Hey guys, so I was wondering if there's a processor management solution out there compatible with XXLPQ.
Also, if anyone knows if there's an app that lets you disable one processor and OC the other? I'd imagine that'd increase battery life without reducing the performance.
Anyway, thanks for reading!
ICS is designed for multi core support, I believe OC one core and disable the other will screw the overall performance.
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Hey guys, so I was wondering if there's a processor management solution out there compatible with XXLPQ.
Also, if anyone knows if there's an app that lets you disable one processor and OC the other? I'd imagine that'd increase battery life without reducing the performance.
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Do really you think thousands of engineers working at Samsung, the top electronics company in the world, are idiots and some loser in his parents' basement is going to come up with a better CPU management solution?
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Do really you think thousands of engineers working at Samsung, the top electronics company in the world, are idiots and some loser in his parents' basement is going to come up with a better CPU management solution?
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GTFO. I didn't ask for your piece of **** unhelpful hate. The guy above explained, ICS is designed for multi-core.
I also mentioned that it shouldn't take a drastic hit on performance, it will, but I doubt most of us would notice. Now go back to your basement and jack off like you always do you f***ing loner.
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ICS is designed for multi core support, I believe OC one core and disable the other will screw the overall performance.
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Cool. Do you know an over-clocking app compatible with this OS version though? I'd like to underclock my 2 cores to 800mHz to save some battery.
zaersx said:
GTFO. I didn't ask for your piece of **** unhelpful hate. The guy above explained, ICS is designed for multi-core.
I also mentioned that it shouldn't take a drastic hit on performance, it will, but I doubt most of us would notice. Now go back to your basement and jack off like you always do you f***ing loner.
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Ok not LPQ yet but.
Siyah kernel and extweaks app lets you play with the thresholds that the 2nd core cuts in and out. I think other custom kernels do it too.
I haven't played with it but worth investigating. Only a matter of time before Samsung release kernel sources and these blokes update the goods.
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Ok not LPQ yet but.
Siyah kernel and extweaks app lets you play with the thresholds that the 2nd core cuts in and out. I think other custom kernels do it too.
I haven't played with it but worth investigating. Only a matter of time before Samsung release kernel sources and these blokes update the goods.
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That sounds pretty spot on actually, I'll look into that stuff.
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After last weeks DX farce with 2Ghz and 3Ghz Im cautious however these guys seem to have the benchies to back it up. We've long heard the potential for the hummingbird was 1.6. Only sad part is they say no Fascinate development till they get one. Removing the 56fps cap is nice too
I've never heard of these guys before? Legit? Renowned? Anyone know.
I would say all is BS until proven other wise. In my opinion the hardware would burn up at those speeds.
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I would say all is BS until proven other wise. In my opinion the hardware would burn up at those speeds.
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While not safe, I seriously doubt it would burn up.
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While not safe, I seriously doubt it would burn up.
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Agreed. 1.6 has long been discussed as an achieveable speed. Dirrk was tinkering with it weeks ago. Its voltage requirement obviously is high and near the threshold point given the non-active cooling for the cpu. But I would not be surprised this could be achieved. I mean shoot we have 1.25Ghz on less than stock voltage already.
Benchmarks in one hand, stability in the other. When I see a posted kernel with good reviews for a week or so, I'll do more than raise an eyebrow. lol.
It's on the OCLF kernel, which if I remember, is well known for posting high quadrant scores without giving any real performance benefit.
Also, benchmark overclock's in the desktop world are always just for demonstration, not an application. Ever seen that 7GHz overclock benchmark they did on a Pentium 4?
This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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This doesn't suprise me. I could push my Droid to 1.32ghz. That's well over a 100% overclock. Achieving a 60% overclock shouldn't be too hard, especially on newer and much better hardware.
I find it tough to believe that most phones will be stable at a 60% overclock. Granted, Im only speaking from my experience with desktop CPUs... What type of software do people run to test stability?
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This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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Thats encouraging
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I find it tough to believe that most phones will be stable at a 60% overclock. Granted, Im only speaking from my experience with desktop CPUs... What type of software do people run to test stability?
