Would disabling the other 2 cores of s3 really help with the battery life?
mahendru1992 said:
Would disabling the other 2 cores of s3 really help with the battery life?
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why you want to do that? sell ur phone and buy s2(dual core)
danierakes said:
why you want to do that? sell ur phone and buy s2(dual core)
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Well because I want to increase my battery life and I'm kinda trying to experiment. And dual core because IMO quad core phones don't generally give a huge performance increase in the Real World. The best examples I can think of are the Moto X and iPhone 5s. So that is why.
mahendru1992 said:
Well because I want to increase my battery life and I'm kinda trying to experiment. And dual core because IMO quad core phones don't generally give a huge performance increase in the Real World. The best examples I can think of are the Moto X and iPhone 5s. So that is why.
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SEARCH the question has been asked multiple times .
mahendru1992 said:
Would disabling the other 2 cores of s3 really help with the battery life?
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why not trying it instead of creating a new simple thread?
It might bump your batt. tiny bit.
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sriram231092 said:
why not trying it instead of creating a new simple thread?
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hahaha lol you do have a point.
I was just being lazy and wanted an opinion.
I actually see no point on disabling 2 CPU core for a (maybe?) battery boost.
You may tweak something else... like watching with BetterbatteryStats which app/something-else is forcing your phone into awake state.
Or trying a (little) undervolt => watch out for instabilities!
You can also try a different governor, like zzmoove with a battery-friendly preset (if your kernel exposes that function/feature)
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Right now the jump between 1ghz to 1.1ghz shows no real world benefit. I have a couple of questions:
1. Does overclocking to 1.1ghz effect the battery enought to see a difference?
2. Does undervolting save battery enough to see a difference?
3. If i have a custom kernal but still running at 1ghz, will the battery be the same/worse/better then runnning 1ghz on stock kernel
4. Does undervolting have any negative effects on performance
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The best type of experience, is 1st hand.
Why not try it out and make this thread a log of your results?
1username4thisforum said:
The best type of experience, is 1st hand.
Why not try it out and make this thread a log of your results?
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Not trying to be rude, but does not answer my question. Why go through the procedure when someone who has already done it or has experience with it is kind enough to post answers.
primeboss said:
Right now the jump between 1ghz to 1.1ghz shows no real world benefit. I have a couple of questions:
1. Does overclocking to 1.1ghz effect the battery enought to see a difference?
2. Does undervolting save battery enough to see a difference?
3. If i have a custom kernal but still running at 1ghz, will the battery be the same/worse/better then runnning 1ghz on stock kernel
4. Does undervolting have any negative effects on performance
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1 Yes it does, but the phone only uses that frequency when pushed to limits, so not much.
2 Yes, i believe it does.
3 I found faux kernel to drink my battery like water even oj stock clock. Edgan's didnt have that problem.
4 it may cause random reboots if ur UV lvls are beyond the phone's capabilities.
Ps1: hes got a point, all impressions are too personal, they dont translate to universal experience.
Ps2: the greatest use of OC on the atrix right now is the webtop, that really pushes all possible processing power.
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Viamonte said:
1 Yes it does, but the phone only uses that frequency when pushed to limits, so not much.
2 Yes, i believe it does.
3 I found faux kernel to drink my battery like water even oj stock clock. Edgan's didnt have that problem.
4 it may cause random reboots if ur UV lvls are beyond the phone's capabilities.
Ps1: hes got a point, all impressions are too personal, they dont translate to universal experience.
Ps2: the greatest use of OC on the atrix right now is the webtop, that really pushes all possible processing power.
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Thank You!
For the convenience of writing,Overclock shall be referred to as OC.
So,the Ace has started recieving OC kernels,which is a good thing but OC is dangerous too.I decided to make a thread and warn all users who don't know much and overclock.So,with this thread,I intend to educate all newbies about OCing before users start bricking their phone.
I shall write about overclocking,what overclocking does and then discuss abotut the various advantages and disadvantages it comes with
WHAT IS OVERCLOCKING?
Overclocking is the process of operating a computer component at a higher clock rate.In our case,the processor.Most people overclock their phones for perfomance but this so-called perfomance comes at a price which every user who oc should know about.So,I am going to discuss it
Android phones are clocked at a safe level when we buy it.However,we exceed this 'safe level' when oc it.
