Are we getting latest and greatest Android OS?
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As explained in many posts, the flyer is expected to get an htc release of ICS... but the view has yet to be mentioned and is currently EOL via sprint, so the chances of an htc release is slim.
Sorry but isn't a view is a flyer?
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mostly, but the flyer has a gsm radio and the view has a cdma radio. flashing one to the other is only good for bricking.
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mostly, but the flyer has a gsm radio and the view has a cdma radio. flashing one to the other is only good for bricking.
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That's not quite the only difference. They have a different chipset too.
As for ICS, eventually, but seeing as how the view only just got HC 3 months ago I wouldn't count on any official (HTC) builds hitting us until the end of the year IMO. If i'm wrong, i'm wrong.
Holding out for Jelly Bean...............
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As explained in many posts, the flyer is expected to get an htc release of ICS... but the view has yet to be mentioned and is currently EOL via sprint, so the chances of an htc release is slim.
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Expected by whom?
I have heard nothing but rumors. Flyer is not on any list the HTC has published or endorsed.
I wouldn't expect it.
Doubt so. I think HTC have finished announcing their 'waves'
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Samsung Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S not getting ICS due to Touchwiz bloat.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/23/2...and-galaxy-tab
LOL
same excuse as HTC for some of their Sense devices.
I heard a rumour that the HTC support people had leaked ics was coming to the flyer in q1... Not saying it's true but it seems a lot sites liked up on it and spread it.
androidcommunity.com/htc-flyer-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrade-tipped-by-customer-service-20120123/
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DigitalMD said:
Samsung Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S not getting ICS due to Touchwiz bloat.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/23/2...and-galaxy-tab
LOL
same excuse as HTC for some of their Sense devices.
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BUT, Flyer has 1GB RAM
Their new HTC One V,only has 512mb RAM, but comes with latest sense 4
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Sunamon said:
I heard a rumour that the HTC support people had leaked ics was coming to the flyer in q1... Not saying it's true but it seems a lot sites liked up on it and spread it.
androidcommunity.com/htc-flyer-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrade-tipped-by-customer-service-20120123/
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Old rumor discussed at length about two months ago, never confirmed by anyone at HTC.
http://htc-dev.net/la-tablette-htc-flyer-ne-recevra-pas-la-ics
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HTC-Dev isn't HTC, it's just more rumors on another forum. Official info is here:
https://www.facebook.com/HTC?sk=notes
If they ever announce the view/flyer getting ICS, it'll go there.
blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics
no flyer, thanks HTC!
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blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics
no flyer, thanks HTC!
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There you have it.
so the only thing to do :
belive in xda-dev
Wow just reading the blog, so many people are asking about flyer and HTC decided not to include in the ICS roll out.... Fully capable and able device like View/Flyer should be getting it first, I bet they cant integrate the scribe in to it or its taking them a very long time to do it and this is why they are not putting it forward.... This really is a sad day for us HTC flyer/view users
I have faith in God, everyone else must pay up front. LOL
I ve contacted HTC support and confirmed thats there is no scheduled update since now. I think that means we will never see any update for Flyer. HC turned out very buggy I cant even make skype calls, music sounds strage in high volume, flash player plays only via explorer and nowhere else eg fb, and many others. I ve just downgrade to GB and my Flyer is usable again with no bugs till now. ps I ve asked support how to downgrade and they anwered that I just cant. My opinion is that there will be no update even for bugs HTC just dont care for HTC Flyer anymore they consider it as a dropped project.
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according to this guy all's going to b allright
I wish the Evo was getting it!
-Kendall
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I wish the Evo was getting it!
-Kendall
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it is, isn't it? I see it mentioned in the list..
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it is, isn't it? I see it mentioned in the list..
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Sorry, I mean the Evo 4G. The Evo 3D is getting it
-Kendall
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Wait who's this guy?
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Wait who's this guy?
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+1. I would like to know who this gent is as well. I hope that list is correct. Interesting the thunderbolt isn't on the list.
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Wait who's this guy?
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apparently some guy who works (worked?) for HTC as a Sense developer.
