really buggy and has not worked completely 100
All products with android have problems and bugs.
When I buy an android product I am aware that there will be bugs and that sometimes you will feel like a beta tester.
People must remember that both Tegra 3 and ICS is new and requires testing.
Asus makes a really good job with support and are quick updates. there is no manufacturer that is as quick to update, and support their units as Asus.
XDA used to be the place to turn to for help and to learn new things.
Now drown community of **** posts and TROLL
Do not like Prime to take it back to the store. And you do not need tell the whole world that you left it back either.
BREATHE and think before posting.
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Sure, Prime has its problems.
But I compare Prime with Xoom, SGT 10.1 that I've used so does Prime better.
Do you see that these users are complaining and creates threads to the right and left? No.
both Xoom, SGT 10.1 has been really buggy and has not worked completely 100
All products with android have problems and bugs.
When I buy an android product I am aware that there will be bugs and that sometimes you will feel like a beta tester.
People must remember that both Tegra 3 and ICS is new and requires testing.
Asus makes a really good job with support and are quick updates. there is no manufacturer that is as quick to update, and support their units as Asus.
XDA used to be the place to turn to for help and to learn new things.
Now drown community of **** posts and TROLL
Do not like Prime to take it back to the store. And you do not need tell the whole world that you left it back either.
BREATHE and think before posting.
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there we go, perfect example of flaming... This needs to stop.
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There should be one complaint thread. I think the whole issue is being brought about because of the repeats of the same complaints about the tablet. Every bad review says the exact same thing.
I do agree with you though. The flaming needs to stop.
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Why should there be one complaint thread for many types of complaints? One thread for GPS, one thread for lightbleed, one thread for WiFi, etc, etc I find reasonable. And usually there is. If someone posts a new thread they are usually civilly directed to the existing thread on the subject, where all the available info is in one spot.
And even then I would find it reasonable if someone is having an issue out of the ordinary with any of the current issues.
And I have no issues with each RMA horror story in a separate thread either. People need to know about this and not have it glossed over.
Guys cool down man^^
Ask yourself, why do you make a post? Whats the motivation behind it? Do you post out of frustration, because you're angry? Or just because you want to tell someone that he's an idiot?
These are all the wrong motivations in my opinion. There is one thing i really dont understand. Why can't people check the first 1-2 pages of a forum before they make their own thread?
Neither flaming nor whining is constructiv in any way. GPS problems exist, but posting it in every 2nd thread wont make those problems go away.
This forums are here (imho) to find solutions and reporting issues is important. But whining is not reporting an issue. And flaming is not giving a solution. Its just wasting anyone's time. If you report something, give as much info as you can and try it out in any possible situation before posting here. Then wait for answers or check later if a fix has been found.
And I dont want to flame or anything but everytime i see someone posting only to whine and tell us that he will return this stinking thing an image pops into my head:
A child that has just gotten a lollipop but realizing that its not his favorite flavour.
I love mine but it does have small problems.
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there we go, perfect example of flaming... This needs to stop.
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Not really. That is someone disagreeing with your assessment and you over reacting. Some of us like the TP and are tired of the repetitive posts that add nothing new to the discussion.
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I agree with OP and I'll add that the Prime has been such a disaster it does deserve it's own category of negative/problems because the list sure does go on and on and on....... then fanboys could stay out and stop crying.
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Flaming just doesn't stop, WTF? People, is it lack of sex, self reasoning for spending 500 bucks/pounds or else that makes you flame people...
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Do you appreciate the irony here?
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I think there are good points on both sides. It is a development forum but this is the general section. IMO the bottom line is why post a story about your experiences, issues, and going to give up a device, when a post with almost the exact same thing, same issues, same receive date, etc is 2 posts above yours. Post it in the same thread or risk teasing, at least about it being so "12 seconds ago"
edit opps repeated what cloud5 said 2 posts up.
reedit: In fact where people post a new issue, whether leaving the prime or not there is generally no flaming or teasing like the hot pixel thread earlier today.
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Do you appreciate the irony here?
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I was thinking that since we have a single Positive Prime thread, why don't we consolidate the purely dissatisfied threads into one? That way, we are not invalidating complaints that are legitimate, but also not mucking up the front page of the board with complaint thread after complaint thread, most of which are complaining about similar issues. Of course, there are issues that emerge that warrant new threads, like the sleep issue that came out with .13.
