Possible ICS modem issue for Rogers users - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Any other ICS users notice the I717UCLC5 modem baseband provides a weak signal? Downtown Winnipeg, usually 5 bars is down to 3-4... I cant hit 5 bars. My wifes Galaxy2 skyrocket using the recent design gears leak(ucalc4) has a constant 5 bars side by side... not sure what the heck. Could be an ATT/Rogers thing?

Were you able to get the ICS leak running on Rogers Galaxy Note?
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Don't go by bars, go into settings and look at the dBm level of the signals. -80 would be better then -90.

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I have never hit 3 bars

I live on long island and work all over and in the 2 weeks that I have owned the phone, rooted since day one using many different roms, and using 3 different radios i have never hit 3 bars of reception. Am I alone here? I have never had a problem with drop calls , reception, or data speeds. I was just wondering if anyone gets 3 bars of signal and dare i say even 4 full bars? Signal strength ranges from -93 to -72 dBm
I've seen three or four bars before, but it is VERY rare. Probably just a fluke.
I have hit 3 bars in some places before I started flashing different radios, however I have only flashed the latest radios and not the earlier ones.
im not rooted, i am unfortunately running the second leak. i live in NJ and as im texting i have 3 bars, since the flash ive had 3 to 4 really often, especially outside. i get 2 bars inside and 1 in my house, all depends on location i guess
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I used to have on average a good 3 bars, and 4 wasn't that rare, actually really common, 5 i could get for a couple minutes if i past by the tower lol.
Since I have rooted I have not once been over 2. I live in budunk nowhere south carolina, and I used to have really good reception until I rooted.
I can't say that my reception has been affected i am just not seeing a visual of more than 2 bars. I can't complain about the verizon service. Here on long island "cancer capital" there is a cell tower(disguised as a tree, flag pole etc.) on every corner. I have been with sprint, att , sprint all had the same quality service.
i hit 3 bars today on my rooted eris, while going from norfolk to virginia beach, va. out on i-264, 3 bars is very rare for me
4-5 was the norm on 1.5, now 1-2 is on 2.1leak2, but like others I haven't noticed any actual difference in service, just the number of bars.
y'know... now that you mentioned it, even though i never have as many bars as I used to, I have never been WITHOUT service where I used to have it, and I always have 3g in the same places as I used to have it...
is it possible that instead of the root/2.1 update lowering the signal, it just has a glitch in how it displays the connection information?
When my phone is just sitting, I tend to have two bars, but when I go to make a call, it jumps up to 3-4 bars.
I always thought that was odd, lol.
I live in the suburbs of Philadelphia, and I get 2 or 3 bars on 3g depending on where I am in my house. I also get 4 bars when I make a phone call no matter where I am in the house. I am rooted, and have noticed that Ever since I flashed the new Sprint radio 2.42.00.03.10 that I am getting MUCH better service, even the 3g is faster. If you are having reception issues, check your PRL version, I have 51827.
the only way to know for sure is if someone tracked the dbm while on 1.5 at a stationary position. went back with a rooted 2.1 leak2 phone and checked the signal again. also radio signals are affected by a lot of factors weather atmosphere changes etc... if you have 2 phones one of each kind side by side that would give the most accurate data.

Signal strength after ota ics update.

