Hi there. Long time listener, first time (Android) poster here (and previously infrequent Windows Mobile poster).
I'm in Australia and ordered a Galaxy S2 from the UK, which I love. But the last couple of days I've noticed MASSIVE unintended 3G data use. I only have a 1GB limit and I was going along merrily for the last week. Then yesterday all of a sudden in one day I'd used around 300MB. So I did some tweaking, installed 3G Watchdog and this morning I'd used another 400MB!! The reason I installed 3G Watchdog is because it can tell me my data usage by app, and it turns out (according to 3GW) that the offender is AP Mobile, which had received 339.1MB this morning! So I'm just wondering if I could get some help with this.
AP Mobile as I understand it is purely an RSS type widget. Doesn't seem to be an app anywhere for it, and when you go into the widget, there are only like 2 configurable settings. Can't even choose which feeds it gets, from what I could tell. I had looked at it initially and set the refresh to 3 hours, but later removed the widget. It must have kept updating though (but even so,for a mobile device seems like a massive amount of data still!). I didn't realise this, but have now set the refresh to 'none'. I hope this works! Does anyone know much about it?
OK, so my questions really are:
1. Does anyone know how I can make sure this never accesses data again? I use Juice Defender but it doesn't even appear in the list of configurable apps (though things like the BBC iPlayer do). Perhaps because it's only a widget? Is there another app that might help me do this?
2. Ages ago I used Android Assistant to kill the APM process on startup since I wasn't using it. But it must still auto start itself at times (perhaps this was connected to the update interval, which is now set to 'none'). Is there an app that could persistently disable this (and other) service(s) without rooting?
3. Which leads to my third question. I'm assuming the only way to uninstall this (since it came as part of the original ROM) is to root my GS2? I saw the thread on rooting a GS2 but I'm not sure about all the terms, like which specific firmware I have and which kernal to install after rooting. I'm more than happy to root it but had a bit of trouble working out what it all meant. If I was to root it, is it simple to uninstall original firmware apps or is the only way to install a custom ROM?
EDIT: Ok, I think I have a handle on rooting my device now, my apologies for not researching thoroughly enough. I think I know which firmware, kernel etc. I have so it's just a matter of doing it now. And then I can use Titanium backup to uninstall stock Samsung apps? Is this the best/only way to do this?
4. I'm generally happy with the device as is so I don't necessarily (yet) want to install custom ROMs. If I only root it, without installing a new ROM, will I still be able to install Kies updates as and when they appear? And does that unroot it?
Sorry for all the questions! And I'm so sorry too since I know most of this is completely n00b stuff to you all. This is my first Android phone so still learning the ropes. And if I should have posted elsewhere please reprimand me accordingly. I did search before posting, but being a new platform, I don't have a framework yet for knowing the right search terms exactly.
I am having the same problem. I am also in Australia.
Is there a non root solution?
I use Quick Settings Mobile Data APN off unless i want it on .
jje
After my initial ramblings, I ended up rooting my phone and removing the app entirely using Titanium backup. It was easy and painless and only took like 5 minutes. I assume it's worked for my data consumption, but haven't been able to test on 3G yet because I went over my limit for the month (thanks to APM) so have shut down mobile data until my next billing cycle. Doesn't seem to be anything like the data consumption over wifi though, so far. I still don't know though whether by rooting, if i load the next update through Kies (whenever it is released) I lose root or not, but so far the benefits far outweigh the inconvenience.
Without rooting, you can in the app set the update frequency to 'none' (one of the 2 settings it has!) but I didn't test whether this actually stops it or not, before I uninstalled it.
I too have the same problem with the AP Mobile App/Widget. At first when I got my SGS2 I used the widget as it looked pretty nice, but I soon stopped using it as it is almost entirely exclusively US news - pretty lazy of Samsung considering this is a UK version... you would think they could have got AP to configure it to EURO market or work with someone else such as the BBC instead. Anyway, the first time I noticed it was a CPU hog was when I noticed that in the space of my morning alarm, and me getting up (an hour, in which I took the phone off charging) the battery had gone down about 30%! In that hour I had not been using the phone at all! I checked the battery usage and it was clear what was responsible.... the AP Mobile app was using about 50% (can't remember exactly now) of the whole battery - more than the display and everything else! I force stopped it, and reported it, but still can't believe how much this can hog cpu/drain battery/data without even being used!!! Remember, this is without using the widget anymore, or ever checking the app! Today, I had my phone in my pocket (and inside a pouch) and all of a sudden I noticed it was really hot! To notice a unused phone, inside my jeans pocket, inside a pouch was really hot shows just how much the cpu must have been going crazy! When I took it out of my pocket the whole phone (including the screen) was very hot... something I've noticed a few times before when under intensive use (flash video streaming/1080p video taking/taking a call whilst charging) but for it to get like this whilst it shouldn't even be doing anything is crazy! Sure enough, when I checked the battery usage, AP was the guilty party! See attached screenshot from today as an example - notice the battery go off a cliff (over say half an hour, presumable whilst AP did it's thang) before I force stopped it! I should note this has happened over different firmware versions, so it's very much an app issue.
