[Q] How would i flash a new kernel to a rom - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello! i am in the process of finding a rom that i like (unrelated) and have found one that seems pretty good (ShiftS3ns3) but a lot of the comments state that the rom works really well with the leankernel, but the only problem is that i am not sure how to go about combining the kernel and the rom :/ would i flash the kernel first then the rom? or would i do rom first and then kernel? and when i flash these, would i clear cache, clear dalvik cache, clear data, format system for both? i usually do that for rom flashes, sorry if these are dumb questions thanks!

lacrosse1991 said:
Hello! i am in the process of finding a rom that i like (unrelated) and have found one that seems pretty good (ShiftS3ns3) but a lot of the comments state that the rom works really well with the leankernel, but the only problem is that i am not sure how to go about combining the kernel and the rom :/ would i flash the kernel first then the rom? or would i do rom first and then kernel? and when i flash these, would i clear cache, clear dalvik cache, clear data, format system for both? i usually do that for rom flashes, sorry if these are dumb questions thanks!
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Pretty much all covered in my QandA. link in my sig.

loonatik78 said:
Pretty much all covered in my QandA. link in my sig.
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thanks! ive actually used that page multiple times already (just recently rooted my phone for the first time 3 days ago so fairly new to the scene, although experienced with linux so i have a basic understanding of what is going on lol) the only thing though is that i am confused about whether there is any order i should do it in? by that i mean would i do something like
clear dalvik cache, sys cache, data, format system
flash rom
clear dalvik cache, sys cache, data, format system
flash kernel? or would it be something different?

lacrosse1991 said:
thanks! ive actually used that page multiple times already (just recently rooted my phone for the first time 3 days ago so fairly new to the scene, although experienced with linux so i have a basic understanding of what is going on lol) the only thing though is that i am confused about whether there is any order i should do it in? by that i mean would i do something like
clear dalvik cache, sys cache, data, format system
flash rom
clear dalvik cache, sys cache, data, format system
flash kernel? or would it be something different?
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You at most need to wipe your caches, but nothing else. If you format data or system you'll need to reflash both. So flash your rom, them flash your kernel. You shouldn't have any problems. Your phone can't build the cache unless it's rebooted after a flash, so you shouldn't have to wipe anything.
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[Q] "Clean Cache" & "Full Wipe" with xRecovery prior to flashing new rom?

[Q] "Clean Cache" & "Full Wipe" with xRecovery prior to flashing new rom?
Is it true that the best way to keep your phone in optimal state, is to clean the cache and do a full wipe with xRecovery every time before you flash your X10 with any (new) rom?
A friend told me that if you don't clean cache and do a full wipe before you flash to a new rom, the cache content of the rom you're on cannot be removed after flashing to a new rom because the new rom has no re-collection of the contents of the cache from the previous rom you were on.
That's bs... Xrecovery cleans the cache and wipes for you, watch what it says while you're flashing and you will see.
I always recommend doing it anyway just in case, full wipe, then wiping cache partition and finally dalvik cache.
I don`t know and really don`t care
I simply just wipe/clean EVERYTHING i can before any installation.
Result?
Never had most problems users have. Ever. So i will continue
rendeiro2005 said:
I don`t know and really don`t care
I simply just wipe/clean EVERYTHING i can before any installation.
Result?
Never had most problems users have. Ever. So i will continue
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LOL LOL
fiscidtox said:
That's bs... Xrecovery cleans the cache and wipes for you, watch what it says while you're flashing and you will see.
I always recommend doing it anyway just in case, full wipe, then wiping cache partition and finally dalvik cache.
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But if it is bs and xRecovery does it for you. Then why do you recommend doing it anyway? You got me slightly confused here.
Kimodroid said:
But if it is bs and xRecovery does it for you. Then why do you recommend doing it anyway? You got me slightly confused here.
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All I'm saying is if you forget it's not a huge deal, and what he is saying isn't true...
I do it anyway just because when I had a htc hero devs used to recommend you did, so force of habit, yet I know for a fact that what he said isn't true. It could perhaps miss some data which is why you should still wipe, but that data would definitely not be stuck in limbo forever..
fiscidtox said:
All I'm saying is if you forget it's not a huge deal, and what he is saying isn't true...
I do it anyway just because when I had a htc hero devs used to recommend you did, so force of habit, yet I know for a fact that what he said isn't true. It could perhaps miss some data which is why you should still wipe, but that data would definitely not be stuck in limbo forever..
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Thanks for clearifying that.
No problem
if not switching roms, does it make a difference to your system performance to occasionally wipe the dalvik cache and cache partition?
tdiddy1987 said:
if not switching roms, does it make a difference to your system performance to occasionally wipe the dalvik cache and cache partition?
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I did it on beta 4 and it actually made my performance wayyy worse.. so much so that I had to go back to an earlier backup I had made. MY linpack dropped from 35 to about 6 and the battery started getting super hot, and was dropping insanely fast.
I wouldnt recommend it during usage of a rom. What you can do is get a cache cleaning app and use that regularly! I use cache cleaner ng
rendeiro2005 said:
I don`t know and really don`t care
I simply just wipe/clean EVERYTHING i can before any installation.
Result?
Never had most problems users have. Ever. So i will continue
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+1 and here are a few more characters
I think this will help you get a "clean" install and saves you from other problems later?
Or is there Cons to always doing this?

