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Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
jameslfc5 said:
Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
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Moved to General. Please don't open threads to ask questions in development.
You can unroot. Stock ROMs exist here which can be flashed via ODIN, and which will remove root. If you are on O2 UK branded ROM, it is also available.
To reset the number of "unsigned" ROMs flashed though, you need to use a USB Jig (which is a resistor and a USB plug).
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064894 for re-branding and unrooting an O2 model, and another thread is somewhere for restoring the stock firmware for a non branded one.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522 to reset the counter in download mode.
jameslfc5 said:
Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
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Current problem with rooting is that there is a counter for number of flashed custom kernels inside the phone. When you root, that number goes up. No info yet on how to reset the counter, so it's possible that it could affect your warranty. (Unlikely, but possible) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522 - Kind of difficult though, hopefully an easier way comes along!
Unrooting would be done by flashing back a stock Samsung kernel/rom.
Advantages to rooting are currently:
1) Removing system apps that you can't remove normally.
2) Run certain apps that require root. (Not many of these, really)
3) Modify the framework.apk which let's you do things like skin some of the UI, such as changing battery meters and that.
RyanZA said:
Current problem with rooting is that there is a counter for number of flashed custom kernels inside the phone. When you root, that number goes up. No info yet on how to reset the counter, so it's possible that it could affect your warranty. (Unlikely, but possible)
Unrooting would be done by flashing back a stock Samsung kernel/rom.
Advantages to rooting are currently:
1) Removing system apps that you can't remove normally.
2) Run certain apps that require root. (Not many of these, really)
3) Modify the framework.apk which let's you do things like skin some of the UI, such as changing battery meters and that.
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Eh? You can reset the counter now mate
Shove a USB Jig from an SGS 1 into the USB port and it should reset and remove the yellow warning, even telling you that a custom kernel is an original binary... See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522
Thanks for your replies everyone
What is the best method to use to root, which is the easiest to reverse?
Thank you so much!
jameslfc5 said:
Thanks for your replies everyone
What is the best method to use to root, which is the easiest to reverse?
Thank you so much!
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One method to root. Thread is stuck on development area.
One method to unroot. Thread is in development. You flash stock rom via odin and then reset counter with a jig
pulser_g2 said:
One method to root. Thread is stuck on development area.
One method to unroot. Thread is in development. You flash stock rom via odin and then reset counter with a jig
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Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
jameslfc5 said:
Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
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You can buy a jig online or make one. It's a single resistor and a usb connector. Solder them together correctly and done
Difficulty to someone with the slightest electronics experience is zero. I'm going to pop one together tomorrow and it will likely take about 4 minutes, most of which waiting on soldering equipment to heat up.
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Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
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I can't find the unroot thread?
Also what is the method to stop Samsung from knowing it has been rooted?
Sorry for all the questions, I am coming for an iPhone and a jailbreak and understand all that perfectly fine, just trying to get my head around android
jameslfc5 said:
I can't find the unroot thread?
Also what is the method to stop Samsung from knowing it has been rooted?
Sorry for all the questions, I am coming for an iPhone and a jailbreak and understand all that perfectly fine, just trying to get my head around android
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Unroot - just flash one of the stock ROMs.
Stop samsung knowing of the flash? It's the "reset counter" thread.
Just a Question...
If i just Root the Stock ROM without flashing any other Custom roms as I can live with stock.. will that have any effect on Flash Counters?.. I dont want to void warranty ...So i can flash stock rom again..
If I flash stock roms.. counters will run or will not be effected?
will not be affected.
I have a question,
I rooted my device and now i have to send it in for service.
I have flashed in a stock rom and reseted the counter but when i check my info in settings it says
[email protected]#2
I have tried with super one click but i only get
Getting model...
GT-I9100
OK 0,03s
Getting version...
XWKF3
OK 0,02s
Not supported!
FAILED
Any ideas how to get rid of the [email protected] in the end of the info?
ringe123 said:
I have a question,
I rooted my device and now i have to send it in for service.
I have flashed in a stock rom and reseted the counter but when i check my info in settings it says
[email protected]#2
I have tried with super one click but i only get
Getting model...
GT-I9100
OK 0,03s
Getting version...
XWKF3
OK 0,02s
Not supported!
FAILED
Any ideas how to get rid of the [email protected] in the end of the info?
