just like title states. it was revealed the tf-700 with LTE data connection will likely only be a Europe only version. unless picked up by a carrier here in the states. Asus might not want to deal with carrier headaches here in U.S. for a tablet. so for now, its a Europe only version. meaning only wifi version of TF-700 with Tegra3 chipset will be available in the U.S. make sure to watch the video. He states in video also this version may never see the light of day in U.S. and states reason why. if there is a slight chance it would come, At&T would be only carrier which could push it. seemed like that S4 version seemed a little laggy compared to tegra3 version when he was swiping home screen. or seemed slowly than mines at least. it looks nice though.
www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/27/mw...infinity-tf700kg-hey-look-an-antenna-window/;)
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just like title states. it was revealed the tf-700 with LTE data connection will likely only be a Europe only version. unless picked up by a carrier here in the states. Asus might not want to deal with carrier headaches here in U.S. for a tablet. so for now, its a Europe only version. meaning only wifi version of TF-700 with Tegra3 chipset will be available in the U.S. make sure to watch the video. He states in video also this version may never see the light of day in U.S. and states reason why. if there is a slight chance it would come, At&T would be only carrier which could push it. seemed like that S4 version seemed a little laggy compared to tegra3 version when he was swiping home screen. or seemed slowly than mines at least. it looks nice though.
www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/27/mw...infinity-tf700kg-hey-look-an-antenna-window/;)
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Thanks for the video. I like how he mentioned the antenna window and said GPS should work. On a side note, I'd rather have Tegra 3.
Why you prefer Tegra 3?
"GPS should work, fingers crossed"
I'm really excited to see if this one has less problems than the prime. Or how customers will react to it. I don't really have problems with my prime but people will always find something to nag about
Correct me if I'm wrong but LTE isnt even available yet in the uk.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but LTE isnt even available yet in the uk.
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Orange/T-Mobile (Everything Everywhere is just a stupid name so I refuse to use it) will be deploying LTE in limited quantities in certain parts of the UK this year. As for the others, the spectrum auctions will be held this year, so hopefully we'll have service by Xmas or early next year. They'll probably start deployment on the 2.6Ghz band first as there are some interference issues with digital TV that need to be resolved on the 800Mhz band. In any case, I want to buy a tablet that is future-proof, and this will do nicely on HSPA+ until then.
As for the US, the issue there is that carriers (unlike here) don't discount their plans at all even if you choose to go SIM-only. This means customers always go for a carrier-subsidized device, which gives them the opportunity to change specs and load up the device with their own crappy bloatware as they see fit. Unlike Samsung, Asus seem to have little appetite for the US market's BS.
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why would he want something slower and showing lag?
So it really wouldn't make sense for the tf700 lte version to launch in the uk until it is more widely available
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So it really wouldn't make sense for the tf700 lte version to launch in the uk until it is more widely available
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Agreed.
But seeing how the launch of the TF201 went it wouldn't surprise me one bit if ASUS were foolish enough to only release this where LTE is not even widely available (and isn't going to be for quite some time).
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By who? A U.S. reporter playing with it on a crowded trade show floor in Spain?
unless picked up by a carrier here in the states. Asus might not want to deal with carrier headaches here in U.S. for a tablet.
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Headaches? If VZW or AT&T pick it up the only headache will be hundreds of thousands of additional sales. Even Acer sells a HSPA+ device on AT&T. The only reason Asus hasn't is because none of their devices allowed them to work with a U.S. carrier before. Can you imagine how popular the Infinity would be with the corporate market with the keyboard dock? Like the value-priced TF300 this is actually one of Asus' better strategies.
He states in video also this version may never see the light of day in U.S. and states reason why.
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Again, "he" is a U.S. reporter speculating. Anything he's "stating" is his guess. If they only planned to sell it unlocked (no carrier support) it would have been HSPA+. Even the retail-only versions of Samsung's newly announced tablets aren't LTE and they've already sold millions of Qualcomm LTE tablets through the carriers.
Based on this article, where do you think a manufacturer with an LTE-chipped device would intend to sell it in 2012?
US Dominant as Global 4G LTE Leader
Sherin Matthew on October 14, 2011
According to a newly released report form Pyramid Research, the United States now accounts for the largest number of 4G LTE subscriptions in the world for this year. There have been twenty- six global major carriers that have launched LTE networks, but only three of them account for 47% of LTE connections in 2011. All of them are US carriers- Verizon Wireless, Metro PCS and AT&T. Industry analysts have estimated that US carriers will be responsible for about half the global LTE subscriptions this year, around 7 million of the 14.9 million subscribers will be associated with one of the 3 major networks.