I personally have had no issues with my prime, and have no problems with anyone who has had issues. You have legitimate gripes, but I think a new thread for every experience doesn't seem necessary. Much like there shouldn't be a new thread for every good experience, they should just be posted in the Positive Prime Thread.
What you guys think?
Heerocon said:
I was thinking that since we have a single Positive Prime thread, why don't we consolidate the purely dissatisfied threads into one? That way, we are not invalidating complaints that are legitimate, but also not mucking up the front page of the board with complaint thread after complaint thread, most of which are complaining about similar issues. Of course, there are issues that emerge that warrant new threads, like the sleep issue that came out with .13.
I personally have had no issues with my prime, and have no problems with anyone who has had issues. You have legitimate gripes, but I think a new thread for every experience doesn't seem necessary. Much like there shouldn't be a new thread for every good experience, they should just be posted in the Positive Prime Thread.
What you guys think?
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"Love" is general. "Complaints" are specific. "Love" is consistent. "Complaints" are random. Those that "love," love equally. Those with "complaints," vary from device to device. At last tally there were over 300 pages of complaints. The "Positive Transformer Prime Thread" has 35. While it would be nice for those that are happy to banish the complainers to an internment camp, it's not very practical. When Asus’ addresses the issues, the complaints will stop (or at least ratchet down to a typical XDA forum level).
Okay, but....
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"Love" is general. "Complaints" are specific. "Love" is consistent. "Complaints" are random. Those that "love," love equally. Those with "complaints," vary from device to device. At last tally there were over 300 pages of complaints. The "Positive Transformer Prime Thread" has 35. While it would be nice for those that are happy to banish the complainers to an internment camp, it's not very practical. When Asus’ addresses the issues, the complaints will stop (or at least ratchet down to a typical XDA forum level).
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I don't know that "Banishing" is exactly what the OP had in mind, but I agree it would be impractical. The thread would get too large and quickly, intil Asus gets down to it and takes care of the issues. What IS a bit frustrating is that so many threads get hijacked and TURN INTO complaint threads, no matter what the original premise was.
Another concern of mine (I hate to admit I was thinking about these thread even when offline. The damn Prime general thread has become a train wreck thats hard to look away from) is that thread like "Fanboyism at large on Prime forums?"
In there the guy that is going for "Prime # 9 says that few tech sites may pick up his story. This might be the kind of thing that convinces Asus TO move on, and not continue with Prime manufacture. Too costly, too may returns, RMA reworks, etc. That would NOT be good for those with a "marginal" Prime that works for the most part, but suffers from one item in the long list if issues. Say, Bluetooth Fallout. I am not convinced Asus has that resolved, and if so, then the current "FIX" is HW replacement.
If Asus kills the prime because the complaints convince them its a lost cause, who wins that one? The naysayers, and all the sideliners who have been filling forums with negative comments. THEY win, All Prime owners lose. If they sunset the Prime, in favor of another design, they will likewise either kill any further development, or at least reduce it to almost nothing. Not good.
wow, that was a bit harsh dont you think? I was just trying to suggest a solution to the several threads that have similar complaints, such as the My wifi/gps doesnt work like I want threads, or the "This isn't the tablet I want after having used it." threads. I am not suggesting to BANISH PEOPLE TO AN INTERNMENT CAMP WHERE I WILL ELIMINATE YOU THROUGH RACIAL CLEANSING. Sorry I offended you so greatly haha. This whole board has gotten a little out of control with snapback emotional responses over something that really doesn't deserve it. This is tablet, not the culmination of a racial identity or something that is actually worth being so upset over.
I even said in my first post, that there are issues that are new and emerging that deserve their own threads. I am not attempting to silence people who have legitimate gripes or complaints. I'm just suggesting a little organization. Sorry to offend you.
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But it's not the people working through issues that cause that. If you look at some of the current problem threads, it's the people not experiencing the issue jumping in with "mine's perfect" and challenging whether the issue even exists that moves the thread away from its original purpose. If people that were happy left the people that aren't alone (at least in issues threads) the threads would be half the size and the problems identified sooner.
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But it's not the people working through issues that cause that. If you look at some of the current problem threads, it's the people not experiencing the issue jumping in with "mine's perfect" and challenging whether the issue even exists that moves the thread away from its original purpose. If people that were happy left the people that aren't alone (at least in issues threads) the threads would be half the size and the problems identified sooner.
