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OK, so i was thinking about either getting this phone or waiting to see what shows up at CES.
I know CES is tomorrow so i was wondering if a phone that has better specs comes out.
If You guys can recommend a phone or even give a suggestion i would greatly appreciate it.
I'm used to the Motorola atrix 2 if that helps
I need it to be AT&T and be running at least ICS but preferably JB
I have to wait til March for an upgrade
Thanks
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The LGOG has ICS but runs like JB. Imagine the power it'll have when it gets JB.
The way mobile technology has been speeding along, by March, something with better specs will definitely be out/announced. Then you'll just have a short wait till you can get your hands on it. Today, I would absolutely recommend this phone. Best specs out there but, cmon, by March you probably need to be looking ahead.
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There will always a better phone around the corner. At some point you have jump in.
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In all honesty... I would wait to take a look at what the Galaxy S4 will bring since you have to wait until March anyway.
Galaxy S4 will have a huge selection of accessories and ROMs
However,
I have chosen the LGOG for the following reasons:
1. My upgrade was close to its release.
2. I paid $100 for a phone-beast.
3. It is the first quad-core phone with LTE on AT&T.
4. The display is not 5 inches or more.
5. It is basically a nicer Nexus 4. (I have learned that hardware as close to the current Nexus device as possible is a very safe bet)
6. The last phone that I though was this sexy was a Nexus One. This thing is gorgeous.
thanks guys
Thank you to all who replied
I think all the wow factor phones are getting held up for mobile world congress next month. All I really saw so far that was interesting was the new xperia ZL or whatever it was, but given sony's track record there will be an updated version by march.
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If you're going to be waiting until spring, I'd keep my eyes out for devices using the upcoming SnapDragon 600 or 800 processors that were just announced. The specs on these chipsets are amazing...40 to 75 percent more powerful than our Snapdragon S4 Pro processors.
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If you're going to be waiting until spring, I'd keep my eyes out for devices using the upcoming SnapDragon 600 or 800 processors that were just announced. The specs on these chipsets are amazing...40 to 75 percent more powerful than our Snapdragon S4 Pro processors.
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DAMMIT QUALCOMM... take a break... let me enjoy this feeling for a while.
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DAMMIT QUALCOMM... take a break... let me enjoy this feeling for a while.
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That's the way of the gadget world. As soon as you buy the latest and greatest, it's already obsolete.
Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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I can't wait. :B
Nastybutler said:
Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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This makes me feel better... slightly.
I won't ever consider a Sony phone, especially on AT&T, given that their phones come with locked bootloaders that can't be unlocked. International versions are easily unlocked. By Sony. Just not the US versions. I should know, I had a Sony Xperia Play phone for a while and I recently returned an Xperia TL.
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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I hope they were being ironic... and not moronic.
I only had Sony's first Android phone.
It was meh, I heard they did better after that.
It is AT&T I would never buy.
They are a terrible and lock down all their phones.
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I'm going to have to say the latter, lol.
Funny enough one of those people was AndreaCr.
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I hope they were being ironic... and not moronic.
I only had Sony's first Android phone.
It was meh, I heard they did better after that.
It is AT&T I would never buy.
They are a terrible and lock down all their phones.
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FWIW, they did much better. Their newest Xperia Z(L) looks like magnificent work of art.
As long as you're waiting, see what the S4 has to offer. Samsung's have custom ROM's about 7 hours after the first go on sale. Also, by then, the development on this phone should really be kicking into high gear (knock on wood). Also, you might catch wind of the LGOG2 then.
However, at some point there is about only so much power you're going to need in a handset that everything else becomes overkill. These phones are almost as powerful/fast as a mid-level laptop, but you don't want to type out a long word doc on them or edit an excel file. Finally, this will probably cost a coke and a smile by then compared to the S4 or LGOG2.
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I'm going to have to say the latter, lol.
Funny enough one of those people was AndreaCr.
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Haha! Now in the N4 forums.
johnbyebye said:
FWIW, they did much better. Their newest Xperia Z(L) looks like magnificent work of art.
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Yeah, I love the aesthetics of the xperia phones... haven't looked that one up yet though.
I would never judge a phone by it's manufacturer.
Look at Motorola. We went from the original Verizon Droid to the piece of sh**t Backflip on AT&T. Then we have the Atrix 4g, which in my experience had nice specs, but overall was a terrible quality phone.
