So I really wanted to like the Chrome Beta browser. I love Chrome on my PC and syncing bookmarks and open tabs is nice. This browser is over 60 MB! In comparison, Dolphin HD is just under 6 MB. It never actually closes, staying open and draining battery and eating up memory. How has everyone else's experiences with Chrome Beta been? You sticking with it or moving back to something a little less resource intensive?
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So I really wanted to like the Chrome Beta browser. I love Chrome on my PC and syncing bookmarks and open tabs is nice. This browser is over 60 MB! In comparison, Dolphin HD is just under 6 MB. It never actually closes, staying open and draining battery and eating up memory. How has everyone else's experiences with Chrome Beta been? You sticking with it or moving back to something a little less resource intensive?
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You are using a beta app on a beta ROM. What you expected, perfection?
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You are using a beta app on a beta ROM. What you expected, perfection?
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Nope. Been in on more Beta tests than you could ever know. Did expect for it to be a little less bloated. And the part where you post your helpful experiences comes in where......
I like the browser and I'm going to keep it even if it's big. I don't think it supports flash though which could be a deal breaker for some people but I don't mind really, I don't go to sites that require flash on my phone anyways.
I haven't noticed a big impact on battery life as I did when I first installed Google+ (having notifications off on that app saves a lot of juice).
To me it's a keeper for now, I haven't seen enough impact for me to really think I should uninstall it, but I'll keep a closer look to make sure it doesn't go out of hand.
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Now that I've used System Panel to check memory usage, I'm worried about how I only see 1 CPU being used. CPU 2 is completely idle... different issue though
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I like the browser and I'm going to keep it even if it's big. I don't think it supports flash though which could be a deal breaker for some people but I don't mind really, I don't go to sites that require flash on my phone anyways.
I haven't noticed a big impact on battery life as I did when I first installed Google+ (having notifications off on that app saves a lot of juice).
To me it's a keeper for now, I haven't seen enough impact for me to really think I should uninstall it, but I'll keep a closer look to make sure it doesn't go out of hand.
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Now that I've used System Panel to check memory usage, I'm worried about how I only see 1 CPU being used. CPU 2 is completely idle... different issue though
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Yeah, the notifications on G+ are a huge impact. I think that checking task manager and seeing it constantly running is what bugs me. Hard to compare as far as battery goes coming from GB ROMs. I just find I'm constantly peeking to see if it started back up after I kill it! The CPU scaling is odd on any ICS ROM, and hopefully a final release kernel will remedy some of it.
It always stays enabled in the background which in turn killed my battery, nothing has come close to getting me off of Dolphin HD.
I noticed that too. I decided I'm not going to use it anymore until they have some more settings included, like being able to switch to desktop user mode. But I can't wait til it's out of beta and is running a little bit quicker.
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It always stays enabled in the background which in turn killed my battery, nothing has come close to getting me off of Dolphin HD.
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I'm with you there. Dolphin adding sonar has made an already badass browser even better!
It is a bit big, but I've noticed no difference in battery life or performance since I've been using Chrome Beta. I like it. In fact, I've removed the stock browser entirely now.
I am not a fan of companies releasing Beta products out to the public. People just don't seem to be able to understand that it is not even close to being a finished product. I think companies need to wait until they have gone past the Beta test stage of development and moved to Release Candidate stage. Maybe do limited Beta release to select people. Not the whole market.
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Nope. Been in on more Beta tests than you could ever know. Did expect for it to be a little less bloated. And the part where you post your helpful experiences comes in where......
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Beta on beta is bad choice, period. Since you have been beta testing allot you should know that it's a big no no on any beta app testing. I know that for a fact.You can't judge the app when your OS is not ready for prime time
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Beta on beta is bad choice, period. Since you have been beta testing allot you should know that it's a big no no on any beta app testing. I know that for a fact.You can't judge the app when your OS is not ready for prime time
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I have yet to hear about your experience with Chrome Beta. This is beside the fact that the OS is, and has been, running perfectly for some time. I can judge the app on the originally stated points. It's too big for what it does, it's a memory hog, and it constantly stays running in the background with three services going. As a good beta tester would know, Google wants to know about issues and these have been reported. And for the record, the devs who have been working on these ICS leaks have put together awesome ROMs that are very ready for primetime and are well past what I and most others would consider beta material.