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I think both sides are guilty of this. I've been lurking for a while and seen people demeaning those who have problems, but also people who have problems have been accusing those who have no problems of blatant fanboyism. This is aside from my main point, which is simply organization.
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This is tablet, not the culmination of a racial identity or something that is actually worth being so upset over.
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People are upset. It's a bit judgemental of you to think they shouldn't be. And coming in rather late to the party without the benefit of the experiences others have had and trying to (re)organize the forum is a bit presumptuous.
I'm by no means offended, but forums are shaped by the "whole" not a few individuals. Since the forum's moderated everyone here has the right and ability to make suggestions to the moderator. It's jerdog and af974 if you want to reach out to them.
If you guys look at some of the recent threads especially with all the firmware update releases. That there is no clear cut on whos side is whos..... with the exception of a few people. People who had problems had a probable fix with an update while the same update caused working primes to have flaws. And who knows what will happen in the next updates. Will it improve your prime or cure it or will it hinder it or even worse render it useless?
This would be my major gripe, that updates are being released with the lack of knowledge on what it will do on the machine. To add to it, is you are constantly reminded to update. And if you do get the bad hand of this round of updates, you are left to deal with it with no chance of reverting back to the previous update, and praying the next update whenever that will be that it will bring your prime back to normal. Which makes prime owners questions Asus's reliability. Yes, you maybe happy with your prime now but where in the emotional roller coaster state will you be in the future updates?
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People are upset. It's a bit judgemental of you to think they shouldn't be. And coming in rather late to the party without the benefit of the experiences others have had and trying to (re)organize the forum is a bit presumptuous.
I'm by no means offended, but forums are shaped by the "whole" not a few individuals. Since the forum's moderated everyone here has the right and ability to make suggestions to the moderator. It's jerdog and af974 if you want to reach out to them.
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I wasn't saying people should not be upset. I've said in almost every one of my replies, people have legitimate gripes AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE UPSET.
I was more talking about you blowing a request for organization out of proportion by calling it "a banishment to an internment camp" which in my opinion is a little inappropriate.
I'm not going to argue about this any further. I am in no way trying to silence anyone. All I SUGGESTED was a consolidation of similar threads to organize things.
Thanks.
a complaint threat won't work. What would work however is a complaint section. There should be a separate section called problems/complaints or problems/issues. Something to that effect. This way everyone who wants to talk about their problems can talk in there, then mods would be free to delete all of the redundant complaint threads from the general section. It really is win win for both sides.
Thank you. All I am looking for is solutions to the obvious problems this board is having with redundancy.
In response to Junrider, should I enter the camp of unsatisfied prime owners, I would like to be able to quickly find people with similar issues and be able to communicate with them effectively instead of sifting through 300 pages of general complaints, trying to find people who are experiencing the same thing. I don't know if that will happen to me but it would be convenient if the threads were organized for people who are experiencing problems.
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should I enter the camp of unsatisfied prime owners, I would like to be able to quickly find people with similar issues and be able to communicate with them effectively instead of sifting through 300 pages of general complaints, trying to find people who are experiencing the same thing. I don't know if that will happen to me but it would be convenient if the threads were organized for people who are experiencing problems.
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Unfortunately, i dont think it will happen. For every complaint thread you will have people from the other fence commenting:
"If your not happy, return it"
"My prime is working perfectly, i dont get why your shouldn't"
"Its your fault"
"You knew what you were getting yourself into, so why are you complaining?"
"Cool story Bro!"
"already a thread, so why are you making another one?"
ETC.....
This will then get all sides riled up and go off tangent to what the original thread is suppose to be. So sifting through the threads for useful tidbits will be your expertise if you not one yet.
And this thread is not enough for listing the problems of the Prime. This essentially needs more division because the there has been problem threads of the prime's every square inch. From back plate, screen, circuitry, battery, connectors, GPS, wifi, bluetooth, OS, all the updates, apps, and processor.
If i missed something chime in..
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I don't know that "Banishing" is exactly what the OP had in mind, but I agree it would be impractical. The thread would get too large and quickly, intil Asus gets down to it and takes care of the issues. What IS a bit frustrating is that so many threads get hijacked and TURN INTO complaint threads, no matter what the original premise was.
