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Sorry if these questions have already asked.
1. when I start the camera app or flashlight app, there is a slight sound in the camera lens area, is this normal?
2. I used to have samsung wave, the earphones provided with it is not woking with galaxy s2. the same goes with nokia earphones. but both works with galaxy s., what might be the problem?
3. the stock music player is good but it lacks bass., i have tried many apps to boost the bass but I am not satisfied., do u guys have suggestions?
thetaurusbull said:
Sorry if these questions have already asked.
1. when I start the camera app or flashlight app, there is a slight sound in the camera lens area, is this normal?
2. I used to have samsung wave, the earphones provided with it is not woking with galaxy s2. the same goes with nokia earphones. but both works with galaxy s., what might be the problem?
3. the stock music player is good but it lacks bass., i have tried many apps to boost the bass but I am not satisfied., do u guys have suggestions?
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3. Power Amp
thetaurusbull said:
Sorry if these questions have already asked.
1. when I start the camera app or flashlight app, there is a slight sound in the camera lens area, is this normal?
Yes
2. I used to have samsung wave, the earphones provided with it is not woking with galaxy s2. the same goes with nokia earphones. but both works with galaxy s., what might be the problem?
Wrong earphones >>>
all my earphones work with SGS2 and 1 .
jje
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thanks for the replies,
I have used power amp., its good, but i think the stock earphone is not that good.
how does soundmagic pl 30 or pl21 compare to the stock?
i am looking for good and rich bass.
suggest me some nice ones (not so expensive)
I know this is not the section to ask questions about earphones but still couldnt resist.
I noticed a strange thing with my phone this week after charging the battery: Yesterday, I charged the battery fully and then used the phone for about 12 hours before I switched it off for the night. Today I started it and had it on for about seven hours. When I check battery usage, it showed only the current seven hours. It appears to have "forgotten" that it had been running throughout 12 hours yesterday.
I switched it off for about an hour today and started it up again to test and now the seven hours are there and it behaves normally. This I have noticed the last two times I charged the battery. The phone "forgets" the first post-charge use but goes on to work perfectly after that. I do not experience this as an issue directly because I think the battery life is very good and the phone works without problems, but I'm curious. Are there any of you Galaxy SII owners who noticed the same thing?
I find stock player +stock earphones excellent .
But i know nothing about music that requires extra treble or bass .
jje
I am using Sennheiser CX 400 II, I think they are pretty good for the price (of course there are better). Using Power Amp bass and treble.
when i plug in my stock earphones and press the menu and navigate (using launcher pro) there is a digital noise in each operation (ex scroll through menu makes a noise also returning to home page makes a noise)
is it the problem with firmware or phone? or is it completely normal?
however these are not audible when the music is playing at the background.
baseband version i9100ddke2 and build number is wxke8.
Sorry for asking so many questions, I am new to android.
Hope u guys dont mind., thanks in advance.
thetaurusbull said:
when i plug in my stock earphones and press the menu and navigate (using launcher pro) there is a digital noise in each operation (ex scroll through menu makes a noise also returning to home page makes a noise)
is it the problem with firmware or phone? or is it completely normal?
however these are not audible when the music is playing at the background.
baseband version i9100ddke2 and build number is wxke8.
Sorry for asking so many questions, I am new to android.
Hope u guys dont mind., thanks in advance.
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As long as you don't go with something like "OH GOD HELP MY PHONE WILL DIE!!!!How do I use the camera?PLEASE HELP!" no,we don't mind.You're cool till now.
Well,that is probably something with the magnetic shielding of the phone or the earphones.Are you holding the phone too close to the earphones?Electromagnetic waves affect the operation of speakers' magnets.Maybe try a different pair of earphones.
I would suggest AKG.They have some nice cheap models(Less than 10 euros) which are actually pretty good.I use a pair of those for when I'm on the go(I have some 70 euro AKGs at home ) and the sound is spot on.Rich bass too.
Hi folks,
Seeing as though i'm one of the first people in the world to get my hands on the device, thought i'd share my opinions and some pictures compared to last years model.
This is the 16GB, WIFI only version purchased from my local Sony store - received 5 this morning.
I was allowed to test the model in the store first, initial drawback was the lack of a micro USB port. You connect the USB through the proprietary slot at the bottom of the device.
I've attached 3 pics of the device out in full sunlight with brightness turned right up.
The device is very responsive and almost lagfree - it's a huge improvement on the Tablet S from last year.