Verizon Wireless’ rapid deployment of its LTE network is a major reason of US dominance in the LTE market. Verizon first launched its 4G LTE network on December 5th, 2010 and the company announced this Tuesday that it would offer LTE coverage to an aggregate total of 178 US cities by November 17th of this year. This encompassing coverage of the US with LTE service accounts for the majority of American LTE subscribers.
Pyramid also says that US sales of handheld devices embedded with LTE radios should surpass 5.4 million units in 2011- making up 71% of LTE devices that are sold globally. Strong demand in the US for mobile broadband services coupled with emerging companies like Clearwire and Sprint offering LTE service in 2012 should swell the number of US and global subscribers to LTE , further strengthening the US’ position as the global leader in LTE subscriptions.
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Mostly for gaming. I've owned several powerful Sammy non-Tegra GT's. Have you ever played a Tegra optimized game on a non-Tegra device?
It's lag city, even at 8.9". Tegra 3 is definitely the way to go outside of Dual A15 SoC's.
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By who? A U.S. reporter playing with it on a crowded trade show floor in Spain?
Headaches? If VZW or AT&T pick it up the only headache will be hundreds of thousands of additional sales. Even Acer sells a HSPA+ device on AT&T. The only reason Asus hasn't is because none of their devices allowed them to work with a U.S. carrier before. Can you imagine how popular the Infinity would be with the corporate market with the keyboard dock? Like the value-priced TF300 this is actually one of Asus' better strategies.
Again, "he" is a U.S. reporter speculating. Anything he's "stating" is his guess. If they only planned to sell it unlocked (no carrier support) it would have been HSPA+. Even the retail-only versions of Samsung's newly announced tablets aren't LTE and they've already sold millions of Qualcomm LTE tablets through the carriers.
Based on this article, where do you think a manufacturer with an LTE-chipped device would intend to sell it in 2012?
US Dominant as Global 4G LTE Leader
Sherin Matthew on October 14, 2011
According to a newly released report form Pyramid Research, the United States now accounts for the largest number of 4G LTE subscriptions in the world for this year. There have been twenty- six global major carriers that have launched LTE networks, but only three of them account for 47% of LTE connections in 2011. All of them are US carriers- Verizon Wireless, Metro PCS and AT&T. Industry analysts have estimated that US carriers will be responsible for about half the global LTE subscriptions this year, around 7 million of the 14.9 million subscribers will be associated with one of the 3 major networks.
Verizon Wireless’ rapid deployment of its LTE network is a major reason of US dominance in the LTE market. Verizon first launched its 4G LTE network on December 5th, 2010 and the company announced this Tuesday that it would offer LTE coverage to an aggregate total of 178 US cities by November 17th of this year. This encompassing coverage of the US with LTE service accounts for the majority of American LTE subscribers.
Pyramid also says that US sales of handheld devices embedded with LTE radios should surpass 5.4 million units in 2011- making up 71% of LTE devices that are sold globally. Strong demand in the US for mobile broadband services coupled with emerging companies like Clearwire and Sprint offering LTE service in 2012 should swell the number of US and global subscribers to LTE , further strengthening the US’ position as the global leader in LTE subscriptions.
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going off of stuff said in video. not my own made up assumptions or scenarios like you are. so until proof is shown otherwise to disapprove what video says, then the video stands. enough rumor and speculation as it is. person in video more reliable source than someone who never seen or even touched device. I thought it was odd also but that's what they said. we will see. plus seen that same statement said on other sites but didn't bother linking them. nice try buddy. you get an A for effort though
plus I'm not here to get into yet another debate/useless flame war. one good thread already got shut down last night from silliness and unnecessary arguments. we will just see what pans out. what I stated was from the video itself. not anything made up or assumed. get a grip, I think you love trying to disapprove people or throw wild spins on something. take a chill pill. not that serious buddy. maybe it was just your delivery of your post that's off.
Wouldnt really care much for the 3g/4g LTE version cause I wouldnt want to pay an extra data plan which my phone already has. Plus with tethering I see no point, unless you dont have a phone with a data plan. But if the other posters are correct, either Asus is not doing their studies or the person in the video was fed or feeding some wrong data or assumptions.
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going off of stuff said in video. not my own made up assumptions or scenarios like you are. so until proof is shown otherwise to disapprove what video says, then the video stands.
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So you think what a non-Asus spokesperson that just happens to be standing in their booth says isn't "made up assumption?" When a real Asus spokesperson said the TF700 had better wireless than the Prime at CES via a video you chose not to believe it. If that video wasn’t believable, why is this one?
Let's face it, you'd be happiest if Asus never built or sold another tablet than the Prime in the U.S. and you look for anything you can find that supports that point. I posted some supporting material that logically differs from what's casually referenced in the video for people to have another opinion to consider. Not everything is meant to be a personal attack against you or the Prime.
