Basically looking for an update as to whether anyone has rooted without increasing the flash counter. I see people refering to a thread saying it roots without increasing the counter, but it says in the OP of that thread that it does increase flash counter (and that particular OP is extremely vague).
So just looking for an update from someone more experienced with Samsung phones and this flashcounter stuff. Thanks in advance.
+1. I just came from the epic 4g touch and over there the issue was resolved with a usb jig. Also ,i believe there was an app developed that would do it.
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system root doesn't increase the flash counter, I have mine rooted, superuser and busybox installed , and 0 in my flash counter.
download from the top link and follow these steps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22920576&postcount=87
roloracer said:
system root doesn't increase the flash counter, I have mine rooted, superuser and busybox installed , and 0 in my flash counter.
download from the top link and follow these steps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22920576&postcount=87
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As I said I am new to the whole Odin thing. I was under the impression flashing anything with Odin would increase the counter, this is not the case? What does increase the counter then?
If you want root and not increase flash counter use that method @roloracer mentions. That's what I used and it was easy.
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As I said I am new to the whole Odin thing. I was under the impression flashing anything with Odin would increase the counter, this is not the case? What does increase the counter then?
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is not odin that increases the flash counter, cause if samsung would release an update and you wanted to flash from the pc and not from ota update , it wouldn't increase the flash counter, custom kernels/roms/recoveries do , but for some reason the system root doesn't, I still haven't decided if I'm going to say screw the counter, I probably would have if there was more roms to try out, but I'm going to be patient until a stable cm7 or ics rom is out.
Thanks for this. Whats the downside to flashing this instead of the other ?
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pathtologos said:
Thanks for this. Whats the downside to flashing this instead of the other ?
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nothing except you can't overclock past the 1.5ghz since you still have the stock kernel, but you can use any rooting app, and use setcpu with a performance scaling to throttle the cpu to the max or lower it to save battery. Once you use a custom kernel the flash counter will trip.
Big thanks rolo, this was very informative.
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Big thanks rolo, this was very informative.
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no problem, glad to help in anyway possible.
Damn really want to oc. ..lol. Anyone have a prediction on whether we'll see a way to reset the counter ,like the epic 4g touch ?
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pathtologos said:
Damn really want to oc. ..lol. Anyone have a prediction on whether we'll see a way to reset the counter ,like the epic 4g touch ?
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yes from what DA_G said there's no point in the development for it until ics is out, so I don't expect the flash counter fix to be available till samsung releases ics update.
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yes from what DA_G said there's no point in the development for it until ics is out, so I don't expect the flash counter fix to be available till samsung releases ics update.
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why not for gingerbread? since i mean it is the current one right now
i really want to flash a rom for spead tweaks and stuff, but seems like flash counter will increase with that
so so far im rooted, flash counter still at zero
SayWhat10 said:
why not for gingerbread? since i mean it is the current one right now
i really want to flash a rom for spead tweaks and stuff, but seems like flash counter will increase with that
so so far im rooted, flash counter still at zero
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I don't have an answer for that, you might have to ask DA_G for that answer, there the ones developing it, not sure why.
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SayWhat10 said:
why not for gingerbread? since i mean it is the current one right now
i really want to flash a rom for spead tweaks and stuff, but seems like flash counter will increase with that
so so far im rooted, flash counter still at zero
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I believe it's because of an existing app (Triangle Away Thread) that works to remove the counter on ICS. DA_G refers to it here (post 49): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504218&page=5
Question related to this topic: I couldn't wait...lol. Flashed the oc kernel through Odin and, of course, my flash count went up. IF I decide to return this phone, do the employees at best buy mobile check the flash count? I know how to restore it to stock so that won't be a problem but we can't reset that flash counter. Anyone have any input?
