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Does anyone use Green power or Juice defender app on thunderbolt, and if so is it really saving battery life and are they working ok .
I couldn't ever get juice defender to work.
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All those apps... Battery, Task Managers, etc are nothing but a farce. Fundraisers.
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I believe that both work from my experiences. I have both but only tried Green Power on the TB. I am still determining how well it works for the TB. I used GP with the Incredible and I was quite pleased. I have the paid version and it allows for night profiles which is nice. The difference for me between JD and GP was ease of use- both are very good and very tweakable but GP was about as simple as it gets.
I will have to give that a try which one do u reccomend
I've been using juice defender for a while now and it works great. It basically just turns off your data while the screen is off, except for every 15 minutes (or whatever you define) it turns on and checks for push notifications. saves me a lot of battery life. I tried green power but I was having some issues with data not being turned back on after I turned the screen back on. DroidTh3ory - I agree that task killers are unnecessary fundraisers, but these data switching apps have a genuine use and do work.
Try super power. It's the same as juice defender. Works great.
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Dg 3 said:
I couldn't ever get juice defender to work.
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Me neither. It got an error every time I tried to run it after getting my parameters set up.
i use green power pro and its great.
Green Power did not work well with my TB for some reason. Once I turn the screen on, I lost WiFi and Mobile Network, and could not get it back unless I rebooted the phone. Tried Juice Defender Beta, and it works much, much better. The latest release of JD Beta even fixed whatever TB issues it had, which was why I uninstalled JD Beta in the first place in favor of GP.
I don't have a thunderbolt, but I love green power. I started off with Juice Defender and found the free version way too limiting. If you want proof that green power works, run juice plotter with it for a day. With juice plotter, you can clearly see 3G being turned on and off at exactly the times you specify and the resulting increase to your battery life.
Anyone having issues with Juice Defender should download the "Juice Defender Beta" version from the market. It worked for me.
Currently using JuiceDefender on the ThunderBolt. They finally fix the problem with the ThunderBolt on the last release. Is working VERY good so far today. I'm at 11hrs/22%. I had 3 may be 30mins calls today, two 15mins video calls and normal txt, web browsing.
ran both of em, the one that was kinda cool and shut of wifi and data when inactive was nice, other than that they kinda blow. To be honest all you need is a nice all that can find detect the brightness arround you and adjust the screen accordingly, for me it's what is sucking up my batt.
Coming from a BB, I discorved there was a light sensor on the storm in the LED area. In the engineer settings that you could get too by some special combo which some1 made a keygento access it. *Hidden dev section they locked it out w/ a time sensitve code* It measured the light in lux, if the tbolt has something like this it would be nice or have the front faceing cam turn on in the background for the shortest time possible *under a sec* to measure the light every XX seconds.
Had Juice Defender with Ultimate Juice on my Thunderbolt and it kept stopping on its own without me knowing. Switched to Green Power Pro and it works flawlessly with my Thunderbolt and yes, I do get better battery life while using it. Just sometimes you need to turn it off to be able to download data. Hope this helps.
Juicedefender didnt work for me until yesterday...it updated and has worked great since
have tried green power and juice defender on mt4g..really the only thing that matters is that they stop data from being collected and used all the time...both work well, i like green power better because its far more simple..but for someone who wants to tweak to the optimum level, juice defender has more settings...
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ran both of em, the one that was kinda cool and shut of wifi and data when inactive was nice, other than that they kinda blow. To be honest all you need is a nice all that can find detect the brightness arround you and adjust the screen accordingly, for me it's what is sucking up my batt.
Coming from a BB, I discorved there was a light sensor on the storm in the LED area. In the engineer settings that you could get too by some special combo which some1 made a keygento access it. *Hidden dev section they locked it out w/ a time sensitve code* It measured the light in lux, if the tbolt has something like this it would be nice or have the front faceing cam turn on in the background for the shortest time possible *under a sec* to measure the light every XX seconds.
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the thunderbolt has a light sensor too, but i have no idea if its possible to access its settings to adjust screen brightness.
Hey here is what i do....... Morning i charge till 100%..... Then use some internet(EDGE) by the end of nyt (sme tyms i charge in between for some time) battery goes to 19% and when i wake up i see my phone turned off
Its like my ace likes to have more juice in less tym
Can any tell me whats happening???
I use juice defender.... I am on stock rom(asian) 2.2.1 with firmware updated via kies
I think you have a problem with your apps. One of them (or more) use your battery even if your phone is on sleep mode.
Look at what apps are running in the background.
Maybe you will have to recalibrate your battery.
Reyoth said:
I think you have a problem with your apps. One of them (or more) use your battery even if your phone is on sleep mode.
Look at what apps are running in the background.
Maybe you will have to recalibrate your battery.
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Is there any app to monitor that? At present android booster seesmic facebook gmail avg antivirus and juice defender are running
samsung galaxy ace android newbiee
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.advancedprocessmanager&feature=related_apps
Look at the apps that use a lot of your CPU's ressource.