HTC use to be the kind of Android phones, and now they have dropped off. (Look at their latest earnings).
Also do not forget the earliest Android offering by Samsung that I can remember - Samsung Moment for Sprint. That thing was all kids of ugly and slow.
I used to work for an eBay reseller, and played with 100 - 150 phones per day. Manufacturer is really irrelevant. You have to look at the unit as in individual.
If I walk into a VW store tomorrow (8/29/13) and buy a Note II.... can it be rooted and ROM'd on the latest software version?
Yes.
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it can be rooted. you can get a touchwiz rom only up to 4.1.2. maybe an aosp rom with 4.3
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So CM 10.2 would be an option and the bootloader is unlockable with the latest factory version?
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So CM 10.2 would be an option and the bootloader is unlockable with the latest factory version?
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Yes. All of the methods are in the original development section.
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Just letting you know they stopped selling phones at Volkswagen. You'll have to go somewhere else.
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Just letting you know they stopped selling phones at Volkswagen. You'll have to go somewhere else.
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HA!
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Just letting you know they stopped selling phones at Volkswagen. You'll have to go somewhere else.
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Just so torn between the newer devices and I have little hope that the holy trifecta of build/updates/camera on a phone these days isn't coming any time soon without throwing a phablet screen on it.
And now.... the Note 2 seems like the perfect device to go to from the SGS3.... I think 5"5 is just about the highest I can go -- though sorta not happy that is only has 267ppi (I am near-sighted even with glasses). The note 3 sounds to be too big, the new Nexus probably won't hit verizon, the HTC One's camera is the worst, and the SGS4 is not my phone....
Oh and Verizon has these coupons that brings a brand new Note 2 down to $204 so yeah
How do you guys like the phone? Are you upgrading or feeling an itch to?
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Just so torn between the newer devices and I have little hope that the holy trifecta of build/updates/camera on a phone these days isn't coming any time soon without throwing a phablet screen on it.
And now.... the Note 2 seems like the perfect device to go to from the SGS3.... I think 5"5 is just about the highest I can go -- though sorta not happy that is only has 267ppi (I am near-sighted even with glasses). The note 3 sounds to be too big, the new Nexus probably won't hit verizon, the HTC One's camera is the worst, and the SGS4 is not my phone....
Oh and Verizon has these coupons that brings a brand new Note 2 down to $204 so yeah
How do you guys like the phone? Are you upgrading or feeling an itch to?
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No I don't care to upgrade. Looked at the HTC One, all the new Motorola phones and still love this better then anything. Rocking goodness rom till I die. This phone is amazing. Goto best buy and have them price match amazon. I got this phone at 200 six months ago
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drtchocky said:
Just so torn between the newer devices and I have little hope that the holy trifecta of build/updates/camera on a phone these days isn't coming any time soon without throwing a phablet screen on it.
And now.... the Note 2 seems like the perfect device to go to from the SGS3.... I think 5"5 is just about the highest I can go -- though sorta not happy that is only has 267ppi (I am near-sighted even with glasses). The note 3 sounds to be too big, the new Nexus probably won't hit verizon, the HTC One's camera is the worst, and the SGS4 is not my phone....
Oh and Verizon has these coupons that brings a brand new Note 2 down to $204 so yeah
How do you guys like the phone? Are you upgrading or feeling an itch to?
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Well, I have a few thoughts on it.
First off, you can't go wrong with this phone. I know we're all kind of still stuck in that mindset that we need the newest device available, but it just doesn't matter as much as it did two years ago. We reached that plateau where the computational hardware is more than powerful enough to run a perfectly smooth experience throughout the OS. Even with the new CPU architecture (A15 vs the A9 in this phone) in phones like the SGS4, the One, the GN3, etc. there's not much of a point in the extra power. When we went from A7 to A9 then single to dual core, it was a big deal. We needed the absolute best hardware to obtain the best experience we could. We've simply past that point.
With that said, 720p vs 1080p, to me at least, also means less than 720p vs WVGA. Even at 5.5" inches, it's really freakin' hard to see the difference. Also, if you have vision issues, you realize that things will be smaller in 1080p vs 720p? Things are sharper because they can fit more stuff in the same screen, and produce the same images at a smaller rate. DON'T "upgrade" to 1080p if that's an issue for you.