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So you think what a non-Asus spokesperson that just happens to be standing in their booth says isn't "made up assumption?" When a real Asus spokesperson said the TF700 had better wireless than the Prime at CES via a video you chose not to believe it. If that video wasn’t believable, why is this one?
Let's face it, you'd be happiest if Asus never built or sold another tablet than the Prime in the U.S. and you look for anything you can find that supports that point. I posted some supporting material that logically differs from what's casually referenced in the video for people to have another opinion to consider. Not everything is meant to be a personal attack against you or the Prime.
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After yesterday's fun, hopefully we can all look to the future of Asus tablets with a positive reception. Tablets are getting better by the week. Like it or not. It is ridiculous to think that current tablets are going to reign supreme for years to come.
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Because Qualcomm chips are almost always laggy and slower than Exynos, Tegra, or other chipsets
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Anyone else think its going to be almost impossible to get one? Look at the evo... its STILL out of freakin in and out of stock online...
With the earthquake in Japan slowing the manufacturing industry down, I would imagine there will be shortages of a lot of products, beyond what there normally would be.
I don't see why japan disaster would slow the chinese sweatshops
yes there well be lots of shortages due to demand for a few months, even now the evo 4g still runs out of stock and the E3D well certainly be more popular
The only reason they keep running low on stock is because they haven't ramped up production. If Sprint wanted to, they could flood the market with EVO 4Gs.
I'm going to bust my ass to get on the list.
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I doubt it. Most who got an EVO now wont be able to upgrade and that means less purchases.
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Perfect reason to preorder one! I know I will.
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I don't see why japan disaster would slow the chinese sweatshops
yes there well be lots of shortages due to demand for a few months, even now the evo 4g still runs out of stock and the E3D well certainly be more popular
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some of qualcomm's part comes from japan. so.......yeah.......it means delay.
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some of qualcomm's part comes from japan. so.......yeah.......it means delay.
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KIRF to the rescue?
NEW FLASH!!!
There are to few Premier members that will qualify for the upgrade now that it won't make any difference.....
Ok, maybe it's not a news flash, but my gut is telling me demand for the EVO 3D won't be as high as it was for the EVO. There's just to many choices now on other carriers and like I said, Sprint's annual upgrade basically doesn't exist for more now...
BTW, I have a feeling that the Japan issue is really a non issue; mostly because the phone won't be released till the summer. Also, Toyota and other car manufactures have already gotten their plants running, so there has to also be a way to ship them out. If you get a auto factory running and can ship a ship full of cars out, I think they should be able build phone parts and ship a billion phone parts out...
I went to verizon the other day with a friend of mine and he was checking out the Thunderbolt. He àsked how their stock has been and they guy said they have sold a ton of them but HTC has been shipping them as soon as they run out. so they haven't had any problem keeping them in stock. Im not sure but im thinking that could be a sign for us that they will keep a decent stock this time and not miss out on sales like with the Evo.
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Ok, maybe it's not a news flash, but my gut is telling me demand for the EVO 3D won't be as high as it was for the EVO. There's just to many choices now on other carriers and like I said, Sprint's annual upgrade basically doesn't exist for more now...
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Due to the recent change in the gold/silver Premier levels?
If that's the case, because I'm still gold, I'll be ahead of almost everyone. Sweet! I'm so tired of my HTC Hero already, been holding out all this time for a dual-core.
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NEW FLASH!!!
There are to few Premier members that will qualify for the upgrade now that it won't make any difference.....
Ok, maybe it's not a news flash, but my gut is telling me demand for the EVO 3D won't be as high as it was for the EVO. There's just to many choices now on other carriers and like I said, Sprint's annual upgrade basically doesn't exist for more now...
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There are still going to be a lot of people using full upgrades/other lines on family plans as well as new customers. Not to mention the people who are still eligible for premier upgrades, and, of course, those who will buy the 3D outright. I fully expect demand to be as high or higher than the OG Evo.
My store is still selling out of stock on the 4G whenever we get them, so the demand is there. You also have to factor in a year of people talking about the EVO which spreads it appeal to the more average customers, as opposed to the 4G launch which was driven by tech-types who knew it was coming.
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I don't see why japan disaster would slow the chinese sweatshops
yes there well be lots of shortages due to demand for a few months, even now the evo 4g still runs out of stock and the E3D well certainly be more popular
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You don't see why plant closures in Japan from some large semiconductor manufacturers would slow them down? Not to say it's going to grind to a halt, but it will have an effect, even if only a small one.
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I don't see why japan disaster would slow the chinese sweatshops
yes there well be lots of shortages due to demand for a few months, even now the evo 4g still runs out of stock and the E3D well certainly be more popular
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also you are thinking wrong. you think if korea has been hit with the disaster, you are probably thinking apple will now rule thw world? wrong.
apple uses lg displays, samsungs chip. world can not survive alone anymore. no lg and samsung=no apple.