Thanks!
roloracer said:
is not odin that increases the flash counter, cause if samsung would release an update and you wanted to flash from the pc and not from ota update , it wouldn't increase the flash counter, custom kernels/roms/recoveries do , but for some reason the system root doesn't, I still haven't decided if I'm going to say screw the counter, I probably would have if there was more roms to try out, but I'm going to be patient until a stable cm7 or ics rom is out.
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I think thats what im going to do. My gnote should be here tomorrow and i was going to root right away but there really isnt much point for me at this point with roms to install.
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Question related to this topic: I couldn't wait...lol. Flashed the oc kernel through Odin and, of course, my flash count went up. IF I decide to return this phone, do the employees at best buy mobile check the flash count? I know how to restore it to stock so that won't be a problem but we can't reset that flash counter. Anyone have any input?
Thanks!
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No way. Some guy in another thread said people return phones with CM7 installed. Inside your return window and they don't care.
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Here's what I'd like to do:
Root my phone and go to ICS. However, if I ever have a problem, I want to be able to get the phone back to stock, so my warranty is still good. So, do I root with mashi's method or do I just root with any method and use the reset counter (linked on here somewhere)?
Since I want to install ICS is there any reason to care about the counter and will the reset counter work after installing ICS if I have to go back to stock?
Do I still get the ICS update from AT&T when it comes out? Or is this like jailbreaking (something I'm VERY familiar with), and you just wait until someone comes up with a new custom ROM that has the Suite.
I know these are a lot of questions, but it's all stuff I'm currently researching, and it's not apparent what's the right thing to do (mostly due to this all being kind of new....some of the threads on here are only a month or so old). Anyway, my goal is to get to ICS and be able to get to stock if I ever have to with the least risk possible.
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Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
jameslfc5 said:
Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
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Moved to General. Please don't open threads to ask questions in development.
You can unroot. Stock ROMs exist here which can be flashed via ODIN, and which will remove root. If you are on O2 UK branded ROM, it is also available.
To reset the number of "unsigned" ROMs flashed though, you need to use a USB Jig (which is a resistor and a USB plug).
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064894 for re-branding and unrooting an O2 model, and another thread is somewhere for restoring the stock firmware for a non branded one.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522 to reset the counter in download mode.
jameslfc5 said:
Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
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Current problem with rooting is that there is a counter for number of flashed custom kernels inside the phone. When you root, that number goes up. No info yet on how to reset the counter, so it's possible that it could affect your warranty. (Unlikely, but possible) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522 - Kind of difficult though, hopefully an easier way comes along!
Unrooting would be done by flashing back a stock Samsung kernel/rom.
Advantages to rooting are currently:
1) Removing system apps that you can't remove normally.
2) Run certain apps that require root. (Not many of these, really)
3) Modify the framework.apk which let's you do things like skin some of the UI, such as changing battery meters and that.
RyanZA said:
Current problem with rooting is that there is a counter for number of flashed custom kernels inside the phone. When you root, that number goes up. No info yet on how to reset the counter, so it's possible that it could affect your warranty. (Unlikely, but possible)
Unrooting would be done by flashing back a stock Samsung kernel/rom.
Advantages to rooting are currently:
1) Removing system apps that you can't remove normally.
2) Run certain apps that require root. (Not many of these, really)
3) Modify the framework.apk which let's you do things like skin some of the UI, such as changing battery meters and that.
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Eh? You can reset the counter now mate
Shove a USB Jig from an SGS 1 into the USB port and it should reset and remove the yellow warning, even telling you that a custom kernel is an original binary... See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522
Thanks for your replies everyone
What is the best method to use to root, which is the easiest to reverse?
Thank you so much!
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Thanks for your replies everyone
What is the best method to use to root, which is the easiest to reverse?
Thank you so much!
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One method to root. Thread is stuck on development area.
One method to unroot. Thread is in development. You flash stock rom via odin and then reset counter with a jig
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One method to root. Thread is stuck on development area.