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I am not a fan of companies releasing Beta products out to the public. People just don't seem to be able to understand that it is not even close to being a finished product. I think companies need to wait until they have gone past the Beta test stage of development and moved to Release Candidate stage. Maybe do limited Beta release to select people. Not the whole market.
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i would hardly call all ICS phone the "whole market"
Chrome beta works perfectly for me. I use it as my daily browser.
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I have yet to hear about your experience with Chrome Beta. This is beside the fact that the OS is, and has been, running perfectly for some time. I can judge the app on the originally stated points. It's too big for what it does, it's a memory hog, and it constantly stays running in the background with three services going. As a good beta tester would know, Google wants to know about issues and these have been reported. And for the record, the devs who have been working on these ICS leaks have put together awesome ROMs that are very ready for primetime and are well past what I and most others would consider beta material.
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Ok. Big? You have 2GB space for apps. Memory hog? Again you have 1 GB of ram that it's dynamically managed by the system. The resources are there and they are being used. Plus there is a ton of debugging stuff in the current beta builds.
As far as the ICS ROMS yes the devs made a hell of a job but it's still NOT prime time material. Wait till they get the officially released kernels. The phone will rock!
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i would hardly call all ICS phone the "whole market"
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Well in the context in which I was talking "whole market" indicates applicable devices - as in ICS devices.
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Ok. Big? You have 2GB space for apps. Memory hog? Again you have 1 GB of ram that it's dynamically managed by the system. The resources are there and they are being used. Plus there is a ton of debugging stuff in the current beta builds.
As far as the ICS ROMS yes the devs made a hell of a job but it's still NOT prime time material. Wait till they get the officially released kernels. The phone will rock!
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Not only big. Huge! over ten times the size of Dolphin HD and it has voice recognition. Just because there is room for apps doesn't mean it needs to be used in excess does it? Yes, the resources are being used. Along with battery, which is at a premium already. I won't back off the fact that the ICS ROMs ARE, in fact, prime time material. They are all stable, all features function properly. Have you tried them? Have you tried the browser? The phone already rocks! No doubt the official kernel will improve upon things, but there isn't really a whole lot more that they could offer over what we're using now.
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According to other users in the GSB v1.2 thread, they're getting speeds better than any Froyo they've used. I've done all of the suggested steps, including following the install instructions to a T, and "JIT on, home in memory, Comp cache RAM 18% default, heap size 24m,CPU 245/768." However, I'm still finding that it's noticeably slower than Nonsensikal 16.1. I can see lag in scrolling menus, scrolling in the browser, and typing on the keyboard. Am I doing something wrong, or should I just wait for CM7 to get more mature and try again?
Could be a number of things; number of apps running, types of apps you run, leaky memory app, how many widgets, excess cache, GPS and BT on, how you use your phone, leftover data from sdcard, which governor you're using.
Hiccups are to be expected. Are you lagging all the time? After exiting a particular app?
Apples to apples is kinda difficult to assess, especially on something that is measured subjectively.
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This is based on my immediate impression after a fresh install of the rom, and has more to do with the speed and responsiveness of the UI than with apps. I can see some lag, particularly window animations and keyboard responsiveness, as soon as I install. I did a full wipe of data/cache/sdcard before installing GSB.
After I tweaked some things like bumping up the CPU max speed, setting smartass governor, and just letting it "warm up" for a while, it does run faster. Still not quite as fast though.
I suspect things will get better with later releases of CM7... I'll wait and try again in a bit.
Well yeah. Most Froyo roms are 710Mhz by default, GSB is 578Mhz.
So just clock for clock, its slower.
But no one installs a custom rom only to leave it at default. Tweak man, tweak! Leave no setting unturned.
For comparison sake, install an early version of Kaos gingerbread.
Or compare an early Froyo.
What alot of people are excited about is, as a 3rd release of a brand new rom, it should be practically unusable. But its totally stable and smooth enough for an everyday OS.
I find performs better than Froyo in most every way. There's room for improvements and bugs to fix, but CM7 has been out on the Eris for less than a week. And the. CM team is a ways away from an official stable release.
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
KFroyo had the same responses even though until about rev21 it was pretty slow and buggy.
You're just immune to the placebo.