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There are still going to be a lot of people using full upgrades/other lines on family plans as well as new customers. Not to mention the people who are still eligible for premier upgrades, and, of course, those who will buy the 3D outright. I fully expect demand to be as high or higher than the OG Evo.
My store is still selling out of stock on the 4G whenever we get them, so the demand is there. You also have to factor in a year of people talking about the EVO which spreads it appeal to the more average customers, as opposed to the 4G launch which was driven by tech-types who knew it was coming.
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I'd say the reason you're still selling out of EVO's are because, on Sprint, there's nothing that compares to it in over all features. Sprint is very limited in what top tier phones they carry, and they just don't seem to want to stock them. Believe me, it's not a manufacturing issue. If it were, it'd be almost impossible to get an iPhone.
Here's another possible problem for block buster sales of the EVO 3D. Unlike last year, where Sprint was the only one offering 4G and the was really no comparable phones to the EVO 4G, it's a different story now. Verizon's spring roadmap has been leaked and they are announcing more 4G dual core phones in May.
If people see comparable phones sooner on another carrier and it's available sooner, why wouldn't many people just switch? Especially since LTE is the new buzz word and we've all come to see that LTE coverage is very good (I'm talking about actually having coverage where coverage is supposed to be), with great building penetration? In addition to that, Verizon is saying they'll have 4G (LTE) available in 147 markets by the end of this year, where Sprint/Clearwire looks frozen. Sprint won't even give a hint on what's to be expected by end of year. Because of this, Sprint's price advantage is gone... No one wants to stay on yesterdays network, that's clogged, when you get get new for just a bit more a month.
Figure I'd post this here and keep it somewhat updated so we dont have multiple threads all over the place in general for each device and news event.
1) here its Official Sprint gets Nexus First half of 2012...Sprints version WILL come with Google Wallet(NFS enabled) too....suck it Verizon! UPDATE: 32Gb confirmed!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/sprint-gets-4g-lte-and-galaxy-nexus-its-official/
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=MA:AB:20120109:CES:GLX:NXS:300x1050
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Engadget hands on video. http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/sprint-samsung-galaxy-nexus-hands-on-video/
2) Also a nice LG LTE phone on its way to sprint...
1.2GHz dual-core CPU, 4-inch Nova WVGA Display, Android 2.3.7. 5 megapixel rear cam, VGA front. case is made entirely from recycled plastic ....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/hands-on-with-lg-viper-sprint-lte-smartphone/
3) "... Sierra Wireless Tri-Network Hotspot will be able to connect to Sprint’s 3G, 4G LTE, and 4G WiMax networks, and support up to eight users at the same time. A built-in microSD card slot will enable teams to share documents easily.
In all, Sprint expects to launch around 15 4G LTE devices in 2012, including addtional smartphones, tablets, and data cards. ..."
http://blog.laptopmag.com/sprint-an...viper-and-sierra-wireless-tri-network-hotspot
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I will continue to update this post during CES with info related to Sprint and such...
Good to see 4 inch screen phones are still relevant. I personally think it's the perfect size.
Will keep a close eye on Sprint's summit.
I love it when CES goes on. I don't like waiting all year long for stuff to finally come out. And, I noticed that Sprint doesn't look to be providing a Keynote this year... Maybe HTC?
That LG Viper looks like a mixup of an EVO and a Galaxy
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Good to see 4 inch screen phones are still relevant. I personally think it's the perfect size.
Will keep a close eye on Sprint's summit.
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yeah will be interesting to see what David Owens of Sprint has to show/say tomorrow at 2PM ET during his speach. thats the only official thing from sprint i see though.
Another tid bit that will be nice is Qualcomm's speech just before Sprints....
doubt much from HTC here or much more from sprint since they typically do stuff at CTIA if i recall correctly.
The phone looks awesome and im glad to see sprint pushing out LTE phones. When im at home im on wifi anyway lol. Ive had an eligible upgrade since the iphones 4s and galaxy S2 and both times i just decided they werent good enough to get rid of my evo. Sad thing is my evo 3d is not even rooted lol. Maybe this phone will be the phone that dose it. I love my galaxy 10.1 tab so theres a good chance
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Wish they would get the 32GB version of the Nexus
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Yeah that would have been better.... Verizon has the 32gb version :-(
meh.........
Well during David Owens interview with Engadget just now he kinda made point to say something that was troubling....
During the interview they were discussing LTE and devices and he made point to say "...well we haven't announced LTE pricing yet....." and then later "...LTE pricing TBD..."