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That has nothing to do with root on your phone
I'm not sure but I think it is related to the build machine used to build the kernel.
You unroot by downloading the latest official firmware for you region/carrier. If that is done then you're fine.
Ok, since i downloaded the KF3 rom from this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 thread it should be fine to turn the phone in for service, without they come back to me and say my root ruined my menubutton which have stopped working
ringe123 said:
Ok, since i downloaded the KF3 rom from this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 thread it should be fine to turn the phone in for service, without they come back to me and say my root ruined my menubutton which have stopped working
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well, there is a counter counting how many insecure kernels have been downloaded, you need the USB-jig to reset that, but in many cases the service centers doesn't check this at service.
I have already reseted the counter with a usb-jig and i have no yellow triangle or anything like that so it looks like everything is stock exept the kernel version.
hopefully they won´t even check it and repair it under warranty.
Sorry to bump thread. I flashed to stock firmware with odin3 but I think it is still rooted because the unlock tool, which requires phone to be rooted, still works. How do I unroot?
Flash full stock firmware = unroot if used the Chainfire CWM and Root method .
jje
What is "flash one of the stock roms"?
I already rooted my Galaxy S2 now I would like to unroot it (I add certain programs for superuser, so that I would be able to run them as root while unrooted).
What rom should I get? Considering my kernel is XWKDD-CL16 ...
Basically looking for an update as to whether anyone has rooted without increasing the flash counter. I see people refering to a thread saying it roots without increasing the counter, but it says in the OP of that thread that it does increase flash counter (and that particular OP is extremely vague).
So just looking for an update from someone more experienced with Samsung phones and this flashcounter stuff. Thanks in advance.
+1. I just came from the epic 4g touch and over there the issue was resolved with a usb jig. Also ,i believe there was an app developed that would do it.
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system root doesn't increase the flash counter, I have mine rooted, superuser and busybox installed , and 0 in my flash counter.
download from the top link and follow these steps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22920576&postcount=87
roloracer said:
system root doesn't increase the flash counter, I have mine rooted, superuser and busybox installed , and 0 in my flash counter.
download from the top link and follow these steps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22920576&postcount=87
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As I said I am new to the whole Odin thing. I was under the impression flashing anything with Odin would increase the counter, this is not the case? What does increase the counter then?
If you want root and not increase flash counter use that method @roloracer mentions. That's what I used and it was easy.
macked said:
As I said I am new to the whole Odin thing. I was under the impression flashing anything with Odin would increase the counter, this is not the case? What does increase the counter then?
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is not odin that increases the flash counter, cause if samsung would release an update and you wanted to flash from the pc and not from ota update , it wouldn't increase the flash counter, custom kernels/roms/recoveries do , but for some reason the system root doesn't, I still haven't decided if I'm going to say screw the counter, I probably would have if there was more roms to try out, but I'm going to be patient until a stable cm7 or ics rom is out.
Thanks for this. Whats the downside to flashing this instead of the other ?
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pathtologos said:
Thanks for this. Whats the downside to flashing this instead of the other ?
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nothing except you can't overclock past the 1.5ghz since you still have the stock kernel, but you can use any rooting app, and use setcpu with a performance scaling to throttle the cpu to the max or lower it to save battery. Once you use a custom kernel the flash counter will trip.
Big thanks rolo, this was very informative.
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Big thanks rolo, this was very informative.
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no problem, glad to help in anyway possible.
Damn really want to oc. ..lol. Anyone have a prediction on whether we'll see a way to reset the counter ,like the epic 4g touch ?
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pathtologos said:
Damn really want to oc. ..lol. Anyone have a prediction on whether we'll see a way to reset the counter ,like the epic 4g touch ?
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yes from what DA_G said there's no point in the development for it until ics is out, so I don't expect the flash counter fix to be available till samsung releases ics update.
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yes from what DA_G said there's no point in the development for it until ics is out, so I don't expect the flash counter fix to be available till samsung releases ics update.
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why not for gingerbread? since i mean it is the current one right now
i really want to flash a rom for spead tweaks and stuff, but seems like flash counter will increase with that
so so far im rooted, flash counter still at zero
SayWhat10 said:
why not for gingerbread? since i mean it is the current one right now
i really want to flash a rom for spead tweaks and stuff, but seems like flash counter will increase with that
so so far im rooted, flash counter still at zero
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I don't have an answer for that, you might have to ask DA_G for that answer, there the ones developing it, not sure why.