One method to unroot. Thread is in development. You flash stock rom via odin and then reset counter with a jig
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Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
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Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
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You can buy a jig online or make one. It's a single resistor and a usb connector. Solder them together correctly and done
Difficulty to someone with the slightest electronics experience is zero. I'm going to pop one together tomorrow and it will likely take about 4 minutes, most of which waiting on soldering equipment to heat up.
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Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
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I can't find the unroot thread?
Also what is the method to stop Samsung from knowing it has been rooted?
Sorry for all the questions, I am coming for an iPhone and a jailbreak and understand all that perfectly fine, just trying to get my head around android
jameslfc5 said:
I can't find the unroot thread?
Also what is the method to stop Samsung from knowing it has been rooted?
Sorry for all the questions, I am coming for an iPhone and a jailbreak and understand all that perfectly fine, just trying to get my head around android
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Unroot - just flash one of the stock ROMs.
Stop samsung knowing of the flash? It's the "reset counter" thread.
Just a Question...
If i just Root the Stock ROM without flashing any other Custom roms as I can live with stock.. will that have any effect on Flash Counters?.. I dont want to void warranty ...So i can flash stock rom again..
If I flash stock roms.. counters will run or will not be effected?
will not be affected.
I have a question,
I rooted my device and now i have to send it in for service.
I have flashed in a stock rom and reseted the counter but when i check my info in settings it says
[email protected]#2
I have tried with super one click but i only get
Getting model...
GT-I9100
OK 0,03s
Getting version...
XWKF3
OK 0,02s
Not supported!
FAILED
Any ideas how to get rid of the [email protected] in the end of the info?
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I have a question,
I rooted my device and now i have to send it in for service.
I have flashed in a stock rom and reseted the counter but when i check my info in settings it says
[email protected]#2
I have tried with super one click but i only get
Getting model...
GT-I9100
OK 0,03s
Getting version...
XWKF3
OK 0,02s
Not supported!
FAILED
Any ideas how to get rid of the [email protected] in the end of the info?
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That has nothing to do with root on your phone
I'm not sure but I think it is related to the build machine used to build the kernel.
You unroot by downloading the latest official firmware for you region/carrier. If that is done then you're fine.
Ok, since i downloaded the KF3 rom from this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 thread it should be fine to turn the phone in for service, without they come back to me and say my root ruined my menubutton which have stopped working
ringe123 said:
Ok, since i downloaded the KF3 rom from this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 thread it should be fine to turn the phone in for service, without they come back to me and say my root ruined my menubutton which have stopped working
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well, there is a counter counting how many insecure kernels have been downloaded, you need the USB-jig to reset that, but in many cases the service centers doesn't check this at service.
I have already reseted the counter with a usb-jig and i have no yellow triangle or anything like that so it looks like everything is stock exept the kernel version.
hopefully they won´t even check it and repair it under warranty.
Sorry to bump thread. I flashed to stock firmware with odin3 but I think it is still rooted because the unlock tool, which requires phone to be rooted, still works. How do I unroot?
Flash full stock firmware = unroot if used the Chainfire CWM and Root method .
jje
What is "flash one of the stock roms"?
I already rooted my Galaxy S2 now I would like to unroot it (I add certain programs for superuser, so that I would be able to run them as root while unrooted).
What rom should I get? Considering my kernel is XWKDD-CL16 ...
hello all,
i have followed entropy512's thread here to get my at&t samsung galaxy s2 rooted with stock settings...i then wanted clockworkmod recovery so i went to this and followed directions to get everything installed...everything was ok and working until a few weeks ago when the 'Check Update' option under Setting stopped working...
basically what happens is when i goto Settings-> Software Update->Check for updates->Hit OK (Check the AT&T server for new software update?) a dialog comes up that says 'Checking for software updates...' and nothing happens...i have left the phone over night with device management app checking for software updates... when this used to work, it took less than 1 minute to check...
finally, the only way for me to stop this is to go and force stop Device Manager under Applications->All, so before i restore the phone to factory, i was wondering if anyone knows what might be the issue here?
