Its just impossible to brick two phones one after another just by using ODIN and official ROM, I have flashed my Galaxy S and my brothers Galaxy S many many many times without issues. Is it possible that many Galaxy ACE are just broken ?
mine was bricked too.
but i dont think because of hadware defect or anything. its because of me.
from the day i bought it, it was heavily abused by me, flashing almost all day. because i'm also developing kernel, that also means i had to reflash countless of time after recompile.
lastly after almost a year got abused like that it decided to bricked on its own.
point is, bricking because hardware defect is rare. most cause of bricking is us, the user itself, not the phone.
broken ops?
history was that my sisters ACE got bricked by flashing (ODIN), samsung replaced motherboard and then i flashed it second time - all went fine, then my uncle saw my sisters modded rom - he saw performance boost and asked me to make his - so i used same identical files: ops, odin, rom from before ! so i can exclude broken OPS
This cant be lottery, its something BROKEN inside phone...
Raider0001 said:
history was that my sisters ACE got bricked by flashing (ODIN), samsung replaced motherboard and then i flashed it second time - all went fine, then my uncle saw my sisters modded rom - he saw performance boost and asked me to make his - so i used same identical files: ops, odin, rom from before ! so i can exclude broken OPS
This cant be lottery, its something BROKEN inside phone...
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ROM's package might be incomplete or broken
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if something is broken in the fone, he cant even use him fone before flashing.
so u can exclude broken hardware
there could be a system partition that isn't used normally, and after time it gets data retention loss, when flashing it goes bizarre and destroys itself thats my idea i have no other it is a phones fault maybe not broken but really low quality in some cases - ask yourself: why samsung is replacing motherboards ? they have stuff to check any hardware issues and probably they could flash it directly to the memory...
there are many posts around forums that ACE cant connect to PC to show its SD card, from what i saw it have really slow internal memory much slower then my cheap Chinese tablet
Unsolder those (messy) bga memory/flash, jtag (dunno pin connection, under sim card maybe ?).
But faulty hw got you unlucky ones bcause modern electronic mfg employed six sigma with permillion opportunity with defect. Thats warranty usefull for, imho sent back to samsung are wise and economically efficient, than I mention above.
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The Reason i ask is either it is or i am the unluckiest person ever with a S2 lol
So far got the phone at xmas wasn't happy with the screen colours sent it off they said the main chip was faulty and had been replaced and a software upgrade etc...
Got it back and flashed a custom rom, well a few and noticed that i then had an issue where if someone called i had to put loudspeaker on in order to hear the other person...
Put phone back to stock and sent it off again...
Phone came back last week picked up monday used for a day all seemed fine, flashed a custom rom got another problem with the phone this time i have to put the loudspeaker on to hear other people they can hear me fine...
So its back to stock and back to vodafone tomorrow...
So can custom roms/kernels cause physical issue's with phones, never had an issue with my HTC Desire HD but i'm beginning to wonder if i should leave my next S2 stock, or have i just been unlucky ???
Would also add when going back to stock the screen colours seem much better than custom roms but the sounds issue's remain...
One word NO!
What rom are you flashing?
Checkrom, wickedrom, illusion Xt, not sure which if any has caused any issues could be I'm just unlucky
Definatly noticed issues with screen colours too which now in I'm back on stock have been sorted
Its all a bit weird
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Checkrom, wickedrom, illusion Xt, not sure which if any has caused any issues could be I'm just unlucky
Definatly noticed issues with screen colours too which now in I'm back on stock have been sorted
Its all a bit weird
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Trust me if that was the case damaging my phone by flashing a rom then my phone would of been damaged goods by the first month i had it
Anyway just be careful how you flash a rom and it is always advised to do a full wipe before installing one
Um, actually, yes.
You run the (slight) risk of bricking your phone every single time you flash something to it. If you're the type of person who's paranoid about these things & can't handle the idea of possibly not getting warranty service if things go wrong, you shouldn't be messing with your phone in the first place.