So. Dunno if im reading too much into that as I can't see them charging more for LTE device than they did for WiMax devices as that would just be ludicris and you'd see an outrage they are not in the position to deal with. Hoping He was specifically meaning the Hotspot device plans and such like that and NOT phones.
btw hes the VP of Product Development at Sprint
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I'm likely reading too much into what he said and he likely was referring to Hotspot devices as they had just talked about or were about to talk about the new hotspot device I have mentioned in post 1.
Funny thing was during the interview most of the comments on engadgets live twitter chat were all about "ASK him about WINDOWS PHONE!!" lol
I could care less about that lol.
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Well during David Owens interview with Engadget just now he kinda made point to say something that was troubling....
During the interview they were discussing LTE and devices and he made point to say "...well we haven't announced LTE pricing yet....." and then later "...LTE pricing TBD..."
So. Dunno if im reading too much into that as I can't see them charging more for LTE device than they did for WiMax devices as that would just be ludicris and you'd see an outrage they are not in the position to deal with. Hoping He was specifically meaning the Hotspot device plans and such like that and NOT phones.
btw hes the VP of Product Development at Sprint
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I'm likely reading too much into what he said and he likely was referring to Hotspot devices as they had just talked about or were about to talk about the new hotspot device I have mentioned in post 1.
Funny thing was during the interview most of the comments on engadgets live twitter chat were all about "ASK him about WINDOWS PHONE!!" lol
I could care less about that lol.
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He was talking about "game changers" and failed to mention the EVO 4G. What a shame. That's one of the biggest game changers there ever was.
I've fell off following Sprint's LTE dance but I'm assuming the Lightsquared deal is green-lighted, pending official word?
Houston & this CES line-up makes me wonder.
Or will they scratch the 900Mhz 3G plans & use it for their LTE 4G as plan B?
it's really disappointing to me that the whole nexus line is samsung. cheap garbage.
of course, i will suck into techoholism that i have and buy the galaxy nexus to give it a shot. 3rd time's the charm? i hope so.
What a weak showing for Sprint at this show...
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What a weak showing for Sprint at this show...
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Seriously?
When did Sprint ever show their best or anything really wowing at CES?
CTIA is Sprint's target, every year. I wished they'd give CES more "oomph" but it's not shocking.
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What a weak showing for Sprint at this show...
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Same as last year when the moto atrix was announced. CTIA is when we will see the next EVO. Here's hoping its LTE
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Seriously?
When did Sprint ever show their best or anything really wowing at CES?
CTIA is Sprint's target, every year. I wished they'd give CES more "oomph" but it's not shocking.
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Yup. Ppl should be shocked sprint was even there none the less announced devices and showed them off some.
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Seriously?
When did Sprint ever show their best or anything really wowing at CES?
CTIA is Sprint's target, every year. I wished they'd give CES more "oomph" but it's not shocking.
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I am aware of that but sometimes surprising the people with an unexpected announcement is a good thing!
Even announcing the Galaxy Nexus without any targeted release date or internal specs is like a half ass announcement. Are they actually going to wait for for LTE to roll out before they release this phone? At that point the phone will become even more irrelevant then it already is now as I am sure the big hitters will be coming at that time like the next EVO or the SGS3.
When is CTIA anyway?
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I am aware of that but sometimes surprising the people with an unexpected announcement is a good thing!
Even announcing the Galaxy Nexus without any targeted release date or internal specs is like a half ass announcement. Are they actually going to wait for for LTE to roll out before they release this phone? At that point the phone will become even more irrelevant then it already is now as I am sure the big hitters will be coming at that time like the next EVO or the SGS3.
When is CTIA anyway?
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CTIA is May 8-12th im pretty sure.
They said they were releasing these phones all in the first half of '12 if i recall too along with at least 15 total LTE devices for the year which is solid imho. I dont think they are concerned with the "big hitters" coming at that time too b/c the people that want to buy the Nexus will simply buy the Nexus no matter what usually.
Big announcement last night btw b/w Motorola and Intel working together. Finally gets Intel in a big name device manufacturer partnership. Not good for Qualcomm imho, but least this will likely infuse some more competition and make Qualcomm and others step up their game faster.
The intel stuff has me peaking interest right now. the guys are going for 14nm NEXT!!
The first one powered by Intel chips(Atom) will be Lenovo and its the K800. Some solid specs there for a phone.
4.5-inch 720p screen, 6 hours of HD video playback, 45 hours of audio, 8 hours of talk over a 3g network and 14 days on standby, McAfee security, 3D gaming, 1080p video playback, 1080p video capture, *MP camera with 15fps Capability. They showed it taking 10 freaking pics in a single second!!
new video of Sprint's Nexus added to OP.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/sprint-samsung-galaxy-nexus-hands-on-video/
Well it seems they are already starting to decommission some of the towers which have IDEN on them it seems.
They are using NO as a test base to then take the results of what happens there to apply nationally starting in April evidently.