Another concern of mine (I hate to admit I was thinking about these thread even when offline. The damn Prime general thread has become a train wreck thats hard to look away from) is that thread like "Fanboyism at large on Prime forums?"
In there the guy that is going for "Prime # 9 says that few tech sites may pick up his story. This might be the kind of thing that convinces Asus TO move on, and not continue with Prime manufacture. Too costly, too may returns, RMA reworks, etc. That would NOT be good for those with a "marginal" Prime that works for the most part, but suffers from one item in the long list if issues. Say, Bluetooth Fallout. I am not convinced Asus has that resolved, and if so, then the current "FIX" is HW replacement.
If Asus kills the prime because the complaints convince them its a lost cause, who wins that one? The naysayers, and all the sideliners who have been filling forums with negative comments. THEY win, All Prime owners lose. If they sunset the Prime, in favor of another design, they will likewise either kill any further development, or at least reduce it to almost nothing. Not good.
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It's funny that you mentioned this. After all of my information gathering and putting together a very compelling story with receipts, pictures, quotes etc... I almost hit the send button last nite. The problem is, I'm concerned(resale value) how this will affect others with a good Prime or if I happen to find one. Currently the Prime is sold out in my area. When Bestbuy receives new units I will give it another go.
March is coming fast, and with it other quad core competitors. It will be interesting to see how the Prime fares when it's not the only quad core tablet on the market. By then the TF300t and TF700t will be making noise.
I agree with op too much out of hand. If people think its warranted then OK. I got several PM from people saying that we should do like the negative posters. As we know the positive ones outnumber those with issues. It was suggested to me that we start making a new thread for everything that works great on our primes. Then that'll let the ones with issues see how it is. Cuz if we started doing that, then we would quickly override n overshadow the issues threads. Which basically has the same people in it posting over n over again. The ones without issues are greater in numbers and therefore if we started making a new thread for every good thing working on our prime then maybe that'll get a message across. Then see how the complaint thread people feel. Cuz we have every right also to make a new thread on all the good stuff also like the complainers do with everything that doesn't work.
So this is the warning..lmao. already there are several just itching to get this started. I was against it n seems extreme but with all the complaint threads, maybe its needed. Just like those complaint threads on a particular issue that people keep making same threads on, Good prime owners can all do the same with the different things that do work. You don't want to get into a numbers war with the good prime owners. All polls already show we majority. So heed the warning. Consolidate complaint threads into 1 for at least each issue. Not just one giant one. 1 positive thread was made for centralization. Don't make us start expanding up n dis mofo..lmao
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It's funny that you mentioned this. After all of my information gathering and putting together a very compelling story with receipts, pictures, quotes etc... I almost hit the send button last nite. The problem is, I'm concerned(resale value) how this will affect others with a good Prime or if I happen to find one. Currently the Prime is sold out in my area. When Bestbuy receives new units I will give it another go.
March is coming fast, and with it other quad core competitors. It will be interesting to see how the Prime fares when it's not the only quad core tablet on the market. By then the TF300t and TF700t will be making noise.
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You gonna be waiting till June on that buddy..lmfao. plus its already confirmed the TF-300 is not a prime replacement. Its actually a lower spec device for a completely different market sector. It's more like an OG transformer 1.5. Lower spec than the prime..meaning less powerful and less features.
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All polls already show we majority
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Polls changes. Why? Because with every prime firmware update you get working primes that are now showing problems. Before it might a huge landslide win lets say 5:1. Of course we really dont know the actual numbers, but the recent poll on trust on Asus shows maybe a 2:1 on prime owners that are happy with Asus. Gates are open on your happy prime end and people are slowly wandering there way over to the other side. Hopefully, Asus can get their act straight and pick up the consumers that they lost, while still keeping the happy ones.