Anyone who has an expectation (as opposed to a "hope") of warranty service after they stuff around with the phone is an idiot.
The SG2 is a hard phone to brick. Follow the general guidelines and you should be fine. I can't imagine flashing a rom can break this phone. Worst that can happen is you brick it. Either it works or it doesn't.
Yeah Im fully aware that you risk bricking the phone
I've been flashing roms to HTC,s for years always trouble free
I always read and full wipe between flashes
Sounds like I've been unlucky then 3rd time phone is going back and since Xmas 1day without a fault not a great introduction to Samsung for me...
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In all my time reading SGS1 and 2 the only ones who have bricked their phone are the idiots (1) who refuse to read instructions . Even then 90% of them have been able to recover .
the SGS2 quota of 1 is getting higher day by day for some reason .
jje
Yeah 3 physical faults though in a month which is what got me thinking maybe installing the custom roms is causing an issue, but if others are installing with no issue's i've obviously just been unlucky
Hopefully this time i get it back its sorted...
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Yeah 3 physical faults though in a month which is what got me thinking maybe installing the custom roms is causing an issue, but if others are installing with no issue's i've obviously just been unlucky
Hopefully this time i get it back its sorted...
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~Don't accept a repair... DEMAND A NEW PHONE
Samsung doesnt change phones, only repairs.
GeorgeCm said:
Samsung doesnt change phones, only repairs.
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Who said Samsung??? I meant Vodafone, and they do give new phones
About a stock I don't know, and on aosp try it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385862
Suarez7 said:
Trust me if that was the case damaging my phone by flashing a rom then my phone would of been damaged goods by the first month i had it
Anyway just be careful how you flash a rom and it is always advised to do a full wipe before installing one
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Seconded..
It's possible to introduce some new bugs by flashing a custom ROM (that's the price of development, you uncover new weird stuff), but not to physically damage the phone. You'd have to fiddle with the battery or greatly increase the voltages to accomplish that.
If you experience hardware issues after flashing a ROM, it means that the hardware was faulty before, and flashing the ROM just uncovered it and made it obvious to you whereas it was hidden before.
But don't let it get you down. Apparently a lot of SGS2's are faulty when coming out of the factory and need to be replaced.
The first one I had didn't last the night, it 'overcooked' itself when I plugged it to the mains to get it recharged (I knew those phones could get pretty hot but damn ! a 100°C is too much for it, it didn't stand the strain and gave up)..
In fairness they suggested a new phone in Vodafone today so it's gone back with the the request of a new phone rather than repair so we'll see
Also if anyone is interested I obviously flashed a few custom roms and reset the counter to zero and installed original Vodafone software and have had no issues warranty wise
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In fairness they suggested a new phone in Vodafone today so it's gone back with the the request of a new phone rather than repair so we'll see
Also if anyone is interested I obviously flashed a few custom roms and reset the counter to zero and installed original Vodafone software and have had no issues warranty wise
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I seem to have been lucky with a Vodafone SGSII, I'd have insisted on a new phone from it's first problem, Vodafone have always been pretty good at replacing.
I am wondering however how did you manage to reset the flash counter ? Even with a USB Jig mine won't reset. It will go into download mode, but that's it. I presumed my six week old SGSII was a newer one a jig won't work on.
Before trying to reset the counter you should flash the old boot loader (pre-KI1) on, the new one cannot be reset safely with a jig. Works just fine after this
What Snakeforhire said i flashed the old bootloader reset the counter with the USB Jig then reflashed the new bootloader...
Updated through kies and sent back...
Hi!
Sorry for asking again - i had another thread about this subject before thinking this solution to my problem, I think the situation and the question is different, so that0s why I thought, opening a new thread was correct
What happened is that I was enjoying my SGSII with CM 10 and one day it just shut down
I only could enter download mode: When flashing with Odin, Odin would hung and the flashing process never would start.
Finally I tried to flash official 4.0.4 with the repartition option checked.
No download mode no more either....