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SayWhat10 said:
why not for gingerbread? since i mean it is the current one right now
i really want to flash a rom for spead tweaks and stuff, but seems like flash counter will increase with that
so so far im rooted, flash counter still at zero
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I believe it's because of an existing app (Triangle Away Thread) that works to remove the counter on ICS. DA_G refers to it here (post 49): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504218&page=5
Question related to this topic: I couldn't wait...lol. Flashed the oc kernel through Odin and, of course, my flash count went up. IF I decide to return this phone, do the employees at best buy mobile check the flash count? I know how to restore it to stock so that won't be a problem but we can't reset that flash counter. Anyone have any input?
Thanks!
roloracer said:
is not odin that increases the flash counter, cause if samsung would release an update and you wanted to flash from the pc and not from ota update , it wouldn't increase the flash counter, custom kernels/roms/recoveries do , but for some reason the system root doesn't, I still haven't decided if I'm going to say screw the counter, I probably would have if there was more roms to try out, but I'm going to be patient until a stable cm7 or ics rom is out.
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I think thats what im going to do. My gnote should be here tomorrow and i was going to root right away but there really isnt much point for me at this point with roms to install.
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pathtologos said:
Question related to this topic: I couldn't wait...lol. Flashed the oc kernel through Odin and, of course, my flash count went up. IF I decide to return this phone, do the employees at best buy mobile check the flash count? I know how to restore it to stock so that won't be a problem but we can't reset that flash counter. Anyone have any input?
Thanks!
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No way. Some guy in another thread said people return phones with CM7 installed. Inside your return window and they don't care.
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Here's what I'd like to do:
Root my phone and go to ICS. However, if I ever have a problem, I want to be able to get the phone back to stock, so my warranty is still good. So, do I root with mashi's method or do I just root with any method and use the reset counter (linked on here somewhere)?
Since I want to install ICS is there any reason to care about the counter and will the reset counter work after installing ICS if I have to go back to stock?
Do I still get the ICS update from AT&T when it comes out? Or is this like jailbreaking (something I'm VERY familiar with), and you just wait until someone comes up with a new custom ROM that has the Suite.
I know these are a lot of questions, but it's all stuff I'm currently researching, and it's not apparent what's the right thing to do (mostly due to this all being kind of new....some of the threads on here are only a month or so old). Anyway, my goal is to get to ICS and be able to get to stock if I ever have to with the least risk possible.
I just bought a note 2 off of swappa that is completely stock and on 4.3. Since reading many post about Knox and how this bootloader is completely locked down now I contacted mobile tech videos to see if they could unlock, root, and put custom recovery on this phone with the knox 4.3 update... They replied YES!!! Their guy emailed me back saying that they do have a service for downgrading, rooting, and cutom recovery install...I'm not sure about people with the knox already flagged or other circumstances. You would have to email and check...but for 30$ in my stock 4.3 locked situation this seems like my only option to install custom rooms and recovery. I haven't done it yet. I will be within a couple days. But I have used their service before on a droid dna unlock with no issues. We shall see. Just though some of you might like to have the info to contact them for yourselves.
Please update us on the results when you do get it back. I'd take a fee if I could get it unlocked.
DaemonAshra said:
Please update us on the results when you do get it back. I'd take a fee if I could get it unlocked.
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Yes I will update...not sure if they are going to downgrade then unlock it or if they have the ability to unlock 4.3. but the guy said they have what it takes to unlock, root, install custom recovery, and custom rom different samsung phones on the 4.3 knoxed bootloader. I get the phone this week and will be shipping it when I get it straight to mobile tech videos
This would be great news.. Keep us posted
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onefast50 said:
This would be great news.. Keep us posted
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I just emailed them as well and here's the reply. " I do indeed have the ability to revert the Knox bootloader back to the 4.1.2 bootloader." looks like I'll have to try them.
Color me skeptical. Optimistic, but skeptical.
What is Mobile Tech Videos' reputation? And is this something generally possible with JTAG?
onefast50 said:
This would be great news.. Keep us posted
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I just emailed them as well and here's the reply. " I do indeed have the ability to revert the Knox bootloader back to the 4.1.2 bootloader." looks like I'll have to try them.