Well after this awesome update to hc (rather lack there of) I am very weary of any news about an ics update for our device
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I hope this is true. I suppose there might be an argument that since this is one of the few tablets with a pen, an ICS update (with more pen-utilizing code) would show off its capabilities better. And maybe the delay in HC is that internally within HTC a shift toward ICS was decided upon to save resources. Well, here's hoping. I would prefer ICS over HC, especially for the pen capabilities.
Well there you have it. We are saved. . If this guy says it, it must be true.
By the way, Acer and Motorola have announced January ICS updates to tne A100 and A500 and Xoom
Yeah, we'll get it when Jello Mold (or whatever) comes out.
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Yeah, we'll get it when Jello Mold (or whatever) comes out.
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LOL yeah then they will get sued for copyright!
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Check this out - a Sense UI developer, Rasiwasia Samarth, is reporting that the Flyer is on the ICS update list (his opinion):
http://www.netbooknews.com/37668/htc-flyer-gets-android-4-0-phones-get-5gb-of-online-storage/
Sadly that's a link to a 'news' website, who has picked on the same Google+ posting that starts this thread.
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Check this out - a Sense UI developer, Rasiwasia Samarth, is reporting that the Flyer is on the ICS update list (his opinion):
http://www.netbooknews.com/37668/htc-flyer-gets-android-4-0-phones-get-5gb-of-online-storage/
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Uhhh dude. This is discussed in the first post. Check the link.
Futhermore, take this list with a grain of salt. The Nexus One is also on his list and engadget just reported that the Nexus One will not be recieving the upgrade.
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Agree, take it with a pinch of salt.
I'd be surprised that HTC allow employees to publish that kind of information, when it's not saying anything publically at the moment.
I realise that he does say that this is his opinion, but if really a "Sense" developer that opinion would have to have been formed based on "inside" information, and hence I'd have thought he wouldn't be 'employee of the month' at the moment.
Untrusting in me, suspects the his/her closest connection to HTC is ownership of a device.....but I'd have to add that this is his/her only post that I've seen. There maybe posts which would give more crediblity to their claims.
Iain
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Agree, take it with a pinch of salt.
I'd be surprised that HTC allow employees to publish that kind of information, when it's not saying anything publically at the moment.
Iain
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Why don't these companies make it public if they are working on a update? I really don't see harm in it. This hard to get game drives me further away from them. Specially when a device comes out and they promise so much with it and then once they pocket your bucks, they some what push you away or forget about you.
"BAD HTC. You big player now? so you think you treat your customers bad! This will only bring your downfall. You climb too fast and you lose your grip - you fall fast and you fall hard. I for one wont be there with life net if you keep treating me like this".
Sorry for expressing my compressed anger at htc here. I dont have fb account to message them there.
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Uhhh dude. This is discussed in the first post. Check the link.
Futhermore, take this list with a grain of salt. The Nexus One is also on his list and engadget just reported that the Nexus One will not be recieving the upgrade.
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My apologies to all for being so dumb...and polyanna...and hopeful...and assuming that since a working alpha of HC was in the wild it made perfect sense that HTC would switch resources for the cross platform (smartphone & tablet) ICS version of Android...no intention to insult your collective intellligence...
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My apologies to all for being so dumb...and polyanna...and hopeful...and assuming that since a working alpha of HC was in the wild it made perfect sense that HTC would switch resources for the cross platform (smartphone & tablet) ICS version of Android...no intention to insult your collective intellligence...
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No, I agree it makes sense to switch to ICS but they should communicate with their customers in some official form. This way we won't get our hopes up when some guy posts a "maybe" list on his google+ page.
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HTC Sense + ICS might be an overkill...
I would be just happy with a sense-less ICS running on the flyer. CM team needs to add this baby to their arsenal.
I don't know if its just me. But are HTC Amaze owners like LAST to get anything? I swear it looks like there has been a leaked ICS for every phone but ours. Crap, even the 5 year old HD2 from HTC has an ICS ROM. If HTC is really testing the ICS (Which Im starting to doubt) for the Amaze, we would at least hear SOMETHING from them besides, (er... 1st Quarter 2012). I don't know, starting to me sound like they just string us along.
