I have the original charger that came with our X10, I also have a 3rd party car charger and I charger for a different phone in my office. I use all 3 of these chargers to keep my X10 charged up.
My question is this. Do all USB chargers have the same voltage and amp specifications?
So will my car/office charger damage my phone?
Jamolah said:
I have the original charger that came with our X10, I also have a 3rd party car charger and I charger for a different phone in my office. I use all 3 of these chargers to keep my X10 charged up.
My question is this. Do all USB chargers have the same voltage and amp specifications?
So will my car/office charger damage my phone?
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USB is 5V as long as I remember. I've charged my phone with car & galaxy s2 charger and it is still working, so it shouldn't make any difference.
Usb is what the pc pumps out
Car charger is what the adaptor pumps out,same for mains charger.
Chargers normally tell you what current what is pumped out,so check that out.
Usb must be more of a trickle charge...
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Well for me, the USB cable is broken (never really understood why the design for microUSB's had the little flimsy teeth at the end). I simply replaced the cable with an LG brand and attached it to the original Sony charging block. Havent had any problems since.
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Hey guys,
I was wondering if these USB car chargers are compatible for the TP2?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dual-2-Ports-US...Accessories?hash=item518f99b7a9#ht_3242wt_958
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/DC-Car-Cigarett...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a567814a2
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-Mini-Uni...Accessories?hash=item414bbc871c#ht_2000wt_958
I'm asking because I remember in the past I used a HTC charger to charge the O2 XDA Flame and it charged. However, the phone started acting VERY weird and freeze a lot. I ended up having to hard reset it
Thanks!
I think any USB charger for electronic gaget that has a output of 5.0 v should work. It does not matter if it is an AC charger or and car lighter charger. I got one of these AC and another car lighter charger. There are all 5.0 v output. I use them to charge Ipod and phones.
chompx2 said:
I think any USB charger for electronic gaget that has a output of 5.0 v should work. It does not matter if it is an AC charger or and car lighter charger. I got one of these AC and another car lighter charger. There are all 5.0 v output. I use them to charge Ipod and phones.
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Thank you
It's best to choose one that can supply enough current (I think the wall charger supplies 2A, but 1A should be ok). Some devices will still trickle charge with a lower current, but others just won't trigger the charging circuits at all.
I had a cheap car charger that seemed to work ok most of the time, but it got worryingly hot after a while.
My TP2 came with an official HTC charger, so I use that now and it's great.
I have noticed that if the phone is OFF then 1A is not enough and usually stops charging but if the phone is ON it completes the charge..but takes for ever.
Has anyone experienced the charging overheat situation where the led flashes orange and green? I dont know if that is the situation but it only happens when I am charging in the car and the unit gets hot.
My old "OEM HTC" charger I got on ebay (the one with the blue HTC light) just stopped charging my phone after about 10-15 uses.
It lights on (charger), but my phone doesn't catch any charge lol
I got a 1A one, and unfortunately it cannot produce enough juice when running the GPS (copilot), after a while the phone shows a message telling the charge current is not enough.
The wall charger that came with the original box is 1A too, thus the problem might be with the cheap car charger.
Brando sells a 2A car adapter that should do the trick. They're out of stock right now, but it may be worth a look.
Hey!
Mine is a cheapo but does the trick. Charges the phone with satnav running, today went from 23% to full in less than 3 hours. Plus it's really tiny so I can keep my ashtray closed all the time. Using it with mini retractable cable, it all fits in the ashtray and it's handy to use.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Micro-Nano-Ti...daptors_SM?hash=item5638c26773#ht_1747wt_1165
3waygeek said:
Brando sells a 2A car adapter that should do the trick. They're out of stock right now, but it may be worth a look.
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The manual states that the output of the AC charger is 5.0 volts and 1 amp. That means the output of the DC/car charger should be the same. Using a 2 amp current might be charging the device faster but it would probably generate more heat and might shorten the battery life.
one tip, regardless of which charger you end up with, is to not leave the phone plugged in while starting the car. my understanding is that there can be be large voltage surges or fluctuations during the startup. depending on the design on the voltage converter inside the charger, some of that may be making it through to the phone.
i once had a AA NiCd battery smart charger that went wonky after using it in the car a lot, but that was with a straight-through 12V car to charger connector.
I made my own charger for using as a GPS on my motorcycles.
There is a charge select line in the plug. If the phone detects that it is connected to a USB port, the phone will not 'pull' more the 500ma. If that line is set to indicate a non USB port, then the phone will pull 1 amp. MAX (I never saw more then 900ma myself).