Notice that I have never used this app but I hope that will help you.
If you don't see anything strange, try to recalibrate your battery with this :
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&feature=search_result
Galaxy ace battery problem
Hey.. I had the same problem.. You just need to calibrate your battery.. Also don't use juice defender in balanced profile.. customise it according to your needs.. This worked for me...
Just picked this up for my girlfriend. I currently have an Incredible, rooted with CM. She will not (or at least I havent convinced her to) let me root at this point.
What are some ways/apps to help manage the battery?? Connecting to Wifi at work will help the 3G/4G search drain but I need to take it further.
I'm looking for all suggestions, from sync setup to brightness setup to animations to apps.
Set the screen to automatically turn off after 15-30 seconds, use the LTE on/off app to disable 4G by forcing 3G only unless you need the extra speed (assuming you even have 4G where you are), don't use dynamic themes, limit how often apps sync data, set the screen brightness to automatic, and use a task killer to manually kill (don't use auto-kill unless there is an auto-kill whitelist as most apps don't need it) stubborn apps that want to constantly run in the background.
If and when she is willing to let you root it, then use SetCPU to underclock when the screen is off and freeze (or rename) the built in apps that she doesn't use as many of them will not only run on boot but will keep reloading themselves if killed.
Using all of that, I can get over 30 hours on standby assuming fairly light usage (a few hours of talking via bluetooth). Of course, with heavy usage (such as with streaming video like the tv.com or epix apps) the battery life is much lower.
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Just picked this up for my girlfriend. I currently have an Incredible, rooted with CM. She will not (or at least I havent convinced her to) let me root at this point.
What are some ways/apps to help manage the battery?? Connecting to Wifi at work will help the 3G/4G search drain but I need to take it further.
I'm looking for all suggestions, from sync setup to brightness setup to animations to apps.
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Use juice defender from the market to turn off 4G while the screen is off. This added about 4 hours of battery life to my phone, standard battery.
Juice defender and green power are both great apps. As far as killing tasks, I've read that killing tasks can actually decrease your battery life because of how android handles the tasks and ram.
Androids tries to keep as many apps in ram to make loading faster, and if you kill all apps, the system will start loading them again, using more of your cpu, therefore decreasing barry life and slowing the phone down. Android had a very good and smart task manager built in to the os.
That is my understanding. If I am wrong, please correct me.
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If you can't root, the next best option is a spare or extended battery. Apps like Juice Defender help a little, but no software can replace a real battery. I used JD until I bought some batteries on ebay.
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Tell her to either let you root it, or you will sell the TB and get her a WP7 phone...
orkillakilla said:
Juice defender and green power are both great apps. As far as killing tasks, I've read that killing tasks can actually decrease your battery life because of how android handles the tasks and ram.
Androids tries to keep as many apps in ram to make loading faster, and if you kill all apps, the system will start loading them again, using more of your cpu, therefore decreasing barry life and slowing the phone down. Android had a very good and smart task manager built in to the os.
That is my understanding. If I am wrong, please correct me.
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It can, but there are also quite a few apps that will keep consuming lots of CPU cycles in the background. Some games are like this as well as some of the video streaming apps.
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It can, but there are also quite a few apps that will keep consuming lots of CPU cycles in the background. Some games are like this as well as some of the video streaming apps.
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This is true. Autostarts (in the market) prevents such apps from running in the background & draining battery.
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my phone is rooted, bloat removed, cm7 installed - i had this weird issue last night where i was charged up to 100% went to bed and phone was dead in the AM. apparently it died about 5 hours in. I looked at the battery info and saw that nothing was running, but the phone kept going "awake" intermittently. Looking at spare parts for the detailed abttery info i didn;'t see anything that was holding wake locks...
Not sure what the issue was. Doesn't seem to be happening anymore
elpeterson said:
Just picked this up for my girlfriend. I currently have an Incredible, rooted with CM. She will not (or at least I havent convinced her to) let me root at this point.
What are some ways/apps to help manage the battery?? Connecting to Wifi at work will help the 3G/4G search drain but I need to take it further.
I'm looking for all suggestions, from sync setup to brightness setup to animations to apps.
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Turn off wifi when its not available.. scanning for it can drain your battery quite a lot. Obviously turn 4g seach off if you are not near a 4g area. I have my screen turned down to about 30-40% and it stays there(its quite bright at that % anyways). Dont use any task killing programs.. android OS has a very nifty task killer program on it already where it prioritizes what tasks stay running or don't. I have heard good things about juice defender you might want to check it out. Turn off sync for all apps and put the manual sync widget on your screen and that will also save some battery. Those should help some but a big one which killed my battery before I rooted was the bloatware apps that HTC puts on the phone. Blockbuster runs something in the background that will kill your battery. It is called PMVtpServiceStart force stop it in running processes and open up blockbuster then install the latest update and then force close it again and blockbuster. That should stop it from running. However you have to do this every time you reboot. Those are all my suggestions.. maybe buy a car charger if you drive a lot. I have one and its nifty to just plug it in whenever I drive to get a little bit more power! Good luck on your phone. PM me if you have any more questions.
i loved juice defender and used to recommend it to everyone, but a week or so ago, i had an issue to where my 3G stopped working altogether. I could still turn my 4G on, and force 3G to come on to check for software updates, but then it would go back off. After 24 hrs of no 3G, i uninstalled Juice defender, and after a couple of reboots, 3G came back on.