The biggest selling point for us, of course, is that the GN2 is the only one with an unlocked bootloader right now. There's hope that the SGS4 will have safestrap (maybe even kexec support too) soon, and while safestrap's great, it's not an unlocked bootloader. It's a big deal, it's getting harder to unlock them with every new generation of phones. Before you go with this though, really take the time to hold it in your hand there. If you're used to using your phone with one hand, it will be a lot harder. People actually laugh at how big my hands are, but I can only barely reach every part of this screen with my thumb.
The One has a beautiful design, screen, etc. but I personally can't give up a removable battery and external sd support. I have barely plugged this phone in because I swap batteries and use an external charger. Furthermore, I never worry about storage because of the sd. I can't give those up.
The Note 3 will probably be the same size as this device with a smaller bezel. It will probably be even thinner too, if the SGS3 to 4 is any precedent. It will be my first choice as an upgrade, but I'm in no rush. I'll wait until I can get a custom ROM/kernel on it so there's established & active development for it. I would hate to be stuck in the situation SGS4 users are in now. Even MDK users, the ones who were able to get their phone before the firmware update, barely have development options because there's such a small user base.
The new Nexus I can't really comment on, there's no substantial information available for it, which at least means it won't be available any time soon. The Nexus 4 and GNex were horribly-kept secrets, so the new one won't be any different.
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No I don't care to upgrade. Looked at the HTC One, all the new Motorola phones and still love this better then anything. Rocking goodness rom till I die. This phone is amazing. Goto best buy and have them price match amazon. I got this phone at 200 six months ago
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I think I might just go with Amazon.... it's only 99 on there now. Going in today just to test the Moto X at VZW... though I know I'm pretty sure I'm going to be disappointed.
Got the G2 on launch day from a Verizon store here in town. Phone is great, no doubt about that. What worries me is that this appears to be a hero phone without much demand. HTC has done a great job of marketing the One, and everyone knows Moto. The G2 on display at the Verizon store is jammed between an iPhone and an older model Samsung something-or-other with no signage other than a huge "Samsung Galaxy" poster on the wall behind it.
If I keep this, it will be the third device in a row that I've bought as a "flagship" which wound up getting the cold shoulder in many ways.
First I had the HTC Incredible, probably the most popular of the bunch. While it did have ROM development, it was quickly forgotten when the HTC EVO came out seemingly a week later. Accessories were few and far between.
Second was the Galaxy Nexus, heralded as a "Google experience" device on Verizon. After endless launch delays, it came out and was quickly forgotten by Verizon and Google both. Accessories were few and far between.
Now I have the LG G2, a great device with awesome specs! I actually don't mind the Verizon/LG "skin" on this so much. But again, Verizon had to **** it up with changing the buttons and making the thing thicker. Accessories will be practically nil for this device other than the three cases from Verizon at launch. There will be countless Chinese imports that will claim to fit but will not, because the back-alley factories making this crap don't give a damn about doing anything per spec. Just make it look vaguely correct and slap a knock off hello-kitty design on the back and call 'er done! "Your Happy Plastic Partner" indeed!
I am also afraid that development will completely stall on this device because everyone will head to the Nexus 5...
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
The moto x isn't selling well (att rep who owns a moto x said he hasn't been able sell a single one) HTC marketing well, are you kidding? They are losing money head over heels even with the one. They only thing with LG is, they have a very small market share they are not Apple or Samsung.
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This forum seems pretty active. I think anyone who develops knows about the phone. Give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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This forum seems pretty active. I think anyone who develops knows about the phone. Give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Yep. Welcome to new xda forum syndrome. This is what a new device forum looks like the first week ?
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DeaconBoogie said:
Got the G2 on launch day from a Verizon store here in town. Phone is great, no doubt about that. What worries me is that this appears to be a hero phone without much demand. HTC has done a great job of marketing the One, and everyone knows Moto. The G2 on display at the Verizon store is jammed between an iPhone and an older model Samsung something-or-other with no signage other than a huge "Samsung Galaxy" poster on the wall behind it.
If I keep this, it will be the third device in a row that I've bought as a "flagship" which wound up getting the cold shoulder in many ways.
First I had the HTC Incredible, probably the most popular of the bunch. While it did have ROM development, it was quickly forgotten when the HTC EVO came out seemingly a week later. Accessories were few and far between.
Second was the Galaxy Nexus, heralded as a "Google experience" device on Verizon. After endless launch delays, it came out and was quickly forgotten by Verizon and Google both. Accessories were few and far between.