ADVANTAGES OF OVERCLOCKING:
1.Perfomance-OCing gives perfomance and thats what most people go after when they oc.
2.Cost-saving-Some people who have extensive knowledge about OCing do it to save money.For eg-Some people claim that they can get clock speeds upto 1GHz
when they oc.SGS has a clock speed of 1GHz(but when they overclock,they get better speeds I just put this one in so that people can have better knowledge)
DISADVANTAGES OF OVERCLOCKING:
1.Excess heat production-OCing produces more heat,nothing to be added
2.Lifespan decreases-By overclocking to extreme levels,you are actually killing your phone.Because of the excess heat generated,some interior parts may get damages.
3.Damage to GPU-Because of the heat generated(i think)
4.Excess Battery consumption-Because of the intense heat generated and the unusual number of charge cycles,battery consumption becomes high.As you might already know,Ace's battery is really suckish.With OC,its going to be even worse.
5.Permanent effects-If you were having weird effects when you OCed for a long time,you are not going to feel much better when you right-clock again
6.Instability-Stability levels of various phones vary Some get OC speeds near 1GHz while others are having trouble getting over 900MHz
7.FCs,Reboots and other errors-You have a chance of getting constant reboots and FCs when you OC,it depends.Some have even complainde of their touchscreen having complains when they switch to OC kernel
FINAL WORDS:
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING,DON'T DO IT
OCing experiences/Suggestions:
Valakas:
Im used to OCing almost all the PC's i had, and my SGA wasnt an exception but sadly i didnt notice any huge improvement in the performance or in the lags i had in some huge games.
OC is a good way of wasting battery life and perhaps burn your phone. i wouldnt advise anybody to do it because its just not worthy.
P4qui7o:
I better get a new and stronger phone instead doing this !
Anyway you're phone is gonna "howl" some day after OC, and if you don't have money to buy another one, you've better keep it at 800Hz, stock ... my opinion
Yukinok25:
I have been OC's my HTC HERO since I bought it (2009), it's an old ARMv6 525mhz, which I pushed to 710mhz/MAX.
I NEVER had any issue for my OC's, I obviously can say that it becames maybe slightly warmer than the stock clock but nothing near hot.
Thanks to this, my Hero is running all the lastest rom with no lag for this two years, and so the other people in the Hero forum (basically 90% of the people OC's).
I am agree with the opener that OC's could be dangerous and it might decrease the lifespan of your device, but I also think it depends on the hardware, and I am not agree when I just read is "not" useful, because it DOES give a huge boost to your device.
Besides you can undervolting your CPU when your smartphone is in Idle (my MIN is 19 mhz), so the heat won't be generated anymore, you will save battery life, and the paradox... you will extend the life cicle of your CPU.
Also keep in mind that developers are improving the OC's working on new governors and kernels all the time.
There are risks also when we flash a rom or a new radio version, but that doesn't mean they are not useful. We flash them because we want to enhance our devices
Pardon me,if there are any mistakes,technical or grammatical,if i have missed anything.
Thanx to Wikipedia,PujitJuneja and Google
P.S. I didn't copy-paste it from anywhere,wrote it all down.So,a click on the thanks button will be greatly appreciated
Cheers
I think this was a good piece to explain risks and rewards of OCing.
All d noobies should take a look at this.
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Empty Reply?
Anyways, this is an awesome thread for people who don't know a lot about Overclocking
EmoBoiix3 said:
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Whats that supposed to be,empty post?
pujitjuneja said:
Empty Reply?
Anyways, this is an awesome thread for people who don't know a lot about Overclocking
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Couldnt have done it without you
I better get a new and stronger phone instead doing this !
Anyway you're phone is gonna "howl" some day after OC, and if you don't have money to buy another one, you've better keep it at 800Hz, stock ... my opinion
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Couldnt have done it without you
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Hehe, always happy to help (Well only for some people )
Thank for ur info
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Thank for ur info
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Anytime
Well done
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Great work!
And to add to this maybe..
