RomRacer vs. Rom Manager vs. Touch CWM - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Kind of getting lost in the Dev forum stuff, I flash every month or two but am not able to keep up reguarly.
Any reason to NOT use Rom manager? It seems romracers is preferred? Does Rom Manager have to pair with the CWM recovery, or can you flash the romracer recovery through rommanager and do your ROM flashes through rom manager (utilizing romracers recovery).
If that makes any sense haha.
I am currently on wet dream, w/ romracers from about 6-8 weeks ago. Is it possible to:
Install Rom Manager
Flash newest romracer recovery through rom manager via .zip
flash new ROMs via Rom Manager GUI?
Thanks

I personally use touch CWM for every ROM and never had an issue. I am curious too from other recovery users what they think of them.
You should add a poll to the thread to see which recoveries people are using.
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Voelker45 said:
I personally use touch CWM for every ROM and never had an issue. I am curious too from other recovery users what they think of them.
You should add a poll to the thread to see which recoveries people are using.
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Are you current on what recoveries are out there/available and what is working with what?
I'm still not clear on the interface between rom manager (haven't used it) as an app in the GUI and the recovery that we boot into via reboot + power + vol down.
I'll add a poll if I know what to poll

Norcalz71 said:
Are you current on what recoveries are out there/available and what is working with what?
I'm still not clear on the interface between rom manager (haven't used it) as an app in the GUI and the recovery that we boot into via reboot + power + vol down.
I'll add a poll if I know what to poll
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You get the rom manager recovery from the app itself along with the touch one too. Rom racers is in ATRIX development section.
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Voelker45 said:
You get the rom manager recovery from the app itself along with the touch one too. Rom racers is in ATRIX development section.
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So i guess my question is then, is the rom manager gui front end tied to the rom manager recovery? Or could one install rom manager (app) and use it with the romracer recovery?
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Norcalz71 said:
So i guess my question is then, is the rom manager gui front end tied to the rom manager recovery? Or could one install rom manager (app) and use it with the romracer recovery?
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If you try to use ROM Manager it will tell you that you need to flash recovery first if you have Romracer's recovery installed, so in essence they can co-exist, (meaning you can use both independant of each other), but to get full ROM Manager functionality you will need to flash the ROM Manager recovery through that app.
My personal preference is Romracer's recovery. Never had any problems with it at all. Touch recovery is too easy to make a mistake by touching the screen in error, and if I remember correctly you cannot backup to external SDCARD with touch recovery or ROM Manager recovery. Can't remember to be sure if that's correct so someone can point out my mistake there, but there are differences which make Romracer's more functional, so I have stuck with it.