Now I have the LG G2, a great device with awesome specs! I actually don't mind the Verizon/LG "skin" on this so much. But again, Verizon had to **** it up with changing the buttons and making the thing thicker. Accessories will be practically nil for this device other than the three cases from Verizon at launch. There will be countless Chinese imports that will claim to fit but will not, because the back-alley factories making this crap don't give a damn about doing anything per spec. Just make it look vaguely correct and slap a knock off hello-kitty design on the back and call 'er done! "Your Happy Plastic Partner" indeed!
I am also afraid that development will completely stall on this device because everyone will head to the Nexus 5...
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
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If you're worried about development checck the lg optimus g's thread its still going today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339403
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If you're worried about development checck the lg optimus g's thread its still going today h://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339403
That link is for p.a.
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I feel the op pain I had the G pro witch I felt was the most underrated phone ever and coming from the note 2 it was way better than the note2 and the G pro was DOA LG has zero marketing as well as a very bad reputation of leaving customers out to dry as far as updates. LG makes bad ass phones no doubt but needs a lot of work in marketing and support
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I feel the op pain I had the G pro witch I felt was the most underrated phone ever and coming from the note 2 it was way better than the note2 and the G pro was DOA LG has zero marketing as well as a very bad reputation of leaving customers out to dry as far as updates. LG makes bad ass phones no doubt but needs a lot of work in marketing and support
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True. That's the literal only thing that worries me... updates. Moto x I'm sure will beat g2 to updates (the other phone I have) but that's the only plus for the phone other than size.
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True. That's the literal only thing that worries me... updates. Moto x I'm sure will beat g2 to updates (the other phone I have) but that's the only plus for the phone other than size.
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I'll never own another moto, there like Apple always one or two years behind in hardware, I mean really 720p??!!! Duel core??
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I'll never own another moto, there like Apple always one or two years behind in hardware, I mean really 720p??!!! Duel core??
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
I have used the moto x and can tell you the 720 display and processor really are fine. The software enhancements kick total ass. That being said this phone Absolutely destroys it on every front. I absolutely hate amoled. Way too dim.
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
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I agree with u on price, but every moto sense the OG X has been one step behind with there flagship phones
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
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This. Everything is fine with the moto x, and I'd still be using it if the battery was decent but lately I've been getting idle drain that I can't figure out. As for amoled, it's great indoors, terrible outside. If LG steps their game up with update frequency I have no problem keeping this phone for a long time. Same goes for the moto x if I was somehow getting the 5+ hours of screen on time per day some people are reporting. Oh, and one grip with lg. Why is there not an option to make the buttons on the bottom like aosp to have the recent apps button and not just the menu...
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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And the fact that they aren't as high profile as the other brands might mean it's easier to unlock
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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I hope so, it was sad to see the G pro DOA. I'm still holding out to see what Scott does, I'm sure the FreeG guys will get the bootloader bypassed
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Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
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No, you do NOT want an HTC One. I just sold my One for the G2...the G2 completely destroys the One in every way except for speakers and construction material, which are two minor things IMO since I prefer using headphones and the G2 feels solid/premium even though it's not metal. The One IS a great phone, but not as great as the G2. I really don't care if the G2 isn't bought in mass by the masses because I know I have a great phone and that's all that matters. I will be a little disappointed if there aren't many custom roms, but I'm OK with that because the stock rom is super smooth and customizable, plus I will be less tempted to constantly swap roms if there aren't many available
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. Oh, and one grip with lg. Why is there not an option to make the buttons on the bottom like aosp to have the recent apps button and not just the menu...
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to like the menu button instead of the multi tasking one. I don't have to look around for that 3 dot menu button on the screen anymore.
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And the fact that they aren't as high profile as the other brands might mean it's easier to unlock
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Wishful thinking, but if its true I'm an LG fan from now on. Maybe since they made and/or making the new nexus they are more lenient to unlocked bootloaders?
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Wishful thinking, but if its true I'm an LG fan from now on. Maybe since they made and/or making the new nexus they are more lenient to unlocked bootloaders?
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Actually I think the blame for locked bootloaders falls on the carriers, not the manufacturer. S4 is unlocked but not on VZW, etc.