Price is indeed slightly high, but I think it's worth it to say the least.
For me the cons are the power/volume rocker buttons, they are quite stiff and a little far out of the body - quite visible, the other is the lack of micro USB port.
Best improvement is the location of the speakers, now at the bottom of the device, no longer have to cup my hand so it doesn't block the speakers. Looks like Sony are making more of an effort with this device.
Device is lightweight, has a very nice feel and finish to it - good build quality in my opinion.
The device is supposed to be some 20grams lighter but becuase of the aluminium casing at the back, it actually feels heavier than the Tab S.
Screen rotates in all directions. Ability to add widgets as a small app is awesome.
The general look of android on here is fantastic, I love the icons, fair few pre-installed apps too. Feels even better to hold in portrait mode. Feels heavier in landscape mode but lighter in portrait mode. On screen keyboard is responsive.
If you where like me and unsure whether to buy it - I took a gable and it's paid off.
Unlike the Tab S, i've yet to find any bugs in the firmware like the WIFI drop. Quality from rear facing camera is fantastic.
Infact - upon restarting the device, i've just received an OTA which adds more small aps, ability to install smalls apps distributed from Google Play, support write access to SDCard from applications by other companies. Enhanced clipboard function and supports progressive download from Video Unlimited.
This is after 5minutes of playing around - anyone want to know anything just post or send a PM!
My conclusion - I sold my Nexus 7 to part pay for this, did I regret it, not one bloody bit. This is a stunning device, i'd be suprised if it did as bad as the Tab S did.
Few questions:
How's the speaker volume compared with original S?
Any flickering issue while running YouTube or any other app?
How's the default browser?
In 16gb model, how much is available?
Gameloft's latest games are compatible? Can see in market?
Could you try PS3 controller, if you have?
- Speaker quality is alot better than the Tab S and the volume is quite a bit louder.
- No screen flicker.
- Default browser is a lot more responsive and smoother. Chrome is also installed by default aswell as the ICS browser. Flash included.
- Out of the 16GB, I have 10GB available, 80MB is taken up with generic music and videos etc which can be deleted.
- Gameloft games seem to appear, Nova 3, Dark Knight Rises, Modern Combat 3, Men In Black, Asphalt 7 etc.
Don't have a PS3 controller, sorry!
Can't see the PS Store that the Tab 7 had, thought that was included?
Swiping apps from the recent apps tab is very smooth, could almost be JellyBean!
Google Maps is smooth, I like the Walkman app and the Scrapbook.
Very pleased with the device, I really like the Sony native apps. Well done Sony, pulled of a stunner here.
SWFlyerUK said:
- Speaker quality is alot better than the Tab S and the volume is quite a bit louder.
- No screen flicker.
- Default browser is a lot more responsive and smoother. Chrome is also installed by default aswell as the ICS browser. Flash included.
- Out of the 16GB, I have 10GB available, 80MB is taken up with generic music and videos etc which can be deleted.
- Gameloft games seem to appear, Nova 3, Dark Knight Rises, Modern Combat 3, Men In Black, Asphalt 7 etc.
Don't have a PS3 controller, sorry!
Can't see the PS Store that the Tab 7 had, thought that was included?
Swiping apps from the recent apps tab is very smooth, could almost be JellyBean!
Google Maps is smooth, I like the Walkman app and the Scrapbook.
Very pleased with the device, I really like the Sony native apps. Well done Sony, pulled of a stunner here.
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Thanks, waiting for its release in Singapore !!
I can't see the app I saw in a Youtube video where you could fling tv programs off the screen and it would change the channel, it wasn't the remote control.
Thought there was a PS Store too for games or is this not PS certified?
I'll be picking this up this weekend. Happy with what I've heard so far. Sold my Tablet S today.
Have just tried playing a 1080p HD movie in the native video player.
Works flawless, didn't need to convert or anything! Unlike the previous tablet - good to see they've learnt from their mistakes, coupled with this, the screen is fantastic and so is the speaker quality.
SWFlyerUK said:
Have just tried playing a 1080p HD movie in the native video player.
Works flawless, didn't need to convert or anything! Unlike the previous tablet - good to see they've learnt from their mistakes, coupled with this, the screen is fantastic and so is the speaker quality.
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Planning to buy any accessories?
sent from the BEaST Galaxy S3
Wanted the HDMI cable adapter but it's 15£!
Would like the keyboard cover when released and I have the money.
This is a really awesome device.
Although i've tried logging into the Social Life app, but it just produces an error, grr.
