[Q] Verizon's Letter to FCC bout Locked Bootloader. - Motorola Droid RAZR

Now what should we all think?.....Its OEM or Its Verizon to blame for.....
www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/

Found this comment at Engadget Site...
fearlessj 21 minutes ago
Let's be honest, most people use the unlocked bootloaders to install custom roms that can circumvent the software installed on a device to prevent say wireless tethering without paying for a subscription service. This is downright theft of service. Just like it would be illegal to steal cable tv, you are not paying for a service that a company is charging other customers for and using the wireless resources unrestricted.
Verizon has the right to charge for their service and get paid by its users. Yes they are in the business to make money and yes locking the bootloaders protects its interests as well as the interests of the people who honestly pay for the services they use.
Don't fault Verizon for trying to protect its own interests because if you were the CEO of the company and it was your job o talk to the shareholders about what you are doing to protect their interests, that you wouldn't do the same thing.
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If Verizon wants to lock the bootloader, why does it affect GSM users? Verizon is USA based company.... Just curios
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I thought International/GSM variant of RAZR is bootloader unlocked as posted by Engadget last year... damn....

My GSM XT910, AsianRetail (SEAOP) bootloader is LOCKED, and I did not buy the phone from VZW. The current kernel has bugs, where the clock i drifting, 1-2 seconds/day. Same bug in the last GB 2.3.6 for N1. For N1, I patched the kernel source code, compiled and now, my N1 clock is a accurate as before. I don't care about the ROMs, because, stock ROM is more than enough for me. Just give me chance to load and use my own kernel.
Motorola uses Free and Open Source project in the product. They save millions of USD for software developments, so, why not give something back to us. Give us freedom to choose (kernel/ROMs).
Thank you.

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[Q] Need advice about buying SC3 from a previous owner of Verizon

I never used US phone plans and haven't yet used a smart phone.
The previous owner, who claims that he like iOS better and wants to sell his SC3. It is from Verizon.
What do I need to know when buying from a previous owner?
How can I make sure the phone is not locked or deactivated after purchasing it? Shall I take it directly to Verizon shop and have it checked?
You ate in the wrong forum, this is the i9300 forum...NOT the Verizon variant forum.
Also there isn't any need to post twice in Q&A and general

[Q] Unlock for Straight Talk???

I am just an average phone user with not much in the way of technical skills. I am wanting to use my phone to start on a straight talk plan. my phone is currently to Verizon. when I plug the identifying information for my phone into the Straight Talk website it tells me that I can use my phone on their plan as long as it is unlcked. Could anyone offer direction or links on how to do this? Thanks
I take it you have a note 2?
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jrtn said:
I am just an average phone user with not much in the way of technical skills. I am wanting to use my phone to start on a straight talk plan. my phone is currently to Verizon. when I plug the identifying information for my phone into the Straight Talk website it tells me that I can use my phone on their plan as long as it is unlcked. Could anyone offer direction or links on how to do this? Thanks
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I take it you have a note 2?
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yes g3 note 2
Yes, g3 note 2
jrtn said:
I am just an average phone user with not much in the way of technical skills. I am wanting to use my phone to start on a straight talk plan. my phone is currently to Verizon. when I plug the identifying information for my phone into the Straight Talk website it tells me that I can use my phone on their plan as long as it is unlcked. Could anyone offer direction or links on how to do this? Thanks
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Afaik the note 2 is already carried unlocked. Correct me if I am wrong, I thought all samsung phones on jellybean were carrier unlocked. I believe trentsrom is multicarrier aswell.
The note 2 is considered a world phone and it will work for voice and text as soon as you put an active sim in the phone but you must get an apn app from Google play in order to get the data to work a root may be required depending upon if you are running 4.3 be careful when moding because verizon locked the bootloader with the 4.3 update
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AT&T Asus Padfone X Unlock