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I agree with op too much out of hand. If people think its warranted then OK. I got several PM from people saying that we should do like the negative posters. As we know the positive ones outnumber those with issues. It was suggested to me that we start making a new thread for everything that works great on our primes. Then that'll let the ones with issues see how it is. Cuz if we started doing that, then we would quickly override n overshadow the issues threads. <snipped to address this comment>
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To me, the point is every thing that works GREAT does not make it GREAT! We all purchased the Prime expecting to get GREAT. This is a cutting edge device. Sure we might expect a few "glitches" with a new OS (ICS) but we didn't expect to see all the issues we have been seeing. I am actually a pretty happy camper with my Prime but I keep thinking...well I can live with lousy GPS, or I can live with slight light bleeding on one corner, or I can live with that one or two stuck pixels, but the point is, IMO, why should I have to at this price point? Worse issues are constant reboots, poor battery life, sleep of death, a whole plethora of issues. I don't want to pick a nit here but I'm seriously considering waiting for a 100% working device (which would be GREAT) or settling for one that I can live with!
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To me, the point is every thing that works GREAT does not make it GREAT! We all purchased the Prime expecting to get GREAT. This is a cutting edge device. Sure we might expect a few "glitches" with a new OS (ICS) but we didn't expect to see all the issues we have been seeing. I am actually a pretty happy camper with my Prime but I keep thinking...well I can live with lousy GPS, or I can live with slight light bleeding on one corner, or I can live with that one or two stuck pixels, but the point is, IMO, why should I have to at this price point?
I don't want to pick a nit here but I'm seriously considering waiting for a GREAT device or settling for one that I can live with!
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For me, and several others, it is a ggreat device. I don't have to settle for bad light bleed or stuck pixels because I don't have those issues. Its about what you want though. For me, I'm good. No need tl wait. I made a great decision in my Prime and have no regrets. I'm not trying to convince people it is. The ones who satisfied already know it is.
Honestly, if someone is not satisfied and within their return window, just return the device. If its that faulty to where you can't enjoy it, do what you feel is right. If you have a faulty device one way or another and want to ride this train because you know it'll lead to a great place, then welcome aboard. We all prime owners one way or another. No reason for people with good working primes to make those that don't have them feel bad or that they lucked out. No reason for people with faulty devices to try to convince LR rationalize that everyone has a broken Prime. One thing for sure, I'm keeping this mofo. Works to great for me. Hopefully Asus will finally make everyone happy n fix this fiasco of a launch. Its not too late to then this whole thing around. So everyone can be posting how much they are pleased with device. PRIME has too much potential to let it go to waste. Ill ride this train all the way till the end no matter what. This all has been the most enjoyable experience here in xda I've ever had. Its like entertainment. Love the debates. Love the poking fun St each other. A very diverse group of owners up here no doubt and that's what xda is about. Diverse people from all over the world coming together for love of technology and a particular device. EVEN people with faulty devices don't really want to return it.
SO Asus, if you dont want to lose more fans than you already have, you better do something and announce something BIG, fast. PRIME supposed to take peoples minds off of what's coming up. With the large number of defective devices out here, people not going to hesitate to look past prime n jump ship unless you address them ASAP. Get it together Asus. Not fair for some of us to enjoy our devices n others not. You should want everyone to be happy with your product. So in a way, my experience is tainted also because our fellow members can't be happy with their devices. Which the expect nothing less than the best and what you said you would provide. LIVE BY YOUR MOTTO....this is my letter to you Asus......[sheds a tear...lol]
I was kind of playing devil's advocate ... the only real issue with my Prime is the GPS performance while driving, but I am able to wi-fi tether to my phone if for some reason I don't want to use my phone for navigation. I think the "Official" sticky threads are sufficient for reporting issues. I think XDA forum (ASUS Prime section) has deteriorated because of all the overlapping threads.
Sent from my ADR6350 using xda premium
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SO Asus, if you dont want to lose more fans than you already have, you better do something and announce something BIG, fast. PRIME supposed to take peoples minds off of what's coming up. With the large number of defective devices out here, people not going to hesitate to look past prime n jump ship unless you address them ASAP. Get it together Asus. Not fair for some of us to enjoy our devices n others not. You should want everyone to be happy with your product. So in a way, my experience is tainted also because our fellow members can't be happy with their devices. Which the expect nothing less than the best and what you said you would provide. LIVE BY YOUR MOTTO....this is my letter to you Asus......[sheds a tear...lol]
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Aweeee
I already sent the letter to ASUS support. I hope to hear something back.
Dear Asus,
I have owned many consumer electronic devices and I must say, the TF201 is hands down the WORST piece of gadget I have ever owned. Nothing about it works and the worst part is, you are reluctant to help us to make it work.
