Okay, i've read the very informative thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064894&page=9
But am unable to post there, being a noob. So, here goes. My question has been answered already, but only partially. After a debrand, can the handset subsequently have the software updated routinely via Kies as it becomes available from Samsung?
The reason I say it has been partially answered already is because people are saying 'Yes, we will make the software available.' I need to know that it can be done via the normal route via Kies so that if I sell the handset on the new owner doesn't need to go searching for files to download and then have to do anything other than what they would have to do with a stock unbranded handset.
Cheers in advance.
Yes, once debranded (using stock firmware) you will be able to get updates by Kies. Though, personally I would do it manually using ODIN and the latest firmware from samfirmware - you can search this forum for both.
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Okay, i've read the very informative thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064894&page=9
But am unable to post there, being a noob. So, here goes. My question has been answered already, but only partially. After a debrand, can the handset subsequently have the software updated routinely via Kies as it becomes available from Samsung?
True answer is probably but not 100% when you change codes its always possible that Kies has no matching firmware for the codes your phone has after changing firmware .
You will get a number of posters saying yes no problem thats rather misleading as many have problems getting a Kies upgrade and my debrand resulted in no further Kies updates . ( not that i would use Kies anyway )
You can save original firmware via the branded providers roms post or use CHECKFUS to download the original .
jje
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Hello,
This being my first Samsung phone, I'm a bit in the unknown, as far as official software updates are concerned.
I know that Kies is the tool to use if you want to stay official, however, when I tried it on mine, I got an "this version of the device cannot be updated". I'm currently running a variant of XWKE2 (PDA: KE2, PHONE:KDJ, CSC: KD4 (VVT)), which I've have bought it from a carrier here (Bulgaria -> Eastern Europe), it doesn't appear to be excessively branded, or at least has no logos/apps that would indicate this. And it seems that XWKE7 is the current official release.
Now, my first question is, why am I getting this message. Assuming Samsung is providing different updates to different parts of the EU, shouldn't I at least be getting a "You are running the latest version"? Will I ever get an official update, and will I have to wait for all of them?
Now, I'm considering using Odin to move to XWKE7. But I'd also like to receive updates via Kies, and searching through this forum is giving me mixed results on whether using Odin breaks this. Some people say that once Odin is used, the path to Kies is closed. Since those are different conversations with different contexts, I'm not sure whether the same answer will apply in my case as well.
urandom said:
Hello,
This being my first Samsung phone, I'm a bit in the unknown, as far as official software updates are concerned.
I know that Kies is the tool to use if you want to stay official, however, when I tried it on mine, I got an "this version of the device cannot be updated". I'm currently running a variant of XWKE2 (PDA: KE2, PHONE:KDJ, CSC: KD4 (VVT)), which I've have bought it from a carrier here (Bulgaria -> Eastern Europe), it doesn't appear to be excessively branded, or at least has no logos/apps that would indicate this. And it seems that XWKE7 is the current official release.
Now, my first question is, why am I getting this message. Assuming Samsung is providing different updates to different parts of the EU, shouldn't I at least be getting a "You are running the latest version"? Will I ever get an official update, and will I have to wait for all of them?
Now, I'm considering using Odin to move to XWKE7. But I'd also like to receive updates via Kies, and searching through this forum is giving me mixed results on whether using Odin breaks this. Some people say that once Odin is used, the path to Kies is closed. Since those are different conversations with different contexts, I'm not sure whether the same answer will apply in my case as well.
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A very good post and some very good questions. I debranded my phone recently but since doing so I can't seem to update to KE7 in kies as I expected to. I wish I'd never bothered now as I've not really gained anything. I just want to update to KE7 to make the most of improved battery performance. Is there a way to do this via odin?
Just flash the XWKE7 ROM through Odin?
It doesn't really matter if you get official updates or not, within 1-2 days of an official ROM being released there is usually a repack of some sort posted here.
my 2c
But does that mean that if I flash the KE7 via Odin, I will never again be able to upgrade via Kies? Or will I be able to work with Kies again, if I find and flash my particular firmware (which isn't present in the list here, so I won't have it)
Then maybe root it with CF-Root, and do a nandroid backup of everything?
Don't know about Kies not working, it shouldn't matter I would think....
Micksta said:
Just flash the XWKE7 ROM through Odin?
It doesn't really matter if you get official updates or not, within 1-2 days of an official ROM being released there is usually a repack of some sort posted here.
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Micksta, if I want to flash the XWKE7 Rom through Odin do I have to be very particular which one I use? My phone was purchased online through a 3rd party company. Even so, it was locked and branded to Three. Since debranding it my firmware now shows as PDA:KDD / PHONE:KDH / CSC:KD1 (XEU) in Kies.
Kies wont now look for updates as a result so it appears I wasted my time.