Needless to say, I got a brick.
Now: Samsung refuses to repair it with the warranty and some online shop says they can repair just the memory module and not all the motherboard: I don't know if the motherboard was broken either.....
The thing is that I wish I knew if the MoBo was the problem before sending the device over to the online shop and getting it back not repaired again... having to pay for the delivery... perhaps for samsung it's easier to just replace all the inside instead of only one compound.... I don't know that....
How can I know if the problem is not the whole motherboard?
Thanks
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Hi!
Sorry for asking again - i had another thread about this subject before thinking this solution to my problem, I think the situation and the question is different, so that0s why I thought, opening a new thread was correct
What happened is that I was enjoying my SGSII with CM 10 and one day it just shut down
I only could enter download mode: When flashing with Odin, Odin would hung and the flashing process never would start.
Finally I tried to flash official 4.0.4 with the repartition option checked.
No download mode no more either....
Needless to say, I got a brick.
Now: Samsung refuses to repair it with the warranty and some online shop says they can repair just the memory module and not all the motherboard: I don't know if the motherboard was broken either.....
The thing is that I wish I knew if the MoBo was the problem before sending the device over to the online shop and getting it back not repaired again... having to pay for the delivery... perhaps for samsung it's easier to just replace all the inside instead of only one compound.... I don't know that....
How can I know if the problem is not the whole motherboard?
Thanks
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I had the same problem not caused by cm but just trying to ged rid of jellybean, no boot, no download, no recovery and not charging anymore
i tought i was screwed by odin because this caused the problem ( also ticked repartition ) brought it to a shop that actually repairs damaged screens and after a couple of days got my phone back with still everything on there wat was on my phone before i bricked it.
Had to pay € 45,- so to me next to nothing compared to bying a new phone.
Well, that's a relieve... I mean, if the Motherboard were broken, I wouldn't even get to download mode... it clearly looked like the fash memory failed.... I hope this guys are right and I can get my phone back..
I need to say Samsungś service sucks!!!! Despite of not being covered by warranty, they had my phone, and i quote "LOST" for almost two months....
I'll update as I get the phone repaired....
Thats why it diddent even cross my mind tpo bring it to a samsung service center, it probally takes a lot longer to get the job done and they would for sure replace the mobo and then say it was broken because i flashed it with a custom firmware, like that wil break the device, morons
So to make sure it was done fast and the proper way i took it to flexiphone and sved my selfe the trouble of getting a lot of bull**** an probally a
high amount of money to pay (because of a warranty void) for a repair that never needed to be done in the first place.
Hope your device has the same problem cause i was depressed missing my righthand, but went home with a smile from ear to ear.
OK, got the phone back, took it to a shop and they say it's not responding to JTAG.....
They will try something else, but it does not look well....
if it's not jtagable then mobo replacement is your only chance to see the little guy booting again.
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Ok, I've got a bricked MoBo....
How much would it be to get a new one? I guess it won't be less than 200 euro.... or perhaps new phone directly...
I guess It's goodbye..... farewell, SGSII.... :crying:
Mobo is about 150 - 200.
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GFXi0N said:
Ok, I've got a bricked MoBo....
How much would it be to get a new one? I guess it won't be less than 200 euro.... or perhaps new phone directly...
I guess It's goodbye..... farewell, SGSII.... :crying:
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Orange were selling S2 for about 240 €(or whatever equates to £200) 3 months ago.
Id sell your phone on ebay as you should get at least £100 clear, then that means you could get a brand new phone with warranty for £100 difference, or maybe a good bit less.
Nexus 4 it is!!!
So maybe the question from the title is a little bit unclear.
The problem that i had with my phone is that one day, i got a message that a new android version appeared(4.1.2)...and obviously i clicked to download it. After the download and install when it was time to enter in my new version, a screen where a password was required appeared, saying something that my phone is encrypted, and a pass is needed to make i work...Problem is that i didn't have a previous password...