Thanks,
FI
fastindy said:
hello all,
i have followed entropy512's thread here to get my at&t samsung galaxy s2 rooted with stock settings...i then wanted clockworkmod recovery so i went to this and followed directions to get everything installed...everything was ok and working until a few weeks ago when the 'Check Update' option under Setting stopped working...
basically what happens is when i goto Settings-> Software Update->Check for updates->Hit OK (Check the AT&T server for new software update?) a dialog comes up that says 'Checking for software updates...' and nothing happens...i have left the phone over night with device management app checking for software updates... when this used to work, it took less than 1 minute to check...
finally, the only way for me to stop this is to go and force stop Device Manager under Applications->All, so before i restore the phone to factory, i was wondering if anyone knows what might be the issue here?
Thanks,
FI
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The issue is that you're rooted, I wish people would search more
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Nick281051 said:
The issue is that you're rooted, I wish people would search more
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umm this option was working until a few weeks ago and it randomly stopped so im not sure what rooting has to do with it...furthermore, i did search using various permutations of words around the issue at hand, and i did not find threads that addressed this issue...
fastindy said:
umm this option was working until a few weeks ago and it randomly stopped so im not sure what rooting has to do with it...furthermore, i did search using various permutations of words around the issue at hand, and i did not find threads that addressed this issue...
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Being rooted you shouldn't even worry about updates, if you had actually searched you would have seen that
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fastindy said:
umm this option was working until a few weeks ago and it randomly stopped so im not sure what rooting has to do with it...furthermore, i did search using various permutations of words around the issue at hand, and i did not find threads that addressed this issue...
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OTA updates require factory recovery. I'm a bit hazy on the details but I believe CWM, in short, replaces that.
It might also be because you either turned off/uninstalled or inadvertently removed factory bloatware.
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OTA updates require factory recovery. I'm a bit hazy on the details but I believe CWM, in short, replaces that.
It might also be because you either turned off/uninstalled or inadvertently removed factory bloatware.
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This. Amongst other things. If u insist on trying to eventually upgrade to whatever crap gets pushed out to us yer best bet is to do a full wipe to completely stock firmware.
Nick281051 said:
Being rooted you shouldn't even worry about updates, if you had actually searched you would have seen that
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once again, the issue is not weather i should worry about updates or not nor did i search for if i should worry about updates...this option was working and something happened that caused it to stop working...and my searches i did was around getting device management to connect to the dm server (which is where the 'Checking for update' got stuck)
BROKKANIC said:
OTA updates require factory recovery. I'm a bit hazy on the details but I believe CWM, in short, replaces that.
It might also be because you either turned off/uninstalled or inadvertently removed factory bloatware.
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Phalanx7621 said:
This. Amongst other things. If u insist on trying to eventually upgrade to whatever crap gets pushed out to us yer best bet is to do a full wipe to completely stock firmware.
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both of you seem to be spot on...i didnt realize that removing bloatware which was marked as 'ok to remove' on the document of things to remove safely could have been the issue...initially i had frozen them using titanium...neway i restored the phone using the CWM backup i had and the option started working like expected...thanks for the input
I'm curious...why do you want that option to work?
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I'm curious...why do you want that option to work?
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so that i can get ICS when AT&T releases the official one... i know there are leaked versions out there, but i dont mind the wait, especially, from the research, i have found people having issues with various features
fastindy said:
so that i can get ICS when AT&T releases the official one... i know there are leaked versions out there, but i dont mind the wait, especially, from the research, i have found people having issues with various features
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Do you recall all the issues with UCKK6 Gingerbread? That was an AT&T release. The devs had to tear it apart to debug and try to fix it. Any build will have bugs in it. But generally, custom firmwares will have fewer bugs than AT&T firmware.
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Do you recall all the issues with UCKK6 Gingerbread? That was an AT&T release. The devs had to tear it apart to debug and try to fix it. Any build will have bugs in it. But generally, custom firmwares will have fewer bugs than AT&T firmware.