I guess there is no way to prove for sure if it was juice defender, but i feel that it was. If you are willing to take the risk, i was able to get 1.6 to 1.8 times more battery life out of juice defender.
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my phone is rooted, bloat removed, cm7 installed - i had this weird issue last night where i was charged up to 100% went to bed and phone was dead in the AM. apparently it died about 5 hours in. I looked at the battery info and saw that nothing was running, but the phone kept going "awake" intermittently. Looking at spare parts for the detailed abttery info i didn;'t see anything that was holding wake locks...
Not sure what the issue was. Doesn't seem to be happening anymore
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might be a problem with the charging cable, and the phone would connect and disconnect and so it would wake constantly, had this before
yisroelg1 said:
might be a problem with the charging cable, and the phone would connect and disconnect and so it would wake constantly, had this before
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It wasn't plugged in at the time.
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i loved juice defender and used to recommend it to everyone, but a week or so ago, i had an issue to where my 3G stopped working altogether. I could still turn my 4G on, and force 3G to come on to check for software updates, but then it would go back off. After 24 hrs of no 3G, i uninstalled Juice defender, and after a couple of reboots, 3G came back on.
I guess there is no way to prove for sure if it was juice defender, but i feel that it was. If you are willing to take the risk, i was able to get 1.6 to 1.8 times more battery life out of juice defender.
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can juice defender control 4g?
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can juice defender control 4g?
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i'm not sure, i typically had my 4g turned off unless i had a big download or was streaming/using mobile hotspot. It would automatically shut the 3G off when the screen was locked, but then one day the 3G just wouldn't come back on. I went into the wireless network settings and flipped the LTE back on, and that worked fine. With my work, I am in/out of 3G-4G coverage, so having just 4G is unacceptable. After uninstalling juice defender and restarting several times, it came back on. Could have been a coincidence, could have been the MR2 radio, could have been a combo, i don't know.
Does the TB continue to search for 4G when the screen is off? Or does the 4G only drain your battery when you're actually connected to it?
ok someone pls give me the best way to gain battery life, phone is almost as it came out of the box, not rooted or anything yet... using 2.3.3 still....
any suggestions would be amazing
Thanks
One turn phone OFF .
Two read the millions of battery posts on here .
jje
Install any 2.3.4 rom to get a major battery life boost. Also get Juice Defender (preferably Juice Defender Ultimate) and set it up to your needs.
With this I can do 2,5 days with one charge and regular browsing/texting/etc.
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prodygee said:
Install any 2.3.4 rom to get a major battery life boost. Also get Juice Defender (preferably Juice Defender Ultimate) and set it up to your needs.
With this I can do 2,5 days with one charge and regular browsing/texting/etc.
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any chance you could details your settings in Juice Defender and any other tweaks you have done to get that battery life and I have JD and 2.3.4 and get about 14 hours max...!!
I have hand cent as my default sms/mms app and juice defender running to save battery. When i'm on wi-fi at home, and I try to send a mms, I have to manually enable 4G data to send the picture. Is there any way to set either hand cent or juice defender to trigger the 4g when sending? It does trigger 4g when I use the stock messaging app.
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Goinflyn
Ditch juice defender you are using more battery reconnecting to data and it causes wake locks
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goinflyn said:
I have hand cent as my default sms/mms app and juice defender running to save battery. When i'm on wi-fi at home, and I try to send a mms, I have to manually enable 4G data to send the picture. Is there any way to set either hand cent or juice defender to trigger the 4g when sending? It does trigger 4g when I use the stock messaging app.
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Goinflyn
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You should try maybe using battery guru or not running a power saving app at all and getting your setup better dialed in. In a whole lot of cases I've seen people remove juice defender and make a few tweaks and get better battery life without it than they did with it.
That being said, does MMS work over handcent when on a wifi connection if you remove juice defender from the equation? A lot of people have seen that problem without juice defender so I was just wondering if you had recently tried removing juice defender to make sure it does what you're looking for without it.
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You should try maybe using battery guru or not running a power saving app at all and getting your setup better dialed in. In a whole lot of cases I've seen people remove juice defender and make a few tweaks and get better battery life without it than they did with it.
That being said, does MMS work over handcent when on a wifi connection if you remove juice defender from the equation? A lot of people have seen that problem without juice defender so I was just wondering if you had recently tried removing juice defender to make sure it does what you're looking for without it.
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No it dosent. Only sms over WiFi. I can't send pics over WiFi on Verizon. I have to manually enable the 4g to send a picture. I'm going to try to forgo juice defender and see what happens.