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I don't know if its just me. But are HTC Amaze owners like LAST to get anything? I swear it looks like there has been a leaked ICS for every phone but ours. Crap, even the 5 year old HD2 from HTC has an ICS ROM. If HTC is really testing the ICS (Which Im starting to doubt) for the Amaze, we would at least hear SOMETHING from them besides, (er... 1st Quarter 2012). I don't know, starting to me sound like they just string us along.
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I dunno if it's just me but it appears a few people's timelines are messed up. From every resource I've found the htc hd2 was released at the earliest 3-4quarter 2009 which makes it... Closer to 2.5 years old /off soapbox. But no, this isn't the case there are many, many phones without the hd2 is a great developer phone and due to its popularity and time it's been out the devs know it in and out and what needs to be done to get ics working, same with the vibrant, now. Last I checked gs2 doesn't have any ics. And nor does the mytouch lg devices and afaik mytouch slide among others I could be wrong but I don't believe so. Anyway man we'll get ics. Just takes time it's only been released for a few months now.
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Gs2 does have ICS look it up on youtube
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I don't believe the tmobile version does not sure about others, like I said based on last time I checked. But either way there are multiple phones without ics. And ours will come patience is a virtue.
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Crap, even the 5 year old HD2 from HTC has an ICS ROM.
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LOL I had ICS on my HD2 before it died
Like LordDart said HD2 has alot of dev support which is what made it rock but yea anyways we'll eventually get ICS either from HTC or X.
It does suck though that they keep delaying it, but like many people have already said, better to wait and get something badass rather then get some half assed ICS port. I personally dont mind the wait too much since atleast we have gingerbread which isnt bad at all unlike some of the older versions like Froyo.
Thanks rx, plus, jeez I'm coming from a vibrant... Now we got really screwed. We didn't get official froyo for a long frigging time... And the difference between froyo and eclair was... Well the difference between champagne and carbonated piss... So waiting on froyo for that long was dang frustrating. Even our roms didn't have working gps on froyo for a long time, never got real cm support. Afaik. But now? Now the development there is ridiculously awesome. It's still a great phone. But yeah our phone is smooth and snappy as is... Unlike the vibrant ran outta box. For many months... So don't feel too bad we have a solid phone with some great devs.
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I don't believe the tmobile version does not sure about others, like I said based on last time I checked. But either way there are multiple phones without ics. And ours will come patience is a virtue.
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I just left the t-mobile gs2. There is no ICS rom. There is also still no official word from Samsung about the update. They say the gs2 will get but no mention of the t-mobile variant. So at least the amaze is mentioned.
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I just left the t-mobile gs2. There is no ICS rom. There is also still no official word from Samsung about the update. They say the gs2 will get but no mention of the t-mobile variant. So at least the amaze is mentioned.
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im working on ics over there for them too guys haha
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im working on ics over there for them too guys haha
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I saw that a couple of days before I made the move over here. I need to get a new computer so I can root this thing.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57402420-94/android-5.0-aka-jelly-bean-rumored-for-q3-release/
Google I/O is in Q3 so we can probably expect it by then.
Just for those of you wondering how long until Jellybean. Hopefully, if they keep releasing new versions, manufacturers will start dropping their skins so they can keep up. (I know that's never going to happen, but wishful thinking!)
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57402420-94/android-5.0-aka-jelly-bean-rumored-for-q3-release/
Google I/O is in Q3 so we can probably expect it by then.
Just for those of you wondering how long until Jellybean. Hopefully, if they keep releasing new versions, manufacturers will start dropping their skins so they can keep up. (I know that's never going to happen, but wishful thinking!)
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coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
I wonder if HTC will just give up and release just ICS for their older phones and work on Jelly Bean for their new ones
Bloody HTC, I doubt our phones will ever get an official release of this.
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Bloody HTC, I doubt our phones will ever get an official release of this.
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The Evo 4G will never and was never planned to receive ICS, and yet there are completely functioning ICS builds available for it, with working camera on top of everything else besides the obvious 4G (and maybe a few other things, I haven't followed OG Evo development since I upgraded to this phone).