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What has been your experience with desktop cpu's. I cannot remember the last desktop cpu I have which at least 50% so I dont find 60% outrageously unreasonable. Active cooling obviously makes a difference.
With the battery life Im seeing on Dirrks UV kernels and even what I got on stock voltages pre-OC I would feel confident I could still get a full day off a 1.4-1.5Ghz hummingbird even if the voltage had to be raised to 1400mv.
I'm having trouble with stability with the 1.2 OC kernals...
So I checked out the thread in the vibrant section. This is def for real! Looks awesome! I had trouble with dirrks lv 1200. But every other kernel has ran fine. I'm sure that eventually we'll have everything we can dream on this phone. Good thing its already so great that I don't mind waiting. I hope I don't have to find an excuse to exchange my phone in search of one that can handle more.
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After last weeks DX farce with 2Ghz and 3Ghz Im cautious however these guys seem to have the benchies to back it up. We've long heard the potential for the hummingbird was 1.6. Only sad part is they say no Fascinate development till they get one. Removing the 56fps cap is nice too
I've never heard of these guys before? Legit? Renowned? Anyone know.
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@teamwhiskey is a god send. they have pulled the download though,due to flaws in their kernal. they are in the process of re-vamping it and re-testing. it seems while the kernal did improve performance it is unknown how much because it was also manipulating the internal clock speed.
def legit.
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@teamwhiskey is a god send. they have pulled the download though,due to flaws in their kernal. they are in the process of re-vamping it and re-testing. it seems while the kernal did improve performance it is unknown how much because it was also manipulating the internal clock speed.
def legit.
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That sounds like what Dirrk ran into at 1.6 as well
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That sounds like what Dirrk ran into at 1.6 as well
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Yea its going to be a pain to get that kink worked out. But from what ive heard theyre making headway. Now if only I could get a.perm root for the g2 lol.
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Yes this is for real. I personally run it. Heres quadrant I ran last night. This kernel should be ported to all SGS phones. As long as they get a good dev with this phone to help port.
CPU didnt see near the gain I had hoped it would.
ya the CPU is getting destroyed by the N1. And what is with the ridiculous I/O. Did someone port a PCI express array of SSD's on the Vibrant? Maybe they just developed the GOD file system.
I make jokes, but I want the screen of my Fascinate to say 3439 also haha
I am on a mesmerize niw coming from a vibrant. I used this kernel. There was a timing issue. The io scores come from oclf which cheats quadrant. Those guys have released a pretty stable 1.4 oc that is real. I got 68 fps in neocore. Truth be told guys there is no need for oc in my opinion. With froyo the phone plays flash easily. Only application of oc to me is emulation and bragging rights. A good voodoo kernel works wonders honestly.
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wooow way to bring this one back from the dead
Hi all,
so far i havent seen any kernel or module that supports reading the current temperature of the CPU on galaxy s2. Is there any kernel that supports it? Is any of the developers already working on it?
Any solution for monitoring CPU temperature?
OT: sorry for this off topic post but here you are bala. I've heard you bricked your sgsl? Anyway, i was thinking of buying an s2. Good to know there is a fellow sgsl user here
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OT: sorry for this off topic post but here you are bala. I've heard you bricked your sgsl? Anyway, i was thinking of buying an s2. Good to know there is a fellow sgsl user here
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Nice to see u here, i didnt bricked but smocked it once when i was fiddling with overclocking module and got a replacement from service center.But this S2 is mindblowing when compared to SL, so you can get it without a doubt
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Nice to see u here, i didnt bricked but smocked it once when i was fiddling with overclocking module and got a replacement from service center.But this S2 is mindblowing when compared to SL, so you can get it without a doubt
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I see.. Will be joining the sgs2 clan soon buddy.. But will stay faithful in sgsl.. Anyway, glad to know your sl is ok..
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No one to answer this?? So bad... DO people think monitoring CPU temperature in S2 is useless?
I think CPU/GPU temperature monitor is very useful. However, the question comes down to does the CPU/GPU have a temperature sensor built in, and how to access the information from the monitoring chip.
Most of the hardware are closed source and either requires leaked information or reverse engineering.