Can you do a quick run of Antutu and Quadrant benchmark please ?
Also would love to see some sample photos taken by the rear camera.
Quadrant = 4422.
Antutu = 11463.
Pictures attached, I do admit that one was point slightly into the sun.
Looks good so far. Do you notice any significant improvement in the battery life?
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As soon as the device arrived, I charged it to 100%, it's been on for 24hr nows and it's only at 77%.
The battery drop overnight whilst on standby was just 2% - so yes, big difference, for me at least.
Is elastic scrolling and local search still available?
How bout WiFi direct?
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Hi there ..
Can yo give us a Specific informations about the Antutu benchmark .. ?
a photo with detailed score would be OK .. =)
Also , are yo a gaming Fan , and have yo tried any game .. ??
about the Lack of USB , I've heard it has a port on the Bottom which yo could use as an HDMI port , USB port , or a Charger adapter .. :>
look here :
http://blog.sony.com/tag/xperia-tablet-s
how is the Flash support too .. ?
Open this web page in your browser in the Tablet .. and click on download on step 4..
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
It will open like a " hidden app " in the market which yo can use to download the flash player ..
Let us know how it goes .. and specially for the flash player ..
thanks ... :>
SWFlyerUK said:
As soon as the device arrived, I charged it to 100%, it's been on for 24hr nows and it's only at 77%.
The battery drop overnight whilst on standby was just 2% - so yes, big difference, for me at least.
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That is impressive if its with the Wifi "on" the whole time. No wifi disconect issue i presume?
Update..
of what I've seen, it needs a specific accessory " like 4 inches cable " to support HDMI AND USB port ( 2 in 1 )
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I just bought the tablet today.
It's an amazing unit.
My only complaint?
It's not compatible to ntfs devices. I bought the media stand with 3 usb ports and none of them read ntfs.
I called sony and they said because ntfs is owned by microsoft that android will not allow ntfs devices, which is a load of crap, but however, it's a great device otherwise. I tried the asus tablets with the docking keyboard and would have enjoyed keeping that model but they have screen issues which doesn't bode well with me especially when paying over $500 for a stinking unit.
I hope to root this device to mount ntfs drives, but for now will have to make due with fat32. I don't want to return it because it's exactly what I want.
Any idea when the keyboard case will be out and the cost?
I'd think about one of these if it has an unlockable boot loader and some devs hop onboard. Its basically the same problem I have with the new amazon tablets. I have a nexus 7 right now and I like it but I quite like how the tablet s has an ir emitter. Too bad my bravia doesn't have WiFi either. Couldn't afford it.
Someone with one should check and see if the boot loader can be unlocked.
Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
Have you had a change to play with other new smartphones? How do you feel about them?
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but I find your claim about battery life a little hard to believe. The Z2 has WAY bigger battery and your S2's battery has had plenty of time to deteriorate. Again, not to be hostile but rather interested, could you post screenshots of battery stats after a normal day of use (both phones)?
Now of course I know hardly anything about custom roms that prolong battery life, but still...
strommy1966 said:
Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
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Get rid of that Task Killer, it's the ultimate in battery draining apps. Closing and relaunching apps that could simply sit in RAM? Not helpful.
The Z2 has 3GB of RAM and a stamina mode that can be set to only allow specific apps to run when the screen is off, as well as control mobile data. You'll need another week to use it to its full potential.
I'm a fairly heavy user, streaming Spotify 5 hours a day, watching TV 3 hours a day, Netflix for 1hour, 4K recording, take on average 10 pics a day and Snapchat/Whatsapp 10 hours across my day and still get home with plenty of battery.
Even today, removed from charge at 6.30am, still off charge at 10.38pm and I've 27% left.
Screen on time is at 4hours 35minutes.
Not disappointed at all.
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mstrflsh said:
Get rid of that Task Killer, it's the ultimate in battery draining apps. Closing and relaunching apps that could simply sit in RAM? Not helpful.
The Z2 has 3GB of RAM and a stamina mode that can be set to only allow specific apps to run when the screen is off, as well as control mobile data. You'll need another week to use it to its full potential.
I'm a fairly heavy user, streaming Spotify 5 hours a day, watching TV 3 hours a day, Netflix for 1hour, 4K recording, take on average 10 pics a day and Snapchat/Whatsapp 10 hours across my day and still get home with plenty of battery.
Even today, removed from charge at 6.30am, still off charge at 10.38pm and I've 27% left.
Screen on time is at 4hours 35minutes.