I'm not sure if its how ics reports the signal or what but my bars have went from full signal to 1 to 2 bars at most. Anyone else experience this?
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I've actually had an increase in signal changing to the gsm leak. On gb it would drop both cell and wifi connection. Now it drops maybe once a day instead of every half hour.
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It seems my signal is not as good either.
I'm curious, because I've seen this explanation before, but is the signal worse...or does it only appear to be worse...meaning are the bars now more accurate?
My house is not in a 4g area yet, my 3g speeds are horrid now after the update. I will say i cant see how when im in town and near a tower I am only showing 1 to 2 bars and my db is HIGH like 99-106.
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I can see one 4g and a 3g tower from my house and know there are 2 more within 5 miles and my signal appears to be lower also.
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You are not alone...I was wondering the same thing myself...signal went to crap after the update!
My signal is lower, but I think its because I never had as good of signal as gb said. Floating between 3-4 bars while on gb it was full at the same location.
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Mine is lower too. Theres been some talk about the radio in the newer leaks but I can't quite piece together what exactly is the deal.
Signal is the same. Ics just reports the signal differently. I forgot the article that explained it but if I can find it I'll link it
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Well, someone who got the OTA clicked "update later" after it was "pushed" to him and had been downloaded. He might have been a "soak tester", I don't know. But anyways, after he downloaded and chose the "update later" option, he then proceeded to find the file in his phone and uploaded it. You guys probably have heard of it on the "droid forums" but I'm one of the ones who downloaded it and applied the update via "update from SD card" and personally, my signal strength seems better. I was having issues with the 4g vanishing and turning from blue to white as various data driven apps would say "there appears to be no connection, please try again later". Well, I've only had this for just over 24 hours, but I've worked eight hours which is where I usually have the issue the most and didn't have one single time at work last night. Just sharing my story..... (as it is for the moment at least) lol
Definitely an improvement, before my 4g was dropping out constantly. Now it's stable with only 3 bars who cares I still get fast LTE speeds.
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I believe that this should sum it up. Was on the Nexus forum but i feel it should still apply.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/25921-this-is-why-your-verizon-nexus-signal-sucks/
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Thanks for the link...great read and seems to explain away the issue I thought I was having.
This rings very similar to the Verizon Galaxy Nexus.
ICS does use a different algorithm to measure signal strength. Personally, I feel there is something wrong with the driver set that the manufacturers are having a problem fixing. If I end up having the same issues on my Razr that I had on my Nexus I will be flashing it back to 2.3.6.
goinovr said:
This rings very similar to the Verizon Galaxy Nexus.
ICS does use a different algorithm to measure signal strength. Personally, I feel there is something wrong with the driver set that the manufacturers are having a problem fixing. If I end up having the same issues on my Razr that I had on my Nexus I will be flashing it back to 2.3.6.
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You're gonna go back to GB because the signal strength meter on ICS doesn't show the same amount of bars as GB?
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You're gonna go back to GB because the signal strength meter on ICS doesn't show the same amount of bars as GB?
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I don't care about the signal bars since they have no real meaning. I had little to no service on my Nexus and I live less than a mile away from a Verizon 4G LTE tower. Verizon kept saying it was just the signal bars showed differently and couldn't figure out that I actually had no service. What I am saying is that if with this ICS update comes the same set of connectivity problems that I had with the Nexus, I will flash back to GB.
I gave up on the Nexus because it had poor signal strength period. With the Maxx, signal strength has been very good for me with 2.3 and 4.04.
just lou said:
I gave up on the Nexus because it had poor signal strength period. With the Maxx, signal strength has been very good for me with 2.3 and 4.04.
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same here. My Razr has been great.
goinovr said:
... I will flash back to GB.
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Good luck with that...
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Radio change for better indoor reception?

I've kept my amaze stock and up to date with newest releases. Finally going to root and update rom to cm10. But I have noticed since I got this phone last year, my indoor reception at home, where I used to have 3-5 bars 4g now gets no signal or weak edge. I am sure tmobile didn't suddenly move an antenna on me farther from my house lol.. So I'm assuming the ics update changed something with the reception I am getting.
So... Is it a radio update that caused this? I tried looking on threads here but can't find the specific answer.
ICS signal is significantly worse than GB signal. I noticed that too, as did many others. It just is what it is.
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AT&T users running ARHD or TrickDroid: Any signal issues?