If there is a temperature sensor built in, and the stock rom can access the information, then there will be a kernel with this feature coming soon.
So far, I only seen Battery Temperature monitor because the batteries have a BMS, and sadly do not see any application or stock rom function to check CPU/GPU temperature.
Thanks for your reply, i dont think a mobile with all those goodies (and cost) will lack a sensor in hardware, as there are only a very few phones having theses sensors for cpu temperature reading lets hope there are some drivers which can be combined with the kernel to read those.
+1 to monitor CPU/GPU temp. But flashing a different kernel is not a good idea. Sammy better put this feature in their kernel in future firmware update.
Regards.
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Thanks for your reply, i dont think a mobile with all those goodies (and cost) will lack a sensor in hardware, as there are only a very few phones having theses sensors for cpu temperature reading lets hope there are some drivers which can be combined with the kernel to read those.
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What you are stating is an assumption, which doesn't make it true.
Here's my assumption, the official kernel is open source, if there are thermal diode in cpu, and a monitoring controller to access the temperature, it is in the source codes. If there are no applications in the original rom, and there are no 3rd party application that can tell you the temperature of the cpu. Then my assumption is it might not be available.
Of course, my assumption doesn't mean I wish there isn't one. I wish there is!
On a side note, [Q] Brutal OverHeat and Brutal Battery Drain!!! thread seems to be talking about system temperature, or might be battery temperature, perhaps they have an app installed?
@ LiFE1688
They are talking about battery temperature on that thread... It would be better if some good recognized developers have a look on it.... Hope this mob has that sensor. Generally these latest generation ARM processors should have it, and if there is one a driver from samsung opensource would be awesome to have this feature.
For the convenience of writing,Overclock shall be referred to as OC.
So,the Ace has started recieving OC kernels,which is a good thing but OC is dangerous too.I decided to make a thread and warn all users who don't know much and overclock.So,with this thread,I intend to educate all newbies about OCing before users start bricking their phone.
I shall write about overclocking,what overclocking does and then discuss abotut the various advantages and disadvantages it comes with
WHAT IS OVERCLOCKING?
Overclocking is the process of operating a computer component at a higher clock rate.In our case,the processor.Most people overclock their phones for perfomance but this so-called perfomance comes at a price which every user who oc should know about.So,I am going to discuss it
Android phones are clocked at a safe level when we buy it.However,we exceed this 'safe level' when oc it.
ADVANTAGES OF OVERCLOCKING:
1.Perfomance-OCing gives perfomance and thats what most people go after when they oc.
2.Cost-saving-Some people who have extensive knowledge about OCing do it to save money.For eg-Some people claim that they can get clock speeds upto 1GHz
when they oc.SGS has a clock speed of 1GHz(but when they overclock,they get better speeds I just put this one in so that people can have better knowledge)
DISADVANTAGES OF OVERCLOCKING:
1.Excess heat production-OCing produces more heat,nothing to be added
2.Lifespan decreases-By overclocking to extreme levels,you are actually killing your phone.Because of the excess heat generated,some interior parts may get damages.
3.Damage to GPU-Because of the heat generated(i think)
4.Excess Battery consumption-Because of the intense heat generated and the unusual number of charge cycles,battery consumption becomes high.As you might already know,Ace's battery is really suckish.With OC,its going to be even worse.
5.Permanent effects-If you were having weird effects when you OCed for a long time,you are not going to feel much better when you right-clock again
6.Instability-Stability levels of various phones vary Some get OC speeds near 1GHz while others are having trouble getting over 900MHz
7.FCs,Reboots and other errors-You have a chance of getting constant reboots and FCs when you OC,it depends.Some have even complainde of their touchscreen having complains when they switch to OC kernel
FINAL WORDS:
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING,DON'T DO IT
OCing experiences/Suggestions:
Valakas:
Im used to OCing almost all the PC's i had, and my SGA wasnt an exception but sadly i didnt notice any huge improvement in the performance or in the lags i had in some huge games.
OC is a good way of wasting battery life and perhaps burn your phone. i wouldnt advise anybody to do it because its just not worthy.
