Hi guys,
So I was just browsing ebay and came across a brand new 16 gb nook tablet and was able to grab it for under 200, so I caved in and bought it.
This is my first tablet and I've done some minor homework to figure out what I want to get out of it.
Basically, I've deduced I'm definitely going to root it, the question being whether to go with the CM7 or CM9. Since I'm just going to be using it for general use, I think I'll go with CM7 since from what I've read that is the most stable system right now. I think I can find the resources on here to do that.
The next thing is, I am not interested in buying an SD card, so I was looking around for ways to unlock the full 16gb of memory and saw this thread about repartioning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120&highlight=use+16gb
So basically, I just want to confirm if my approach is correct. Since I want to root it for optimal use and get the full 16gb, the correct things to do are
1. Root with CM7 procedure
2. Follow that thread to repartition
Is that correct? Just want to make sure I have the proper procedure down
Thanks
Well if you're just using it for general use and you're not planning on running intensive games or watching HD YouTube vids, I'd go with cm9. Just for one reason, the layout in apps. Not so much market apps except for a select few they are really well designed but the Google apps: They're so much better laid out for a tablet, cm7 feels to me like you're using a big gingerbread phone and I hate it. Just compare the Gmail apps, just do it. If no hw accel doesn't bother you and you don't mind a little less battery life (its a minimal difference, using wake lock to stop SODs) then definately go with cm9! As for rooting I'd watch Alberctwertz's YouTube channel, great tutorials over there. I don't know about repartitioning, I haven't messed with mine and I have all 12 (well 11 really) gb of internal open to me. Just IMO.
Hope it helps
Sent from my CM9 Alpha 0.02 Nook Tablet
SilentStormer said:
Well if you're just using it for general use and you're not planning on running intensive games or watching HD YouTube vids, I'd go with cm9. Just for one reason, the layout in apps. Not so much market apps except for a select few they are really well designed but the Google apps: They're so much better laid out for a tablet, cm7 feels to me like you're using a big gingerbread phone and I hate it. Just compare the Gmail apps, just do it. If no hw accel doesn't bother you and you don't mind a little less battery life (its a minimal difference, using wake lock to stop SODs) then definately go with cm9! As for rooting I'd watch Alberctwertz's YouTube channel, great tutorials over there. I don't know about repartitioning, I haven't messed with mine and I have all 12 (well 11 really) gb of internal open to me. Just IMO.
Hope it helps
Sent from my CM9 Alpha 0.02 Nook Tablet
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Thanks for the quick response. So if I understand correctly, simply rooting to CM9 will open up 11gb of space no problem?
Also, if I do this, will it be easy to upgrade once an improved version of CM9 comes out?
beantownmh said:
Thanks for the quick response. So if I understand correctly, simply rooting to CM9 will open up 11gb of space no problem?
Also, if I do this, will it be easy to upgrade once an improved version of CM9 comes out?
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It looks good, except in between 1 and 2 you need to have flashed clockworkmod onto the internal storage. Indirect's clockworkmod flasher apk is somewhere in the forums.
And no, it won't free up 11 gigs. The problem is that the /data partition has a huge chunk of storage. That's where all your apps are stored. I mean you could always store things in /data if you really wanted.
Yes, upgrade will be easy. With clockworkmod it's simple, you just select to "apply update from zip", and wipe cache and you're good to go.
Just went ahead and ordered a 16 gb micro sd on amazon for 10 bucks to give myself the extra storage + easy rooting, so that should pretty much cover all the problems.
However I'm still confused about this 11 gb that is "locked" or whatever. After a root, is that data accessible for storage? I'm not really sure what people are talking about in reference to that
beantownmh said:
Just went ahead and ordered a 16 gb micro sd on amazon for 10 bucks to give myself the extra storage + easy rooting, so that should pretty much cover all the problems.
However I'm still confused about this 11 gb that is "locked" or whatever. After a root, is that data accessible for storage? I'm not really sure what people are talking about in reference to that
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If I remember right, its available but not in the "My Nook" partition that mounts on your PC (this will show as .99gb). So you won't be able to transfer stuff directly from your computer to the nook internal. By re-partitioning, you make it so the mounted internal drive is all of the available internal storage.
As of right now, CM9 does not mount internal at all though. CM7 does as well as the stock B&N OS.
you can use CM9 or CM7 or you can just root it. but i recommend either root it or try CM7, CM9 seems like there are many issues.
it has 16 GB, but only 13 GB is available to use, and in that 13 GB: 12 GB is used for B&N content, you have only 1 GB to use.
if you follow that thread, you still don't have 16 GB (because only 13 GB is available to use)
and instead of doing it yourself, why don't you let B&N do it?
btw, you should use sd card, it's not that expensive and you'll need it to root or install CM7,... most programs store data in sd card, you can also use a sd card to backup,....