LG will do whatever VZW tells them (or lets them). But VZW may not care if they really dont think this phone will sell well, or if they arent marketing it very much (which, as we can tell, they are NOT)
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Actually I think the blame for locked bootloaders falls on the carriers, not the manufacturer. S4 is unlocked but not on VZW, etc.
LG will do whatever VZW tells them (or lets them). But VZW may not care if they really dont think this phone will sell well, or if they arent marketing it very much (which, as we can tell, they are NOT)
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They aren't marketing it AT ALL. I've seen some Droid Maxx commercials though and an even recent Moto X commercial but zero for the LG G2.
not saying i wont possibly break down and buy it at some point BUT..
1. with Jasmine Rom 2.4.1 i have all the software features and will continue to get more faster
2. Note 4 is bigger and heavier and was not expecting that for the same size battery and screen
3. i will not notice the processor bump as my N3 doesnt slack now
4. Finer print scanner - i have zero need for such a thing
5 Camera - this was the only feature that made me want it but i have the camera from a software prospective already and wasnt enough to make me jump
i am in NO WAY DISSING the Note 4 and if i werent on a custom Note 3 i would jump in a second. i just cant get myself to spend the money on it at this time and possibly never.
i have a Macbook that runs around $1,300 and when they release a new one with a better front camera and small processor bump i am not going to spend $1,300 again for such a small change.
sad day as i was really looking forward to it but ooh well
uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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He had to prove a point.
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uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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+1
Also, the N4 is a big upgrade. I bet you were drooling over the Retina screens of the more recent Macbooks when they were released.
Absolutely amazing camera (front and back), snapdragon 805, QHD screen, more memory... Leaves the N3 in the dust!
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jayochs said:
uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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He had to prove a point.
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i wasnt trying to cause an argument or troll. i have a long history here with ZERO trolling of any kind and always try to help others.
i was simply posting in the Note 4 section about the Note 4 and what happened to me today and getting feedback from others. i cant be the only one in this situation of really wanting it but not seeing the $$$ value in coming from Note 3. as i said i would jump in a second coming from anything else like a S4 or Note 2.
Not to diss you in any shapr or form but...why didn't you just post this in the Note 3 forum? When I saw the title I thought was a mistype lol.
Thanks for making your point! I shall go enjoy my Note 4 now
P.S. I do see what you are saying, my friend is in the same boat. If I had the Note 3 I wouldn't jump either unless rom development simplied died with in the next 6 months
It leaves the G3 in the dust, but the N3 is still great and seems the N4 is not enough jump for an early upgrade. 64bit 20nm next year IMO will be.
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It leaves the G3 in the dust, but the N3 is still great and seems the N4 is not enough jump for an early upgrade. 64bit 20nm next year IMO will be.
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i should have added that if it had Lollipop installed i would have probably bought it while i was there. i know its coming but i also know that i would be frustrated waiting while HTC and Motorola get their Lollipops on 1+ year old devices before i would see it on my N4 much like my N3.
maybe i shouldnt have posted this thread here and so forgive me anyone that i have upset but this was a day just like the release day of the S4 and N3 where i was excited and was there to be one of the first and i couldnt (at this time) spend the cash while holding my N3.
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It leaves the G3 in the dust, but the N3 is still great and seems the N4 is not enough jump for an early upgrade. 64bit 20nm next year IMO will be.
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So what are the benefits to 64 bit in the near future? I'm running on the notion that the 64 bit note 4 won't be available for another year and widespread app support is probably another year to 2 years further down the line? I get the benefit of the 20nm process in terms of power consumption and more efficient battery use (though the Note 4 would get me through the day so does it really matter?), but are we really going to see big benefits from the 64 bit architecture before our 2 year contract is up on the note 4?
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N3 is still a good phone, was my goto for the longest time. It was way ahead of it's time when released, and still puts some current flagships to shame (you know which ones I'm talking about).
I just feel with the release of the N4, Nexus 6, 1+1, etc, it's put the N3 as a mid-range phablet and once we get root on the N4 the EOL for the N3 will speed up significantly.
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N3 is still a good phone, was my goto for the longest time. It was way ahead of it's time when released, and still puts some current flagships to shame (you know which ones I'm talking about).
I just feel with the release of the N4, Nexus 6, 1+1, etc, it's put the N3 as a mid-range phablet and once we get root on the N4 the EOL for the N3 will speed up significantly.