P4qui7o:
I better get a new and stronger phone instead doing this !
Anyway you're phone is gonna "howl" some day after OC, and if you don't have money to buy another one, you've better keep it at 800Hz, stock ... my opinion
Yukinok25:
I have been OC's my HTC HERO since I bought it (2009), it's an old ARMv6 525mhz, which I pushed to 710mhz/MAX.
I NEVER had any issue for my OC's, I obviously can say that it becames maybe slightly warmer than the stock clock but nothing near hot.
Thanks to this, my Hero is running all the lastest rom with no lag for this two years, and so the other people in the Hero forum (basically 90% of the people OC's).
I am agree with the opener that OC's could be dangerous and it might decrease the lifespan of your device, but I also think it depends on the hardware, and I am not agree when I just read is "not" useful, because it DOES give a huge boost to your device.
Besides you can undervolting your CPU when your smartphone is in Idle (my MIN is 19 mhz), so the heat won't be generated anymore, you will save battery life, and the paradox... you will extend the life cicle of your CPU.
Also keep in mind that developers are improving the OC's working on new governors and kernels all the time.
There are risks also when we flash a rom or a new radio version, but that doesn't mean they are not useful. We flash them because we want to enhance our devices
Pardon me,if there are any mistakes,technical or grammatical,if i have missed anything.
Thanx to Wikipedia,PujitJuneja and Google
P.S. I didn't copy-paste it from anywhere,wrote it all down.So,a click on the thanks button will be greatly appreciated
Cheers
I think this was a good piece to explain risks and rewards of OCing.
All d noobies should take a look at this.
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Empty Reply?
Anyways, this is an awesome thread for people who don't know a lot about Overclocking
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Whats that supposed to be,empty post?
pujitjuneja said:
Empty Reply?
Anyways, this is an awesome thread for people who don't know a lot about Overclocking
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Couldnt have done it without you
I better get a new and stronger phone instead doing this !
Anyway you're phone is gonna "howl" some day after OC, and if you don't have money to buy another one, you've better keep it at 800Hz, stock ... my opinion
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Couldnt have done it without you
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Hehe, always happy to help (Well only for some people )
Thank for ur info
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Thank for ur info
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Anytime
Well done
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Great work!
And to add to this maybe..
The battery will get effed up pretty soon coz of the rapid discharging and the more than usual number of charge cycles and also the heat
Im used to OC almost all the PC's i had, and my SGA wouldnt be the exception to that rule. But sadly i didnt notice any huge improve in the performance or in the lags i had in some huge games.
OC is a good way of wasting battery life and perhaps burn your phone. i wouldnt advise anybody to do it because its just not worthy.
Thanx for the suggestion guyz...Will add them
Without cooler (radiator) OC on SGA its a danger experiment-be care full. Sorry for my weak English.
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Thanks for the useful info here ....
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Thanks for the useful info here ....
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Anytime
PafcioPjay said:
Without cooler (radiator) OC on SGA its a danger experiment-be care full. Sorry for my weak English.
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Its already written-heating effect
i was wondering if it's okay to install the v6 supercharger script for rooted at&t s3?
any thoughts?
thanks.
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i was wondering if it's okay to install the v6 supercharger script for rooted at&t s3?
any thoughts?
thanks.
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Don't know why it would hurt. Have at it. Just make a nandroid before you attempt.
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I did it for my S3 but for Sprint, havent really seen any difference yet.
have never been impressed with these script packs......they seem to do minimal to everyday tasks....I honestly feel they are mostly snake oil. they appear good in theory but have never had a positive experience with them
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have never been impressed with these script packs......they seem to do minimal to everyday tasks....I honestly feel they are mostly snake oil. they appear good in theory but have never had a positive experience with them
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lulz....
zeppelinrox said:
lulz....
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you can lulz all you want, but they only made marginal improvements and over time they actually degraded and caused problems.....been doing this a long time so it's not like I was doing it wrong all the time...and I gave it plenty of a fair chance.....I don't say things like that about a developers work after only giving it a "lulz" effort.....so no offense....but most of it was placebo and could only be seen on synthetic benchmarks even when it did work
lulz because you're comparing apples and oranges... you don't even know what SuperCharger is... and it really has no effect on benchmarks.