As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
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LOL
And usually within only the first hour of using it.
Same thing with flashing radios - "OMG, I can't believe how much better my signal is." (Not.)
Well, it's the internet; it is what it is. Come one, come all.
strayed from the path, master
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As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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Word. Totally agree!
I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
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Haha yeah, that's me too Back to Nonsensikal 16.1 (so fast!!!) for the time being. I'm psyched to check out GSB again in a few weeks though, as I was extremely impressed over all!
I only find the Home Screens' loading the gadgets slowly, the rest of the interface is amazingly stabled and fast for 1.2 release.
BTW: what I did found weird is the Dialer. The buttons outline does not show up?
Is this just the built or a bug?
bump.
anything?
1.2 Seriously?
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So I'll take a stab... while the earlier comments are valid (placebo effect by those trying new ROMs) I have to say GSB feels significantly quicker to me that the 2.1 ROM I was running.
You need to let a ROM settle down before knowing how responsive it is. I usually use it for an hour or two, then reboot. After a reboot or two, all seems settled down, the apps re-downloaded and installed, the links all set up and so forth. So if you're interested in trying gingerbread, install GSB (now version 2.1) and use it for several days at least before making a judgment.
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If you can do without the animations I would say just turn those off and cut your home screens down to three. Personally when I had an Eris I only ever had one screen. And I only ever had one widget which was my weather and toggle flip clock. Also I noticed that if I ever did kick the CPU past 604 it would get a bit laggy. Shed told you in the OP his Rom was optimized for 604. Basically I've noticed with these GB roms is if you don't need it or ain't gonna use it then turn it off or remove it. Obviously you know, YOU know, lol that no Rom will be quick out the box. You gotta give them time and restart a couple of times to get everything leveled out.
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Hi guys I know we have a bunch of roms for the RZ based on the leaked ICS. I took a look and see that overall everyone seems to be happy w/ these ROMs. I'd just like to ask what kind of feature beneits from the "full ICS" have been implemented in these ROMS ie hardware acceleration, improved interface etc and regarding the stability of these ROMs?
I like the fact that Rosie is actually useful, for a change. You can put groups of icons where only one used to fit before. For instance, all of your various communication type apps can be grouped together (Mail, Gmail, Facebook, etc...). This gives your desktop lots more room instead of being cluttered with icons.
The interface seems a little less clunky, and just flows better.
I also enjoy being able to run tether in infrastructure mode, something GB has been unable to do for me. The grouping folders on the launch bar is great. I also noticed that the roms run extremely smooth. Sense also seems to have lost a bit of weight from GB.
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I like the fact that Rosie is actually useful, for a change. You can put groups of icons where only one used to fit before. For instance, all of your various communication type apps can be grouped together (Mail, Gmail, Facebook, etc...). This gives your desktop lots more room instead of being cluttered with icons.
The interface seems a little less clunky, and just flows better.
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Are you referring to the native folders that were added in ICS?
Another thing i noticed, when I connect my car charger, on ICS it's connected as "AC plugged" rather than "USB plugged". This charges my phone much faster and I can actually use GPS, Waze, Pandora, and Text/Browse (when stopped of course!) and my phone battery percentage is still going up!! =)
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Another thing i noticed, when I connect my car charger, on ICS it's connected as "AC plugged" rather than "USB plugged". This charges my phone much faster and I can actually use GPS, Waze, Pandora, and Text/Browse (when stopped of course!) and my phone battery percentage is still going up!! =)
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I havent seen this yet but this makes me very happy. I had taken a trip and used navigation a few times along with spotify and even with my car charger(a nice cheap universal one), I was still putting a drain on the battery.
Shouldn't hardware acceleration make a difference?
Good question.
I'm unlocked and rooted, but I haven't installed a rom because I really dont know what a rom is. I read about a few things that dont work and the blue flickering(which I get VERY rarely on stock GB) with the lastest ICS roms.
But how is an ICS rom different from getting ICS OTA? If everything worked in a ICS rom(or atleast everything I needed) is there a difference? or reason to want ICS OTA
With the current ICS roms does the following features work?
face unlock, new voice input engine, improve battery life
most app from the market work with ICS roms?
thanks
ICS
ICS is very stable in most of the ICS roms at this stage. I would reccomend either the rezrom or inneffablis roms, though the cleanrom series should not give you trouble unless you try to desense it. I have not noticed a significant difference in battery life, but like it says above there are a few specific improvements such as with charging via a car charger and overall performance is very good. Personally i really dig the look of and function of ICS , I don't use cleanrom because the last version i tried still used some sense gingerbread/sense apps.