Before you do anything, i recommend that you boot into CWM from an sd card and make a full backup of the stock tablet. Also go into settings and record all the unique numbers like the serial and the MAC address in case you brick it at some point and have to fully scrub it to unbrick it.
~Tim
Sent from my Nook Tablet using XDA
First, take a look at this thread for creating a Root/ROM/Recovery SD card by Albert Wertz:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1528625
Follow those steps, and you can install any ROM you want on your Nook, painlessly. I second the recommendation that you back up your unrooted Nook before you do anything else.
Saludos,
Steve
Thanks for all the input guys! Will definitely keep you posted once it gets here and I get to work.
I'm still a little confused about the 13 gb that is locked... so even after a root, that is still only available for B&N content...? That's what has me lost, I don't get how rooting wouldn't unlock that to be used for any type of content
yes, why is the 13 gb still un-usable ?
hmmm, if you boot up an 'os' ( cwm 7.2 or 9 ) on the external sd card, and then the internal structure has to stay the way it is... the internal 'has to be' un-modified in order for it to boot up into stock nook 'os'.
but when the dev gurus get all done with the replacement of the internal 'os' ( next month ? ) then we will be 'in charge' and get to use the memory the way we want.
still confused
i can't seem to glean a clear answer here. i have flashed my internal my NT with cm7 alpha final. Can I access the entire 16gb of storage? my storage tab in "settings" shows 5gb. where is the rest???
patterone said:
i can't seem to glean a clear answer here. i have flashed my internal my NT with cm7 alpha final. Can I access the entire 16gb of storage? my storage tab in "settings" shows 5gb. where is the rest???
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You need to repartition. Either have Barnes and Noble do it or do it yourself using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
will b&n do this to my cm7 system
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my storage tab in "settings" shows 5gb. where is the rest, how can 12gb be "locked"
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will b&n do this to my cm7 system
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my storage tab in "settings" shows 5gb. where is the rest, how can 12gb be "locked"
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In order to get the rest, you must repartition your NT so all of the space is usable.
Barnes and Noble's method will take you back to completely stock. You will have to reroot and reflash everything again. That's why it's recommended that you do it manually following the steps in the link I provided.
i just got my nt certified preowned from b&n. df -h shows 5.3G /data and 7.5g /mnt/media. has my system already been repartitioned??
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i just got my nt certified preowned from b&n. df -h shows 5.3G /data and 7.5g /mnt/media. has my system already been repartitioned??
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Oh, then yes. It looks like your NT was already partitioned by Barnes and Noble. They changed your media partition from 1GB to 8GB (7.5GB usable).
ahhhhhh.... thanks so much, i thought i was losing my mind. what i was seeing didnt match up with the above discussion. thanks again
No problem. Glad to hear you aren't losing your mind!
So if I'd like to get mine repartitioned by B&N before rooting I can do that? Do I just go to their b&m store and request to see a technician?
Hello, I would like to use some android apps on my nook 15 GB running 1.4.2 without rooting permenently. I need to make a SD card so I can revert back to my regular nook operating system. At age 70 the more I read the more confused I get, there is just too much information out there. Is there a simple list of instructions with no exotic extras suggested and starting with the 1.4.2 OS?
Hello, hope this vid helps (better than trying to read instructions).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjxZxHoUsY
Thanks for the link but...
I viewed the video but it seems to be about restoring to the original software. I guess I did not explain well that I have an unaltered nook tablet and have done nothing yet. I need first to create a sd card to insert and boot to. My understanding is that I then turn off, remove the card and reboot to access the B&N software with no permanent change to my nook. Is that possible with 1.4.2?
Perfectly possible and exactly what you should do. I'll find a link in a bit, busy at the moment.
If you run CM7 from an SD card you can do a power on start to CM7 and reboot back to native nook. Booting to the SD version does nothing to the internals of the nook. The following address should get you to the development thread for CM7 alpha final. Follow the instructions for the SD version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826
I suggest a Sandisk Class 4 micro SD card. Depending on how much material you intend to download, get an appropriate size card. I am using an 8 GB and I have allocated all the leftover space to the last partition.
Directions are easy. Download the file and unzip to get the image. Use the win32diskimager program to write the image to the SD. CAUTION here be sure it is the SD that you write the image to. Google Mini Partition Wizard Home Edition and download the home edition noted as freeware to reallocate the SD space. That is simple as well. Go to the bottom partition and move the slider to the right and then save.
If you have specific questions please post and someone will respond.
Bill
I apologize for misunderstanding your original post, anyway here's another YouTube vid you can check out...hopefully this one works out for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxKO8-seTLU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679089
Generally, if you follow the steps above (short of installing the Asian apps), you'll be fine. Easy 1/2 hour to 1 hour to go through the downloading of apps, OS, Root image, etc. to having a bootable Nook that's running off the MicroSD card.