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After reading this post I have set the frequency to 'none' and hope that fixes this issue, but a widget really shouldn't be acting like this when not in use. I would be interested to hear if anyone else spots this in their battery usage - if so please post a screenshot also!
Samsung/AP please fix!
BTW, You will see that Wifi Sharing was draining the battery also... again without me using it. Could AP be activating it?
I am having exactly the same issue.
I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and live in the UK so I too found the AP Mobile app a waste of space so I removed it.
A week into my monthly data quota being refreshed O2 txted me telling me I had used 80% of my 500Mb data - which was bizarre since I use my phone mainly on wifi and not for downloading large files. Even more bizarrely ONE HOUR later I got another txt telling me ALL my data had been used - and I had done absolutely nothing. In fact I even closed down the widgets I thought were consuming data.
I didn't realise it was APM at the time - however a few days ago I woke up and noticed my battery level abnormally low. I checked the usage and it had AP Mobile As the culprit - even though I had removed the widget weeks earlier! It was right at the top of battery usage, even above Display and Android OS
There is something seriously wrong with the AP Mobile App on Galaxy S2.
Based on another poster's above advice, I just added the widget again, went to SETTINGS for it and set the update frequency to NONE (it had been on hourly before I last removed it), and then I removed the widget again. I will keep an eye on my phone.
Really annoyed that Samsung Galaxy S2 auto starts this app even after you kill it AND especially after you removed the widget too!
Looks like I am going to have to root my phone if this don't work!
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I am having exactly the same issue.
I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and live in the UK so I too found the AP Mobile app a waste of space so I removed it.
A week into my monthly data quota being refreshed O2 txted me telling me I had used 80% of my 500Mb data - which was bizarre since I use my phone mainly on wifi and not for downloading large files. Even more bizarrely ONE HOUR later I got another txt telling me ALL my data had been used - and I had done absolutely nothing. In fact I even closed down the widgets I thought were consuming data.
I didn't realise it was APM at the time - however a few days ago I woke up and noticed my battery level abnormally low. I checked the usage and it had AP Mobile As the culprit - even though I had removed the widget weeks earlier! It was right at the top of battery usage, even above Display and Android OS
There is something seriously wrong with the AP Mobile App on Galaxy S2.
Based on another poster's above advice, I just added the widget again, went to SETTINGS for it and set the update frequency to NONE (it had been on hourly before I last removed it), and then I removed the widget again. I will keep an eye on my phone.
Really annoyed that Samsung Galaxy S2 auto starts this app even after you kill it AND especially after you removed the widget too!
Looks like I am going to have to root my phone if this don't work!
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Same problem here with AP mobile. AP mobile is a badly written App. It drains battery like crazy, so I ended up removing it. There are better news feeder on the market, so it's not a big deal to just delete it.
iamthecosmos was right.
Adding the AP Widget again, then setting the update frequency to none before removing it again works just fine
Thanks!
AnthonyDeSouza said:
iamthecosmos was right.
Adding the AP Widget again, then setting the update frequency to none before removing it again works just fine
Thanks!
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Same problem here, UK based. Wake up Samsung.
How did you add the widget again please? New to the phone.
TIA Dave
I had the same problem, I've had the phone for about 5 months now,but last night I'd notice it heating up and using ridiculous amount of battery, I just ignored this, switch off then switch on. This afternoon I noticed 3g Watchdog say I was nearing my data limit, Netquin confirmed this, check the usage, was APM! used up 1.1 gig of my monthly 1.5 gig quota! I'd never used the widget before now and as nice as it looks was pointless with me being UK based and the app more US stories.
I'm hoping putting the refresh to 'never' does help, but after reading this thread and going to check that, it was already on 'never'!
Still, I now have 26 days of non data usage thanks to that widget
Something is seriously wrong with you guys' phones. I have AP mobile refresh every hour and it only use about 350 MB per month.
Also Associated Press (AP) is american, so obviously you are going to get mostly american news.