For 10 months, we, the users, have been beta testing the TF201 so that you can develop better, improved products like the 700. We paid over 500 dollars to test products for you and receive no support. We have been through numerous ANR on simple tasks such as web browsing or playing a 2D game. Seriously? Is this what we paid 500 dollars for? Not only that, every subsequent firmware update did nothing to improve the product. Yet asus hasn't done much to help the situation. You provide the users with a half baked bootloader unlock tool that doesn't work for 50% of the users (check XDA). When asked to fix the bootloader unlock tool, ASUS says they dont support unlocking the device and can't do anything about it. Asus requested users to RMA their device to fix the bootloaded issue yet when the users get it back, there had been no change. No issues were addressed. Now we are stuck with a garbage firmware from ASUS that can’t even do the simplest things right and users can't even put a custom ROM to help make our experience better.
Two days ago, you released an OTA for jellybean which failed to update for about half the existing owners. Now when we check for the update, the tablet can't find it anymore and we are stuck with the same crappy 4.0.3 firmware. The devs are going above and beyond to modify the update file so it can work for everyone (check XDA) since asus is too lazy to upload the firmware on their support/download page. I got a question for you ASUS, can you do ANYTHING right? How much do you have to suck to screw up an OTA? I have used many android products from many vendors and NONE of them had nearly as many issues as the TF201. In the dev community it is called the bastard child. Many owners simply sold it at a loss or were successful at trading it at bestbuy for something else since Asus would not support them. You have the courage to charge customer $500+ for such a garbage device yet you provide this level of support? I understand problems happen and users are willing to cope with issues. But the least you could do is support your product by providing us with a functioning bootloader unlocker so the users that are having problems with the garbage firmware can at least use a custom firmware to make it useable again. We paid for this device and we expect some level of functionality such as browsing the web for the money we paid. At the very least, you can upload the new firmware on the support page so users who are having issues downloading the firmware (because some engineers can’t even make a functioning OTA) can at least manually upgrade to 4.1.
Overall, I must say, this tablet has done nothing more than frustrating me. Every time I go to use it, something goes wrong. I hope someone reads this email and feels guilty for charging upwards of $500 to deliver such subpar device to its consumers. At the very least, check out the XDA forum for TF201 and see how much time is being spent by users to simply get a straightforward OTA. Finally, if asus can’t deliver remotely what they promised, they should leave the tablet game for companies that know how to build a decent firmware or OTA.
Sincerely,
A disappointed customer
Given their track record, they will probably ignore it. I dont expect to hear anything back.
I have the same feelings as you, but post this on their facebook page or something if you want it to make some kind of impact. Here on XDA there are what, like 2 Asus marketing employees who occasionally come by?
Your opinion
I respect your right to have an opinion. I actually only come to this developers website to read productive opinions. Your opinion has no purpose here other than to fan the flames of your ire. It's useless for productive people and the moderators should delete your thread.
Yuhfhrh said:
I have the same feelings as you, but post this on their facebook page or something if you want it to make some kind of impact. Here on XDA there are what, like 2 Asus marketing employees who occasionally come by?
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I already posted on their FB page. But they deleted it. So I emailed them directly. I am looking for Jony shi's email address so I can email him personally. I am pretty sure he has no clue how bad the team F'ed it up
I thought most people who had issues with the OTA had rooted their tablet and messed with it somehow. To me it seems like asus has made sure the update works for everyone who hasn't done anything to their prime and that it doesn't brick anyones tablet, and it seems many people are able to get their tablet back into a state such that they can install the update. I really don't think we could expect them to do much more.
Also I don't get why the download problems where so terrible, it's still only been two days since the first release and I think most people are able to get the update pretty quickly now.
And also note that not only did they get us jellybean quicker than most other devices, but they also fixed one of the biggest issues with the prime (ANR). The only thing I really am disappointed over is the lack of status updates leading up to the release.
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I respect your right to have an opinion. I actually only come to this developers website to read productive opinions. Your opinion has no purpose here other than to fan the flames of your ire. It's useless for productive people and the moderators should delete your thread.
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This kind of attitude of being quiet and trying to figure things out by ourselves is why ASUS can get away with it. No one brings it up. TF201 is probably the worst tablet out their for android in its price range and it has been 10 months and there have been no improvements. I am not whining, I am just stating something that is unfair. No matter how much the devs try, they can't unlock the prime unless ASUS does something. And most of us dont have hours to fiddle with something like OTA that should just work. So we SHOULD bring up the issue. I think more people should contact ASUS directly until something is done because clearly we can't solve the problem.