Keep in mind that ROOTing the Nook (easy, doesn't hurt) is needed to prevent B&N from disabling your external MicroSD card CM7 OS boot in the future. (You can skip ROOTing if you want to tempt fate later on however....)
Keep in mind that Sandisk MicroSD cards are generally recommended for their stability, speed, and trouble free use. You can use other brands, but if you encounter an error with your new OS, use a Sandisk card instead.
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Keep in mind that ROOTing the Nook (easy, doesn't hurt) is needed to prevent B&N from disabling your external MicroSD card CM7 OS boot in the future. (You can skip ROOTing if you want to tempt fate later on however....)
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This is only really necessary if you think B&N will push some update that will affect the current method used to bypass the bootloader.
This would imply a level of intelligence I don't think them capable of.
aquarian1 said:
Is there a simple list of instructions with no exotic extras suggested and starting with the 1.4.2 OS?
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Hi, Aquarian1. I'm old, too.
Did you get it figured out? It really is fairly straightforward once you understand what each basic step is doing. You can practice repeatedly until you get comfortable without doing any harm or damage.
Let us know how it's going. The folks here are awesome. We'll get you there!
I have a 16gb Nook Tablet that has firmware version 1.4.3 and I would like to run one of the CM roms internally. I am thinking about trying to run CM10 because from what I have read it has finally become stable (please correct me if I am wrong).
Over the last couple of months I have been skimming through this forum reading thread after thread trying to get a grip on the process. I have a 8gb class 4 Sandisk micro SD card that I would like to use for this. From what I understand I do not need to root the tablet first if I am going to flash a rom straight onto it.
So does anyone have a favorite method for going from a stock Nook Tablet to CM7 or CM10? I also wonder whether it is easier to use Windows or a linux OS to do this. I have Ubuntu on my Desktop and Windows 7 on my laptop so I can do either one. Also, how do you create a clone or image of my Nook and SD card so that I can revert back to them if anything goes wrong?
Edit: Do I need to repartition the NT hard disk like explained here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23272909#post23272909 or does that no longer matter once the new Rom has been installed?
GonzoT said:
I have a 16gb Nook Tablet that has firmware version 1.4.3 and I would like to run one of the CM roms internally. I am thinking about trying to run CM10 because from what I have read it has finally become stable (please correct me if I am wrong).
Over the last couple of months I have been skimming through this forum reading thread after thread trying to get a grip on the process. I have a 8gb class 4 Sandisk micro SD card that I would like to use for this. From what I understand I do not need to root the tablet first if I am going to flash a rom straight onto it.
So does anyone have a favorite method for going from a stock Nook Tablet to CM7 or CM10? I also wonder whether it is easier to use Windows or a linux OS to do this. I have Ubuntu on my Desktop and Windows 7 on my laptop so I can do either one. Also, how do you create a clone or image of my Nook and SD card so that I can revert back to them if anything goes wrong?
Edit: Do I need to repartition the NT hard disk like explained here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23272909#post23272909 or does that no longer matter once the new Rom has been installed?
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Since you're new to flashing ROMs you might want to use this
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
Its an SDC image. Just write to your SD card and you're good to go. Once you learn a little more you can internally flash. Flashing without knowing what you're doing may cause problems which could essentially reformat or erase internal partitions.
Edit: You can use whatever operating system you want. Ubuntu can read all your partitions though. Windows can only read some. But that probably won't matter if you're new.
Thank you so very much. That was incredibly easy. Now I'm going to spend the rest of the evening messing around with this and finding out what I should have been doing all along with this tablet.
Nook Tablet newb here. Some experience with rooting and flashing roms on GS3.
Currently working on my mothers nook tablet. She has the 8gb BNTV250A Nook Tablet currently with a 2gb/4gb partition setup. She is not satisfied with the amount of space she has for BandN books and such. From what I understand there is a way to re-partition the drives to give it a 5gb/1gb partition. This I believe would allow for any of the non BandN data to also be stored on the sd card as normal.
Now I have tried to do some research in order to find the correct procedure to root/backup/re-partition and have had no luck. Majority of what I have been finding is in regards to the 16gb versions. I know that it would be a bad idea to try to alter a 16gb procedure for a 8gb.
Is there a guide specifically for what I am trying to do? Or is there a easy click method (wishful thinking here)?
Thanks for help in advance and my apologies if anything has been asked like this before.
gtoninn :good:
There is an old thread on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562130.
There is also a ready-made repart.img tool http://raywaldo.com/2012/06/make-unbrick-repartition-image/, although it does not provide for customized selection of userdata/media partition sizing.