I am on Stock 2.3.5 and its rooted. Installed the free version of titanium backup and i m unable to delete the application. The AP Mobile is not even on my widgets. The frequency is set to None. Still when i see 3G Watchdog, the maximum utilization is of AP Mobile. My ISP is screwing me with long big bills. Thanks to 3G watchdog, at least i know the culprit now.
Pls help how to delete this crap application.
Open up titanium. At the top hit 'backup/restore' and you should see it there. Click on it and you should have an uninstall option.
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Open up titanium. At the top hit 'backup/restore' and you should see it there. Click on it and you should have an uninstall option.
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Yes, when I do that, it gives me option. "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)". When i select this, it says blah blah and your phone will reboot twice.
But in the first reboot only, the phone goes to 3e recovery. The msg is, could not install the AP mobile (and gives the path to apk).
then I do reboot phone and nothing.. AP Mobile is still there..
ginloin said:
4. I'm generally happy with the device as is so I don't necessarily (yet) want to install custom ROMs. If I only root it, without installing a new ROM, will I still be able to install Kies updates as and when they appear? And does that unroot it?
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Updating through Kies does remove root access, but you can just re-root it straight away.
Hi All,
I'm a noob here, so please correct me on things which I may state incorrectly. I'm no expert on the Android OS or Samsung devices (first time user of the OS and phone manufacturer), but I too am experiencing the same problems everyone else is having.
I have tried countless methods mentioned on multiple forums to reduce the high data usage, but many only suggest data monitoring.
AP Mobile is definitely a culprit, but there are many other processes in the background which are continuously syncing to somewhere without our knowledge. I had performed all that was suggested (disable all forms of background syncing, deleted AP Mobile, etc. and data usage was still very high)
Recently, I came across two apps which has helped me better control my data usage.
I will give a little review of what I found useful, and what I found I disliked about the two apps:
1) NetQin Security
This app provides multiple functions, acting as an Anti Virus, Optimization of the device by closed all programs and freeing up RAM, and mostly importantly, Network Manager.
The Network Manager allows for Daily and Monthly Traffic views and you will be able to view the processes connecting to the Internet.
Great thing is, you can also view data usage per app.
There is also a Firewall feature, which will allow you control data traffic for individual apps for both WiFi and 2G/3G connectivity.
If the phone is rooted, there is a setting which can be enabled, called "Disconnect at limit", which is self explanatory
One thing I don't like as much as the next app I will mention, is that it doesn't offer as many apps to manage in the Firewall list.
2) DroidWall
This app is only a firewall. Allows users to control the data that passes through their phone, and has more controllable apps.
Things I dislike, it is doesn't offer a network monitor, or an option to Disconnect on Limit
Both apps are available from the Android Market.
Please be aware that both these apps will need root access.
I know this doesn't completely resolve the high data usage issue, but will help reduce the high data usage.
Please let us know if someone does find a solution to this issue.
Exactly the same ...
Hi,
last month ( November) I had a data usage of 3.6 GB :O ... cost me £20 . And I'd been using Facebook a lot more than normal + emails, however this month, 15 days into the billing period I've used over 1GB of data , costing me £11. I downloaded my data manager and realised it was AP, however I'd already tried that widget in the past, and already set it's update frequency to 'None', but it did nothing!!
Sooooo, I guess the only solution is root and delete :/ Urgh... wanted to wait more than 2 months of having the phone before rooting... ah well!!
just root and uninstall it.
same issue here
Hi, sporadically I had the same issue too. Sometime 100Mb, other time 250Mb, I could not understand what was taking so much data, heating up the phone and draining the battery. Instead of going straight back to the shop, where generally you find [email protected]@Kwits that understand zero about this sort of problems, I decided to study the issue a little bit by myself. And installed data traffic programs to check what was going on. Initially I thought google+ was doing it but AP mobile came out to be the first cause.
I ask myself the following questions:
-what is the point in installing a program only for american news on phones that are sold in europe....mistery...
-there are obviously many cases related t this [email protected]@ked up program that samsung insists on installing, as the first posts related to this came out in april/may 2011, so nearly 8 months ago and with the new releases of firmware nothing has been done.
-get your functional tests right guys in samsung!!! how long do you test your [email protected]@t before handing it over to volume manufacturing??
So, at the end, I rooted the phone and uninstalled this crap. Big plause to samsung for this totally (useless) crap and for wasting money and time of it customers!!!!