If you need any assistance or have any questions id be happy to help ill be flashing some new roms tonight.
I beg to differ.i would say none of the ics roms are stable. And this is from user experience. There are numerous bugs and glitches. I'm in no way knocking any of the work the devs do. They are remarkable individual. Those builds need work before they can get the stable stamp of approval.
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Another thing i noticed, when I connect my car charger, on ICS it's connected as "AC plugged" rather than "USB plugged".
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This is huge to me, I can actually get a halfway decent charge on my phone while driving.
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I beg to differ.i would say none of the ics roms are stable. And this is from user experience. There are numerous bugs and glitches. I'm in no way knocking any of the work the devs do. They are remarkable individual. Those builds need work before they can get the stable stamp of approval.
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well man im using Clean rom ICS and im having great battery life and no problems so sorry but i say that its stable
Stable means they don't crash..and they don't. If a feature is broken that is a deal breaker for you it doesn't mean it isn't stable.
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I beg to differ.i would say none of the ics roms are stable. And this is from user experience. There are numerous bugs and glitches. I'm in no way knocking any of the work the devs do. They are remarkable individual. Those builds need work before they can get the stable stamp of approval.
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Maybe you should say "your" stable stamp of approval. I have used clean icse and now Joel's rom and both are very stable I have had zero issues with Joel's latest release.
It seems many people's issues are caused when they insist on restoring from titanium and I don't care what Rom or os version your run you are opening yourself up for trouble when you do that.
Another common issue seems to be when people install apps that are not upgraded for ics, and with any os this takes time.
By far the most common instability in these roms is chair to keyboard interface. That's right user error lol it astounds me the number of people that can't even be bothered to read simple instructions!
Take your time, back up and play around, if you take the time to do it right I'm sure you will love ics as much as those of us using it now. If you find it lacking, or your favorite app is not ready for prime time you can always go back.
One more thing this is my 4th android device and the devs that are slaying this device are awesome! Thanks to you all and if I haven't already bought you a round or two, its coming!
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...But how is an ICS rom different from getting ICS OTA? If everything worked in a ICS rom(or atleast everything I needed) is there a difference? or reason to want ICS OTA
With the current ICS roms does the following features work?
face unlock, new voice input engine, improve battery life
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Face unlock and voice input work. Battery life varies like always but seems good. The apps I use work fine but there are some that don't. Read about some.folks having problems with launcher apps. I think at this point most of the ics features are there but remember its not either or, when the ota ics drops you can just switch to that or a rom with that as a base. There will be plenty!
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Maybe you should say "your" stable stamp of approval. I have used clean icse and now Joel's rom and both are very stable I have had zero issues with Joel's latest release.
It seems many people's issues are caused when they insist on restoring from titanium and I don't care what Rom or os version your run you are opening yourself up for trouble when you do that.
Another common issue seems to be when people install apps that are not upgraded for ics, and with any os this takes time.
By far the most common instability in these roms is chair to keyboard interface. That's right user error lol it astounds me the number of people that can't even be bothered to read simple instructions!
Take your time, back up and play around, if you take the time to do it right I'm sure you will love ics as much as those of us using it now. If you find it lacking, or your favorite app is not ready for prime time you can always go back.
One more thing this is my 4th android device and the devs that are slaying this device are awesome! Thanks to you all and if I haven't already bought you a round or two, its coming!
Face unlock and voice input work. Battery life varies like always but seems good. The apps I use work fine but there are some that don't. Read about some.folks having problems with launcher apps. I think at this point most of the ics features are there but remember its not either or, when the ota ics drops you can just switch to that or a rim with that ad a base. There will be plenty!
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Boom. What he said. This is probably the most stable releases I have seen for a device. The devs are great.
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I also enjoy being able to run tether in infrastructure mode, something GB has been unable to do for me. The grouping folders on the launch bar is great. I also noticed that the roms run extremely smooth. Sense also seems to have lost a bit of weight from GB.