Any info on where I can find the right XWKE7 rom for my SGSII would be gratefully received.
RedAl said:
Micksta, if I want to flash the XWKE7 Rom through Odin do I have to be very particular which one I use? My phone was purchased online through a 3rd party company. Even so, it was locked and branded to Three. Since debranding it my firmware now shows as PDA:KDD / PHONE:KDH / CSC:KD1 (XEU) in Kies.
Flash stock KE7 with XEU CSC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Product code on phone defines Kies upgrade or not .
jje
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JJEgan said:
RedAl said:
Micksta, if I want to flash the XWKE7 Rom through Odin do I have to be very particular which one I use? My phone was purchased online through a 3rd party company. Even so, it was locked and branded to Three. Since debranding it my firmware now shows as PDA:KDD / PHONE:KDH / CSC:KD1 (XEU) in Kies.
Flash stock KE7 with XEU CSC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Product code on phone defines Kies upgrade or not .
jje
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So what you're saying is that regardless of the region from where the phone was purchased, or to whom it was originally branded, if we use the XWKE7 update with the XEU CSC, Kies will still work afterwards, and I can get future updates from it?
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urandom said:
JJEgan said:
So what you're saying is that regardless of the region from where the phone was purchased, or to whom it was originally branded, if we use the XWKE7 update with the XEU CSC, Kies will still work afterwards, and I can get future updates from it?
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No the updates from Kies depend upon the product code on your phone .
Kies finds that product code in firmware bank and updates if later.
All i can say is some claim to upgrade firmware of a flashed stock rom via Kies . I have never managed that in the last year of trying .Update with original product codes yes stock never .
Their is a relevant post in dev section .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110160
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Updating this with an answer to my question, in case anyone else is wondering.
After flashing a stock samsung fw with a different CSC (mine was VVT, I picked XEU), unless you do a factory reset, the CSC will not change.
At first, Kies displayed the same message, that it couldn't update the fw on this phone. I removed it's registry entries for my phone, and after that it said that the phone was up-to-date. That may not be necessary however, since on another computer which was also connected to my phone at some point, the Kies automatically recognized that the software was up-to-date.
All in all, Kies will recognize your phone for future updates through it, if you flash a stock samsung fw with Odin.
Micksta said:
Then maybe root it with CF-Root, and do a nandroid backup of everything?
Don't know about Kies not working, it shouldn't matter I would think....
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Hi Micksta,
I have problem rooting my SGS2 (PDA:KF3 / PHONE:KE7 / CSC:KF1 (DBT). Do you any idea how to do it? I tried using Odin/superoneclick but no luck. superoneclick hangs.
Thank you.
Hey guys samsung stated ages ago that all UK unlocked phones can receive the ICS 4.0.3 update through Kies, I seem to be the only one who still cannot update through kies message still says your device cannot update through kies, I have rung samsung support and gave them all my detials numbers firmware numbers eventually they told me that it was my computers fault and that my phone should update normally through kies even though i have told them i have tried on 3 different computers, so im now asking you guys as a last resort to help, before you guys ask i do have the latest version of kies my phone is NOT rooted has stock firmware never been flashed with a third party here is my phones details,
PDA: I9100XWKH1
CSC: I9100XEUKH1
Phone Baseband: I9100XXKG5
Firmware: 2.3.4
Kernel Version: [email protected] #2
Just update your phone through this website. Use my guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625184
Chris.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA
Chris i think you missunderstood my problem, i do not want to install a custom rom or root my phone i was asking here why my phone cant update through kies when my Code XEU is listed as Official ICS Update,
Ignore his root your phone post Updates do not require root as it would void warranty .
Kies updates your firmware when the phone provider has updated it .
You can use CHECKFUS to check on the server and download directly .
Alternative is to flash stock Samsung roms from XDA posted in General and also in stock rom thread .
Stock Roms .and csc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
jje
Whats the diffrence between stock firmware and the stock i have on my phone right now? i tried checkFUS but no clue what region i should be selecting for my phone, and will flashing with odin void my warrenty?
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Whats the diffrence between stock firmware and the stock i have on my phone right now?
Stock = Samsung other sort is Branded Provider firmware .
i tried checkFUS but no clue what region i should be selecting for my phone
Do you not know where you live ???
, and will flashing with odin void my warrenty
Flashing stock or branded provider roms does not invalidate your warranty .
jje
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lol i know were i live . in the uk, but there are many diffrent versions and i have no clue witch to choose, im still puzzled why my phone wont update?
anyone going to help or am i stuck?
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anyone going to help or am i stuck?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25454743&postcount=4
Try your service provider...