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WOWWW!!!! That's one hell of a battery performance test :good:
Coming from the LG G2 I was expecting to be dissapointed, but Im not, I Love it. The screen is absolutely amazing, the sound quality is supurb!!
Battery life, wow! After the battery life on the.G2 blew me away, I did not think anything could match it, but it does!
See screen shots. This is a above normal day use. Has included music, video, youtube, internet, facebook, camera, games.
Edit: this is with stamina mode on all day.
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I have had Z2 in 2 days now. I have owned Galaxy Note 2 and Note 3 before and now Z2, i found Z2's screen brighter enough and i am actually happy with the screen. I hated the screen on Z1 though which i got for some days in between Note 2 and Note 3.
When it comes to 'Tap to wake' feature. Here's a proof how accurate it is on my Z2: http://youtu.be/qdQz42pDIao (I made the video right now with Note 3)
Strange you can't see letters when the text is large. I have text on small and i am so happy with it. See the pictures below. (You can change theme also).
I find all the new flagships since last year disappointing, and that's why I haven't upgrade from my SGS3 yet.
They all have three or four negatives.
Z2: too big (going from a SGS3 to a Z2 would be hard), overheating issue, 3 minute limit in 4K video, waterproof (it's a negative point for me because I don't want the USB charging port sealed. It's annoying if I have to charge the phone every day), you lose Sony DRM stuff if you unlock the bootloader and root, little development, delays, Z3 in second half of this year, no blocking mode (S5, M8, iPhone and Moto X and G have them and it's an essential feature), etc.
I wish it was 5.5 instead of 5.2...
The custom ROM stuff I quit after I got the Z1. Too much time spent on that with very few benefits. Personally, I rather have the magnetic charging cable.
This all comes to personal preferences. Sony like the other guys tries to appeal to as many as possible...
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jayc1980 said:
Coming from the LG G2 I was expecting to be dissapointed, but Im not, I Love it. The screen is absolutely amazing, the sound quality is supurb!!
Battery life, wow! After the battery life on the.G2 blew me away, I did not think anything could match it, but it does!
See screen shots. This is a above normal day use. Has included music, video, youtube, internet, facebook, camera, games.
Edit: this is with stamina mode on all day.
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Good on Sony for sizing their battery, I owned Samsung S2, S4 and S3, the battery with never lasted more than 5 hour of screen on. where my Z1 easily last me more than 8 hours. A potential Z2 user when the phone can be rooted with locked bootloader. I still preferred 4.3 jelly beans compared to 4.4.2 kitKat. I will not using/buying any Samsung phone in future when they introduced knox which was useless to me.
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my SG device: Z1 rooted 136 ROM by NUT with 2.7.121 xzdualrecovery, mod by GavityBox 3.0.4 [JB]
Samsung S2 in sleeping mode.
Sensamic said:
I find all the new flagships since last year disappointing, and that's why I haven't upgrade from my SGS3 yet.
They all have three or four negatives.
Z2: too big (going from a SGS3 to a Z2 would be hard), overheating issue, 3 minute limit in 4K video, waterproof (it's a negative point for me because I don't want the USB charging port sealed. It's annoying if I have to charge the phone every day), you lose Sony DRM stuff if you unlock the bootloader and root, little development, delays, Z3 in second half of this year, no blocking mode (S5, M8, iPhone and Moto X and G have them and it's an essential feature), etc.
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The Z2 has a magnetic charging port, you never need to undo the flaps to charge it.
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The Z2 has a magnetic charging port, you never need to undo the flaps to charge it.
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This. I feel like this is one of the best features of this phone. I've heard so many complaints about annoying USB-port cover.
I have to call your bluff regarding the S2 battery life. It cannot compare at all to the Z2. The S2 battery was horrible for me, even though mine was also rooted and all. In fact, it was the only phone I ever have to buy an extended battery and it still barely lasted me a day. Note2 was so much better than the S2 and Z2 beats the Note2. So no way I am going to believe your S2 can return a better battery life than the Z2.
Battery is amazing, this was my second full charge cycle. Note my sim wasn't activated, so no cellular signal/connection. According to gsam, it used a fair amount of battery looking for signal, so should be better now.
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Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
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I think you were expecting to much lol..... seriously tho i had samsungs before this, galaxy s then a galaxy note now z2, im loving this phone, ok its not perfect but its not far off and im far from dissapointed, in fact im rather pleased, i tried recording in 4k yesterday, purely because i knew it would make my phone overheat and crash after about 5 mins....... unlike most people i made it past 5 minutes (only by 3 seconds tho) and it actually saved the video...... think i got a good one lol.