Hello .. Has anyone found a great method to unlock the AT&T Asus Padfone X Unlock?
ohsirus said:
Hello .. Has anyone found a great method to unlock the AT&T Asus Padfone X?
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*Unlock code
I am wanting to take this to T-mobile
ohsirus said:
*Unlock code
I am wanting to take this to T-mobile
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The only way that you'll be able to do this is by buying the device outright (off contract) and then requesting a SIM unlock from AT&T. Otherwise, you're going to have to buy the device and wait a minimum of 3 months before you can get it unlocked.
dotnetguyaz said:
The only way that you'll be able to do this is by buying the device outright (off contract) and then requesting a SIM unlock from AT&T. Otherwise, you're going to have to buy the device and wait a minimum of 3 months before you can get it unlocked.
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That is precisely what I did and my plan was. After calling they said I need to have 6 months of active service before they will give it time me. I am looking for other options
Root?
Besides unlocking this device, is there any word about rooting floating around for AT&T's Asus Padfone X?
ohsirus said:
That is precisely what I did and my plan was. After calling they said I need to have 6 months of active service before they will give it time me. I am looking for other options
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6 months now???!!! That's ridiculous. I get that they are trying to maintain exclusivity with the device (which is just plain stupid, imho), but 6 months of service???
I absolutely love mine, but not enough to have to deal with those terms. Sorry mate.
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XyonNYC said:
Besides unlocking this device, is there any word about rooting floating around for AT&T's Asus Padfone X?
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Towelroot works perfectly. However, don't expect too much. I rotted mine and went about changing the launcher and such and completely borked the device. I had to do a factory reset on it. Seems that Dynamic Display relies heavily on the ASUS Launcher.
dotnetguyaz said:
6 months now???!!! That's ridiculous. I get that they are trying to maintain exclusivity with the device (which is just plain stupid, imho), but 6 months of service???
I absolutely love mine, but not enough to have to deal with those terms. Sorry mate.
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Towelroot works perfectly. However, don't expect too much. I rotted mine and went about changing the launcher and such and completely borked the device. I had to do a factory reset on it. Seems that Dynamic Display relies heavily on the ASUS Launcher.
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I got a friend that has ATT to check it out. They were ok with him unlocking it because he does have service with them however they couldnt register the IMEI because they need proof of use on their network before they will give out the code. The dont want someone to just by a device and automatically take it to another network. Legere was right the other day.. They will rape you and they are greedy bastards.
If I paid full retail no discounts for a device I should be able to do whatever I want with it. You made your money off me already. Let me do what I please
Cool. Good to know theres at least a way.
dotnetguyaz said:
Towelroot works perfectly. However, don't expect too much. I rotted mine and went about changing the launcher and such and completely borked the device. I had to do a factory reset on it. Seems that Dynamic Display relies heavily on the ASUS Launcher.
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dotnetguyaz said:
The only way that you'll be able to do this is by buying the device outright (off contract) and then requesting a SIM unlock from AT&T. Otherwise, you're going to have to buy the device and wait a minimum of 3 months before you can get it unlocked.
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3 month rule does not apply to ATT. You have to wait for the duration of the contract or pay off the phone if you are on the next program.
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ohsirus said:
I got a friend that has ATT to check it out. They were ok with him unlocking it because he does have service with them however they couldnt register the IMEI because they need proof of use on their network before they will give out the code. The dont want someone to just by a device and automatically take it to another network. Legere was right the other day.. They will rape you and they are greedy bastards.
If I paid full retail no discounts for a device I should be able to do whatever I want with it. You made your money off me already. Let me do what I please
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The phone does not have to be on your account for 60 days. You just have to be an att subscriber and the account in good standing for 60 days. They cannot provide a code to a non att subscriber. mainly because it doesn't work that way. You can get the full details about device unlock at Http://www.att.com/deviceunlock
XyonNYC said:
Besides unlocking this device, is there any word about rooting floating around for AT&T's Asus Padfone X?
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Yes it is rootable i have rooted and unrooted a asus padfone x successfully as i am using my warranty tomorrow :b
Exceptions can be made for certain customers that must travel internationally...specifically for military, or goodwill/missionary work. If your convincing enough you can get it done
I had a lengthy conversation with AT&T as well as a BBB complaint filed against them for just this reason.