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Just wondering what app/method you're using for infrastructure tethering? I'm trying to tether my Rezound running stock ICS to my HP Touchpad running CM9 but the Touchpad doesn't work with adhoc.
But to join in on the discussion, I'm very happy with ICS on my Round. Very stable for me.
My response was pertaining to the asop ics
I had repeated crashes.camera,mms,Email, lock screen, wallpapers, and widgets all crashed. Sorry what I perceive as stable, and what you perceive as stable differ.
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The most notable things in ICS are hardware acceleration and multi-core cpu support.
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Just wondering what app/method you're using for infrastructure tethering? I'm trying to tether my Rezound running stock ICS to my HP Touchpad running CM9 but the Touchpad doesn't work with adhoc.
But to join in on the discussion, I'm very happy with ICS on my Round. Very stable for me.
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the way i got it to run in Infrastructure mode was under the device settings or whatever its called where you select your device, change it from auto to galaxy nexus cdma/lte, DO NOT turn on the encryption, if you need to keep ppl out enable access control, turn on router fixing, and it should work just fine. some devices might still have an issue with it, but not many.
I'm running Newtoroot's Senseless ICS ROM and it's fantastic. I'm probably not going to flash another ROM for 2, 3 days tops (sigh). I'll actually probably wait until they have CM9 up and running as a daily driver. They finally fixed the ICS camera, which I was able to extract from the CM9 build and install in the system / app folder. I finally have all the mega pixels back.
Just installed the MIUI Beta and I am LOVING this ROM! My absolute favorite so far. It's smooth, my battery seems to be holding good. No FC's yet. The look and feel is great! Good job devs!
Few questions though. How do I delete individual notifications? No (X) next to then, and I tried to swipe them to delete, but nothing. Also, on the lock screen, if I drag over the camera, it doesnt open the camera, just goes to the home screen.
Other than that it's amazing! Thanks guys!
Have you tried cm7?
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Have you tried cm7?
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Lol. U r the man. Forget beating around the bush, recruit em straight outta( where ever).... cm is the way to go broski... I have never tried miui, and after cm I don't want to. In comparison this rom has bugs the developer cannot really help... look into it. Dude(ace) is good... but the Arabs (pure assumption) aren't very helpful with debugging. And I heard that its not open source so .....
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Lol. U r the man. Forget beating around the bush, recruit em straight outta( where ever).... cm is the way to go broski... I have never tried miui, and after cm I don't want to. In comparison this rom has bugs the developer cannot really help... look into it. Dude(ace) is good... but the Arabs (pure assumption) aren't very helpful with debugging. And I heard that its not open source so .....
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I thought the source code had been released a month ago?
I've no clue how to solve the camera problem. It's been so long since I've been on miui. Get widget locker and that problem will go away as you can customize what happens when you drag the unlock icon in a particular direction.
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Just installed the MIUI Beta and I am LOVING this ROM! My absolute favorite so far. It's smooth, my battery seems to be holding good. No FC's yet. The look and feel is great! Good job devs!
Few questions though. How do I delete individual notifications? No (X) next to then, and I tried to swipe them to delete, but nothing. Also, on the lock screen, if I drag over the camera, it doesnt open the camera, just goes to the home screen.
Other than that it's amazing! Thanks guys!
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cant clear individual in Gingerbread based MIUI. hit clear and it clears all. its all or nothin. idk about the camera currently running cm7 until i get my rezound on thurs...
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I thought the source code had been released a month ago?
I've no clue how to solve the camera problem. It's been so long since I've been on miui. Get widget locker and that problem will go away as you can customize what happens when you drag the unlock icon in a particular direction.
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Idk I had to say heard cuz of unsureness.
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I just came from CM7. Didn't like it much. Too glitchy and just didn't like the overall look and feel. I had Eclipse before and that was my favorite until now. Just too many issues with CM7
- dock shortcuts would seem time change or dissapear on their own. Like I would boot up and there would be a star where the browser used to be. Or where the app drawer shortcut was. One time I pressed the browser button and ALL of my dock icons dissappeared.
- Widgets sometimes would be invisible. I could long press them where they should have been and it would let me delete them or move them. But they wouldn't show up.