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unfortunately, i joined the android bandwagon only when i got my samsung galaxy s2, which was a little late in the game, so i have no clue on all the start up issues that people experienced with Gingerbread release...
for now ill need to stick with stock/At&T firmware however ill make the switch to custom firmwares when i stop being lazy and create a USB jig for myself...
fastindy said:
for now ill need to stick with stock/At&T firmware however ill make the switch to custom firmwares when i stop being lazy and create a USB jig for myself...
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Why would you need a jig? You're already rooted with CWM.
fastindy said:
so that i can get ICS when AT&T releases the official one... i know there are leaked versions out there, but i dont mind the wait, especially, from the research, i have found people having issues with various features
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I've been running AOKP by Task for a while and have never had a serious issue. The one's I have had were self inflicted and with some reading were quite easy to fix.
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Why would you need a jig? You're already rooted with CWM.
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if my research that i conducted a while ago is right, then basically samsung has implemented a flash counter which increments each time you flash a custom, non-stock rom...it might also be applied to non-stock kernels/firmwares as well (im not too sure)...so to prevent the flash counter from ever incrementing, ill need to put the phone in download mode using the jig and continue from there...
grubby0 said:
I've been running AOKP by Task for a while and have never had a serious issue. The one's I have had were self inflicted and with some reading were quite easy to fix.
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alright thanks, ill check it out
fastindy said:
if my research that i conducted a while ago is right, then basically samsung has implemented a flash counter which increments each time you flash a custom, non-stock rom...it might also be applied to non-stock kernels/firmwares as well (im not too sure)...so to prevent the flash counter from ever incrementing, ill need to put the phone in download mode using the jig and continue from there...
alright thanks, ill check it out
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This is wrong. It is only incremented when you use ODIN to flash nonstock items. CWM has no bearing on flash counters.
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fastindy said:
if my research that i conducted a while ago is right, then basically samsung has implemented a flash counter which increments each time you flash a custom, non-stock rom...it might also be applied to non-stock kernels/firmwares as well (im not too sure)...so to prevent the flash counter from ever incrementing, ill need to put the phone in download mode using the jig and continue from there...
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You have some bad information...but I have some good news for you.
The flash counter only counts the number of times you've flashed a custom kernel in download mode via Odin. Using CWM to flash anything can't touch the flash counter. Same goes for Mobile Odin. I've been rooted and flashing for months, I don't have a jig, and my counter is still at zero.
EDIT: Ninja'd by a pirate!
fastindy said:
unfortunately, i joined the android bandwagon only when i got my samsung galaxy s2, which was a little late in the game, so i have no clue on all the start up issues that people experienced with Gingerbread release...
for now ill need to stick with stock/At&T firmware however ill make the switch to custom firmwares when i stop being lazy and create a USB jig for myself...
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Any GB issues only surfaced if you updated to 2.3.6. 2.3.4 for a "stock" firmware was pretty awesome. I'm on the latest ICS leak from ATT (LD4) and aside from the emmc bug (I'm using a safe kernel so I don't have it) IMHO its more complete then CM9 was. I stopped using CM9 at the end of May and don't miss it at all now.
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alright well i learnt something new today...and now that i have the freedom to flash like a mad man without worrying about flash counter (via CWM), i will surely checkout some of the leaked versions of ICS that you guys are using, and see which one works best for me...thanks for all the new info
fastindy said:
alright well i learnt something new today...and now that i have the freedom to flash like a mad man without worrying about flash counter (via CWM), i will surely checkout some of the leaked versions of ICS that you guys are using, and see which one works best for me...thanks for all the new info
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I reccomend roms that use i9100 bases as they are usually better, roms like phonebricker, and shostock2 are good, my favorite touchwiz based rom though is serendipity 9. But thats my experiences so try them for yourself (i use aokp as my daily though.)