Hi,
I´m in Spain and using Orange. The last time I was able to upgrade my stock ROM, the change came from Orange because they customize it (basically to lock you into using their system). If you choose to stay with a stock ROM, then your service provider may have to supply it and they are a little bit slower than Samsung because they have to add their changes. They usually add quite a bit of "Bloatware" to justify their modifications.
So I rooted my phone and am now using custom ROMs - Resurrection Remix 1.1 and am really glad to be rid of the Orange system. I also unlocked my phone so that I could use SIMs from other countries. Hopefully this will prove helpful....
Hi, quijote1, my phone is unlocked and unbranded so i am not tied with any network in the uk or have any bloatware as far as i know it is a standard rom,
Hey ZacQ8, As i previously stated in my OP my CSC is XEU, witch has been rolled out by samsung through kies that's why i have made this post in the first place.
could my problem be my firmware version? and is flashing with odin my only way now of getting ICS for my phone?
hey guys any idea';s?
No one has an awnser?...
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No one has an awnser?...
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You are making an assumption that ICS is available for your actual phone . That may be wrong .
You can use CHECKFUS to actually see if the ICS for your phone is on the Kies server .
Alternatives take the phone to the vendor/Samsung service for an update .
Join XDA Developers forum and flash stock Samsung roms on the day they are released .
You have no other routes except to ask Samsung /your phones vendor why you have no update .
jje
Hi there i got my fone 5 days ago and as soon as i got it i checked to see if there was any software updates thru check for updates and there was ics any so i don't understand how urs ent come yet i dent do it thru kies
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA
may i know malaysian s2g can update to ics??
still confused myself as XEU is released so ICS should be avalible through my phone and i dont wanna flash samsung roms myself just incase i brick/invalid my warrenty, i guess the only way is to take it to a samsung repair shop but dosent that mean i have to pay for the update when others get it for free?, just frustrating, is there anyone here who can sugest the correct ICS rom for the Code XEU?
update: ive found my product code and there is a ICS firmware on checkfus do i download it is it the right one? and if so why dosent kies see my phone as a possible update?
Sabsack said:
update: ive found my product code and there is a ICS firmware on checkfus do i download
UP to you your choice .
it is it the right one?
Who knows you put the codes in correct then presume so if not its easy to tell once flashed .
and if so why dosent kies see my phone as a possible update?
You need a clairvoyant or try asking Samsung .
Personally in your shoes i would stick with what you have and not bother updating .
Because the next post you make is probably how do i restore to GB .
jje
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really? is ICS that bad?
Excuse my ignorance on this however I have tried researching the questions I wish to ask and haven't got any further clarification.
I'm currently sporting a GT-I9300 (from Phones4U)on I9300XXLH1 (using the orange network) however the "wifes" puppy decided that he would take 'said' phone for a walk and smashed the screen (not the digitiser).
I have Insurance through Orange care who have agreed to honour the agreement and send me another S3 out today , I can only assume that this will be a branded S3.
I've downloaded Odin 3.04 and have obtained Modem_CWM_I9300XXLH1 file and Im awaiting delivery, however I now have a query which I'm hoping XDA can help me with.
1) Is this the right file to flash to get the operating system back to the international one and will it work?
2) Is there a hardware difference between the International/Unbranded Phones4u S3 and the Orange S3?
3) After I have flashed this ROM, can I use Kies to update the phone normally when Jellybean arrives?
I'm also using quicktap sim which was a pain in the butt to set up so this needs to be taken in to consideration when flashing the phone.
I have attached the ROM I've downloaded just for clarification
Any help, advice, guidance would be greatly appreciated.
LeViZ042 said:
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1) Is this the right file to flash to get the operating system back to the international one and will it work?
2) Is there a hardware difference between the International/Unbranded Phones4u S3 and the Orange S3?
3) After I have flashed this ROM, can I use Kies to update the phone normally when Jellybean arrives?
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Hi,
According your location, sorry for my bad skills in english :'/
So, I will try to help you.
1) No, it's not the right file. You need the full firmware containing apps/modem/csc_informations ...
For United Kingdom, the last one "by Samsung (not Jb leak)" is : PDA I9300XXBLG8 and CSC I9300OXABLG8 (Ice Cream Sandwich).
This file is about 750MB and is available on "sammobile(dot)com" > Firmware and files (I don't know if I can put link to another website here).
2) There are no difference between the Unbranded and Branded phone. Only firmware modification in the branded one and perhaps software Sim-lock by Orange.
3) If you don't "root" your phone with (CF-Root-v6.4 - thanks Chainfire), I think we can receive update from Kies. But if it's no possible, you can download Jelly Bean from the Internet and flash your phone using Odin of course.
Thanks
Thankyou for the response,
would you happen to have a link or the file that I require for the flash , I did a bit of searching last night and the one I got was the the one shown , however if you have links or know a better one I'd appreciate the information.