So anyway i restarted the phone...and android didn't even brought me to that screen...it just wouldn't load...So i decided to take matters in my own hands (not the best decision i made that day)...
I searched online how to do that...i found about odin..installed it ...and then tried to install android...Problem is that odin gave me errors when trying to upload the kit or something (i was in download mode with the phone)..when odin gave errors i either disconected the cable from the phone, or in some cases i got pissed off and removed the battery...
My question is...could i have broken my phone permanently by doing that ? Like i don't know...in a way..that neither an expert could fix it?
Thanks
You can scramble the NAND so badly it has to be replaced if a flash goes bad/you flash something you shouldn't be flashing (or if you do dopey things like pull a USB cable in the middle of a flash), and the way that's done is by replacing the motherboard, so you can certainly cause damage that costs money to repair, but it can pretty much always be repaired one way or another.
I seriously doubt you could bork a phone completely beyond all repair via firmware/software & without physically damaging components.
No physical damage was made to the phone...
Assuming all the alien language things that you said ...so the worst case scenario...do you have any idea how much a new motherboard would cost?
Varies widely depending on country/how much labor costs in your country. Samsung don't sell new motherboards on their own, you can either pay an authorised service centre to put a new one in (most expensive option, you normally keep your existing IMEI), or you can get a 2nd hand board from a broken/'donor' phone (How much you'll pay for one again highly variable depending on how much someone wants for their busted phone, search eBay/Google) & either swap it into your phone yourself, or if you're not confident with that sort of thing pay a local mobile repair shop to swap the boards for you (least expensive option, your IMEI will change to that of the phone the board came from).
Edit - If what I said in my PP was 'alien', I'd suggest you shouldn't have been messing with your phone in the first place & should probably avoid same when you get it fixed as well.
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So maybe the question from the title is a little bit unclear.
The problem that i had with my phone is that one day, i got a message that a new android version appeared(4.1.2)...and obviously i clicked to download it. After the download and install when it was time to enter in my new version, a screen where a password was required appeared, saying something that my phone is encrypted, and a pass is needed to make i work...Problem is that i didn't have a previous password...
So anyway i restarted the phone...and android didn't even brought me to that screen...it just wouldn't load...So i decided to take matters in my own hands (not the best decision i made that day)...
I searched online how to do that...i found about odin..installed it ...and then tried to install android...Problem is that odin gave me errors when trying to upload the kit or something (i was in download mode with the phone)..when odin gave errors i either disconected the cable from the phone, or in some cases i got pissed off and removed the battery...
My question is...could i have broken my phone permanently by doing that ? Like i don't know...in a way..that neither an expert could fix it?
Thanks
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Long story short, Yes your device could be "Broken" in such a way that the only option is to replace the motherboard. You atleast tried reading and doing something, dude there are several thread regarding this matter try different strategies, try out your luck, ask questions, but don't get your hopes too high.
Sorry pal, I wish you the best of all the luck in this tiny planet of ours.
Edit : sorry I was too late, I actually started the reply almost after you posted it but I went away had a coffee then completed it.
Edit: lol to actually make a phone completely unrecoverable you might need a sledgehammer, no software related issue in the world can completely damage an electronic device(unless that software was related to triggering a nuke).
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Hello all... After reading some threads I felt like I needed to start my own to clarify some things...
I have a friend who has a Galaxy SII (I9100) and she had some trouble with it...
SHe mentioned that her phone started acting erratic, freezing and saying that she didnt have enough memory (she only had 10 apps downloaded after a restore) and suddenly the phone restarted and a message saying that encription had failed. since I'm the one who fixes phones at work (from blackberry to iphone) she asked me if I could fix it.
The phone had pretty much like 80% batt left so I did what every mortal with a bit of knowledge would do... READ! I searched and the solution was to flash it with a newer firmware. I got the latest from SAMMOBILE and proceeded... For the record, the phone could get into recovery but recovery was messed up saying that a bunch of files were corrupt. I tried wiping and it showed an error message, so I proceeded to put it in download mode and set ODIN. Everything was going great... phone was detected,.. the process started.. Halfway through Odin FAILED... I restarted the phone and it didnt do anything... (crapping my pants started then...)