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Remove Triangle and Reset Counter
http://shetalksandroid.blogspot.com/2012/03/how-to-reset-sgs2-flash-counter-and.html
Please read the above link.
I just did it last night and really works!
Time to hit the Thanks button
EDIT:
This not only makes the meter go back to zero, but also removes the yellow triangle, without the JIG.
Thanks to Chainfire, its free! Just read the above link. (And please "Search" more
Hi Everyone I Want To Test ROM's Before Flash ON My PC So Please Help Me
You can't....
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Most roms have a video by TotallyDubbed
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Hi,
Just made a Nandroid backup of your current rom then flash the new rom you want and if something is wrong or you don't like it... just restore your backup...
You can do that for all the rom you want to test, it is much simpler
That way you can really test on your phone... Even if it were possible on a PC, you can imagine that if you could test it on your pc it would not be comparable to test on your phone.
I Read That Triangle Away Is Very Dangerous Is There Another Way To Reset Flash Counter? I Heard That USB Jig Is Not Working For GS3
I Heard That USB Jig Is Not Working For GS3
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It does work, in the way it was intended to do and does across all Galaxy devices; to revive a semi-hardbricked phone by making it enter Download mode.
I Read That Triangle Away Is Very Dangerous
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Everything that flashes ROM's or works on the formatting of the device's internal storage is dangerous. I have yet to see someone who caused his device to hardbrick by using the app according to it's description.
It only modifies a value in the NAND, nothing much that can really go wrong. A risk always exists with all changes and updates.
Is There Another Way To Reset Flash Counter?
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Nope
THE.W!ZARD said:
I Read That Triangle Away Is Very Dangerous Is There Another Way To Reset Flash Counter? I Heard That USB Jig Is Not Working For GS3
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If you're that worried about bricking or avoiding the flash counter... why are you even trying to flash custom roms?
This is a development forum, I'll be the first to admit I have no idea how to develop anything apart from a deep hatred towards in-your-face vegetarians but at least I have a vague idea of what I'm doing, what I can do, and what I really shouldn't even think of doing. I got that from many hours lurking and searching these forums, try it some time.
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spamcakes said:
If you're that worried about bricking or avoiding the flash counter... why are you even trying to flash custom roms?
This is a development forum, I'll be the first to admit I have no idea how to develop anything apart from a deep hatred towards in-your-face vegetarians but at least I have a vague idea of what I'm doing, what I can do, and what I really shouldn't even think of doing. I got that from many hours lurking and searching these forums, try it some time.
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Because Some ROM's Have Better Performance, Fixing Some Bugs And Bringing Early Updates
d4fseeker said:
It does work, in the way it was intended to do and does across all Galaxy devices; to revive a semi-hardbricked phone by making it enter Download mode.
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So To Avoid Risk I Should Buy Jig
THE.W!ZARD said:
Because Some ROM's Have Better Performance, Fixing Some Bugs And Bringing Early Updates
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And you would test all this on a pc how?
It's so ridiculously easy to flash roms these days just flash some and try them out, if nothing bugs you about it tadaa, daily driver.
THE.W!ZARD said:
So To Avoid Risk I Should Buy Jig
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If you do things right you shouldn't need one, I'd say don't buy it till you need it.
THE.W!ZARD said:
So To Avoid Risk I Should Buy Jig
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I would, for 2 bucks you might as well, and then if anything goes wrong you don't have to wait to sort it. Having said that in 2 years of flashing and beta testing I have never needed one.Your choice, but flashing this device is simple if you do the necessary reading and follow the guides
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It's About If I Want To Reset The Flash Counter To Avoid Warranty Lose That's It. I Flash Omega ROM Before And Flashed Stock ROM Again And Reset Flash Counter Using Triangle Away But I Update The Mobile So It's Not To Use.
How To Restore Stock Kernel?
THE.W!ZARD said:
How To Restore Stock Kernel?
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Reflash your rom without wiping data.