Official releases aren't a huge deal unless we need them to fix something. The problem with ICS on our phones have to do with the difference between it and GB, as well as our camera. I do not foresee JB to be a big difference from ICS, kind of like Froyo to GB.
So in the end an official release won't matter as long as JB isn't a huge difference over ICS, and we can use the official ICS release in order to make sure the camera works.
You're going to be able to run JB on this phone, do not worry.
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The Evo 4G will never and was never planned to receive ICS, and yet there are completely functioning ICS builds available for it, with working camera on top of everything else besides the obvious 4G (and maybe a few other things, I haven't followed OG Evo development since I upgraded to this phone).
Official releases aren't a huge deal unless we need them to fix something. The problem with ICS on our phones have to do with the difference between it and GB, as well as our camera. I do not foresee JB to be a big difference from ICS, kind of like Froyo to GB.
So in the end an official release won't matter as long as JB isn't a huge difference over ICS, and we can use the official ICS release in order to make sure the camera works.
You're going to be able to run JB on this phone, do not worry.
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I know the phones hardware is more than capable of handling JB. And I'd agree with everything you said, but our phone has some unique needs that others don't. Like you mentioned, the 3d/camera is one of them and also Wimax. ICS has been around for quite a while and there isn't a single ICS build for our phone that is a nice stable daily driver. Getting some of our phone's features to work without the help of HTC may be a bit tough. The development scene of the Evo 3D isn't huge either, though thankfully we have many great devs.
I came to the Evo 3d from the HTC HD2, now that's a phone that seems to be able to run just about anything. Ridiculously massive development scene. It had ICS running long before many other phones and it isn't even an android phone.
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I know the phones hardware is more than capable of handling JB. And I'd agree with everything you said, but our phone has some unique needs that others don't. Like you mentioned, the 3d/camera is one of them and also Wimax. ICS has been around for quite a while and there isn't a single ICS build for our phone that is a nice stable daily driver. Getting some of our phone's features to work without the help of HTC may be a bit tough. The development scene of the Evo 3D isn't huge either, though thankfully we have many great devs.
I came to the Evo 3d from the HTC HD2, now that's a phone that seems to be able to run just about anything. Ridiculously massive development scene. It had ICS running long before many other phones and it isn't even an android phone.
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I can agree with that, mostly. What I'm trying to say is that, after a release from HTC, we hopefully won't have to worry too much about JB in the future.
Plus as long as jellybean drops within eighteen months technically we are supposed to get it .
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I would almost be happy if jelly bean would wait, I would like to see a aosp ics rom fully functional first. We haven't seen a really smooth aosp rom out of alpha yet for the 3d. Either way. Just getting tired of sense but that's just me.
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ace9988 said:
coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
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A little optimistic?
ace9988 said:
coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
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lol... even though they will initially anounce "early" or "first quarter" 2013!
ace9988 said:
coming to HTC....sometime much later in 2013
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That's when we get ics on the 3D
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People talking about jellybean, not even realizing its not for phones.
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That's when we get ics on the 3D
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lmao...
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People talking about jellybean, not even realizing its not for phones.
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Not confirmed so I wouldn't spread it like it is.
This is a rumor at time of writing
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Jelly bean Pfft get ICS working before they come out with something else
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People talking about jellybean, not even realizing its not for phones.
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Careful with those words as that's not even close to being confirmed...nor does it make much sense...
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Jelly bean Pfft get ICS working before they come out with something else
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With that I totally agree
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Even when jelly bean gets released you can easily add another 12 months onto that before there's a working evo version
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Hey guys, why are people talking about jailbait in this thread?
So guys since all revolves around the buck, i think that we should start a e.g kickstarter for htc flyer ICS or jelly bean update, if we get a reasonable found htc could make it for us..
I shall send them a email asking what they think about it and how much would they need, kep you updated
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So guys since al revolves around the buck, i think that we should start a e.g kickstarter for htc flyer ICS or jelly bean update, if we get a reasonable found htc could make it for us..
I shall send them a email asking what they thing about it and how much wouldbthey need, kep you updated
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Seems like a neat idea. Hope you are able to work it out.
Problem would be that they would never say that it's about cost, because they have already said that it is about performance, at least through unofficial channels.....