The battery will get effed up pretty soon coz of the rapid discharging and the more than usual number of charge cycles and also the heat
Im used to OC almost all the PC's i had, and my SGA wouldnt be the exception to that rule. But sadly i didnt notice any huge improve in the performance or in the lags i had in some huge games.
OC is a good way of wasting battery life and perhaps burn your phone. i wouldnt advise anybody to do it because its just not worthy.
Thanx for the suggestion guyz...Will add them
Without cooler (radiator) OC on SGA its a danger experiment-be care full. Sorry for my weak English.
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Thanks for the useful info here ....
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Thanks for the useful info here ....
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Anytime
PafcioPjay said:
Without cooler (radiator) OC on SGA its a danger experiment-be care full. Sorry for my weak English.
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Its already written-heating effect
Hey guys, so I was wondering if there's a processor management solution out there compatible with XXLPQ.
Also, if anyone knows if there's an app that lets you disable one processor and OC the other? I'd imagine that'd increase battery life without reducing the performance.
Anyway, thanks for reading!
ICS is designed for multi core support, I believe OC one core and disable the other will screw the overall performance.
zaersx said:
Hey guys, so I was wondering if there's a processor management solution out there compatible with XXLPQ.
Also, if anyone knows if there's an app that lets you disable one processor and OC the other? I'd imagine that'd increase battery life without reducing the performance.
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Do really you think thousands of engineers working at Samsung, the top electronics company in the world, are idiots and some loser in his parents' basement is going to come up with a better CPU management solution?
aydc said:
Do really you think thousands of engineers working at Samsung, the top electronics company in the world, are idiots and some loser in his parents' basement is going to come up with a better CPU management solution?
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GTFO. I didn't ask for your piece of **** unhelpful hate. The guy above explained, ICS is designed for multi-core.
I also mentioned that it shouldn't take a drastic hit on performance, it will, but I doubt most of us would notice. Now go back to your basement and jack off like you always do you f***ing loner.
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ICS is designed for multi core support, I believe OC one core and disable the other will screw the overall performance.
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Cool. Do you know an over-clocking app compatible with this OS version though? I'd like to underclock my 2 cores to 800mHz to save some battery.
zaersx said:
GTFO. I didn't ask for your piece of **** unhelpful hate. The guy above explained, ICS is designed for multi-core.
I also mentioned that it shouldn't take a drastic hit on performance, it will, but I doubt most of us would notice. Now go back to your basement and jack off like you always do you f***ing loner.
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Ok not LPQ yet but.
Siyah kernel and extweaks app lets you play with the thresholds that the 2nd core cuts in and out. I think other custom kernels do it too.
I haven't played with it but worth investigating. Only a matter of time before Samsung release kernel sources and these blokes update the goods.
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Ok not LPQ yet but.
Siyah kernel and extweaks app lets you play with the thresholds that the 2nd core cuts in and out. I think other custom kernels do it too.
I haven't played with it but worth investigating. Only a matter of time before Samsung release kernel sources and these blokes update the goods.
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That sounds pretty spot on actually, I'll look into that stuff.
Hi people,
This thing is really bothering me a lot! I know what overclocking your cpu is but I really don't understand what's the exact advantage and disadvantage of it?
I mean when should we overclock our devices? While charging? While doing multitasking? Or while playing games?
Please.. I need some guidance on it!
Thanks in advance!
Advantage....
iamdchosen1 said:
Hi people,
This thing is really bothering me a lot! I know what overclocking your cpu is but I really don't understand what's the exact advantage and disadvantage of it?
I mean when should we overclock our devices? While charging? While doing multitasking? Or while playing games?
Please.. I need some guidance on it!
Thanks in advance!
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overclocking actually increases your processor speed so basically you overclock when u r playing HD games or while multitasking...
Disadvantage ...
you may damage your hardware if u constantly overclock.... so be very careful while overclocking....
iamdchosen1 said:
I know what overclocking your cpu is
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Don't get me rude, but, no you don't know what OC is, since you need to ask this question.
iamdchosen1 said:
I really don't understand what's the exact advantage and disadvantage of it?
I mean when should we overclock our devices? While charging? While doing multitasking? Or while playing games?
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While charging?? You think it will charge up faster?
Anw, as much as it's good, it's bad.