If you have the wrong charge plug, it may only charge at 500ma. If you have the correct plug and the charger can manage 5 amps, the phone will still only take 1 amp max.
For a while I used the phone in a waterproof box called an Aquabox. It would overheat during charging. I now only charge the phone when it is not in an enclosed hot space.
I'm still using the off-brand 'for Blackberry' car charger I got back when I had my Kaiser. Seems to be working just fine with this phone as well.
So I'm coming from the Apple world and I love having the Atrix because I can just use any microUSB cable that is around. I have a question about using different chargers though. The charger that can with the phone is 5.1V at 850mA but I have some extra Motorola ones that are lying around that are only 5.0V at 550mA. Will using the other charger degrade the performance of the battery over time or will it just take longer to get a full charge?
Spacebob11 said:
So I'm coming from the Apple world and I love having the Atrix because I can just use any microUSB cable that is around. I have a question about using different chargers though. The charger that can with the phone is 5.1V at 850mA but I have some extra Motorola ones that are lying around that are only 5.0V at 550mA. Will using the other charger degrade the performance of the battery over time or will it just take longer to get a full charge?
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Well it'll definitely take longer to charge but *could* cause problems in the battery. My guess is that it will judging by how others have had an "on and off" problem with lower-amperage chargers. Instead of just charging slowly the charging sort of stops and starts randomly. Leads to the assumption that the transformer in the phone itself is having trouble accepting the power. Constantly connecting and disconnecting power when charging a battery can have consequences later on.
Spacebob11 said:
So I'm coming from the Apple world and I love having the Atrix because I can just use any microUSB cable that is around. I have a question about using different chargers though. The charger that can with the phone is 5.1V at 850mA but I have some extra Motorola ones that are lying around that are only 5.0V at 550mA. Will using the other charger degrade the performance of the battery over time or will it just take longer to get a full charge?
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The Atrix is really picky with the chargers. I recommend to use only the original charger or the chargers that came with the docks. People described the weirdest things from touchscreen problems to not charging at all. Charging via USB cable doesn't work either (or it is very slow), neither on the computer nor in the car.
mgymnop said:
The Atrix is really picky with the chargers. I recommend to use only the original charger or the chargers that came with the docks. People described the weirdest things from touchscreen problems to not charging at all. Charging via USB cable doesn't work either (or it is very slow), neither on the computer nor in the car.
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In my opinion....
I wouldn't go as far to say "use only original chargers/Motorola chargers". The underlying issue is just like hotleadsingerguy said, lower-amperage chargers.
If you avoid these chargers, you should be fine. My Motorola Atrix charging brick/USB cable are still in their original packaging, inside the phone's box, tucked away in a cabinet.
At home, I have a few Blackberry MicroUSB chargers which I've used on my Captivate (not picky), and now they charge the Atrix without problems. They are 5.0V/700mA chargers.
At work, I pieced together some chargers from Monoprice, buying USB (female plug) power adapter with long USB -> MicroUSB cables. The power adapter from Monoprice is 5.0V/1000mA, and I use these chargers on my Atrix without a problem...and that's also using like 15 feet long cables.
Monoprice Power Adapter
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10420&cs_id=1042001&p_id=6171&seq=1&format=2
Blackberry Charger
http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-Or...0UGC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299396971&sr=8-1
I'd probably say your 550mA charger is not going to cut it, since I've seen some other threads mentioning charging problems with ~500mA chargers.
Certain power points seem to not charge but certain power points do the charging job perfectly?
what's a "power point"?
Glebun said:
what's a "power point"?
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The place where you plug your charger in.
that's a faulty charger then
Define 'power point'. Are you talking about different Usb cables, different chargers, different wall sockets or jiggling the cable's connector to the phone?
In the latter: replace the cable and you may need to clean the contacts on the phone (eg with a hard toothbrush)
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I think he means wall sockets
ysah i think he means wall sockets also at which it would still need to be a fault with his charger as its there that the voltage is converted to the voltage and ampherage that the phone uses.any differences in voltage that is given to the socket would most likely be on a very small scale
Ah I see. Does Sammy do one to one exchanges of the charger if its faulty?
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Does anyone here use aftermarket chargers? Thinking of an innergie one.
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I swapped.my cable, seems to charge better than the stock one..
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I have the same problem, but with all cables
I just posted to an other threat about charging problems, so i will copy/paste it:
I have the problem that the phone only want to charge with soms chargers.
I can connect the phone to the original charger or to a pc or any device without problems, the phone will charge.