Apparently some people are having signal issues (i.e., dropping between HSPA and LTE where other AT&T phones are rock solid LTE) with the Developer Edition. HTC has said the Developer Edition may have signal issues since it is not "optimized" for AT&T. A few people have commented that ROMs based on the international HTC One may also have signal issues while running on the AT&T HTC One.
So for those of you running international roms such as Android Revolution or TrickDroid -- are you having any signal issues? Is signal strength as good as it was on stock AT&T ROM? Any trouble holding on to an LTE signal?
Thanks.
phositadc said:
Apparently some people are having signal issues (i.e., dropping between HSPA and LTE where other AT&T phones are rock solid LTE) with the Developer Edition. HTC has said the Developer Edition may have signal issues since it is not "optimized" for AT&T. A few people have commented that ROMs based on the international HTC One may also have signal issues while running on the AT&T HTC One.
So for those of you running international roms such as Android Revolution or TrickDroid -- are you having any signal issues? Is signal strength as good as it was on stock AT&T ROM? Any trouble holding on to an LTE signal?
Thanks.
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I wouldn't say that it's much an issue, but that the international roms show Att true signal strength. For example I have one bar of LTE in my house and my wife's iPhone 5 range from 2 or 3. My LTE speeds are almost double hers. The bars being shown whether on stock Att or international doesn't mean much. A good way to check signal strength would be to compare your db's.
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No issues here. DBM signal, speeds all awesome on the International Roms. AT&T likes to make you believe that your signal is better than it really is.
Signal bars are a lie.
I have -95db signal and decent LTE speed
gunnyman said:
Signal bars are a lie.
I have -95db signal and decent LTE speed
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Thanks to all for the feedback.
Just a note though, that some aren't complaining about the bars, but about actually dropping LTE connections where other AT&T phones do not.
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phositadc said:
Thanks to all for the feedback.
Just a note though, that some aren't complaining about the bars, but about actually dropping LTE connections where other AT&T phones do not.
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Yeah, that happens with me in my house sometime (if in my pocket etc) . Somewhere in one of these threads someone mentions how the international will drop connection at about -115db or something and Att drops around -125db. So that could be the reason.
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I flashed my One to the Maximus 7 Rom and have noticed lower bars than usual. I live near a cell phone tower and all phones that I have had as well as others on ATT always have full bars while I can't seem to get more than 2-3. Today my phone started switching between H and LTE and acting weird while driving and it has never done that before. I'm on the latest 1.29 radio firmware and it hasn't helped...not sure how to fix it and for those saying this is just the true reading of signal, I doubt I would be getting such low signals when Im literally about 3 blocks away from a cell tower.
darus214 said:
I flashed my One to the Maximus 7 Rom and have noticed lower bars than usual. I live near a cell phone tower and all phones that I have had as well as others on ATT always have full bars while I can't seem to get more than 2-3. Today my phone started switching between H and LTE and acting weird while driving and it has never done that before. I'm on the latest 1.29 radio firmware and it hasn't helped...not sure how to fix it and for those saying this is just the true reading of signal, I doubt I would be getting such low signals when Im literally about 3 blocks away from a cell tower.
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I did notice this too. I definitely have lower bars and lower speed as well....I have trickdroid 5.1 installed. I tried the ATT version before getting the dev version and I did not have this issue.
TrickDroid and ARHD both show true signal bars, but they will also switch to 3g from LTE sooner than the stock ATT load. they seem to switch at aound -120db where ATT will hold out until -130db. if you select att from the ARHD load, it hold on till about -125, still not the same but it works.
Like another person said, the stock ATT ROMs show a non real signal strength, where the Int'l ROMs do. It's all about your actual data speeds and the dB signal. I'm running ARHD 7.0 and have zero reception trouble. LTE speeds are fine.
Just replace /system/framework/ext.jar from an AT&T ROM and you'll get the "fake" AT&T signal icons...
Yup
phositadc said:
Apparently some people are having signal issues (i.e., dropping between HSPA and LTE where other AT&T phones are rock solid LTE) with the Developer Edition. HTC has said the Developer Edition may have signal issues since it is not "optimized" for AT&T. A few people have commented that ROMs based on the international HTC One may also have signal issues while running on the AT&T HTC One.
So for those of you running international roms such as Android Revolution or TrickDroid -- are you having any signal issues? Is signal strength as good as it was on stock AT&T ROM? Any trouble holding on to an LTE signal?
Thanks.
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My Co-worker cant keep the LTE signal for longer than 10 minutes.... and the phone gets hot as heck...is yours hot?
HTC One AT&T Variant TrickDroid 5.2.1 ROM with AT&T tweaks.
RSRP(dBm): -105 to -110 avg. RSRQ(dB): -10 to -12 avg.
No LTE troubles but I did notice during the ROM install before I picked AT&T as carrier it flaked out a few times saying something else besides LTE and H and kept going back and forth.
TrickDroid rom with AOSP icons are showing 1 to 2 bars. - At the bottom!! Whereas my stock rom was showing like 3-4 bars all of the time at the house.
SpeedTest with both roms at my house (not on wifi) = 15M down. 10-20 AVG. regardless of ROM.