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I Really Appreciated Your Help @spamcakes @slaphead20
Just wanted to know how to re-lock the bootloader to return to Verizon for warranty purposes.
I have the stock odin file but want to know would it relock the bootloader itself ? If not how do i do it ?
KgTheraad1 said:
Just wanted to know how to re-lock the bootloader to return to Verizon for warranty purposes.
I have the stock odin file but want to know would it relock the bootloader itself ? If not how do i do it ?
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Just ODIN back to stock and your bootloader will be locked again.
I would check the flash counter also if I was taking it to Verizon. Good news triangle away supports our device now.
yeah I think imnuts had a thread in dev has a tar image that will restore to shipping software
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Thanks guys
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i was wondering the same thing , but i thought you couldn't flash anything in odin once the bootloader was unlocked. Can anyone clarify this I need to do a warranty claim and I need to undo everything to avoid any hassle
pouxonu said:
i was wondering the same thing , but i thought you couldn't flash anything in odin once the bootloader was unlocked. Can anyone clarify this I need to do a warranty claim and I need to undo everything to avoid any hassle
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Youre not supposed to odin anything EXCEPT imnutz odin file to get back to stock. With the bootloader unlock it will let you flash anything. So to be better safe than sorry and help prevent people from flashing what they should be not they said dont flash anything. That way they dont have dozens of people bricking their phones. Ive read in multiple threads and if you search adams thread youll find there is no problem with flashing back to stock with odin.
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OP, did it work? Did you successfully return it? I need to do the same, but if reflashing the stock ROM and triangle-away'ing didn't work, please let me (and others from the future who want to do the same... hello people of the future!...) know what happened for you. Thanks.
I flashed mine back to stock and returned it. No charges yet depending how you rooted your device, your flash counter might be tripped. To check power off, hold up, power and home button. It should say something like:
Custom binary: no
Samsung official
Samsung
0
I can't quite remember without looking it up. If u have any other questions pm me
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Anyone know if it's possible with the new 4.1.2 release?
Breezer23 said:
Anyone know if it's possible with the new 4.1.2 release?
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This is exactly what I was wondering too. I can't believe I haven't found this thread before, shouldn't have started one myself, I guess. My assumption, based on what I've read is that you can still use the imnuts restore after 4.1.2, and that there's no real need to re-lock...but I'm still waiting on a confirmation of that.
Hey all,
Just a very quick question.
Setup:
Unlocked I9300 16GB White on I9300XXEMC2 and rooted with CFTool.
Counter is at 1, naturally. This means that the phone wont check for OTAs. What Im wondering is if I use Triangleaway to clear it to 0 will the phone then check for OTA updates again(pretty sure it will) but more importantly is that safe with CFTool root still applied? Dont want to use triangleaway unnecessarily either as its risky.
Thanks,
Scratchling(Still getting used to this new plaything)
Root means no ota updates if I am not wrong, you could get updates via kies though if firmware and csc are aligned. Updating will result in loss of root though.
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The counter has nothing to do with it checking for ota, in settings under about phone it will say "modified" thats why it wont search for OTA updates.... ive never used kies so cant comment there, I just use XDA to get the most recent updates
Ivw used Triangle Away loads of times with no problems so have many many of people... the warning is just disclaimer.
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Anything you flash to your phone should rightly be treated with caution, if you read and follow the guidance you shouldn't have any problems, but the warning is mainly for people who might not have read anything up to that point and flash the wrong file, bricking their Iphone.
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The counter has nothing to do with it checking for ota, in settings under about phone it will say "modified" thats why it wont search for OTA updates.... ive never used kies so cant comment there, I just use XDA to get the most recent updates
Ivw used Triangle Away loads of times with no problems so have many many of people... the warning is just disclaimer.
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Really its just convenient to not have to manually look and see if theres an update every few weeks.