I started reading again (remembering the famous SDS on s3) and in different forums said that possibly some s2 came with the sds flaw and that that might have been my case. however, I always try to get more opions...
I tried using a USB JIG (which worked beautifully in other s2's that I have fixed) to no luck... With the battery in, the phone gets warm around the camera, but the usb jig doesnt do a thing...
So, I'm torn in two... My friend says that she thinks that the USB port was not working properly (she forgot to mention that at first) and sometimes it would appear af it nothing was connected and she had to jiggle the conector. I'm taking the phone to a service center tomorrow to check the port, but that is a pricey thing here in Venezuela... My second option is to sell it for spare parts...
Can I hear your opinions? Is it really hard bricked? Is it SDS?
I don't know which firmware it was running, and my friend doesnt know... my best guess is 2.3 since it's the one it came with and she never updated...
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Hello all... After reading some threads I felt like I needed to start my own to clarify some things...
I have a friend who has a Galaxy SII (I9100) and she had some trouble with it...
SHe mentioned that her phone started acting erratic, freezing and saying that she didnt have enough memory (she only had 10 apps downloaded after a restore) and suddenly the phone restarted and a message saying that encription had failed. since I'm the one who fixes phones at work (from blackberry to iphone) she asked me if I could fix it.
The phone had pretty much like 80% batt left so I did what every mortal with a bit of knowledge would do... READ! I searched and the solution was to flash it with a newer firmware. I got the latest from SAMMOBILE and proceeded... For the record, the phone could get into recovery but recovery was messed up saying that a bunch of files were corrupt. I tried wiping and it showed an error message, so I proceeded to put it in download mode and set ODIN. Everything was going great... phone was detected,.. the process started.. Halfway through Odin FAILED... I restarted the phone and it didnt do anything... (crapping my pants started then...)
I started reading again (remembering the famous SDS on s3) and in different forums said that possibly some s2 came with the sds flaw and that that might have been my case. however, I always try to get more opions...
I tried using a USB JIG (which worked beautifully in other s2's that I have fixed) to no luck... With the battery in, the phone gets warm around the camera, but the usb jig doesnt do a thing...
So, I'm torn in two... My friend says that she thinks that the USB port was not working properly (she forgot to mention that at first) and sometimes it would appear af it nothing was connected and she had to jiggle the conector. I'm taking the phone to a service center tomorrow to check the port, but that is a pricey thing here in Venezuela... My second option is to sell it for spare parts...
Can I hear your opinions? Is it really hard bricked? Is it SDS?
I don't know which firmware it was running, and my friend doesnt know... my best guess is 2.3 since it's the one it came with and she never updated...
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Is she hot?
It seems that she was on 4.0.4, so yeah, bricked because of the wipes.
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ok... I assume it's bricked... but is it unbrickable?
Kinda...yeah; you'll need a mobo change.
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ok... I assume it's bricked... but is it unbrickable?
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Lol no, if it's because of the emmc brick bug then, maybe if you can still access recovery some repartition techniques might work but still don't get your hopes up, but if you have a faulty port then it will further worsen your situation.
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It all points to brick bug, never wipe on 4.0.4 (nor back up/restore).
She can claim warranty, samsung is to blame for this bug
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Well.. warranty will not work... the phone is like 2 years old and in our country this doesnt work for impored phones... it was not bought from a carrier.
Huguito's legacy, try an usb jig.
You've got nothing to lose.
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I have a USB jig which ha worked with another S2, S3, Note... but it is not working... I think I may have an issue with the USB connector... Any way, will try something tomorrow... and if it doesnt work, will sell it as spare... Thanks all for the comments...
Let me know how much would you like for it, was it made in Korea?
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Okay... initially i was on Custom Rom Jellybam based on Jellybean 4.2.1 with Siyah Kernel V5 sync.