Best of luck!
I think something in the range of $10 million US would be a good starting point for HTC. Considering they paid $300 million for a glorified equalizer (Beats).
What are we doing exactly? I'm confused
I think the proposal is to pay HTC to support their own device !
I don't think it will work.
It will be funny to see what they say though - cos' they should be ashamed....
Top marks to the OP for taking the game back to HTC ...
Lol I don't think all 250 of us will be able to raise enough money
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Yea...um...Nexus 7 anyone?
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I'll be getting one eventually but in the meantime think its time to just make the most out of what we have with the flyer. Senseless, the best honeycomb rom, and LISBON, the only AOSP ICS Rom we have. Could be worse, we could have Views lol.
Anyway for the time being lets all just give up on Jelly bean and focus on what we have. I've complained more than anyone, but I'm over that, I'm all about helping where ever I can to make sure the flyer experience doesn't suck. And besides, the whole portrait oriented nature of Jelly bean makes me kind of want to pass on it anyway.
I gotta thank Wadegeek for calling me out for being such a crybaby. Honestly the flyer is only as bad as you make it out to be. And updates are over-rated, a perfectly fast working honeycomb is as good as any ics or jellybean rom...well minus support for chrome that is lol.
and its just beyond time to give up on htc. The writing is on the wall, HTC is done making them, done supporting them, and betting their future on the one series. Any future updates will have to come from ourselves.
And seeing how little signatures we got on the petition shows why htc gave up on it. The flyer was a flop. Like the Apple Newton, Nintendo Virtual Boy, Sega Saturn, HD Radio its a flop. but difference is its open source android so we can do something about it.
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Cor-master said:
I'll be getting one eventually but in the meantime think its time to just make the most out of what we have with the flyer. Senseless, the best honeycomb rom, and LISBON, the only AOSP ICS Rom we have. Could be worse, we could have Views lol.
Anyway for the time being lets all just give up on Jelly bean and focus on what we have. I've complained more than anyone, but I'm over that, I'm all about helping where ever I can to make sure the flyer experience doesn't suck. And besides, the whole portrait oriented nature of Jelly bean makes me kind of want to pass on it anyway.
I gotta thank Wadegeek for calling me out for being such a crybaby. Honestly the flyer is only as bad as you make it out to be. And updates are over-rated, a perfectly fast working honeycomb is as good as any ics or jellybean rom...well minus support for chrome that is lol.
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Agree，all we need is a good enough rom that we can use everyday without turning into rage.
Senseless and lisbon is getting close to that. Forget HTC, they already get ride of the flyer.....I doubt whether the flyer team exist now.
Ok people time to grow up a bit. I don't get this endless rage against HTC for "ignoring" the Flyer, I really don't. You guys act like you got burned when HTC didn't update the Flyer to ICS, but last I checked they never promised they would. Nobody ever said "Oh yeah buy a Flyer/View, it'll get ICS." If somebody had told you that I'd get the anger, but I seriously doubt they did. So enough with the *****ing, and saying "HTC should be ashamed" crap, it's pointless and worthless. This is yet another thread that has gotten de-railed with it, so unless you guys have something to add to the kickstart effort take it to your own thread or PM or something.
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Ok people time to grow up a bit. I don't get this endless rage against HTC for "ignoring" the Flyer, I really don't. You guys act like you got burned when HTC didn't update the Flyer to ICS, but last I checked they never promised they would. Nobody ever said "Oh yeah buy a Flyer/View, it'll get ICS." If somebody had told you that I'd get the anger, but I seriously doubt they did. So enough with the *****ing, and saying "HTC should be ashamed" crap, it's pointless and worthless. This is yet another thread that has gotten de-railed with it, so unless you guys have something to add to the kickstart effort take it to your own thread or PM or something.
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"MOMMY WOW, I'M A BIG KID NOW"
on a side note please throw your money at my kickstart, I'm making an ICS Rom for the Nokia 8250.
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mectavo said:
Agree，all we need is a good enough rom that we can use everyday without turning into rage.
Senseless and lisbon is getting close to that. Forget HTC, they already get ride of the flyer.....I doubt whether the flyer team exist now.