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good points and why i stated "not at this time" with my purchase because likely in the future when i get bored and there is root and exciting things happening with the N4 i may jump to it.
i cant get too excited for N6 at all simply because i dont feel being Vanilla it will have those phablet software features i want to make it more than a big phone. we shall see though in that one.
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He had to prove a point.
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He's still not 100% confident about his decision. So it's his way to reassure himself that he make the right decision, or asking others to make him change his mind to return N3 and get N4.
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He's still not 100% confident about his decision. So it's his way to reassure himself that he make the right decision, or asking others to make him change his mind to return N3 and get N4.
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hahaha i guess my title was misleading as i have had N3 since release date and so i just left with what i walked in with. i am sure something will happen to make me switch at some point
with the resale value of the note 3 I dont see why not if you have the upgrade available and are not in the situation of losing unlimited.
I personally love the fingerprint scanner, i thought at first it would be a gay gimmick thing and not work how I use them on laptops but its everything I wanted. I use a complex pattern normally to unlock my phone so being able to easily do the fingerprint works wonders for me. I also tend to like new ish and be with the curve (because you can never be ahead in the existing electronics industry)
just my . 02
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So what are the benefits to 64 bit in the near future? I'm running on the notion that the 64 bit note 4 won't be available for another year and widespread app support is probably another year to 2 years further down the line? I get the benefit of the 20nm process in terms of power consumption and more efficient battery use (though the Note 4 would get me through the day so does it really matter?), but are we really going to see big benefits from the 64 bit architecture before our 2 year contract is up on the note 4?
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Very true on the N5 and a whole year to enjoy the N4. Point was relative to the N3 and early upgrade expense.
64bit makes a HUGE difference without app rewrites for it. Look at the cpu power of the 5433 and the A7 and A8. It makes a huge computational difference.
That said, the only practical benefit is for game emulators for me, since they are 99% cpu driven.
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Very true on the N5 and a whole year to enjoy the N4. Point was relative to the N3 and early upgrade expense.
64bit makes a HUGE difference without app rewrites for it. Look at the cpu power of the 5433 and the A7 and A8. It makes a huge computational difference.
That said, the only practical benefit is for game emulators for me, since they are 99% cpu driven.
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Ah. Haven't really tried game emulators. I really only play cross me color. Thanks for the info!
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Very true on the N5 and a whole year to enjoy the N4. Point was relative to the N3 and early upgrade expense.
64bit makes a HUGE difference without app rewrites for it. Look at the cpu power of the 5433 and the A7 and A8. It makes a huge computational difference.
That said, the only practical benefit is for game emulators for me, since they are 99% cpu driven.
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i am in the opposite court and understand what you are saying for your needs. i remember when i use to buy new laptops every year because they just kept getting faster and i could feel the difference with each new purchase. that changed a few years ago when suddenly every upper level machine met my needs and the new ones although faster on specs wouldnt allow me to see anything new and exciting since i wouldnt be pushing them to see it.
phones like N3 have in that perspective meet my needs already and now i look for new pieces of tech like the stylus the Note series has or its IR blaster, great phablet specific features, and interaction with the rest of my Samsung electronics.
i dont know what will make me jump to a new phone these days because they havent announced what it is yet. the camera i know is better and would be nice but i just didnt see a "need" today.
i appreciate the respectful replies to this thread and as mentioned above i could sure be convinced to buy it sooner than later.
thanks
As long as your happy, all is good.
People who bashed the OP need to chill out. Many come to this particular forum to help them make a decision about buying the phone or not. This thread offers a diff perspective. It belongs here.
Now that the note 7 is officially recalled, what will this mean for those deciding to get a replacement note 7? How will the resale value be affected? Any other downsides to this?
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Now that the note 7 is officially recalled, what will this mean for those deciding to get a replacement note 7? How will the resale value be affected? Any other downsides to this?
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Resale will suck for any note 7...no way around that.
No one is going to trust sammy after this..well not no one but many thats for sure.
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Now that the note 7 is officially recalled, what will this mean for those deciding to get a replacement note 7? How will the resale value be affected? Any other downsides to this?
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force70 said:
Resale will suck for any note 7...no way around that.
No one is going to trust sammy after this..well not no one but many thats for sure.
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They should do like the S7 and S7 Edge, buy 1 get 1 free... sell the fixed devices and honor there guarantee as if it were new,
I'm not too worried about the resale point if view but the one thing that does concern me is if Sammy see it as a failed device and lower or even drop support for it such as bug fixes and updates.