This is good news as it shows that they might be willing to move faster than initially stated with the iDEN overhaul as before its always been stated to not start till 2013...This will save them money in the near future and hopefully just hopefully allow them to complete the iDEN transfer sooner than expected and re-purpose the 800MHz spectrum to CDMA(1xAdvance)/LTE...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/06/sprint-nextel-iden-shutdown/
http://s4gru.spruz.com/pt/Sprint-un...site-with-Decommissioning-Tower-Maps/blog.htm
that 2nd link is the original source to the engadget article btw. first time ive seen that site, though it has some interesting information in it.
Nice find man lol been reading up on Google about it
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Nice find man lol been reading up on Google about it
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yeah its not big news as in it doesnt effect us one bit but the biggest thing MIGHT be that they might be getting the whole spectrum re-purpose done earlier than originally planned.
Looks like Orlando, FL and surrounding areas starts June this year. BALLIN!
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yeah its not big news as in it doesnt effect us one bit but the biggest thing MIGHT be that they might be getting the whole spectrum re-purpose done earlier than originally planned.
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Sprint is always slow lmao I still don't have 4G in my area for 3 years none. Tho I think it has been longer than that lol.
thing that got me the most was looking at the map of NO and seeing how many freaking towers they have there. Hell im here in Raleigh and dont even show a 1/10th that many in such a small area. given they have 4x the population we have here thats a ton of towers there imho.
Thanks for the link back to our site. We were the original tech page breaking the story, and almost no one has referenced us except Engadget.
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Thanks for the link back to our site. We were the original tech page breaking the story, and almost no one has referenced us except Engadget.
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Hey anytime. like i said first time I've seen your site personally and ive been with sprint and around for a long time. Deff looks like you have some solid info.
Yey! !!!!
I hope are phone bill goes down as they start pulling out the awfully stupid decision to invest in a DOA technology like iDen....
Sprint should of gotten the hint: not even its creator [Motorola] wanted it!
/sarcasm /rant
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megabiteg said:
Yey! !!!!
I hope are phone bill goes down as they start pulling out the awfully stupid decision to invest in a DOA technology like iDen....
Sprint should of gotten the hint: not even its creator [Motorola] wanted it!
/sarcasm /rant
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ha whatever it was great if you used it. Had it way back in the day when I was in high school and managing an amusement park. everyone having nextel was great, no need for separate radios and all that. Tons of people use it in all sorts of industries esp construction. just more ppl use reg cells overall so the need for that spectrum is getting bigger.
Just think if Sprint didn't invest in Nextel, they wouldn't even have that 800MHz spectrum and they still likely would of been outbid for the spectrum VZ got in the auction long ago...
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ha whatever it was great if you used it. Had it way back in the day when I was in high school and managing an amusement park. everyone having nextel was great, no need for separate radios and all that. Tons of people use it in all sorts of industries esp construction. just more ppl use reg cells overall so the need for that spectrum is getting bigger.
Just think if Sprint didn't invest in Nextel, they wouldn't even have that 800MHz spectrum and they still likely would of been outbid for the spectrum VZ got in the auction long ago...
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Lol,
I don't deny it was great, but I sure don't think it was a smart move to purchase the damn thing. I've used it both for work in the military as for personal and those days were fun, I got to admit.
But everyone saw that IDEN was dead weight for sprint because of hosting 2 almost incompatible technologies, they were going to have a single provider (inflation) for network devices and radio equipment and IDEN wasn't being accepted as a world standard and operating in very closed markets; they should of invested in a GSM infrastructure & spectrum and they would of had their money worth something right now.
megabiteg said:
Lol,
I don't deny it was great, but I sure don't think it was a smart move to purchase the damn thing. I've used it both for work in the military as for personal and those days were fun, I got to admit.
But everyone saw that IDEN was dead weight for sprint because of hosting 2 almost incompatible technologies, they were going to have a single provider (inflation) for network devices and radio equipment and IDEN wasn't being accepted as a world standard and operating in very closed markets; they should of invested in a GSM infrastructure & spectrum and they would of had their money worth something right now.
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So they would drop their current cdma spectrum for gsm?....that there is a much bigger turnover. I look at the Nextel buy as getting subs and spectrum. Without that sprint likely bought up by VZ long ago imho...
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So they would drop their current cdma spectrum for gsm?....that there is a much bigger turnover. I look at the Nextel buy as getting subs and spectrum. Without that sprint likely bought up by VZ long ago imho...
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I do agree with you, but I do see one big mistake on both Verizon and Sprint. Investing in CDMA technology shouldn't of been their priority. GSM is the global technology which has become the standard world wide. Many countries are starting to migrate completely, e.g.: Latin & South America, EU and more...