- I had it in my dock and it showed it was plugged in and charging. Had like 95% battery when I plugged in. Woke up to a dead phone. 0% battery. Even if it wasn't charging, it would have made it through the night on 95%
And just some other weird stuff. Just didn't like it much. Sorry. I even tried wiping and reflashing. Still basically the same.
MIUI is running stable so far. And I love the look and feel.
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I just came from CM7. Didn't like it much. Too glitchy and just didn't like the overall look and feel. I had Eclipse before and that was my favorite until now. Just too many issues with CM7
- dock shortcuts would seem time change or dissapear on their own. Like I would boot up and there would be a star where the browser used to be. Or where the app drawer shortcut was. One time I pressed the browser button and ALL of my dock icons dissappeared.
- Widgets sometimes would be invisible. I could long press them where they should have been and it would let me delete them or move them. But they wouldn't show up.
- I had it in my dock and it showed it was plugged in and charging. Had like 95% battery when I plugged in. Woke up to a dead phone. 0% battery. Even if it wasn't charging, it would have made it through the night on 95%
And just some other weird stuff. Just didn't like it much. Sorry. I even tried wiping and reflashing. Still basically the same.
MIUI is running stable so far. And I love the look and feel.
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If I recall the camera doesn't link or work right or something....I might still have a couple camera apks that worked for me if I remember correctly...of course no guarantees...I will look and see if I have them and will repost if I do with them attached
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The camera works fine. Just the lockscreen link to it doesn't.
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The camera works fine. Just the lockscreen link to it doesn't.
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Ahh...ok I think that was a known issue if I remember correctly
The first apks is from the photon, if I am not mistaken, which I liked and used on miui and had much better luck with all the way around.
Maybe will help maybe not *shrugs*
Wow, I must say, I am surprised someone would choose a mui port over the Eclipse Rom. I have been running eclipse 2.1 for over a month now with v6SuperCharger and bloat removed, and this thing flies, no problems at all and the battery life is fantastic.
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Wow, I must say, I am surprised someone would choose a mui port over the Eclipse Rom. I have been running eclipse 2.1 for over a month now with v6SuperCharger and bloat removed, and this thing flies, no problems at all and the battery life is fantastic.
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The OP might've never tried Eclipse or any other ROM for that matter.
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ITT: ROM **** sizing and people who don't read. OP said he tried both eclipse and CM, guys. Let's all try to remember everyone has different preferences people! I personally loved MIUI and it's notifications, but overall it was too buggy for me to use as a DD on the DX2.
Tried it out on my brother's DX and it was MUCH better, so I'm hoping Ace will have an update for us sooner or later, althought much like DZK he's busy as well (IIRC he just recently lost his job after moving so that's taken priority numero uno).
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Dude(ace) is good... but the Arabs (pure assumption) aren't very helpful with debugging. And I heard that its not open source so .....
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SMH. You should read up more on MIUI, and TRY IT, before you put out your opinions/"assumptions." MIUI was created by Xiaomi Tech, a Chinese firm (dunno wtf you got arabs..), so it's not just some random dev's collaborating, but an actual company putting out the ROM for usage in handsets in Asia that got picked up by the rest of the Android community. And as far as open source, they announced back in February of this year that they were going to begin opensourcing their applications and ROM, which you can see over at their GitHub (google it..).
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ITT: ROM **** sizing and people who don't read. OP said he tried both eclipse and CM, guys. Let's all try to remember everyone has different preferences people! I personally loved MIUI and it's notifications, but overall it was too buggy for me to use as a DD on the DX2.
Tried it out on my brother's DX and it was MUCH better, so I'm hoping Ace will have an update for us sooner or later, althought much like DZK he's busy as well (IIRC he just recently lost his job after moving so that's taken priority numero uno).
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SMH. You should read up more on MIUI, and TRY IT, before you put out your opinions/"assumptions." MIUI was created by Xiaomi Tech, a Chinese firm (dunno wtf you got arabs..), so it's not just some random dev's collaborating, but an actual company putting out the ROM for usage in handsets in Asia that got picked up by the rest of the Android community. And as far as open source, they announced back in February of this year that they were going to begin opensourcing their applications and ROM, which you can see over at their GitHub (google it..).
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And fwiw the Chinese own the **** out of us when it comes to phone development. I believe they're responsible for a couple bootloader unlocks and gaining root access to the original x.