I have the same problem intermittently. Fortunately I am on an unlimited data tariff, but yesterday my phone used ~350mb and drained the battery in a few hours. Battery and data use statistics showed that AP mobile used nearly 30% of the battery, despite the fact that I had not run it and do not have the widget installed!
I used the "My Samsung" UK site to contact tech support to ask about the issue. The response I got was:
"Thank you for contacting Samsung.
Can you please go menu>settings>accounts and sync and turn off automatic
sync
If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again and
we will be more than happy to help."
Useful. It's not like I want to get my e-mails/calendar events/twitter feeds/facebook updates/BBC news updates...
Hi guys. I picked up a Sony Xperia SX (It comes with Android 4.0.4) a week ago and have been happy with it except for the battery life; it's not quite as good as my old Nexus One.
I've been looking at the battery usage stats and things seem ok except for "Android System." This collection of tasks takes up a LOT of battery and I have no idea why. Does anyone know?
I've turned off all my Google Account syncing and removed some of the pre-installed bloatware (for example, McAfee AntiVirus, but for some reason this still appears under Android System - does that mean it's not uninstalled? If so, is there some way to get into the system and actually remove this process?). The screenshots below are for a full days worth of very light usage: a few text messages, browsed one web page for a few minutes, and a very short phone call.
Are there any apps I can install that track battery/CPU/activity usage per process so I can zero in on what is keeping the device awake so much?
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!
Edit: The attachments don't seem to be showing up, so here are some direct links:
Friendly evening bump.
Android system
try changing your kernnel
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try changing your kernnel
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Unless someone's made a build for this device, I have no idea how to do that. :\
I have the same phone and same problem.
Have you rooted it?
If so you can use a root uninstaller to get rid of the bloatware
I installed juice defender yesterday and there seems to be a slight improvement.
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Since I changed to JB my battery is being drained by google services. I've tried turning off location services, all of google now, and everything that is using google to sync except for mail. I haven't found a solution anywhere online. I've also deleted my exchange and other mail accounts and I still have the problem.
I'm using MeanBean 2.3 and it also did the same thing on MB 1.4.
Any ideas?
drdamond said:
Since I changed to JB my battery is being drained by google services. I've tried turning off location services, all of google now, and everything that is using google to sync except for mail. I haven't found a solution anywhere online. I've also deleted my exchange and other mail accounts and I still have the problem.
I'm using MeanBean 2.3 and it also did the same thing on MB 1.4.
Any ideas?
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I am also seeing this and sometimes Maps or Poynt do the same thing as well. If I look in my power history it will show GPS ON as a full blue line. I also see a solid blue line in the wake portion sometimes when the phone has been sleeping. Both issues will cause the battery to drain very quickly. If I don't catch them in time, my battery won't make it all day. If I go a day without seeing these, the battery lasts all day with plenty to spare. A quick reboot fixes them but I never had these issues before Jelly Bean. My wife has an EVO LTE too and sees these issues as well. Anyone know what is causing these issues? Neither of us have turned on Google Now yet fearing that will make it worse.
Did you do a factory reset after the upgrade to jelly bean? Many reported that helping.
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Did you do a factory reset after the upgrade to jelly bean? Many reported that helping.
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No, but my wife just got hers and I updated to Jelly Bean before installing or setting up the phone. Guess I will try factory reset after installing Jelly Bean. Thanks for the help!
I did super wipe (factory reset) last night with clean install and today I'm not having issues yet
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It didn't work. Google services turned on again and keeps my phone awake and is draining the battery. Does anyone else have an exchange account? I just deleted mine to see if that might help.
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In case anyone ever comes upon this thread and wants an answer, I think the problem is with exchange. I made it manual DL and the Google services stayed on but didn't drain the battery. Reset, location, and other changes didn't seem to help.
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Maybe exchange cuz I don't have the issue...its not even on the history
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In case anyone ever comes upon this thread and wants an answer, I think the problem is with exchange. I made it manual DL and the Google services stayed on but didn't drain the battery. Reset, location, and other changes didn't seem to help.
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I am having the same problem, but I don't have exchange. Just got my phone a week ago, not rooted, completely stock. Today was the first day that the battery abnormally drained, with google services using 50%. Not sure what changed or what happened. Trying to do some research into this as there seems to be a lot of questions out there, but haven't found any answers yet.
chopstxnrice said:
I am having the same problem, but I don't have exchange. Just got my phone a week ago, not rooted, completely stock. Today was the first day that the battery abnormally drained, with google services using 50%. Not sure what changed or what happened. Trying to do some research into this as there seems to be a lot of questions out there, but haven't found any answers yet.