Went ahead and gave TriangleAway a punt. It reset the counter alright but:
Code:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: GT-I9300
CUSTOM BINARY DOWNLOAD: No
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
So while the flash count is reset it can still tell its non standard. Oh well. Its no biggie, just would have been nice. May not even end up keeping it anyways, still sort of attached to my Xperia S.
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Really its just convenient to not have to manually look and see if theres an update every few weeks.
Went ahead and gave TriangleAway a punt. It reset the counter alright but:
Code:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: GT-I9300
CUSTOM BINARY DOWNLOAD: No
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
So while the flash count is reset it can still tell its non standard. Oh well. Its no biggie, just would have been nice. May not even end up keeping it anyways, still sort of attached to my Xperia S.
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A factory reset will put the status back to normal mate or if you dont want to lose your data go back in triangle away and right at the bottom there is an option to put it to normal I think its called "allow tracker to run"
And make sure you have stock kernel and recovery
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So while the flash count is reset it can still tell its non standard.
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It depends on the bootloader version you have. If it was a JB bootloader (which means you were on JB before you rooted) then every reboot triggers the custom status if you have a custom recovery or kernel.
May I ask, why are you rooted? What I mean by that is - what are your actual requirements?
TB would be the number one reason, followed by the option to underclock and a few other apps that I wont mention here.
I updated to I9300XXEMC2 before rooting so yeah, it would be a JB Bootloader.
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TB would be the number one reason, followed by the option to underclock and a few other apps that I wont mention here.
I updated to I9300XXEMC2 before rooting so yeah, it would be a JB Bootloader.
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If you're using those sorts of functions anyway, I would suggest using CWM recovery to flash de-odexed custom touchwiz ROMs would be a better way. Sure, you have to check for updates manually and download to SD card, but you get the updates quicker this way and also you get better fixes than the official updates, that devs apply themselves and extra functionality.
That was my plan in a month or so, only just got the phone a week ago(free, sammy were dumping stock pre S4 release) so I'm giving stock a shot for a little while to then see what I want in a ROM. Likely go to CM10.1 first.
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That was my plan in a month or so, only just got the phone a week ago(free, sammy were dumping stock pre S4 release) so I'm giving stock a shot for a little while to then see what I want in a ROM. Likely go to CM10.1 first.
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There are a lot of ROM's based on stock too though. There are definitely a lot of Samsung features I'd recommend you check out before going AOSP.
But as far as Stock (Touchwiz) custom ROMs, Wanam Lite is my favourite. Fast, stable and Lite. Good ROM.
Yeah, only ever used Touchwiz on the mothers S2 and for short periods. Not going to dump it until Im sure I wont use its features.
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Yeah, only ever used Touchwiz on the mothers S2 and for short periods. Not going to dump it until Im sure I wont use its features.
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Even as a massive AOSP advocate, I stuck with Touchwiz from between May until only last month. Nearly a year
Only pressing thing is the low ram overhead sometimes(shame they didnt give us 2GB). Thanks for all the feedback anyways
If you use triangle away from the playstore it has a work aeound where it disables supersu for a few minutes at boot allowing you to check for OTA updates
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k6? said:
If you use triangle away from the playstore it has a work aeound where it disables supersu for a few minutes at boot allowing you to check for OTA updates
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Interesting....
Ooooh. Nice! Missed that before. Just tried and it works.
Waiting for SU to return now so I can then disable the option and safely check for OTA(there wont be anything but just as a proof of concept).
OTA check worked.
Swish. Thanks guys, exactly the kind of solution I wanted.
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OTA check worked.
Swish. Thanks guys, exactly the kind of solution I wanted.
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Don't thank us. Thank chainfire.
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Hey lads, two things that are bugging me, thought I'd be better put them here than a new thread:
Screenshots: Over compressed, look terrible, really bad banding at times
Menu capacative button: Activates all the time while typing with left hand, if I hit Y etc it opens the menu so I dont hit the key and instead open up a settings menu
No clear answers from googling, thoughts?