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Hmmmm; I had emailed them also, and the reply I got back was, "At this time, there are no options for unlocking the bootloader if on 4.3."
I also mentioned it was the verizon 4.3 OTA.
SUCCESS!!!!!!!
so i just got my phone back and it was a Success. MobileTech was able to downgrade my stock 4.3 note2 back to 4.1.2 stock, unlock it, install cmw,and root the phone.(no knox tripped or unofficial software flags shown). when i turned the phone on it wanted to download the 4.3 ota again so i freaked out, because usually my rooted phones dont try to ota update. so i odined it with the kies 4.1.2+ pit. took it back to locked stock 4.1.2, and then ran casual to reunlock/root/recovery-Success again...(meaning we can go back to clean stock if need be). It wanted to ota again so i just froze the SDM 1.0 apk with titanium back up. Josh from mobile tech said this will be a new service for our phones and will be charging 60-80$ for the service. email them/him if you have any ????s....He also warned me that even after jtagging if we take the 4.3 ota its back to locked with knox. But I am back to installing roms again and very pleased.
Steurer1 said:
so i just got my phone back and it was a Success. MobileTech was able to downgrade my stock 4.3 note2 back to 4.1.2 stock, unlock it, install cmw,and root the phone.(no knox tripped or unofficial software flags shown). when i turned the phone on it wanted to download the 4.3 ota again so i freaked out, because usually my rooted phones dont try to ota update. so i odined it with the kies 4.1.2+ pit. took it back to locked stock 4.1.2, and then ran casual to reunlock/root/recovery-Success again...(meaning we can go back to clean stock if need be). It wanted to ota again so i just froze the SDM 1.0 apk with titanium back up. Josh from mobile tech said this will be a new service for our phones and will be charging 60-80$ for the service. email them/him if you have any ????s....He also warned me that even after jtagging if we take the 4.3 ota its back to locked with knox. But I am back to installing roms again and very pleased.
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So you had your note 2 sent off to be downgraded how much did that cost you? My wife is buggn the crap out of me because she wants her note 2 unlocked. Any idea when this jatagg thing is gonna be posted for everyone to use? Thanks
☛Hyper?Drive☚
I know this wasn't my issues, but just to recommend Mobile Tech and their great and fast service. I hard bricked my phone and had to send it in to get jtag and they were nice, answered questions and quick with their service. Its nice because they are located about a 1 hour away from me. If they say they can do it I would believe them.
Had anybody else been able to confirm this? It seems that there are a lot of threads about people being bummed about their phones that have 4.3 them. This could be their solution.
xdadevnube said:
Had anybody else been able to confirm this? It seems that there are a lot of threads about people being bummed about their phones that have 4.3 them. This could be their solution.
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http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-bootloader-sboot-downgrade-service/
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Price
I think the price is pretty steep. Would be nice if someone could post the steps or solution.
oneders65 said:
I think the price is pretty steep. Would be nice if someone could post the steps or solution.
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Yea I agree, but since they can only do it they can pretty much charge what they want unfortunately.
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Well, at least there is a solution... Hopefully, those willing to pay will see this option
Collaboration is key in XDA
Steurer1 said:
I just bought a note 2 off of swappa that is completely stock and on 4.3. Since reading many post about Knox and how this bootloader is completely locked down now I contacted mobile tech videos to see if they could unlock, root, and put custom recovery on this phone with the knox 4.3 update... They replied YES!!! Their guy emailed me back saying that they do have a service for downgrading, rooting, and cutom recovery install...I'm not sure about people with the knox already flagged or other circumstances. You would have to email and check...but for 30$ in my stock 4.3 locked situation this seems like my only option to install custom rooms and recovery. I haven't done it yet. I will be within a couple days. But I have used their service before on a droid dna unlock with no issues. We shall see. Just though some of you might like to have the info to contact them for yourselves.
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This is a repost because I saw someone preaching about the MobileTechVideos again. I have spent a vast amount of research and hands on technical work on downgrading
From: VRUEMJ9 4.3
To: VRALJB 4.1.1
And it possible. The problem isn't downgrading the ROM, it's the bootloader, it consistently stays at a 4.3 Bootloader while the ROM is at 4.1.1. Your post looks more like a promotion/advertisement, therefore I ask you Steurer1, can MobileTechVideos:
1) Downgrade the bootloader
2) Unlock the bootloader
3) Load a custom recovery (CWM, Philz, TWRP).......