HTC One - poor LTE reception

I very much wanted to love this phone. Having been an HTC user for the longest time, I begrudgingly switched to a Note 2 last year. Why "begrudgingly", you ask? I'm a bit superficial when it comes to my phones and I'm not a fan of the plastic bodies used by Samsung. The HTC One, as you know, has an amazing build quality and, when you hold the phone, you get a sense of the premium materials used in its construction. The screen clarity is tops and the speakers sound quite good. I love nearly everything about this phone but I just ordered a plastic-laden Galaxy S4, due to issues with LTE reception one the One. Upon purchase, I noticed right away that this phone shows 1-2 fewer bars of LTE signal, everywhere, when compared to my Note 2. I figured it was just the graphical representation of signal strength that was off but then I noticed that the One spent far more time on HSPA than the note 2. Using G Net Track, I observed RSSI readings ~20dBm lower than my Note 2. These observations were made over time, with the phone stationary on my desk. The signal strength indicator and the RSSI readings confirmed that the HTC One I purchased suffers from poor LTE reception. I'm quite irritated that HTC missed with this device; I was very much hoping they would hit a home run with the One.
Has anyone else noticed LTE reception problems with their phone?
I have amazing 4g coverage I'm on tmobile I came from Verizon I am currently in south fl might be your area ? This might be a stretch but it feels like I have better 4g coverage on tmobile or it could just be that I love the phone
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SurrealNetworks said:
I very much wanted to love this phone. Having been an HTC user for the longest time, I begrudgingly switched to a Note 2 last year. Why "begrudgingly", you ask? I'm a bit superficial when it comes to my phones and I'm not a fan of the plastic bodies used by Samsung. The HTC One, as you know, has an amazing build quality and, when you hold the phone, you get a sense of the premium materials used in its construction. The screen clarity is tops and the speakers sound quite good. I love nearly everything about this phone but I just ordered a plastic-laden Galaxy S4, due to issues with LTE reception one the One. Upon purchase, I noticed right away that this phone shows 1-2 fewer bars of LTE signal, everywhere, when compared to my Note 2. I figured it was just the graphical representation of signal strength that was off but then I noticed that the One spent far more time on HSPA than the note 2. Using G Net Track, I observed RSSI readings ~20dBm lower than my Note 2. These observations were made over time, with the phone stationary on my desk. The signal strength indicator and the RSSI readings confirmed that the HTC One I purchased suffers from poor LTE reception. I'm quite irritated that HTC missed with this device; I was very much hoping they would hit a home run with the One.
Has anyone else noticed LTE reception problems with their phone?
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I have One, Nexus 4, iPhone 5, they all have the exact signal level at any given location. Unless you're blocking the antenna causing attenuation.
Also, you should be monitoring RSRP and RSRQ. Not RSSI if you're on LTE. Get SignalCheck Pro and do some testing.
When I moved I stopped in Kansas City (one of T-Mobile's LTE markets) and I had no problems with LTE reception.
Even with 2 bars on LTE. My speed is excellent.
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trashcan said:
Even with 2 bars on LTE. My speed is excellent.
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Have you ever seen full LTE signal on your One? In areas where my Note 2 had four bars, my One has only two. Maybe I just received a lemon and an exchange will remedy the issue.
soulr1985 said:
I have amazing 4g coverage I'm on tmobile I came from Verizon I am currently in south fl might be your area ? This might be a stretch but it feels like I have better 4g coverage on tmobile or it could just be that I love the phone
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The HSPA+ signal strength of my One appears to be equal to that of my Note 2.
I get full LTE bars in Santa Clara, CA
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I get full bars in Vegas when in the lte areas
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I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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rschauby said:
I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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That's pretty much what I'm experiencing. I have a Galaxy S4 arriving tomorrow - I'll be sure to take networks measurements on both devices to compare performance of the two.
rschauby said:
I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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Same market, same signal as you. I think it's our coverage area though as I watch signal when I'm driving around the valley a lot and it def hits 4 or 5 bars of lte....but only right up against the towers....regardless I get great speeds though
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I'm also in kansas City and my note 2 was picking far better lte I'd say than the One.
If when mine arrives here in Taipei it shows lower bars I will take it in personally to their HTC office here in Taipei and ***** about it. Will try same SIM card in different smartphones to show differences If needed but will need to test first.
I don't quite understand what standard is to be expected. Is anything less of 30mb down on a cell phone really that unacceptable? I suppose it's reasonable if you're using hotspot for a laptop, but are we just talking about apps downloading data?
It might be that HTC didn't do well with function over form with the One in terms of signal reception. But I guess this may be the sacrifice you'll have to make.
Have you guys run speed tests rather than judging by signal bars alone? I've found that although my One displays two bars at my gym for "4g", I get completely crap signal, and can barely send out a Google voice text.. I've yet to run a speed test to see what exactly I'm getting in terms of d/u speeds.
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I have just received my HTC One yesterday. LTE is limited where I am, but when I have reached an area where LTE was available, I had full bars on mine. This was in Cupertino, CA.
nexicon said:
I'm also in kansas City and my note 2 was picking far better lte I'd say than the One.
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That was my experience, going from a Note 2 to the One. I returned the One and picked up an S4 - much better LTE service. I did a side by side evaluation of LTE performance on the One vs the S4. Using the Speedtest.net app, I was consistently pulling 13Mbps using the One. I placed my SIM card into the S4 and consistently pulled 23Mbps. I switched the SIM back to the One and couldn't break 14Mbps. Yes, I selected the same server on both phones. Sadly, the One appears to have LTE issues.
I will be just happy when LTE actually goes live in my city. My HSPA+ speeds are really good. I just did a speedtest and go 18Mbps on my One and 13Mbps on my S4.
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That was my experience, going from a Note 2 to the One. I returned the One and picked up an S4 - much better LTE service. I did a side by side evaluation of LTE performance on the One vs the S4. Using the Speedtest.net app, I was consistently pulling 13Mbps using the One. I placed my SIM card into the S4 and consistently pulled 23Mbps. I switched the SIM back to the One and couldn't break 14Mbps. Yes, I selected the same server on both phones. Sadly, the One appears to have LTE issues.
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I'm assuming you are using a T-Mobile One, not a different one like the dev edition, and are on T-Mobile LTE?
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I'm assuming you are using a T-Mobile One, not a different one like the dev edition, and are on T-Mobile LTE?
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That is correct. Both phones were displaying "4g LTE" during the tests.

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