[Q] should i factory reset between flashing roms not sure?

im kinda new to this i successfully unlocked and flash my first rom from this amazing forum but now not sure if its ok to just install another rom right on to of the 1 im using or should i do a factory reset inbetween i mean factory reset that is in cwmrecovery
jimmerz0823 said:
im kinda new to this i successfully unlocked and flash my first rom from this amazing forum but now not sure if its ok to just install another rom right on to of the 1 im using or should i do a factory reset inbetween i mean factory reset that is in cwmrecovery
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Many people do just in case since something happens. Just backup everything first!
IMO...
jimmerz0823 said:
im kinda new to this i successfully unlocked and flash my first rom from this amazing forum but now not sure if its ok to just install another rom right on to of the 1 im using or should i do a factory reset inbetween i mean factory reset that is in cwmrecovery
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i would. if you don't, you might get stuck in a bootloop. some roms don't require you to (ie...CM updates). but even then, it doesn't hurt to do it after so many CM updates. now, if you don't want to lose your data, i'd recommend using titanium backup...if you haven't already.
Rule of thumb would be as follows:
Wipe Dalvik.
Wipe cache.
Factory/data reset.
Flash ROM.
Wipe Dalvik.
Wipe cache.
Factory data/reset.
This should keep you safe. Only takes an extra minute to do.
Some ROM's will wipe for you, but I always do a manual wipe first anyway.
hey thanks alot guys just wasnt sure but i dnt ever see the wipe dalvik option am i missing something
oh and for some reason my camera isnt wrking now that i flashed roms not sure y i folled instructions very well
jimmerz0823 said:
hey thanks alot guys just wasnt sure but i dnt ever see the wipe dalvik option am i missing something
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In CWM select advanced on the main menu and you will see wipe Dalvik there.

[Q] Dirty flash?

so its ot that im new to rooting or anything but this is the first time i have to do this. The redemption rom my my inspire 4g says to dirty flash and i know what it is im just not sure what to wipe and what not to wipe?
well there should be instructions on how to install the rom because the dev should want more people to flash without troubles.
Normally i would go to the rom's home thread and read a few pages of comments because you arent the only one having this problem and xda is all about research, not clogging up forums with post.
But.... since im a nice guy..
wipe cache,
wipe dalvik cache,
dont wipe data.
the point is to flash over the rom.
thank u robogoflow it was my question too

aosp to sense?