4) Furthermore installing a custom rom?
From your post, you acknowledged this, so assuming MobileTechVideos can accomplish all this, then these guys are gurus and I will happily send them my phone, tuck my tail between my legs, and hats off to them! Taking it a step further, this is what fellow techies really want: If we could please get a technical post by MobileTechVideos here on XDA describing the process that they used to perform the four requirements above. This would be the most beneficial post that the rest of the Note II SCH-I605 4.3 community could really appreciate. Awaiting a follow up Steurer1.
guitari said:
Your post looks more like a promotion/advertisement, therefore I ask you Steurer1, can MobileTechVideos:
1) Downgrade the bootloader
2) Unlock the bootloader
3) Load a custom recovery (CWM, Philz, TWRP).......
4) Furthermore installing a custom rom?
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Well, looking at their site, you can see they are not going to do steps 2-4. That is up to you when you get your phone back. They are only going to downgrade the bootloader from the non-unlockable 4.3 version to the unlockable 4.1.2.
And I have no vested interest in the company and have never used their services, but by all indications that are a reputable business. Their name comes up constantly for unbricking devices.
Also, given that they currently have the market cornered on the service, I truly can't imagine they would release all the technical details on how they are doing it. They have a monetary interest to not let it get out, in fact. Just my two cents.
guitari said:
This is a repost because I saw someone preaching about the MobileTechVideos again. I have spent a vast amount of research and hands on technical work on downgrading
From: VRUEMJ9 4.3
To: VRALJB 4.1.1
And it possible. The problem isn't downgrading the ROM, it's the bootloader, it consistently stays at a 4.3 Bootloader while the ROM is at 4.1.1. Your post looks more like a promotion/advertisement, therefore I ask you Steurer1, can MobileTechVideos:
1) Downgrade the bootloader
2) Unlock the bootloader
3) Load a custom recovery (CWM, Philz, TWRP).......
4) Furthermore installing a custom rom?
From your post, you acknowledged this, so assuming MobileTechVideos can accomplish all this, then these guys are gurus and I will happily send them my phone, tuck my tail between my legs, and hats off to them! Taking it a step further, this is what fellow techies really want: If we could please get a technical post by MobileTechVideos here on XDA describing the process that they used to perform the four requirements above. This would be the most beneficial post that the rest of the Note II SCH-I605 4.3 community could really appreciate. Awaiting a follow up Steurer1.
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I have a galaxy note 2 gt-n7105 and running 4.3 with knox tripped at 0X1. everybody telling me you cant downgrade. I can only downgrade to 4.1.2 using a backup using clockworkmod. but the funny thing is using odin I can flash 4.1.1 I don't have a clue why no other older firmware cant be flushed using odin but I can flash 4.1.1 so Sguitari your telling me I am running 4.1.1 but still using the 4.3 locked bootloader ????????? CAN SOMEBODY SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS. THANKS
worked for me
I didnt have the Knox issue but I did have a hard bricked NOTE 2. My jig didnt work and there was no life to the phone at all, but then I saw mobile tech videos site and sent in my device. My NOTE 2 was returned with in the stated time frame (I did not request rush service as this is not my primary device) and in perfect working condition. They are very easy to work with and have an excellent level of communication. An additional USB cable that I ordered was not in the return envelope but upon sending a polite email to Josh it was sent to me the next day. I would highly recommend mobile tech for any problem that you are not able to fix yourself.
My att note 3 is giving me too much trouble with gps. I'm giving up on it. Thinking about getting the tmobile s5 instead of att for the unlocked bootloader. I'm just trying to find myself root and recovery guides but I don't see them .. Please point me in the right direction
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Here you go.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+root+the+T-Mobile+galaxy+s5
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blackknightavalon said:
Here you go.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+root+the+T-Mobile+galaxy+s5
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The reason I asked on here is because I was hoping for something better, more "official" on xda than just some Googled sites... people brick phones over things they get from the Internet
optimusv45 said:
people brick phones over things they get from the Internet
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Well...XDA isn't a telegraph service.
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Well...XDA isn't a telegraph service.