MIUI is pretty sweet; It was the first rom is successfully flashed and man I had a field day with it up until you tube....
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Thanks thelowend. Yes I have tried Eclipse, and as I said it was my favorite. But MIUI is really cool. I think I like it because its so different. And everything seems so integrated. Like the notifications, I love how It gives a place for a reply right in the notification! That rocks! It just looks and feels more refined.
I am finding a few more bugs. Like Youtube not working, or any streaming video for that matter. Even some of my saved vids on the SD card dont want to play. And I can't record video either. All freeze after about 2 seconds of play/recording.
So far that is the biggest turn-off for me. I use youtube allll the time. Anyone know if they are working on this? I even tried the mobile site, and neither that or the app work.
Eclipse had its glitches too. But both are very good ROMs.
Oh one other glitch that really bugged me from CM7 is gapps kept FC'ing after a while and I would need to un-install and re-install it every so often.
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ITT: ROM **** sizing and people who don't read. OP said he tried both eclipse and CM, guys. Let's all try to remember everyone has different preferences people! I personally loved MIUI and it's notifications, but overall it was too buggy for me to use as a DD on the DX2.
Tried it out on my brother's DX and it was MUCH better, so I'm hoping Ace will have an update for us sooner or later, althought much like DZK he's busy as well (IIRC he just recently lost his job after moving so that's taken priority numero uno).
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SMH. You should read up more on MIUI, and TRY IT, before you put out your opinions/"assumptions." MIUI was created by Xiaomi Tech, a Chinese firm (dunno wtf you got arabs..), so it's not just some random dev's collaborating, but an actual company putting out the ROM for usage in handsets in Asia that got picked up by the rest of the Android community. And as far as open source, they announced back in February of this year that they were going to begin opensourcing their applications and ROM, which you can see over at their GitHub (google it..).
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Um jerk. I said I didn't know...
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12vnstallr said:
Thanks thelowend. Yes I have tried Eclipse, and as I said it was my favorite. But MIUI is really cool. I think I like it because its so different. And everything seems so integrated. Like the notifications, I love how It gives a place for a reply right in the notification! That rocks! It just looks and feels more refined.
I am finding a few more bugs. Like Youtube not working, or any streaming video for that matter. Even some of my saved vids on the SD card dont want to play. And I can't record video either. All freeze after about 2 seconds of play/recording.
So far that is the biggest turn-off for me. I use youtube allll the time. Anyone know if they are working on this? I even tried the mobile site, and neither that or the app work.
Eclipse had its glitches too. But both are very good ROMs.
Oh one other glitch that really bugged me from CM7 is gapps kept FC'ing after a while and I would need to un-install and re-install it every so often.
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No problem. Video play back was always odd for me on miui; there were certain sites were streaming would work perfectly and then there were ones that just never worked.
Nothing beats miui when it comes to customization
I think there was an update to the youtube app last month that enable you to stream videos from it.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
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Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
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smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
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Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.
Less than 10 posts so I have to post here!! Thanks to ANYBODY that had a hand in CM10!!! Installed CM10 a3 coming from the latest Eclipse. The only issue I had was google now crashing. Got the latest google search from jsgraphicart post# 1257 in the Development thread. Also used VideoCam Illusion for camcorder. ADW and Apex launchers killed my battery so I went back to stock. Loving Jelly Bean!! :good:
Loved A3, but not matter what I did, it killed the battery in just a couple of hours, so I had to go back to Eclipse.
i also love cm10, i just flashed back to eclipse 2.3 last night and have been thinking about an sbf all day. i mean, if you arent a heavy user, and you dont use many or ANY apps, cm10 runs very well.
I was pretty much forced to go back to CM10 from Eclipse. I was running a2 for a while, but couldn't deal with my apps crashing on me all the time. Lots of games, e-mail and Facebook, and a few others.
But, after a couple months with Eclipse... man, my phone was crashing a MINIMUM of twice a day due to the memory hitting a wall. I jump around a lot, going from facebook to a few games to mail within a half-hour or so. For whatever reason, Eclipse just wouldn't clear RAM properly, and it would force-reboot constantly.