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I am having this problem every so often also. The phone stays awake 100% of the time due to the google services. I kill it a couple times and usually it stops for awhile. Very annoying, still looking for a fix.
-Matt
The best way to figure out what is draining your battery is to install Better Battery Stats from the play store. Let it run in the background for a day or two and then check out partial wake locks and alarms. See if there is an app or process that is running out of control. Check all of your settings for syncing gmail, chrome, news and weather, etc. If you can't find some app that is keeping your device awake when it should be resting, then it could just be the phone.
Is there any REAL solution for this issue?
"Google Services" keeps my phone awake 100% of the time sometimes and I get maybe 4 hours of bat till completely dead. I've tried turning off sync, gps, mail, etx still does it. I think it really the Play Store but I cant be sure.
Bountyhunter1000 said:
Is there any REAL solution for this issue?
"Google Services" keeps my phone awake 100% of the time sometimes and I get maybe 4 hours of bat till completely dead. I've tried turning off sync, gps, mail, etx still does it. I think it really the Play Store but I cant be sure.
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Turn off Autosync then turn it on again and force a full sync, then reboot, I've read somewhere I think in the sense 5 port thread about something like this and I think scottspa or Finz posted this as a solution, try it and let us know...
I've been having hella issues with this recently. Some of the fixes out there work some of the time. Best one I've found is to sign out of Google EVERYTHING, wipe caches, reboot, then resign in. Even sometimes that won't release the wakelock. Yesterday for instance I had to do that, then take it a step further and delete my data from everything with the word Google on it and do 2 reboots before it would go the hell away.
disable
I disable mine.
Use titanium backup. Make the services and play store user apps. Then use greenify on them.
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jocarog said:
Turn off Autosync then turn it on again and force a full sync, then reboot, I've read somewhere I think in the sense 5 port thread about something like this and I think scottspa or Finz posted this as a solution, try it and let us know...
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I am running MeanBean with latest firmware. I had this issue yesterday and I tried your fix. So far today, google services has only used 2%. I am curious to see if it stays that way or if the issue will come back.
Thanks
clearing cache and delvik cache seems to work for a little while that it just starts again ok. I only staredt having this issue about 2 weeks ago. That's why I think its the Play Store cause that's when the Play Store updated. Also rebooting seems to relieve the situation temporarily. Its just a pain in you don't look at your phone for a few hours notice 75 percent of your battery is gone.
I had the Google services drain too. I was looking high and low for the cause. Finally solved mine by going to Quick Event app, clicked setting icon (top right), set both Default Reminder and Default Duration to none.. That solved my problem.
So I did a few things and have not had a problem in a week(ish) now. I cleared cache and dalvik cache. I also forced a sync then turned off sync tried to sync again then turned it back on.
I have not had a problem since. In fact I left this phone sitting all weekend from sat morning to this morning and it only used 22% battery. (there was NO use by me)
Just incase anybody is wondering I am on the latest Mean Bean with over clocking and over volt.
Anyone else pixels getting very warm when just basic using the phone ? No gaming , no camera.
I'm using WiFi and just checking fb , chrome etc.
Phone is constantly warm
Not here. Constant warmth is a sign that something is using processing power all the time. Usually this is a app that has gotten messed up. You can try uninstalling and reinstalling all your apps, or do a factory reset/wipe. The factory reset/wipe is more likely to fix the problem, but it will also delete all of your apps and data (text history, etc) so make sure you backup anything you want to restore.
Running in safe mode is good way to test the rogue app theory.
If you just received the P6. Give it a few days.
When I first started using my P6. It was extremely hot for about two days. It was so hot that it scared me into thinking it was going to be toast soon.
But for some reason it went away.
There were quite a few other people back in October that also had the same issue when it was new.
Try a search in the P6 threads to read about it.
No such issue, even on first day of usage. Only warm came from 4K video on 60 fps for 10 minutes. But there's already a topic for this problem.
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Not here. Constant warmth is a sign that something is using processing power all the time. Usually this is a app that has gotten messed up. You can try uninstalling and reinstalling all your apps, or do a factory reset/wipe. The factory reset/wipe is more likely to fix the problem, but it will also delete all of your apps and data (text history, etc) so make sure you backup anything you want to restore.
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Too many apps to do that! I'll try safe mode
I don't have such problems on mine. Usually it is misbehaving app causing this. You can check battery stats in settings and see if there is app using too much battery to identify the problem.
Has anyone tried this Suduko game which works well on my Pixel 3.
But it now makes Pixel 6 very hot.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
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