Yeah the speakers aint the loudest but the noise cancelling headphones and the bluetooth speaker i got with it more than make up for that. Screen is fine outside, maybe the viewing angle aint as good as the samsungs but its good enough. (On the plus side i work nights so wouldnt be bothered if it was dim anyway)
Battery??????????? Ummmmm you're doing something wrong, for me battery life is much better than any phone ive had before.... ive experianced that with the 'tap to wake' function too, i wouldnt say ive ever had to tap it harder, just doesnt always wake straight away.
in the 2 years since i got my galaxy note i didnt feel the samsung phones were offering anything more, sure id get more ram, bigger processor n bigger screen, but thats about it, the xperia on the other hand seemed to offer far more for me, than the note or any samsung since the note 1.
tl:dr......... Not dissapointed at all.......... yet (still need to submerge it lol)
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Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
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Do you not think smart phones have got to a point where technology has levelled out?
Higher res screens, better cameras, water proofing Etc? All this year's phones are much the same.
What separated them for me was build quality and screen size preference and being waterproof.
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Do you not think smart phones have got to a point where technology has levelled out?
Higher res screens, better cameras, water proofing Etc? All this year's phones are much the same.
What separated them for me was build quality and screen size preference and being waterproof.
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yeah i think you could be right ! okay they tweak them a bit here and there,this one has a few more pixels,and so on, but with the manufactures bringing out so say flagship phones every 6 months, they cant change drastically in that short time. but we keep buying them so i guess they will keep doing it .
Sensamic said:
I find all the new flagships since last year disappointing, and that's why I haven't upgrade from my SGS3 yet.
They all have three or four negatives.
Z2: too big (going from a SGS3 to a Z2 would be hard), overheating issue, 3 minute limit in 4K video, waterproof (it's a negative point for me because I don't want the USB charging port sealed. It's annoying if I have to charge the phone every day), you lose Sony DRM stuff if you unlock the bootloader and root, little development, delays, Z3 in second half of this year, no blocking mode (S5, M8, iPhone and Moto X and G have them and it's an essential feature), etc.
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cant agree, sorry. have gone from the S3 to the Z2 and I love the size of the phone (not everyone has small fingers or small hands lol)
The 4K video limit is on all 4k phones, but exactly where would you play your 4K film? unless you have been twisted into buying a 4K tv where there is not TV programmes for it, (just like 3D withering on the vine)
Charging point sealed? do what most of us are doing, buying magnetic charger no need to open the flap, and its waterproof which your s3 and mine were not
who these days puts DRM music on anything?
only thing I can agree is night time blocking is not very good, but Flight mode suffices for me
oh and the battery performance blows the S3 out of the water, two days out of a charge instead of 12 hours if lucky
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yeah i think you could be right ! okay they tweak them a bit here and there,this one has a few more pixels,and so on, but with the manufactures bringing out so say flagship phones every 6 months, they cant change drastically in that short time. but we keep buying them so i guess they will keep doing it .
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I agree. I mean what else can they possibly put in a phone? Apart from the 64 bit step, I can't see where else they can possibly go. IMO phone, tablet and laptop have all converged; to a degree i.e. phone- mini tablet, tablet- mini laptop. I am actually surprised that phones haven't had upgradeable ram yet.
I am planning to have this phone from my Galaxy S4. Stuffs that tempt me are the stereo-speakers, the premium feel, the waterproofing and that IPS display. I always wanted to have Sony because of the design, but the TFT LCD display is the deal-breaker for me. Now comes Z2 with IPS. Also, I have been using my gf's Nexus 5 with the IPS display, the screen is awesome, brighter and crisp. So I think Z2 would be perfect for me.
And I believe Asian version Z2 has more compatibility with frequency bands than S4 (i9505). Did my research. Hurray!:victory:
I am considering buying a Z2 in the next couple of days as a gift for my wife :victory:, it is stylish, with great power
but after reading about the overheating issue( while normal usage, NOT 4K recording) of this phone and the self cracking back glass of it.
I started to have second thoughts about it
until I read in an article somewhere that this phone uses the heating pipe technology to dissipate heat ( I think the heating issue coming from poor implementation of this tech) and till now (Z3 launch around the corner) sony hasn't commented on
what about having a normal TPU case on the back of it, since plastic can absorb heat from the back glass cover and dissipate it to the air, since plastic absorb and release heat faster than any glass ( some like DIY, Poor man's heat sink)
and what about rooting the phone and throttle the CPU your self by under-clocking it.