Even with an old blackberry charger (only 2 wires, no data) and car charger can i charge without any problem!
But when i connect the phone to the htc charger of my old phone, or to an iphone charger i see the phone is connected but it won't charge.
When i open batterymonitor i see that the charger is connected, but the phone still use his battery.
I tried this with all kinds of charders and all kinds of micro usb cables. Then i thaught there was maybe a resistor or chip or something build in some chargers, because i couls only charge with chargers with 2 wire cables.
Then i took a usb extension cable and i disconnected the two data wires so only the + and - 5V cables were left,
but still no success. If anybody knows where the problem is, please let my know
with kind regards! Martijn
discovered the problem
blaffer4 said:
I just posted to an other threat about charging problems, so i will copy/paste it:
I have the problem that the phone only want to charge with soms chargers.
I can connect the phone to the original charger or to a pc or any device without problems, the phone will charge.
Even with an old blackberry charger (only 2 wires, no data) and car charger can i charge without any problem!
But when i connect the phone to the htc charger of my old phone, or to an iphone charger i see the phone is connected but it won't charge.
When i open batterymonitor i see that the charger is connected, but the phone still use his battery.
I tried this with all kinds of charders and all kinds of micro usb cables. Then i thaught there was maybe a resistor or chip or something build in some chargers, because i couls only charge with chargers with 2 wire cables.
Then i took a usb extension cable and i disconnected the two data wires so only the + and - 5V cables were left,
but still no success. If anybody knows where the problem is, please let my know
with kind regards! Martijn
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In the case there would be more people with this problem:
The problem is not caused by the charger but by the cable. If i use a cable that's a bit to small or to long i get problems. If you want a longer cable to charge your phone, you need a good and big one, not a cheap tiny cable. I only use good cables now and had no more problems for the last year or so...
Just thought I'd let people know of my experiences using a car charger with the USB magnetic charging cable. I have a 2.1 amp dual port USB car charger and also a Sony magnetic charging cable from my CP12 battery cover. I tried using the magnetic charging cable plugged into the car charger this morning and attached the magnetic charging end to my Xperia Z Ultra. The phone was on around 24% and started charging pretty quickly up until around 40% within probably 20mins. This is quite fast for this particular car charger as it seemed to take ages when I used to use it to charge my HTC One X with a normal micro USB cable. Anyway after it hit 40% I noticed it had stopped charging. I had a look at the charger and the power LED was off so I went to pull it out to check and noticed it was very hot! Not sure if it blew a fuse or went into thermal overload shutdown but I definitely think that it isn't really rated at 2.1amp.
Has anyone else had experiences using a car charger to charge their Xperia Z Ultra? I might just try the micro USB cable next time but I liked how quickly it charged with the magnetic charging cable.
I haven't tried it but I think the problem is the magnetic cable that you are using.
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julz said:
Just thought I'd let people know of my experiences using a car charger with the USB magnetic charging cable. I have a 2.1 amp dual port USB car charger and also a Sony magnetic charging cable from my CP12 battery cover. I tried using the magnetic charging cable plugged into the car charger this morning and attached the magnetic charging end to my Xperia Z Ultra. The phone was on around 24% and started charging pretty quickly up until around 40% within probably 20mins. This is quite fast for this particular car charger as it seemed to take ages when I used to use it to charge my HTC One X with a normal micro USB cable. Anyway after it hit 40% I noticed it had stopped charging. I had a look at the charger and the power LED was off so I went to pull it out to check and noticed it was very hot! Not sure if it blew a fuse or went into thermal overload shutdown but I definitely think that it isn't really rated at 2.1amp.
Has anyone else had experiences using a car charger to charge their Xperia Z Ultra? I might just try the micro USB cable next time but I liked how quickly it charged with the magnetic charging cable.
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I'm actually very impressed that you were able to get the magnetic cable to stay. If I am able to get the cable to stick, I can't even breathe around it.
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I'm actually very impressed that you were able to get the magnetic cable to stay. If I am able to get the cable to stick, I can't even breathe around it.
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100% agree
julz said:
Just thought I'd let people know of my experiences using a car charger with the USB magnetic charging cable. I have a 2.1 amp dual port USB car charger and also a Sony magnetic charging cable from my CP12 battery cover. I tried using the magnetic charging cable plugged into the car charger this morning and attached the magnetic charging end to my Xperia Z Ultra. The phone was on around 24% and started charging pretty quickly up until around 40% within probably 20mins. This is quite fast for this particular car charger as it seemed to take ages when I used to use it to charge my HTC One X with a normal micro USB cable. Anyway after it hit 40% I noticed it had stopped charging. I had a look at the charger and the power LED was off so I went to pull it out to check and noticed it was very hot! Not sure if it blew a fuse or went into thermal overload shutdown but I definitely think that it isn't really rated at 2.1amp.