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So should we.maby find a badass dev here at xda, pay him a few bills and let him make us a 100% working rom?
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"MOMMY WOW, I'M A BIG KID NOW"
on a side note please throw your money at my kickstart, I'm making an ICS Rom for the Nokia 8250.
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Huh? Trying to make a point or something? I don't get it...
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So should we.maby find a badass dev here at xda, pay him a few bills and let him make us a 100% working rom?
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A lot of these guys have been there and done that, look in one of the DrewGaren threads. What's wrong with being a little patient and letting Chaosz-X do his thing? I mean if anyone around here deserves donations it's him.
I love android for allot of reasons. Roms and tweaking was and is a big one. I had a captivate which I loved but I sold it when my company decided to buy me an iPhone and pay my cell bill. I hate iOS and missed android so when best buy reduced the cost on the flyer I jumped on it. The flyer has been a disappointment flashing wise to me (no fault to the developers here, work much appreciated). On the other hand my flyer has paid for itself multiple times over and is used daily for streaming and it's mhl connection.
What I have learned is that I like htc build quality but that their support sucks and that IMO sense is a way too large, bloated, laggy android skin that makes development more of an issue.
Do I regret buying my flyer, no. Would I buy another htc device, unlikely. Do I expect that I will see versions of ics/jelly bean that work for my use, no. I am ok with that now, but the device fell short of my flashing addiction
sense sucks on the flyer because it's not the full sense you get from a phone, it's a special "sense 1.1 for tablets",and honeycomb is laggy naturally, it's pretty much a throw away os google came up with for a better tablet layout and combine sense with that and it's even worse. But honestly I love sense 3.6 on my vivid, theme support, and multiple homescreen layouts make sense great.
I like my flyer honestly. Getting caught up in the update thing can easily make you hate it but we got some good developers here that are working hard to improve it.
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What I have learned is that I like htc build quality but that their support sucks and that IMO sense is a way too large, bloated, laggy android skin that makes development more of an issue.
Do I regret buying my flyer, no. Would I buy another htc device, unlikely. Do I expect that I will see versions of ics/jelly bean that work for my use, no. I am ok with that now, but the device fell short of my flashing addiction
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+1.
HTC flyer awesome potential - the device IS capable of running ICS. HTC "added value" of HTC sense etc seems to have done a dis-service in terms of future upgrades.
It is ironic that more IOS users can run Chrome than Android. Why ? Cos you need ICS or greater and the HTCs of the world just won't support their products for even 18 - 24 months after release.
18 months is a long time in the tech world, and if I had a tablet that flopped like the Flyer I wouldn't be supporting it either. It's not worth their time or money to get ICS out for it, not when it's perfectly functional as is.
The real question is why did HTC even bother making it. It was more expensive than an ipad, had gingerbread instead of honeycomb, and a single core cpu. And they didnt market it bad, they just didnt market it period. But in hindsight really every android tab that came out at that time failed, mostly due to price. Up until this year the only other android tabs I saw other people have were the nook color and cheap Chinese tablets.
I guess I don't hold it against them for abandoning the Flyer anymore. It is what it is, android came to tablets before it was ready for tablets and failure was inevitable. I'd like to see them try again, maybe a one series tablet with sense 4 and an s pen.
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Btw the chrome thing does piss me off. Google needs to make that **** work with gingerbread and honeycomb at least. Google is quick to abandon previous versions of android but you sure don't see them pushing the manufacturers for updates
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I was searching the internet when I came across this on Reddit. Should we look forward to seeing Official kitkat on our devices or just turn our head away from now? What are your opinions?
"To address an issue that’s top of mind for many folks here, we recently announced that we wouldn’t be updating the HTC One X and One X+ beyond Android 4.2. Without the support of our chip manufacturer Nvidia, it made a global update of One X and X+ devices impossible. However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4."
Source http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/
If they decide to selectively update the Qualcomm versions of One X (the AT&T one and probably the One XL) they'd only create even more disappointment and rage amongst users. Sure, the ones getting the update will be happy.
And about the X+, none of the devices would get the update, because all versions of the X+ use the Nvidia chipset.