I'm on tron ATM and want to try a few sense Roms to test the cameras. Do I need to do anything special prior to flashing? I'm son and am familiar with flashing the boot IMG and all that fun stuff. Thanks for all the help you've all given, I really appreciate it
There is nothing special you need to do, just factory wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvik and flash sense. I don't think you need to manually flash the boot.img although it wouldn't really hurt if you did.
gleggie said:
There is nothing special you need to do, just factory wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvik and flash sense. I don't think you need to manually flash the boot.img although it wouldn't really hurt if you did.
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much appreciated, gonna give it a try
There's a tool called CleanWipe you can use. I don't think it matters that you are on aosp but I did pose the question in the thread just in case. I'm thinking of trying an aosp ROM myself so I'd like to be certain as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562176
feralicious said:
There's a tool called CleanWipe you can use. I don't think it matters that you are on aosp but I did pose the question in the thread just in case. I'm thinking of trying an aosp ROM myself so I'd like to be certain as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562176
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I just went straight to aosp from sense to begin with. Just wipe the usuals and flash away

How do I install 23 toggles?

Hi. I am using NeatROM lite 4.8. I downloaded the 23 toggles zip file (XWLSW_Stock_23Toggles_BS.zip). How do I install it? My first thought was to just install the zip from the external sd card in Recovery like I did with the ROM, but I thought I'd better ask first, in case that's wrong or I miss a step. Sorry for seeming stupid, but like most beginners, I am afraid of a big screw-up (for beginners, every screw-up seems to be a near-fatal :crying and so need to be very literal and follow precise steps. Later on, I hope I can make the intuitive leaps and guesses like more experienced folks.
I should also ask how to remove or go back to normal NeatROM lite if something goes horribly wrong.
corvus.corax said:
Hi. I am using NeatROM lite 4.8. I downloaded the 23 toggles zip file (XWLSW_Stock_23Toggles_BS.zip). How do I install it? My first thought was to just install the zip from the external sd card in Recovery like I did with the ROM, but I thought I'd better ask first, in case that's wrong or I miss a step. Sorry for seeming stupid, but like most beginners, I am afraid of a big screw-up (for beginners, every screw-up seems to be a near-fatal :crying and so need to be very literal and follow precise steps. Later on, I hope I can make the intuitive leaps and guesses like more experienced folks.
I should also ask how to remove or go back to normal NeatROM lite if something goes horribly wrong.
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-for install it u have to go in recovery mode and than flash it like a rom (install zip or something similar)
-for return stock you have 2 way:
1) find a .zip that restore the stock theme
2) re-flash rom without wipe
tiaz92 said:
-for install it u have to go in recovery mode and than flash it like a rom (install zip or something similar)
-for return stock you have 2 way:
1) find a .zip that restore the stock theme
2) re-flash rom without wipe
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thanks, I'll do this. question about reverting to the stock theme: why would one NOT wipe the cache before reflashing the ROM? Or should one wipe it after the re-install? I wiped the cache and dalvik cache after I originally put on NeatROM.
He means no wipe as in factory reset. All your data is lost if you do this so to not wipe is better for you. To wipe cache and dalv cache you wont loose data. I think one needs to read more then one would be better with one's android device.
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andrewwright said:
He means no wipe as in factory reset. All your data is lost if you do this so to not wipe is better for you. To wipe cache and dalv cache you wont loose data. I think one needs to read more then one would be better with one's android device.
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Thank you for the clarification because wipe could mean cache wipe, dalvik cache wipe or factory reset. I would only do a factory reset as a last resort.
The toggles are installed now and I really like having them and being able to re-order them. It really amazes me that with all the useful and practical mods people here have done that more are not natively included from Android or the phone manufacturers. It's not like they lack talent or imagination ... is it ?
There are sooo many talented people on xda I wonder why Sam don't offer people jobs to do it for them. If you think that mod is good keep looking there is some amazing mods on here. Most do it for fun!! Sam devs should look at xda and hold there head in shame. :thumbup:
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