Has anyone else had experiences using a car charger to charge their Xperia Z Ultra? I might just try the micro USB cable next time but I liked how quickly it charged with the magnetic charging cable.
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Hi Julz,
I hope your device is ok. I was using a similar charger in my car. Had two USB slots. 1amp and 2.1amp.
I'm not sure what cause it, or what happened. But I've had to send my Ultra to the store where I bought it. For some reason my device did that same as you describe. It also wouldn't stop the LED from showing. Meaning that it thought it was charging all the time. (even when not plugged in)
Now amps should be fine. Its the volts that you have to worry about. I posed a thread about batteries that talks about amps volts and how to look after your device... take a look
LINK:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505165&highlight=battery
check it out...
I have been using my Magnetic charging cable ( I pulled out of my Sony DK30 )
in my car for over a month with the Griffin PowerJolt Micro & have not had a
single issue with the phone or the charger . here are the specs & a pic of the charger .
Technical Specifications
Input: 12 volts DC
Output: 5 volts DC at 2.1 amps
Output power: 10 watts link to charger .
link to charger =
http://store.griffintechnology.com/ipad/powerjolt-micro-ipad
Yeah I think the generic no name chargers probably lack quality circuitry to regulate the charging properly. I'm hoping the Xperia Z Ultra has some decent built in charging protection to prevent issues with minor spikes or fluctuations. Brand name chargers like griffin should be ok.
Similarly, been using the magnetic cable with a griffin car adapter without any problems since I got my unit.
After i was struglin to charge my G3 through my pc i buy a traveler charger from ebay...its the same as the stock charger and said 1.8mA..i saw that my phone didnt charge as fast as my stock charger and still my wirless chargers couldnt charge my phone...but i saw another strange think...i bought a collored (w/ LED) usb cable to use it as a night light as long as with my stock charger on my bed....my phone charged as slow as i had connected into my pc usb 2.0!
So i test all my usb cables and saw an extremly diverse charging rate..
As you can see in my pics while using ampere all my other (ebay,old phones) usb cables couldn't pass the 350-400mA charging rate..while my stock LG cable could charge a bit more on the Traveler charger while with the stock charger it could get to 1.0A easily..
So whats wrong??Is usb cables equally different as the chargers???
Thanks and sorry about my horrible english!!!
pikachukaki said:
After i was struglin to charge my G3 through my pc i buy a traveler charger from ebay...its the same as the stock charger and said 1.8mA..i saw that my phone didnt charge as fast as my stock charger and still my wirless chargers couldnt charge my phone...but i saw another strange think...i bought a collored (w/ LED) usb cable to use it as a night light as long as with my stock charger on my bed....my phone charged as slow as i had connected into my pc usb 2.0!
So i test all my usb cables and saw an extremly diverse charging rate..
As you can see in my pics while using ampere all my other (ebay,old phones) usb cables couldn't pass the 350-400mA charging rate..while my stock LG cable could charge a bit more on the Traveler charger while with the stock charger it could get to 1.0A easily..
So whats wrong??Is usb cables equally different as the chargers???
Thanks and sorry about my horrible english!!!
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So, as far as I know, with all of the phones I have had, including the G3, charging my phone through a computer always have horrible charge rates compared to charging through a wall outlet. Though, when you say a "travel charger" in not sure if this is what you meant or if you meant some other form of charger.
From your post I've come to view your question as being "can different USB cables charge at different rates?" the answer is yes. Different usb cables will grant different charging rates depending on what battery type that USB cable was meant to charge.
One last thing though, I would love to know what app you use to find all that information!
6NomoN6 said:
So, as far as I know, with all of the phones I have had, including the G3, charging my phone through a computer always have horrible charge rates compared to charging through a wall outlet. Though, when you say a "travel charger" in not sure if this is what you meant or if you meant some other form of charger.
From your post I've come to view your question as being "can different USB cables charge at different rates?" the answer is yes. Different usb cables will grant different charging rates depending on what battery type that USB cable was meant to charge.
One last thing though, I would love to know what app you use to find all that information!
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So just to buy a funcy and funny usb cable with leds inside from ebay is just a waste of money...even with wall charger it can give to the phone max 600mA...
Anyway thanks...the app is Ampere!!!it give you the charge and discharge flow