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I'm not too worried about the resale point if view but the one thing that does concern me is if Sammy see it as a failed device and lower or even drop support for it such as bug fixes and updates.
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Its just my opinion but this wouldnt surprise me.
They must realize by now that the boat has sailed on the note 7-there is no recovering from something lile this. People are just not going to want these devices.
Im a die hard sammy fan for years now...have every note since the note 2 but im not even sure when i get my replacement device if i will even unseal it. Likely i will just dump it and go another route.
I also dont see development going big either for the same reasons.. developers dont want a device that doesnt have a strong following.
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Its just my opinion but this wouldnt surprise me.
They must realize by now that the boat has sailed on the note 7-there is no recovering from something lile this. People are just not going to want these devices.
Im a die hard sammy fan for years now...have every note since the note 2 but im not even sure when i get my replacement device if i will even unseal it. Likely i will just dump it and go another route.
I also dont see development going big either for the same reasons.. developers dont want a device that doesnt have a strong following.
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See I'm still on the fence it is such a great device and I can't see a decent alternative. I already own the s7 edge (promised to my wife) and as a lot of us was really looking forward to the note 7. See mine is on order not replacement so I can cancel any time but what else is there to match the note series. I been given a new del date of 29 Oct. Guess I can see how this rollercoaster goes for the next few weeks.
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Its just my opinion but this wouldnt surprise me.
They must realize by now that the boat has sailed on the note 7-there is no recovering from something lile this. People are just not going to want these devices.
Im a die hard sammy fan for years now...have every note since the note 2 but im not even sure when i get my replacement device if i will even unseal it. Likely i will just dump it and go another route.
I also dont see development going big either for the same reasons.. developers dont want a device that doesnt have a strong following.
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Same boat as you I will be due for another jump in no time and not sure if will stay on the note 7. Won't be surprise if it does not see a lick of update
Guys, i've been struggling with the same thoughts this week. I've come to the conclusion that there is simply no phone on the market that can match the Note 7 overall. This phone is the most beautiful, well designed and functional device on the market right now. Any other phone would feel like a downgrade for me. Of course, i could get the Oneplus 3 and wait another year or so for the Note 8 which i'm sure will be a beast, but i will miss the Note 7 and the Gear VR so much, it's really not worth it for me. This device meets every need i have.
Regarding the software, here's my conclusion. Samsung has huge credibility issues and big financial losses due to the recall.
However, buyers of the Samsung Note line of phones are the most pretentious, loyal and enthusiastic of all Samsung clients. Samsung cannot afford to let Note 7 buyers down. In the long run, abandoning the Note 7 is a bad decision. Instead, i believe Samsung will have a big Note 7 relaunch with lots of marketing, we will possibly see new software features, a fast and stable Nougat update, Daydream VR support, possibly a Note 7 Plus (6GB+128GB) launch in December, and anything possible that will keep people talking about Samsung and Note 7 in a positive light.
I choose to believe this, and if i will be let down i probably won't ever buy another flagship again.
What else am I going to buy though? There's still nothing else that has a stylus and is worth looking at.
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What else am I going to buy though? There's still nothing else that has a stylus and is worth looking at.
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Thats the problem.
I will be using my note 4 until something comes along....
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Hopefully they will make a special offer (low cost) to us when the note 8 arrives?
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No one is going to trust sammy after this..well not no one but many thats for sure.
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People have trusted Honda after the Takata airbag debacle. They also came back to Audi after their unintended acceleration disaster. People still fly AA even though 251 people were killed in Chicago due to sloppy maintenance. GM just had their best year ever after going through bankruptcy and covering up an ignition switch defect that killed 124 people. VW will be fine after intentionally cheating on emissions tests. Samsung will be fine too. There's always some short term impact from these types of things but strong brands power through them.
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People have trusted Honda after the Takata airbag debacle. They also came back to Audi after their unintended acceleration disaster. People still fly AA even though 251 people were killed in Chicago due to sloppy maintenance. GM just had their best year ever after going through bankruptcy and covering up an ignition switch defect that killed 124 people. VW will be fine after intentionally cheating on emissions tests. Samsung will be fine too. There's always some short term impact from these types of things but strong brands power through them.
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Oh no doubt they will carry on, most certainly wont ruin them but this is a big deal no way around it.
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