It's "same" in PC's and phones, why I say "same"? PC have one advantage, we call it cooler and vent's.
To get better info on OC: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking+pros+and+cons
Overclocking is basically making your phone's processor faster than it should be.
Advantages: Faster phone.
Disadvantages: Short life span of phone
Normally, if I overclock, I only increase it to a little more than My processor's stock speed and set the governor to ondemand. Ondemand means only if your phone requires more power it will use more. Be careful though, and DON'T go crazy with the overclocking
You only need to know one thing for overclocking
Never do it if you don't lag like E#@.
I am on stock Rom, kernel.. Rooted.. Locked BL. I underclock my phone frequently. Sometimes I overclock to 1ghz. Wil it damage hardware and cause less lifespan
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viseshprasad said:
I am on stock Rom, kernel.. Rooted.. Locked BL. I underclock my phone frequently. Sometimes I overclock to 1ghz. Wil it damage hardware and cause less lifespan
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Read definition of overclocking
1GHz is not overclock, since its made to work on 1GHz by default.
Besides it can't damage it if (again) its made to work on 1GHz.
Does overclocking consumes more battery ?
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a1b2c99 said:
Does overclocking consumes more battery ?
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yes :crying: it does consume more battery as cpu always remains at higher frequencies so all the androidians keeps there devices a bit underclocked so to have a good battery life!!
dont forget to press the thanks button!!:angel:
now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
blackbass595 said:
now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
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1800 is a VERY good starting point.... I ran a kernel when I had the International variant and it was FAST!! I think it was called "Bullet" kernel...?
blackbass595 said:
now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
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I was looking stuff up on that today. The highest I could find documented was 1900 on the cpu and 800 on the gpu.
For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
imnuts said:
For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
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hey thats good to know...like i stated though. if there ever was a phone that needed over clock this one IS NOT it. i cant bog it down right now and believe me ive tried. someone out there might can but i cant.
imnuts said:
For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
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I just like to play around with different kernels but the kernel I was using def made the device snappier and I had some killer benchmarks! But you are right though! Custom kernels on this device is not really necessary...
I plan on building a custom kernel then, hopefully tomorrow night or possibly Saturday. I do have some plans to improve it, but nothing related to the CPU or GPU going faster, just having other stuff operate better and getting rid of anything not needed.
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1800 is a VERY good starting point.... I ran a kernel when I had the International variant and it was FAST!! I think it was called "Bullet" kernel...?
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I hope I don't get another lemon CPU... my TBolt's would only overclock to 1.4G, anything above and it locked up.
DaWolf850 said:
I hope I don't get another lemon CPU... my TBolt's would only overclock to 1.4G, anything above and it locked up.
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That's better than me. I could run 1200 for weeks but at 1400 about every other day it would restart randomly.
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That's better than me. I could run 1200 for weeks but at 1400 about every other day it would restart randomly.
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HA. My TBolt stayed stable at 1200, but ANYTHING higher than that and it would crap out on me.
I could run my bolt stable at 1700 all day. Kept it at 14 for a month no issues. Stayed at 13 the rest of the time. Course at 17 it was like it was running on a watch battery with the amount of time it would last. Lol
Eh I ran 1.6Ghz on my Thunderbolt 24/7 and with the 2750mah battery it lasted me days.
On a phone like that there was a significant improvement to the end user that justified the overclock. Now on the Note 2 I'd expect there to be very few who would want an overclock at all. I am part of the very few however. I play a lot of emulators on my phone and for N64 and Playstation I need all the raw CPU power I can get. Yep, even on this beast of a phone I still get some lag and stuttering on those emulators. The reason being is the same as PC gaming. AMD thinks that by adding more and more cores to their processors they can win the performance arena. Unfortunately they are wrong. Intel has the right idea, 4 cores is plenty now let's improve the efficiency and performance of those specific cores.
Same goes for our phones. Quad core is the most I'd ever want in my computers, anymore is just a waste. Now let's get better architecture for the processor to maximize clock-for-clock performance. And overclocking those cores helps it in apps that don't support more than one or two cores, because the baseline performance for each core is boosted.
So yeah, can't wait for a 1.8Ghz kernel