I really like this phone and I want to buy it and Sony was close, really close to craft the perfect android phone but they blew it
Also I hear that after batch 14w25, those problems disappeared, is that true ???
please help anyone :fingers-crossed:
I've had no overheating issues whatsoever with mine w19 iirc, under volting /clocking will of course reduce heat, I have mine set to 2ghz and a - 60 uv
Great question so far, I can say to you that DEPEND on the device. some got that issue, some not, and you cant check the 13wxx or 14wxx until you open the tray(which mean you open and use the phone). Just wait after 3 Sep and see which one you prefer. Current price for z2 is around $600 and the z3 is likely $1k when it launch. Hope this help.
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I've had no overheating issues whatsoever with mine w19 iirc, under volting /clocking will of course reduce heat, I have mine set to 2ghz and a - 60 uv
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Heya =) How can i undervolt ? Cause i would like to set mine to 2 aswell And can i do that in stock with only root ? If so please tell me how Thank you
Had no problems with my phone under normal usage. Btw no root just only stock.
If your wife is a average girl who loves shopping online, selfie picture , surfing the net, playing cute games, and Facebooking.
She will be pleased cause this phone is a stylish, beautiful, powerful to enough to her needs.
Most overheating issues are 4k video shooting and camera that was open too long to overheats. If you are playing kritika, high settings will slow the phone but normal setting is a smooth. FYI, Kritika is a high 3d game.
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No overheating problems with mine. Runs quite cool to be honest 38-40deg C idle.
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No overheating problems with mine. Runs quite cool to be honest 38-40deg C idle.
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38-40c ?? That sounded high mine is about 25-29
Croize said:
Heya =) How can i undervolt ? Cause i would like to set mine to 2 aswell And can i do that in stock with only root ? If so please tell me how Thank you
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You need a custom kernel which in turn needs an unlocked bootloader, as there's no sources beyond 402 yet you need 402 fw to use dooms custom kernel or if on cm/pa/pac/carbon there's m5 kernel
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38-40c ?? That sounded high mine is about 25-29
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That might be battery temp? My G3 ran at 50-55degC idle!
thienvandac said:
Great question so far, I can say to you that DEPEND on the device. some got that issue, some not, and you cant check the 13wxx or 14wxx until you open the tray(which mean you open and use the phone). Just wait after 3 Sep and see which one you prefer. Current price for z2 is around $600 and the z3 is likely $1k when it launch. Hope this help.
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I am expecting Z2 price to go down, once Z3 is lauched, and I am not going to pay 1k for a phone, it is not a car, it is not boat, and it is not a rocket...
Z2 is sufficient ( Great Display, Powerful Processor, Tons of ram ) and stylish
my only problem is the overheating and (rumored ) self cracking issue
Normal Usage
styxter said:
Had no problems with my phone under normal usage. Btw no root just only stock.
If your wife is a average girl who loves shopping online, selfie picture , surfing the net, playing cute games, and Facebooking.
She will be pleased cause this phone is a stylish, beautiful, powerful to enough to her needs.
Most overheating issues are 4k video shooting and camera that was open too long to overheats. If you are playing kritika, high settings will slow the phone but normal setting is a smooth. FYI, Kritika is a high 3d game.
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I have 2 kids, so beside taking selfies, there will be serious work for back camera ( at least in superior auto mode)
and there always will be Facebook, instagram and twitter :silly:
and i am sure she will be pleased, now when u say
" Camera Open too Long"
too long means... 2 Minutes of continous picture taking in Superior Auto mode
or 5 minutes 4k video ( I am not going to use that ) what so ever
my problem in that when the phone in action... it tends to overheat ( Facebook, twitter, picture taking) as the reporting suggest
I am right or wrong... please help
yeaterday i went to the store and tried a Z2
the unit was 14w19
I was able to record 6 minutes of 4K video before the phone shuts the camera down because of overheat
from my observation, I think not all units are equals regarding all issues
- Self Cracking
- overheating
- gaps
and I think sony discovered the problems and solved them after 14w25... but it went quit about it
because I haven't seen anyone around the web complaining after build 25 and the ones after it
what do you think men
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That might be battery temp? My G3 ran at 50-55degC idle!