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Is Clockwork Mod Safe

I've been using AmonRA recovery since I got the Optimus in December and I am comfortable with it. I've tried out Miks port of CM7 and while it's great, i sorely miss the battery performance I was getting on Froyo with Void and running 824mhz stable without any problems. That and bluetooth is sorely missed. I want to give OpenOptimus a shot, but I am extremely weary of trying to install Clockwork Mod again, because the one time I attempted it I ended up bricking my phone. Thankfully, the guy at the Tmo kiosk in the mall just gave me a new one no questions asked. I wouldn't be so hesitant to install CWM on my phone if I could install the img just like I did with AmonRA instead of trusting Rom manager to do it for me.
I don't suggest you to flash recovery via ROM manager. IMHO ClockworkMod is better,has much more options. If you'll flash the 3.1.0.0 version using my flashable zips you won't brick anything. And remember to give openOptimus a shot,you won't regret it
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I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
N00b-un-2 said:
I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
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Do you people ever use search?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197 - download and flash ZIP from recovery. Done.
Sorry about that. I didn't realize that you could actually flash a recovery from within the recovery. I just switched to CWM and flashed OpenOptimus. Waiting for first boot as I'm typing this.
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I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
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yes a stated above u can just enter into recovery and flash any recovery u want from the link pointed out above and its safe ,since u already have recovery installed u dont need to flash recovery via rom manager and just remember that any backup taken from any recovery would be restored using the same recovery. To clear all doubts the problem has been solved and installing recovery from rom manger works flawlessly now. Note:Its advisable to use rommanager for ppl not having recovery installed just download the latest rom mager and flash choosig ur phone type.
slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can get the T-Mobile branded P509 kdz stock firmware just in case I end up needing to roll back to stock? I can't seem to find it anywhere, the_ERROR's thread on howto is closed and the links don't work anymore.
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slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can get the T-Mobile branded P509 kdz stock firmware just in case I end up needing to roll back to stock? I can't seem to find it anywhere, the_ERROR's thread on howto is closed and the links don't work anymore.
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This does not work, or... ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073827
nope its not safe at all using rom manager ~
I flashed CWM and my friend died a few days later.
So no it's not safe.
For me there are no problems with clockworkmod and RomManager. Flashed cwm via RomManager and everything is fine here.
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XeactorZ said:
nope its not safe at all using rom manager ~
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it not about using rom manger for flashing rom ,it just to get the cwm recovery and then going into recovery and using it from there.
Many had problems flashing rom from clockwork so that not advisable but installing cwm is fine 100% sure
M happy with CWM
Don't use tricks like ROM Manager... It's just matter of learning to use a recovery, not that difficult.. just IMHO
You just need to use ROM manager Once to get recovery. After that you can delete the program and enjoy the CWM recovery.
I have been there, I have done it, You do want it
CWM works beautifully without problems..
I use rom manager just to reboot to recovery, as i am too lazy to use the 3 button combo to goto recovery.
Flashed ROMs and zips with CWM. 100 % safe untill now..
The new updared Rom Manager has solved that issue.
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How much I've learned in just a month!
I can't believe I had to ask that question. I know now that there are numerous ways to flash recoveries. My personal preference is to do it manually using the adb.
shhbz said:
Many had problems flashing rom from clockwork so that not advisable but installing cwm is fine 100% sure
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See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15186637&postcount=337
No, it is not 100% fine, in fact it lacks any sanity checks whatsoever.
Just flash CWM through your current recovery and you'll be fine. It's by far the safest method. If you flash through ROM Manager and after reboot you get stuck in fastboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015332 ... happened to me, unbricked it with some slight changes to the tutorial. Nothing important.
PS: If you don't use Rom Manager you can always do a $su then #reboot recovery in a terminal (Downloadable from market) to reboot directly to recovery.

Cant install clockwork?

Rooted the phone installed Rom manager downloaded the recovery rebooted to recovery and its the badic android recovety and.says signiture verification failed.
Ideas?
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Bouncer5 said:
Rooted the phone installed Rom manager downloaded the recovery rebooted to recovery and its the badic android recovety and.says signiture verification failed.
Ideas?
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Why didn't you root using CF-Root or Siyah or SpeedMod, or any other custom Kernel that just comes with CWM recovery?
Don't use Rom Manager & CW Recovery together. Rom Manager tends to break CW Recovery/cause bootloops if you have both installed so use one or t'other.
MistahBungle said:
Don't use Rom Manager & CW Recovery together. Rom Manager tends to break CW Recovery/cause bootloops if you have both installed so use one or t'other.
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I can't seem to get Clockwork installed why I used Rom Manager in the first place, Never had an issue with it on any other device.
Just seemed easier to use it to flash recovery and then flash whatever rom I damn well pleased.
Just seemed easier to use it to flash recovery and then flash whatever rom I damn well pleased.
Your choice f around with an app that is known to have SGS2 problems or flash a rooted CWM kernel that works .
jje
Siyah is good if you use gingerbread, great battery life, lots of kernel modules integrated (cifs, tun, etc.) DO NOT use Siyah with ICS based roms.
Yet another useless thread on a subject that has been discussed more times than anybody cares to remember. A quick and simple search would have given you the answer to your question.
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Question about cwm