Thanks again
LeViZ042 said:
Thankyou for the response,
would you happen to have a link or the file that I require for the flash , I did a bit of searching last night and the one I got was the the one shown , however if you have links or know a better one I'd appreciate the information.
Thanks again
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Here, we will find tutorial about "Flashing new firmware on Samsung Galaxy S3" and others not necessary for the moment (don't root your phone if you don't know what is it) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671969
For the last firmware : http://samsung-updates.com/fw/Samsung-Updates.com-GT-I9300_BTU_1_20120806161432_al03it6wa2.zip
And if you don't have ODIN 3.04 : https://androidfirmwares.net/Tools/Download/8
Before flashing your phone, you need install the Galaxy S3 drivers (with Kies for example). Take care : when you use ODIN, Kies must not run on your computer.
cheers
thanks you I'm downloading the files now,
I assume that it I use kies already then my laptop with have my device drivers already (or do I need to re-download them)?
I know about Rooting I'm just not really wanted to do it
Many thanks for the help
LeViZ042 said:
thanks you I'm downloading the files now,
I assume that it I use kies already then my laptop with have my device drivers already (or do I need to re-download them)?
I know about Rooting I'm just not really wanted to do it
Many thanks for the help
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If you already use Kies, no problem with the drivers. They work.
Best regards
I have read some related threads for " Your Device does not support software updating via kies"
I am getting this issue.
I recently got a branded phone from orange after having a unbranded phones4u (the unbranded one was smashed and Orange replaced it with orange care) my concern was they the branded phone would be full of bloatware etc etc, so i came to XDA earlier in the week and I got some advice about Odin & flashing the attached stock ROM (I9300XXBLG_i9300XABLG8_I9300xxLH1_home.tar.md5) this seemed to go through very smoothly after following the XDA guide.
the S3 is now showing up as I9300XXLH1 which was the same as my Unbranded phone , however now Kies is being a bit of a bell-end and bring up the following message on the connection screen "Your Device does not support software updating via kies". after reading some related threads it would seem that the general consensus is that Kies is in fact a bit of a liability and its best to update via Odin.
This I don't mind doing, but as a bit of Noob , I'm a little confused over where to get a guide on which firmware in the UK will work. I'm not wanting to go for any the custom ROMs (Yet, I want to get used to flashing stock ROM's first) is there a website which gives you update on new stock firmware (for I9300 & I9100)that can be flashed (ie taking the place of Kies , so to speak.
Also I noticed that the Kies Back-up program doesn't work , it doesn't seem to work with any phone, I've tried reinstalling etc etc but it still doesn't work, I've tried Mobile Go which is okay but doesn't seem to backup user settings etc etc. I've heard of titanium but I don't want to Root at the moment is there any alternative?
has anyone got a link for relevant Stock firmware for Jellybean for I9300 UK & I9100
Thanks in advance
has anyone got a link for relevant Stock firmware for Jellybean for I9300 UK & I9100
Why would they JB has not been released for the UK .
JB is Poland only as per thread in General section.
You have changed the firmware and phone now presents wrong codes to KIES .
jje
Thanks
Thanks for the quick response,
I had assumed that changing the firmware would perhaps invalidate the connection to kies updates , my question was for someone in the know to point me in the right direction for ROM catalogue (of sorts) as being new to to this I'm apprehensive about putting the incorrect firmware on to the phone/s.
JB issue - noted.
Thanks
Roms
CHECKFUS is best download and flash via Odin genuine Samsung server firmware .
Or XDA General thread stock roms.
Or Sammobile.com
Or
http://live.samsung-updates.com/index.php?device=GT-I9300
jje
Hi, i have a Galaxy s3 runing android 4.1.2, iv'e been trying to update it to 4.3 via kies, but i keep getting the message "your device's current firmware version is not supported to update firmware via kies". iv'e searched the problem over the web and i could not figure out the main reason for this. I noticed the main cause was the CSC and phone salse code didnt match. My CSC is I9300OJVEMA1, and as for the phone sales code-i don't know how to find it. ill be gratefull to anyone who could just explain and simplify the meaning of the codes and how to solve this problem as i could not understand from the different answeres over the web.
Thanks in advance
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Learn to use the search function before making threads. Download a firmware and flash via odin. Explained here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922461
You will need stock firmware available from www.sammobile.com . Doesnt matter which country's you flash. CSC and PDA codes change by version as far as i know.
Thank you for your reply. i am aware of the search function but as i said, i wasn't sure if this was the right thing to do. once i flash any of the firmware, will i be able to update via kies normally?
shaiko said:
Thank you for your reply. i am aware of the search function but as i said, i wasn't sure if this was the right thing to do. once i flash any of the firmware, will i be able to update via kies normally?
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That is not 100% that Kies or OTA will recognize firmware ,see multiple identical questions .