We deserve something better than a paperweight for $500.
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I thought most people who had issues with the OTA had rooted their tablet and messed with it somehow. To me it seems like asus has made sure the update works for everyone who hasn't done anything to their prime and that it doesn't brick anyones tablet, and it seems many people are able to get their tablet back into a state such that they can install the update. I really don't think we could expect them to do much more.
Also I don't get why the download problems where so terrible, it's still only been two days since the first release and I think most people are able to get the update pretty quickly now.
And also note that not only did they get us jellybean quicker than most other devices, but they also fixed one of the biggest issues with the prime (ANR). The only thing I really am disappointed over is the lack of status updates leading up to the release.
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I am stock unrooted. My download failed and my tablet can't find it anymore. And ASSUS is too busy watching porn and dont have the time to upload the firmware to their website.
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This kind of attitude of being quiet and trying to figure things out by ourselves is why ASUS can get away with it. No one brings it up. TF201 is probably the worst tablet out their for android in its price range and it has been 10 months and there have been no improvements. I am not whining, I am just stating something that is unfair. No matter how much the devs try, they can't unlock the prime unless ASUS does something. And most of us dont have hours to fiddle with something like OTA that should just work. So we SHOULD bring up the issue. I think more people should contact ASUS directly until something is done because clearly we can't solve the problem.
We deserve something better than a paperweight for $500.
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Although I agree with the sentiment (I too have a prime) i'm seriously fed up of coming on this forum and seeing people complain.
there are enough complaint threads already.
I am fortunate enough to have been able to unlock my device, but that in itself contains massive risks (I almost bricked mine a couple of weeks ago)
when trying to look for a solution to my partial brick, all I could find were complaint threads. even semi useful threads were full of complaints. this made the task very frustrating.
By all means complain to Asus... but PLEASE enough with these threads and all of the thread jacking that is going on.. I want rid of my prime not because of performance, but because I can't read any thread in any section of the Prime forum without having to hear the same people complaining again and again.
I'm sorry if this seems confrontational, but I have seriously had enough of it!!
P.S. OP, please change the subject of this post to something more relevant like "My complaint letter to Asus ( Yet another complaint thread)"
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This kind of attitude of being quiet and trying to figure things out by ourselves is why ASUS can get away with it. No one brings it up. TF201 is probably the worst tablet out their for android in its price range and it has been 10 months and there have been no improvements. I am not whining, I am just stating something that is unfair. No matter how much the devs try, they can't unlock the prime unless ASUS does something. And most of us dont have hours to fiddle with something like OTA that should just work. So we SHOULD bring up the issue. I think more people should contact ASUS directly until something is done because clearly we can't solve the problem.
We deserve something better than a paperweight for $500.
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My point is that this post here is not that thing you claim to want. Nobody here works for asus and nobody here is looking for the opinion of the unhappy user. Its been done to death and is not an original thought.
People dont come to this site (or shouldnt) hoping the manufacturer is here to fix the problems they have.
I honestly don't know what you're trying to achieve here. First of all, this is what, the 14th thousand complaint thread OF THE DAY? We get it, you hate your device. Now be a big boy and sell the damn thing if you're so fed up with it. Second of all, if you want Asus to take your letter seriously, or read it without groaning like I did, don't use phrases like "how much do you have to suck" or "crappy, garbage firmware". If you expect Asus to respond professionally, I'd start by not sounding like a 12 year old boy that had his toy broken.
Jellybean's been out 2 days. TWO WHOPPING DAYS. If you can't access the update now I'd suggest you wait a week or two, because evidently you're not the only Prime user in the world. There are plenty of people who are also attempting to update their device, and mind I point out that many have gotten the new firmware and are quite happy with the result. There's no need to throw a fit simply because you weren't among the firsts in line.
Finally, don't complain about not being able to put custom ROMs on your device. That's not Asus' problem. We all know that unlocking the bootloader and flashing custom ROMs void the warranty. No one forced you to do it, and if you did it and borked your device, Asus has no obligation to fix it for you. I fully understand the risks of tampering with the firmware, and if tomorrow I flashed something new and bricked my Prime, I wouldn't go running to Asus and demand an answer.