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Wowa dude... my lg g2 was steady 39.. Thought even that was high... Dpends what u got running tho O.O
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yeaterday i went to the store and tried a Z2
the unit was 14w19
I was able to record 6 minutes of 4K video before the phone shuts the camera down because of overheat
from my observation, I think not all units are equals regarding all issues
- Self Cracking
- overheating
- gaps
and I think sony discovered the problems and solved them after 14w25... but it went quit about it
because I haven't seen anyone around the web complaining after build 25 and the ones after it
what do you think men
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How do i know what my unit is ?
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Wowa dude... my lg g2 was steady 39.. Thought even that was high... Dpends what u got running tho O.O
i think this is very hot for a plastic phone in idle time
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see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2757544
matout7 said:
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2757544
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My device is not there, 14w32, Thanks How do i read the numbers? 2014-Week32?
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Wowa dude... my lg g2 was steady 39.. Thought even that was high... Dpends what u got running tho O.O
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My device is not there, 14w32, Thanks How do i read the numbers? 2014-Week32?
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if the theory is right !!!! yes 2014 .. week 32 .. so your device was manufactured someday between Aug 4 and Aug 10 ... that is really brand new phone... hope you enjoy it
if I may ask when did you get it ... ( to test the theory of 14wXX )
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if the theory is right !!!! yes 2014 .. week 32 .. so your device was manufactured someday between Aug 4 and Aug 10 ... that is really brand new phone... hope you enjoy it
if I may ask when did you get it ... ( to test the theory of 14wXX )
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i baught it 4 days ago
Just to support your idea, I work as a phone repair/replace in a phone accessories shop, I hear so much about self crack or do nothing and the screen just crack/broke. It is non-sense. The phone nowadays is equiped by high-quality glass not just a platis or some kind of easy-break-crytal. Be realistic and reasonable. I can give a list of more than 20 devices I use so far which never crack screen or self dead. NEVER BELIEVE in internet 100%, it is reference. If you want more information just go to any phone repair/phone shop and ask that question. Becareful otherwise everyone will laugh at your face.
self cracking
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Just to support your idea, I work as a phone repair/replace in a phone accessories shop, I hear so much about self crack or do nothing and the screen just crack/broke. It is non-sense. The phone nowadays is equiped by high-quality glass not just a platis or some kind of easy-break-crytal. Be realistic and reasonable. I can give a list of more than 20 devices I use so far which never crack screen or self dead. NEVER BELIEVE in internet 100%, it is reference. If you want more information just go to any phone repair/phone shop and ask that question. Becareful otherwise everyone will laugh at your face.
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there is alot in the internet about the self cracking back of sony... with temp suddenly go up/down because of the sudden change in temperature and because of the glass being glass
I don't own a sony, and i am looking forward to buy one... and i am just asking... the argument makes sense to me... and i am not talking about the screen
I am talking about the back glass cover
matout7 said:
there is alot in the internet about the self cracking back of sony... with temp suddenly go up/down because of the sudden change in temperature and because of the glass being glass
I don't own a sony, and i am looking forward to buy one... and i am just asking... the argument makes sense to me... and i am not talking about the screen
I am talking about the back glass cover
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Very well, I lack of the phrase "the back as well". There is no way like that UNLESS you record 4k video for more than 20mins(or gaming bla bla) which cause the temperature up to 50 Celsius degree or more THEN you throw in the water for cooling. THAT is the most stupid thing to do with everything not just phone. Sudden change in temperature from more than 20 Celsius degree(from 50 down to about 30) is causing crack/damage to the item. You can search for it everywhere and maybe from Chemistry or Physic class in high school. Do I say it clear?
Hey.
So i got a chance to trade my used Oneplus one for a used Sony xperia z2 like new with all accessories sealed and the dock head to head.
What do you think I should do and why?
If you have experience with both please elaborate! What's better and what's worse?!
Thx.
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Hey.
So i got a chance to trade my used Oneplus one for a used Sony xperia z2 like new with all accessories sealed and the dock head to head.
What do you think I should do and why?
If you have experience with both please elaborate! What's better and what's worse?!
Thx.
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I never had oneplus one, but in xperia you will surely enjoy the waterproofness.
However there's one important thing while getting a xperia device, a warranty. Make sure that it's there and valid. Also before changing to xperia check whether the headphones jack works.
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Seeing your signature, how do you compare the M8 and the Z2?!
Life Engineer said:
Hey.
So i got a chance to trade my used Oneplus one for a used Sony xperia z2 like new with all accessories sealed and the dock head to head.
What do you think I should do and why?