Got sick of it and switched to a3, and gotta say I'm so much happier. I mean, I never disliked CM10, just the crashing was driving me nuts. But, I figure a crashed app on occasion is WAY better than a force-reboot. Plus, I found a post about an app that fixes the Google crashing issue.
Now, if only there were fixed apps for Gmail and Facebook...
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I was pretty much forced to go back to CM10 from Eclipse. I was running a2 for a while, but couldn't deal with my apps crashing on me all the time. Lots of games, e-mail and Facebook, and a few others.
But, after a couple months with Eclipse... man, my phone was crashing a MINIMUM of twice a day due to the memory hitting a wall. I jump around a lot, going from facebook to a few games to mail within a half-hour or so. For whatever reason, Eclipse just wouldn't clear RAM properly, and it would force-reboot constantly.
Got sick of it and switched to a3, and gotta say I'm so much happier. I mean, I never disliked CM10, just the crashing was driving me nuts. But, I figure a crashed app on occasion is WAY better than a force-reboot. Plus, I found a post about an app that fixes the Google crashing issue.
Now, if only there were fixed apps for Gmail and Facebook...
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This was brought up a while ago in the CM10 thread. Apparently the Blacked out Facebook app doesnt force close. I dont use Facebook so I never tried it. But you can get it here:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/b-...er-popular-apps-blacked-out-mar-8th-13-a.html
As far as Gmail, I'm not sure if anyone found a working one. But I think Gmail on the web works good.
I thought I saw that a while back, but couldn't find it again when I was looking for it. Thanks for that. I'll also have to give in-browser Gmail a shot, makes sense that it shouldn't close like the app does.
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Black app is a no-go. I had it force-crash on me twice already. Oh well...
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I thought I saw that a while back, but couldn't find it again when I was looking for it. Thanks for that. I'll also have to give in-browser Gmail a shot, makes sense that it shouldn't close like the app does.
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Black app is a no-go. I had it force-crash on me twice already. Oh well...
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Ah. I think I know why. They updated it to the newest version which I think is the problem. The same thing that happened with Google Now. I think one of the updates messed it up for the DX2. I'll try searching through the CM10 thread and see if anyone posted the old apk.
EDIT: Maybe this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36087163
Or maybe any of these versions (listed on the right hand side):
http://www.androiddrawer.com/2274/download-facebook-for-android-1-9-7-app-apk/#.UUN-W1toTpg
I'm just trying to find an old apk that might work for you.
I also like CM10 but the battery life scares me away every time, i use the DX2 as my main phone.
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I also like CM10 but the battery life scares me away every time, i use the DX2 as my main phone.
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i feel the same. after eclipse, cm10 goes to 50% after a half of a day with little to no use, and .... it is a very hard decision to make.
I haven't actually seen that much of a change in battery life between Eclipse and CM10. When I use them moderately, the battery life still plummets midway through the day, and if I don't use it at all, it will go two days on a charge. That much didn't change between them at all.
@jsgraphicart: You didn't have to do so much legwork, but I'm sure anyone who visits this thread that didn't see it before will appreciate it. I'll give those a try and report back which one (if any) works on our CM10.
I think I am done with eclipse for good. After a fresh install it will be very fast but over time it gradually begins to slow down and I get some processes that force close and some reboots. I also haven't noticed that much difference in battery life between eclipse and a3. Facebook hasn't crashed on me yet and I am on it many times during the day.
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Juice3250 said:
I think I am done with eclipse for good. After a fresh install it will be very fast but over time it gradually begins to slow down and I get some processes that force close and some reboots. I also haven't noticed that much difference in battery life between eclipse and a3. Facebook hasn't crashed on me yet and I am on it many times during the day.
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facebook from the play store?
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@jsgraphicart: You didn't have to do so much legwork, but I'm sure anyone who visits this thread that didn't see it before will appreciate it. I'll give those a try and report back which one (if any) works on our CM10.
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Its cool. I enjoy helping.
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
facebook from the play store?
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I restored facebook from tibu but I'm sure that I installed an update after.
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Actually figured out what the problem is. Which, I knew it before, but forgot. 90% of the Black Facebook works on CM10. The part that doesn't? Groups pages and Events pages. Those continue to crash, because apparently they use something different for those.
So, while the regular portions of Facebook have not caused the app to crash, every time I go to Groups (which I do A LOT) causes it to CTD.