I have my fair share of problems with the Prime, trust me. But this forum has brought whining to a whole new level.
sorry fellas i have to agree with op. and im not hatin on asus. i have a nexus seven and two high end asus laptops (though the keyboards are absolute ****) which i love. the prime is the biggest piece of **** ever sold to the american public. i mean really? you bottleneck the device by having horribly slow storage? and a device that is only wifi with **** wifi?
i took mine back to best buy today and recieved a 538 dollar credit. so it was made right by best buy. praise baby jesus that POS is gone and i didnt take a loss.
I wish i could get my money back for this POS from gamestop or asus. I shouldnt have to sell it for a loss because of asuses broken promises and lack of competence.
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My point is that this post here is not that thing you claim to want. Nobody here works for asus and nobody here is looking for the opinion of the unhappy user. Its been done to death and is not an original thought.
People dont come to this site (or shouldnt) hoping the manufacturer is here to fix the problems they have.
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I don't get it. While I do understand that Prime XDA forum is nothing but complaints (I wonder why...), you also have an option to not read any of them. But you continue to reply to majority of them... mock the individual... and say "blah blah blah"... just as useless as many other complaint threads as you put it.
And really?? Gary Key doesn't work for Asus? Asus_Tien doesn't work for Asus??
Same for my.deleate mesage and user....
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I actually do agree with whycali... we have too many thread complaining about the device... what is the point? does the number of threads make a difference to Asus?... if you have problems with the device, that's really bad luck, but use an existing thread instead of creating a new one... I rarely read these thread of complaints, but it's becoming really hard to find useful threads...
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I actually do agree with whycali... we have too many thread complaining about the device... what is the point? does the number of threads make a difference to Asus?... if you have problems with the device, that's really bad luck, but use an existing thread instead of creating a new one... I rarely read these thread of complaints, but it's becoming really hard to find useful threads...
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I agree... I almost didn't buy my prime because of all the negative things that have been said here. Thankfully I decided to make up my own mind and im glad i did. Best thing i have bought myself in awhile.
Thankfully im reporting non of the issue's that everyone else has been. maybe im Lucky or people are just blowing things out of proportion. Ive been using ASUS products for years and Ive never had problems with any of their products.... can't believe that their build quality has went down that much since the last computer i built which is still running fine today.
TANIS8585 said:
I agree... I almost didn't buy my prime because of all the negative things that have been said here. Thankfully I decided to make up my own mind and im glad i did. Best thing i have bought myself in awhile.
Thankfully im reporting non of the issue's that everyone else has been. maybe im Lucky or people are just blowing things out of proportion. Ive been using ASUS products for years and Ive never had problems with any of their products.... can't believe that their build quality has went down that much since the last computer i built which is still running fine today.
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Yes, I love this device... I've had no problems with anything so far... and it's the best device I've purchased...
I don't think their build quality has really gone down... cuz like you I've been using Asus products for a while...maybe it's just one of those devices.... something that every company faces...
craigacgomez said:
Yes, I love this device... I've had no problems with anything so far... and it's the best device I've purchased...
I don't think their build quality has really gone down... cuz like you I've been using Asus products for a while...maybe it's just one of those devices.... something that every company faces...
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Well as long as mine works perfectly it doesn't matter what anybody says.... just sad that i come on here to discuss what people are doing with their tabs and what cool things are being done and all i see is negativity.
out of every forum here on xda ive looked at this one for the prime seems to be the worst.
I get that the prime is not perfect and has its flaws, but what i really don't get is why people are upset about OTA problem^^
OTA's are supposed to work for stock devices, if you do stuff like rooting and modding you should be aware that OTAs might not work anymore. Yes even rooting and installing busybox will modify your system and may cause OTA problems.
I personally have no problems with my prime. Happy user since last January. And now it has jellay bean! <3 loving it so far
rosebud said:
Although I agree with the sentiment (I too have a prime) i'm seriously fed up of coming on this forum and seeing people complain.
there are enough complaint threads already.
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I'm personally fed up with people being fed up at seeing so many complaint threads. Be mad at Asus for selling us a crappy product and not supporting it. This product deserves to have an XDA thread chock full of complaint threads to remind people who see them what a garbage company Asus is.