It's no secret that the USA is no longer leader in Mobile technology, we have an overall inferior network vs many parts of the world. The US should join the wold in the GSM standard and not resit it.
I've worked in the backbone of CDMA and GSM networks, the cost associated to maintain a CDMA network is higher then the GSM counterpart due to how modular it is and how expensive the interconnection and expansion equipment are.
Just my honest opinion.
megabiteg said:
I do agree with you, but I do see one big mistake on both Verizon and Sprint. Investing in CDMA technology shouldn't of been their priority. GSM is the global technology which has become the standard world wide. Many countries are starting to migrate completely, e.g.: Latin & South America, EU and more...
It's no secret that the USA is no longer leader in Mobile technology, we have an overall inferior network vs many parts of the world. The US should join the wold in the GSM standard and not resit it.
I've worked in the backbone of CDMA and GSM networks, the cost associated to maintain a CDMA network is higher then the GSM counterpart due to how modular it is and how expensive the interconnection and expansion equipment are.
Just my honest opinion.
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Well the cost also has to do with the fact that b/c of so many people using it, that alone brings down general costs for things. Partially reason Sprint switching to LTE over WiMax is that LTE has become much cheaper to roll out now that so many other providers are on board with it....
when you worked in the backbone of CDMA networks you shoulda given Sprints a nice kick in the arse btw as they need it there.
Real?
Fake?
Would it make you mad?
I think that it's for a S4 like phone that's set to launch in Europe. Reason being they did the same thing with the note 2 and galaxy mega. However contrary to this point the mega had much lower specs than the Note 2.
Given that it's an S4 that still retails for 200$ I'm convinced that Samsung did this in the interest of sales.
This might be an S4 variant that retails for 300$+ under a different name.
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It's real, but only being released in South Korea, so no one anywhere else should worry. This is because of the LTE-Advanced capabilities which currently only exist in South Korea
Real or vaporwear, I wouldn't worry about it. us Verizon folks will never see it on our network.
oilfighter said:
Real or vaporwear, I wouldn't worry about it. us Verizon folks will never see it on our network.
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Probably the most accurate perspective, considering Verizon is in milking mode strategy with a mid device level offering and 16gb only option for the S4. Such a device would compromise their strategy. Other carriers probably will offer it in the US, just like 32gb S4 and the recent LG Pro.
The new 800 is not just a new LTE radio only, but the same radio versatility of the 600 with better fabrication process and much faster performance. We will not notice an LTE difference, but will notice "cooler" running 4g and much faster device performance.
pretty depressing that we won't ever see the 32gb s4
There is still a sliver of chance in late July, but by then we might hear more about 800 devices. HTC, LG and Samsung have already mentioned they will have devices with the chipset by Q4.
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Probably the most accurate perspective, considering Verizon is in milking mode strategy with a mid device level offering and 16gb only option for the S4. Such a device would compromise their strategy. Other carriers probably will offer it in the US, just like 32gb S4 and the recent LG Pro.
The new 800 is not just a new LTE radio only, but the same radio versatility of the 600 with better fabrication process and much faster performance. We will not notice an LTE difference, but will notice "cooler" running 4g and much faster device performance.
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I'm not surprised if Verizon is going with the "milking mode", but I feel Verizon's device strategy to be archaic.
It almost seem like Verizon is afraid that the customers will get confused if there are 2 equally good devices out at the same time. Perhaps this is why we don't have the HTC One yet.
Back when I was on T-Mobile, I would buy, then sell phones every few month. Simply because there are a ton of great phones to choose from. Now on Verizon, I change phones like once a year, not because I can't afford it, but because there's simply a lack of pones to choose from. Although, it all works out, since I need the money to pay the huge phone bill!
Unless there are massive power savings, i am not horribly bothered (got mine Sunday). The 600 is more than blowing me away with its power compared to my rezound.
Lets face it, when it comes to technology, there is ALWAYS something better right on the horizon. We face this every day, be it with phones, tvs, or computers. If you enjoy what you have, and it does what you need, i wouldn't dwell too much on what you might be "missing out" on..
True dat.
SUWON, South Korea (Reuters) - Samsung Electronics Co plans to sell a variation of its flagship Galaxy S4 smartphone that will transmit data at nearly twice the normal speed, the head of its mobile business said on Monday.
J.K. Shin, also co-chief executive of the world's biggest technology firm by revenue, said the phone would be sold in South Korea as early as this month.
Samsung was in talks with several overseas carriers to take the phone, Shin told Reuters in an interview at Samsung's headquarters in Suwon, just south of Seoul. He declined to name the carriers.
"We'll be the first with the commercial launch of the advanced 4G version of the smartphone," Shin said.
The new S4 will use LTE-Advanced 4G technology, an upgrade from conventional 4G called LTE, or long term evolution. LTE-Advanced offers data transmission at up to twice the normal 4G speed. The phones will be powered by Qualcomm chips.