Kick Ass Kernel should but not SuperCharger.
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you can lulz all you want, but they only made marginal improvements and over time they actually degraded and caused problems.....been doing this a long time so it's not like I was doing it wrong all the time...and I gave it plenty of a fair chance.....I don't say things like that about a developers work after only giving it a "lulz" effort.....so no offense....but most of it was placebo and could only be seen on synthetic benchmarks even when it did work
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The v6 script was originally developed for the milestone, which, now, is terribly outdated. However, from what I can tell, it improves performance on lower end devices (512mb RAM 700mhz~ processor). Our higher end devices with 1GB+ RAM and 1Ghz+ cpus mainly just produce the placebo effect or only marginal improvements in performance.
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Thats what they said about 512 mb devices too.
Here's the cycle... hardware improves... then the OS and it's apps get more bloated.
You know... kinda like how nature hates a vaccuum so it always gets filled...
Or the effect of inflation on wages... sure... wages go up... but buying power stays the same...
etc... etc... lol
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Thats what they said about 512 mb devices too.
Here's the cycle... hardware improves... then the OS and it's apps get more bloated.
You know... kinda like how nature hates a vaccuum so it always gets filled...
Or the effect of inflation on wages... sure... wages go up... but buying power stays the same...
etc... etc... lol
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True. But there is always that slight lag between hardware updates and software updates where the new hardware doesn't need any improvements to run the software significantly better than the old hardware.
If only the manufacturers would stop throwing money into upgrading hardware and put that money into better, more elegant software development, then the older hardware would be supportable longer. Sadly, its never going to happen.
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lulz because you're comparing apples and oranges... you don't even know what SuperCharger is... and it really has no effect on benchmarks.
Kick Ass Kernel should but not SuperCharger.
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i don't want to start anything, because I appreciate anything done to improve performance on these devices, but i know one thing....every time it is mentioned in a post or a signature....it's sold as this super duper chromed up be all end all solution that is going to "supercharge" your android experience. it doesn't matter if I don't know what it is because my knowledge of what it is has nothing to do with "how awesome it is".....it's sold as this ultimate thing that makes **** faster....it has this huge following...and it's got this fancy signature logo and all these options and it's advertised as being oh so great.....and then I used it......
for me, across a couple different devices, that hasn't happened at all, not even close, it didn't even do that in one particular situation......it just really didn't do anything for any of my android devices.....unfortunately...it actually degraded performance over time......i'll leave it at that
I can tell you were probably using update 8 or at the very least... a VERY long time ago
Well thanks.
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You're welcome... tho that also means you've missed out on massive improvements lol
Would disabling the other 2 cores of s3 really help with the battery life?
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Would disabling the other 2 cores of s3 really help with the battery life?
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why you want to do that? sell ur phone and buy s2(dual core)
danierakes said:
why you want to do that? sell ur phone and buy s2(dual core)
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Well because I want to increase my battery life and I'm kinda trying to experiment. And dual core because IMO quad core phones don't generally give a huge performance increase in the Real World. The best examples I can think of are the Moto X and iPhone 5s. So that is why.
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Well because I want to increase my battery life and I'm kinda trying to experiment. And dual core because IMO quad core phones don't generally give a huge performance increase in the Real World. The best examples I can think of are the Moto X and iPhone 5s. So that is why.
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SEARCH the question has been asked multiple times .
mahendru1992 said:
Would disabling the other 2 cores of s3 really help with the battery life?
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why not trying it instead of creating a new simple thread?
It might bump your batt. tiny bit.
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sriram231092 said:
why not trying it instead of creating a new simple thread?
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hahaha lol you do have a point.
I was just being lazy and wanted an opinion.
I actually see no point on disabling 2 CPU core for a (maybe?) battery boost.
You may tweak something else... like watching with BetterbatteryStats which app/something-else is forcing your phone into awake state.
Or trying a (little) undervolt => watch out for instabilities!
You can also try a different governor, like zzmoove with a battery-friendly preset (if your kernel exposes that function/feature)