If you have experience with both please elaborate! What's better and what's worse?!
Thx.
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Surely Xperia Z2 is better.. In Oneplus, CM is Stock.. So no other option. In Z2, Stock is entirely different and its almost as fast as CM ROMs.. OnePlus is good for its price, but when u change to a Z2 its an entirely different game. You would experience a whole new level of Camera experience in Z2(With all the add-ons as well) and also battery backup is better on Z2. Performance is similar coz of the same CPU and same amount of RAM. One more advantage is Z2 is Water-resistant(IP58).. U can take it to swim, shower,etc and have lots of fun.. Also Z2 is built tough unlike Z3 or OnePlus.. U need not worry about your Z2 falling down from your hands.. U should just know how to use the device when u get it.. Use Google and Youtube and xda as well and do a lot of reading so you'll understand the device better..
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Surely Xperia Z2 is better.. In Oneplus, CM is Stock.. So no other option. In Z2, Stock is entirely different and its almost as fast as CM ROMs.. OnePlus is good for its price, but when u change to a Z2 its an entirely different game. You would experience a whole new level of Camera experience in Z2(With all the add-ons as well) and also battery backup is better on Z2. Performance is similar coz of the same CPU and same amount of RAM. One more advantage is Z2 is Water-resistant(IP58).. U can take it to swim, shower,etc and have lots of fun.. Also Z2 is built tough unlike Z3 or OnePlus.. U need not worry about your Z2 falling down from your hands.. U should just know how to use the device when u get it.. Use Google and Youtube and xda as well and do a lot of reading so you'll understand the device better..
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Well the guy was kind enough to handle it to me for trial!
I'm using it and the software is nice, smoothly operating!
However, comparing to Oneplus One I can find the following drawbacks:
-Slow charging! WHY THE HELL ON EARTH DID SONY NOT ADOPT 2amps CHARGERS!!!
-Low volume! Especially during speaker on calls! Closed the windows and turned off the radio while driving and still barely heard my wife!
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Well the guy was kind enough to handle it to me for trial!
I'm using it and the software is nice, smoothly operating!
However, comparing to Oneplus One I can find the following drawbacks:
-Slow charging! WHY THE HELL ON EARTH DID SONY NOT ADOPT 2amps CHARGERS!!!
-Low volume! Especially during speaker on calls! Closed the windows and turned off the radio while driving and still barely heard my wife!
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- Charging is NORMAL in z2 provided its 3200mah and it takes 2hrs n 15 mins approx for me in here from 0-100.
- Low volume on speakers are only on 167 fw which got lower compared to 4.4.2 and i am sure that it will be fixed in next update which will be Lollipop. About calls, enable Speaker Voice Enhancement and it will be more than enough to burst your ears..
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- Charging is NORMAL in z2 provided its 3200mah and it takes 2hrs n 15 mins approx for me in here from 0-100.
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135 Minutes? with the Original EP880 charger and no fast charge activated?
That might be true from 0-80% but i've never managed to reach 100% under 180 minutes.
Haldi4803 said:
135 Minutes? with the Original EP880 charger and no fast charge activated?
That might be true from 0-80% but i've never managed to reach 100% under 180 minutes.
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I used a stopwatch on my other phone to check the time.. Approx 2.40 hrs it was.. Its been around same ever since. Voltages may vary from country to country, depending on the kind of wall socket too.. I see American wall sockets are different, in here in India, we use old fashioned wall sockets, so old fashioned chargers..
I had both and sold the one plus.
Actually I had 3 OPOs, the first one was perfect and I gave it to a friend of mine (because I had allready my Z2).
The second was dead on arrival and after a fight with the oneplus support I got refunded.
The third one had the yellow band issue and I sold it on ebay because the oneplus support blocked all my request.
The Oneplus is a gread phone IF it is in perfect condition, but the support is beyond everithing.
But lets compare the facts.
Batterie lifetime: I had about 6-7h of screen on time with the one and 8-9h with the Z2.
The stamina mode is very impressive and does it's job well.
Screen: If you have no yellow band, I would call it a draw. About the same brighness and point of view.
Bands: The OPO lacks of LTE band 20 so here in Germany two of the major three carriers are NOT supported.
Camera: Sony has an OIS, the OPO not. If your bootloader is locked and your DRM keys intact, pictures in dark scenes are better with the Z2. But only with working bionZ. Rooted they about the same.
Handling: One point for the OPO here. For it's size it fits realy well. The Z2 is just like a brick.