A movie download that takes 3 minutes with conventional 4G would take slightly more than 1 minute, Samsung said.
Samsung's shares have lost almost $20 billion since June 7 after analysts cut forecasts for Galaxy S4 sales by as much as 30 percent on industry data that showed the high-end smartphone market was getting saturated.
The same problem is hitting sales of the iPhone 5, made by Samsung rival Apple Inc.
Samsung's market capitalization is still a hefty $195 billion. Its shares closed down 0.2 percent on Monday.
Shin showed little concern about sales prospects for the S4, which hit stores in late April. The mobile devices division is the company's biggest profit generator.
"S4 sales remain strong. It's selling far stronger than the (Galaxy) S III ... and the new LTE-Advanced (4G) phone will be another addition to our high-end segment offerings that ensure healthy profit margins," Shin said.
Shin declined to provide forecasts for S4 sales. He said the new S4 would be slightly more expensive than the current one.
The South Korean firm hopes the addition of hardware offerings such as faster data transmission, along with its widely anticipated move to introduce models with unbreakable or flexible displays, will help it protect margin growth.
"As operators seek to provide more data-centric mobile services, I think this will become mainstream 4G technology globally in the coming years," Shin said.
Shin also said sales of Samsung's tablet products in the U.S. market jumped 3.3 times since it installed brand shops within Best Buy's stores in April, and is now considering expanding the format in Latin America and Britain. Samsung declined to name potential retailers.
EYES ON NETWORK BUSINESS
Having conquered the smartphone market that Apple virtually created with the iconic iPhone in 2007, Samsung is seeking to do the same in the network business with the booming 4G mobile equipment market, challenging bigger rivals such as Ericsson, China's Huawei and Nokia Siemens Networks.
Many countries need to upgrade mobile base stations to handle not just 3G but also 4G, or build them from scratch to support 4G connections.
Shin said the network gear market was one of Samsung's fastest growing businesses, mainly thanks to 4G equipment sales which had been rising more than 30 percent a year since 2010.
The new phone would help this part of Samsung's business, he said.
"Such technology leadership will set the pace for the competition and help us become a major player in the network gear market," Shin said.
Samsung has won some 4G network deals from all major South Korean carriers, U.S. Sprint Nextel Corp and Japan's KDDI Corp and Hutchison Whampoa's British unit, but it needs to crack China to close the gap with traditional vendors in the overall gear equipment market.
Shin said there had not been much progress in Samsung's push to penetrate China's 4G equipment market yet, but it was increasing investment in the country.
China's three mobile operators - China Mobile, China Unicom and China Telecom - plan to spend a combined 345 billion yuan ($56.3 billion) this year on network upgrades. That includes investment in 4G, which multiplies mobile broadband speeds by up to five times for users of iPhone and Galaxy phones compared with 3G.
Many analysts believe Huawei and ZTE Corp - already big suppliers of China Mobile since only 10-15 percent of 3G network contracts went to foreign vendors - will be winners, leaving others to fight for smaller bits of the pie.
Samsung hopes to show Chinese clients that 4G networks with new technology can be built faster and with lower operating costs.
Not to hate, but standard 4G still isn't completely commonplace yet.
Not sure if i should go after this or the note.
Good god there is going to be 30 different versions of the S4 before too long....
S4 rugged
S4 developer
S4 google
S4 lte advanced
S4 sugar daddy edition
S4 game of thrones edition
S4 pokemon edition
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But no 32gb Verizon edition
Reneg4d3 said:
Good god there is going to be 30 different versions of the S4 before too long....
S4 rugged
S4 developer
S4 google
S4 lte advanced
S4 sugar daddy edition
S4 game of thrones edition
S4 pokemon edition
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The GOT edition might be cool- if a 32GB version for Verizon
Samsung is being savvy with the S4 "LTE Advanced" edition, since that is an understatement in name. The Snap 800 is the newer fabrication process that runs cooler for cpu, gpu and the data radios. The Snap dual and 600 are the same fabrication and basic design family. The Snap 800 is the start of their new family. Seems deceiving calling it what they are. The Snap 600 to 800 is a bigger overall hardware jump than the Snap dual to the 600.
Perhaps S4 Big Kahuna, or S4 Mega are better and more relative names.
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But no 32gb Verizon edition
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Because that would conflict with Verizon backup assistance and their expensive cloud
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Lol these posts are getting old...there is always going to be something better a few months after you buy a phone...
CC268 said:
Lol these posts are getting old...there is always going to be something better a few months after you buy a phone...
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I must agree..I say it is an intentional ploy to get more of our money.
Yea if they actually do come out with another they are trying to get more of our money and its just outrageous that they would purposely do such a thing.