A subsidy lock is placed on all devices regardless if it is subsidized or not. They will provide an unlock code only if you meet their ransom demand of 3 full months of promptly paid service on the device in question on their network after paying full retail value for the handset. At that point you can request an unlock code and in 5 to 10 business days you will receive the unlock code by email. So basically you can finally migrate to T-Mobile or another carrier with the device after about 100 days of ownership of a device with an average expected usage of only 365 days.
when speaking to a representative from the office of the president of AT&T Mobility in regards to the BBB complaint I was told this and I quote verbatim what was told to me "If you don't like our terms for sale of an AT&T branded headset you can always choose to buy from another company with terms more favorable to you."
Is unlocking going to be very effective on other US networks?
I mean, if it can barely call/text and would have poor to no LTE/usable mobile data, is it really going to be worthwhile to unlock? That's been the problem with importing previous Padfone models, and I find it hard to believe that an AT&T-exclusive device would be much different...
Granted, I hope that's not the case, because my AT&T contract is almost up and I really need a device upgrade...
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Is unlocking going to be very effective on other US networks?
I mean, if it can barely call/text and would have poor to no LTE/usable mobile data, is it really going to be worthwhile to unlock? That's been the problem with importing previous Padfone models, and I find it hard to believe that an AT&T-exclusive device would be much different...
Granted, I hope that's not the case, because my AT&T contract is almost up and I really need a device upgrade...
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It should work perfectly on other US networks. Imported models don't have the necessary data frequencies for all US networks (especially Tmobile). I'm buying the padfone e (dual sim, quadband wcdma) and using it as my backup phone and primary tablet. I'll use my K910 as a hotspot if I really need mobile data but my tablets are primarily used on wifi.
Twotems said:
It should work perfectly on other US networks. Imported models don't have the necessary data frequencies for all US networks (especially Tmobile). I'm buying the padfone e (dual sim, quadband wcdma) and using it as my backup phone and primary tablet. I'll use my K910 as a hotspot if I really need mobile data but my tablets are primarily used on wifi.
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But how do we actually know if it'll work well? Do we have access to the white sheets, or some other listing of it's supported frequencies?
It just seems like, if it's only on AT&T in the US, then it's probably built for AT&T and less compatible than we'd like.
any hope for non at customers?
I just padfone x and I'm looking for a way to unlock it. I'm not an art customer (T-Mobile). I ve tried unlocking websites but no one has been able to do it. Help!?
italk said:
I just padfone x and I'm looking for a way to unlock it. I'm not an art customer (T-Mobile). I ve tried unlocking websites but no one has been able to do it. Help!?
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I could only find Unlookitnow, but dont' Know if it works... l ended up ordering a Padfone S instead
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As previously advised I am a Tmo customer I used a friends ATT account as a means to get around the unlocking. After about a 1 1/2 months of having ATT open cases and reviewing the account to have it unlocked, it did get unlocked.
This was not an easy feat at all. Literally took calling in almost every other day, speaking with "supervisors/managers" making many complaints to have it resolved.
The concept is annoying that I have to but the device full price and cant do what I want with my device. Glad the unlocking bill was passed even though there will still be a lot of red tape from carriers to get codes.
I am using Tmo LTE and havent had any data issues w/ us bands. Again it was a process, however I ddnt have to spend anymore than what I paid for the device and grateful for my friend for helping me with that.
I can't seem to root mine
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Yes it is rootable i have rooted and unrooted a asus padfone x successfully as i am using my warranty tomorrow :b
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How? I have the pre-june 3 kernel, and my padfone is att of course and towelroot won't work. It says device not supported. I'm not quite sure what the problem is. I've seen plenty of posts from ppl saying theirs rooted without a hitch. Any suggestions? 4.3.3 kitkat.
ohsirus said:
As previously advised I am a Tmo customer I used a friends ATT account as a means to get around the unlocking. After about a 1 1/2 months of having ATT open cases and reviewing the account to have it unlocked, it did get unlocked.
This was not an easy feat at all. Literally took calling in almost every other day, speaking with "supervisors/managers" making many complaints to have it resolved.
The concept is annoying that I have to but the device full price and cant do what I want with my device. Glad the unlocking bill was passed even though there will still be a lot of red tape from carriers to get codes.
I am using Tmo LTE and havent had any data issues w/ us bands. Again it was a process, however I ddnt have to spend anymore than what I paid for the device and grateful for my friend for helping me with that.
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Now that it has been a few months, is it still working good on T-Mobile LTE and HSPA+ networks? Speedtest.net speeds?