Hello.. I installed Rom manager and accidentally installed the cwm grocery mode that it offers and now when i use the cwm app it always boots via the Rom manager. How do i make it so it reboot into the blue cwm app's recovery mod?
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That's meant to say recovery not grocery....
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peatar said:
Hello.. I installed Rom manager and accidentally installed the cwm grocery mode that it offers and now when i use the cwm app it always boots via the Rom manager. How do i make it so it reboot into the blue cwm app's recovery mod?
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ROM Manager ...
Ok, just re-flash the kernel containing the CWM recovery mode you want to have.
P.S.: I am running on RedPill kernel and the red recovery mode is also nice ;-)
But it is your decision to take the blue pill. And everything will stay as it is now.
(Source: Matrix)
It_ler said:
ROM Manager ...
Ok, just re-flash the kernel containing the CWM recovery mode you want to have.
P.S.: I am running on RedPill kernel and the red recovery mode is also nice ;-)
But it is your decision to take the blue pill. And everything will stay as it is now.
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I installed to factory firmware than flashed with kernel that used to give me blue but now it just still gives me the orange? What do?
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Don't use Rom Manager/CWM together, I.E use/install one or the other. Rom Manager is notorious for breaking CWM and/or causing bootloops. Install one & stick to use it if you want to avoid problems. If you want to use CWM, uninstall Rom Manager.

Installing recovery issues

I tried installing cwm with rom manager and when I attempt to boot into recovery I am at the android screen with a triangle. I then used rom manager to flash rom racers cwm and I thought it was successful but I got the same screen when booting into recovery. So I used goo manager to flash TWRP. Same issue when booting into recovery. I am unlocked and rooted. Any ideas on what I could be doing wrong?
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Here's an idea - stop using ROM manager!
How about you try flashing recovery using more traditional methods, like fastboot? That hardly ever fails.
ravilov said:
Here's an idea - stop using ROM manager!
How about you try flashing recovery using more traditional methods, like fastboot? That hardly ever fails.
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I'm was just following the directions in the thread for installing cwm. The directions are dated since this is an older device. That's why I asked the question. TWRP is the recovery of choice for me on my GS II.
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try this
dxwilliams40 said:
I'm was just following the directions in the thread for installing cwm. The directions are dated since this is an older device. That's why I asked the question. TWRP is the recovery of choice for me on my GS II.
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Did you delete (or backup) install-recovery.sh from /system/etc? If not, then that is most likely causing your problem. See the "Miscellaneous" section of this 2nd post from romracer's thread.

Starting in Download Mod on Galaxy S3

If you have CWM installed from Rom Manager, can you still boot into Download Mode as you di before CWM?? Thanks for reply.
Yes, that should be possible. Download mode is different from recovery mode.
www.android.gs/download-mode-galaxy-s3/
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sashank said:
Yes, that should be possible. Download mode is different from recovery mode.
www.android.gs/download-mode-galaxy-s3/
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Read article above. So after I install I will have to root phone Again? It is rooted now. The reason I want CWM is so I can back up OS on phone unless you have a better way.
CWM or any custom recovery like TWRP (whatever is available for your device) is the best way to backup. If you're already rooted, you won't need to again unless you restore to stock. Flashing a custom recovery doesn't affect the ROM in any way.
As an alternative method of backup, you can use 'adb backup' (read about it) but it's more complicated. Custom recovery is the best.
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sashank said:
CWM or any custom recovery like TWRP (whatever is available for your device) is the best way to backup. If you're already rooted, you won't need to again unless you restore to stock. Flashing a custom recovery doesn't affect the ROM in any way.
As an alternative method of backup, you can use 'adb backup' (read about it) but it's more complicated. Custom recovery is the best.
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Phone is Stock Galaxy S3 4.1.1 at least for Now. Downloaded Rom Manager so can I use it to install CWM or do I need to do it thru Odin as your link showed? Thanks for helping me!!!!
I'm not sure about that. Try ROM Manager first.
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sashank said:
I'm not sure about that. Try ROM Manager first.
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No Rom Manager says Galaxy S3 not worked with it yet when you click to flash CWM.
Then look in the Galaxy S3 forum specific to your model (unlocked/carrier variant). There are usually guides and toolkits for everything from rooting to flashing ROMs to restoring to stock, made specifically for new and inexperience users. You'll easily find a way to flash recovery there.
Ok, just had a look, recoveries are indeed directly flashable to your phone. You don't *need* Odin, although it can be flashed that way too. In any case, if ROM Manager isn't working for you for whatever reason, flash TWRP recovery. TWRP = TeamWin Recovery Project. It's a much better and more useful recovery than CWM. Follow the link below to find TWRP recovery along with installation instructions for international Galaxy S3 (unlocked version) -
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/114
If you have a carrier variant, choose your device correctly from the list in the TWRP website - http://teamw.in/twrp_view_all_devices

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