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What do you mean ? I looked up what telegraph means, and can relate it to what we are talking about ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723994
I think I found what I was looking for
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723994
I think I found what I was looking for
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not sure about other methods of rooting, but I'm pretty specific in avoiding the breakage of KNOX... if you're the same, here's an up-to-date guide to root and keep KNOX at 0x0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-s5-firmware-knox-0x0-t2909352
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not sure about other methods of rooting, but I'm pretty specific in avoiding the breakage of KNOX... if you're the same, here's an up-to-date guide to root and keep KNOX at 0x0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-s5-firmware-knox-0x0-t2909352
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With this you'll still need to odin the recovery. So exactly trigger knox ? I think I'll just odin the recovery, not bother with rooting the stock rom, and just flash a rom
optimusv45 said:
With this you'll still need to odin the recovery. So exactly trigger knox ? I think I'll just odin the recovery, not bother with rooting the stock rom, and just flash a rom
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Odin the recovery? no... if you're on the latest ROM already, all you do is Odin the NE6 kernel given in the post, run towelroot, verify root, Odin NK2 kernel back and bam! rooted the latest NK2 ROM with KNOX intact.
dimm0k said:
Odin the recovery? no... if you're on the latest ROM already, all you do is Odin the NE6 kernel given in the post, run towelroot, verify root, Odin NK2 kernel back and bam! rooted the latest NK2 ROM with KNOX intact.
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I understand how the method works. It's like they can't root the latest kernel or something so revert back for root and come back. My point is if your final goal isn't just a rooted stock phone, there is almost no point in this ? Because since the phone doesn't have a looked bootloader you can just odin a recovery and flash a rom without rooting first
optimusv45 said:
I understand how the method works. It's like they can't root the latest kernel or something so revert back for root and come back. My point is if your final goal isn't just a rooted stock phone, there is almost no point in this ? Because since the phone doesn't have a looked bootloader you can just odin a recovery and flash a rom without rooting first
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well yeah, no point in this if you're looking for more than a rooted stock phone...
Nice, this is my first time getting a tmobile device. So tired of att lock down. Can't wait for a real recovery on a good phone
Bump so I can find this easy in a few days.m
I just got my note 3 from a 3rd party. Oddly, it had a t-mobile card in it which assuming is a an ability it has, stock.
My phone reports to me that it is infact n900p. It is 0x0 knox and is NOT rooted.
My concerns: a valuable and intelligent, with personal experience with this same phone but differnt carrier, friend, told me that tripping knox not only voids your warrenty, but prohibits you from flashing modem roms ever again.
From my research: rooting my already ok2 base rom,is possible, but no matter what,will trip knox..or is that only on custom roms? Can i enjoy xsposed?
Apparently,this update dropped recently aswell, so am i boned? Will i have no choice but to trip knox?
Is my friend correct about loosing more then my (non existent ) warrenty?
Honestly, if the samsung warrenty is all i am losing, i am in..cuz sprint doesnt care about knox, i already know that from getting replacement, i have tep.
I hate sounding so noobish, been in the scene since my first htc hero, i am not new to this...
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No one has a answer? I was for sure thinking l was going to be called noob or something.
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You know what I was thinking about the same thing since I just got my SM-N900P the other day from eBay and I rooted it then I put the TWRP recovery. I did a backup of my original stock rom after the rooting process and also I downloaded the stock rom from xda so worse comes to worse anything happens I'm downloading the stockrom and I'll start out fresh.
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Starhero said:
No one has a answer? I was for sure thinking l was going to be called noob or something.
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Well, I will tell you that my knox was tripped within a week of having my phone. I can also tell you that I have used Odin on at least three occasions to reflash stock so I could get the OTA updates, and have had no issues. Only thing to remember for when you flash back in Odin, you have to enter download from completely powered off. Two or three flashes might be necessary, but it can be done.
Just make sure you get the right ROM for the crrier you want to use (you probably already knew that). Hopefully you have your MSL.
So, the only thing to lose is your Samsung warranty...which is probably void anyways with you not being the original purchaser. Just have a copy of the stock ROM for that phone to Odin if you "send it south" by accident.
Your baseband version under device info is your modem version. I was able to successfully update it to ok2 after I flashed back to stock and got the OTA updates.
Some links for you (the ROM links are all for Sprint):
Stock Odin ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...ck-rom-odin-flashable-stock-firmware-t3306053
My rooting method, trips Knox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/how-to-root-note-3-lollipop-t3089382
TWRP stock pre-rooted ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/rom-twrp-flash-ok2-n9000p-t3301897