Tegra 3
What I don't get is that how can we still have Android 4.3/4.4 roms for the One X+ yet HTC says they can't develop roms because Nvidia no longer supports this chipset.
The main issue is the kernel and drivers . in most cases these have been back ported from 4.3 so although they work its not optimum
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Sorry to disappoint you guys
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Wow they seem really unorganized, posting two opposite statements both concerning the same topic at almost the same time..
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Tazmaniiac said:
Wow they seem really unorganized, posting two opposite statements both concerning the same topic at almost the same time..
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They didnt teh statement read
"However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4."
So they never said the Nvidia powered devices where being looked at. If we want updates we should be pestering Nvidia to continue tegra3 support
As far as I understood it they meant that an update to 4.3 would only be possible on the OneX, that's why the try to find a way to update to 4.4 on both devices.
Otherwise it would be pointless to say that they don't want to update the OneX, but still wanting to find a way to update to KitKat..
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Lets's see if HTC will suprise us in a positve way.
It only concerns the Qualcomm version of the One X. The HOX+ will not be updated, the Tegra 3 variant is not supported by Nvidia. And of course, HTC did not think to pressure them to offer support, so...
Why are people getting angry about the phone being discontinued? A new update could mean a new HBOOT and new touch firmware a patches for things that we have exploited for our ROMS. Look at the 3.18 update.
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Drippler has a article now that seems to state HTC is reconsidering to update to kitkat for one x and one x+.
One other gem from this AMA, which will have HTC One X and One X+ owners very happy, is that HTC is now reconsidering updating these phones to Android KitKat. This is a pretty big backflip considering HTC came out and officially said that the phone would not be supported past Android 4.2.2, but I think we can all agree this change a good thing.
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http://androidspin.com/2014/02/14/h...nsidering-update-htc-one-x/#readsoruce_bottom
I think we should just sit back and wait...
HTC's rep and sales has gone sideways, so in my opinion, well.... Pretty much said.
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panpjp said:
I think we should just sit back and wait...
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Exactly. I see that the update thing went during the reddit session many times. I think they realize we are unhappy with this decision and maybe they will try to talk with nvidia about that.
Sweet dreams.
phikal said:
Drippler has a article now that seems to state HTC is reconsidering to update to kitkat for one x and one x+.
http://androidspin.com/2014/02/14/h...nsidering-update-htc-one-x/#readsoruce_bottom
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Its the same source as the rest of the news so i think its just taken out of context. My reading of what was said is its just the Qualcomm handsets that are being revisited as nvidia have dropped open support for the tegra3
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Yes, only the US (Qualcomm) version of the One X is being investigated for an update.
And if you look through the comments, you will see that HTC responded loud and clear:
"For the HTC One X in the US (diff chipset than global version), we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4."
HERE is the link for this.
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Why are people getting angry about the phone being discontinued? A new update could mean a new HBOOT and new touch firmware a patches for things that we have exploited for our ROMS. Look at the 3.18 update.
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From my knowledge, we didn't exploit anything as per say. With the new HBoot you just have to unlock the bootloader which is a service provided by HTC itself and flash a recovery which is a job for our devs which shouldn't take a while to find a solution to. What you said would be an issue if it was S-Offed or close to an S-Off so the update might cause a threat to that exploit but seeing as this didn't happen/not close to happening I dont think thats a problem.
I honestly am not in a hurry to get a new phone since I know that my HOX+ is good for me, however I would be quite happy if we can have access to sense 5.5 with the kitkat features. I like blinkfeed and with the options found on the One I think i will love it more.
YAY! Guess what I just bought?!
Not really bothered about not getting a KitKat update even though it would be nice, because I don't want it being bogged down by sense.
I'll have a look at what's available homebrewed on here and continually moan about it on Elevate
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YAY! Guess what I just bought?!
Not really bothered about not getting a KitKat update even though it would be nice, because I don't want it being bogged down by sense.
I'll have a look at what's available homebrewed on here and continually moan about it on Elevate
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I've given up moaning on elevate..
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Lloir said:
I've given up moaning on elevate..
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NEVER give up moaning, even if it gets you nowhere.... Doesn't do women any harm anyway