[Q] Unlock xt912 droid razr following root.

Hi I have, with help from the forum here, managed to get one droid razr set to root permissions, but looking at fastboot mode its still locked.
This was originally given to me by a family account holder, and we have had an argument so I won't be able to get the unlock code from Verizon.
I am now living in europe and would if possible like to use the phone with another carrier (vodafone is big here).
running jellybean.
I have reviewed the 20 odd page thread on this site, regarding a similar phone locked on verizon, but this thread is a real mess - eg 'this thread is not about unlocking the razr, its about getting it working on another carrier in the US' - 'no its not' - 'yes it is' etc.
for a non techie like me that thread is confusing, but appears to sum up as - ' you bought the one motorolla that cannot be unlocked'
If possible, I am just looking for a way to load a pay as you go SIM in europe.
is this correct?
thank you for any thoughts.
fadobee said:
Hi I have, with help from the forum here, managed to get one droid razr set to root permissions, but looking at fastboot mode its still locked.
This was originally given to me by a family account holder, and we have had an argument so I won't be able to get the unlock code from Verizon.
I am now living in europe and would if possible like to use the phone with another carrier (vodafone is big here).
running jellybean.
I have reviewed the 20 odd page thread on this site, regarding a similar phone locked on verizon, but this thread is a real mess - eg 'this thread is not about unlocking the razr, its about getting it working on another carrier in the US' - 'no its not' - 'yes it is' etc.
for a non techie like me that thread is confusing, but appears to sum up as - ' you bought the one motorolla that cannot be unlocked'
If possible, I am just looking for a way to load a pay as you go SIM in europe.
is this correct?
thank you for any thoughts.
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You need to flash Gsm Patch,here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375489
About that "Locked", it means that our bootloader is locked and it can't be unlocked
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there are 2 different types of locks
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radio band lock
and Bootloader lock
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only need the GSM patch to use GSM outside the USA
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Sm-s367vl Galaxy J3 Orbit | OEM unlock button missing

How would I go about rooting the phone? It's a tracfone. I'm new to these newer phone models.
Wow Crickets.......Were you even able to flash a recovery on it?
Seems like a nice phone but their stupid policy (Tracfone) is that they will not unlock it to a different carrier for 1 year.
I grabbed one of these for my daughter thinking I could drop a sim in it........OF COURSE NOT, VERIZON is on the tool train ABOUT EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME NOW REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT IS FIOS OR WIRELESS OR ANYTHING TV RELATED.....
Boo Hiss. The President needs to start rolling out the Anti-Trust suits or sites like this won't even be able to publish any further in a few more years.
GOOGLE AND VERIZON AND APPLE AND AND AND WILL PUT A STOP TO IT........
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Punching the model number SM-S367VL(GP) into Samsung's web site doesn't even yeild a hit as if they will not even acknowledge they make the thing........jeeze
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