I want to upgrade to Kitkat 4.4
so i downloaded all the required files , made nandroid backup , reboot the phone and started transferring all ROM files into internal SD card Sdcard0
I am doing all this is Linux Mint..
It started transferring and got stuck 33.2%
so i removed the cable and try it again and this time again it stucked again
and my phone reboots automatically ..
Samsung logo main screen shows and loading starts but after completing loading bar .. it Freezes there and i cannot boot into recovery either..
SO on searching on goggle for solutions .. it states that i have to flash kernel again through ODIN again in order to access recovery to do Factory Reset..
SO i did the same flashed siyah kernel v4.1.5
it shows its successfully flashed BUT on reboot it shows Yellow triangle and freezes there and i still cannot access recovery and it also freezes on battery charge animation
So i again try to flash using ODIN this time again with siyah kernel 6.b5
and still same problem ,, so pull out battery and leave for 5 minutes and again boot phone in download mode and flash again using odin siyah kernel 6.0b5 and upon Reboot PHONE does not Boot.. I was literally Shocked and i try to pull out battery .. put back in and Try to charge but it shows no animation nor it is going in download mode.
Please HELP ..
Suggest me some ways because 1 year before I've replaced the motherboard due to same problem caused by factory reset in stock ICS rom when There was Hard Brick problem in Stock ICS roms..but it was in warranty so there was no problem but this time its out of warranty..
I didn't do anything wrong and still it got HARD BRICKED and still not have a clue what went wrong ??
No booting at all = nothing anyone here can do = replace motherboard or get a new phone (JTAG also very unlikely to work).
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No booting at all = nothing anyone here can do = replace motherboard or get a new phone (JTAG also very unlikely to work).
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i know. this.. its TOO scary to hear this thing..
If anything is possible ?? Anything ??
i will give every info you needed..
And what exactly do you expect people here to suggest ? If the phone won't boot you can:-
*Try a jig (0.0000000001% chance of working, but try it if you like torturing yourself with false hope)
*Try a JTAG if the person who tries is prepared to do it on the basis of 'you only pay them if the JTAG is successful' (also 0.0000000001% chance of working, try this if you like torturing yourself with false hope even more)
*Replace the motherboard; 99.99% chance of successfully fixing the phone provided there's nothing else wrong hardware-wise
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And what exactly do you expect people here to suggest ? If the phone won't boot you can:-
*Try a jig (0.0000000001% chance of working, but try it if you like torturing yourself with false hope)
*Try a JTAG if the person who tries is prepared to do it on the basis of 'you only pay them if the JTAG is successful' (also 0.0000000001% chance of working, try this if you like torturing yourself with false hope even more)
*Replace the motherboard; 99.99% chance of successfully fixing the phone provided there's nothing else wrong hardware-wise
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i'll go to samsung care tomorrow but i am still wondering what happened wrong as i did nothing wrong at all then still how it hardbricked ??
... probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM. Did you try to flash an original Samsung firmware? Did you wipe data before starting the new ROM? Otherwise there is a big chance for a bootloop.
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... probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM. Did you try to flash an original Samsung firmware? Did you wipe data before starting the new ROM? Otherwise there is a big chance for a bootloop.
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the guide suggest to flash kernel so that i can wipe/data factory reset .. i tried that with odin but phone does not boot and freezes at Samsung logo when loading bar finishes... so i thought to flash stock ics rom but before doing that after flashing kernel again it reboot and hard bricked... and does not boot after all even in download mode..
So this happens after i flashed kernel 3rd time and i still have no clue why did it happened..
and customer care asks it would costs at least Rs.8,000 or $133 to replace a Motherboard.. which is too costly...
can anyone suggest me any other things.. ay alternatives ??
There are no other alternatives. Just because you refuse to accept reality doesn't make it anything less than reality.
And isn't it wonderful to see people still not reading threads & suggesting stuff that's impossible: 'probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM'. I mean, seriously ? The OP has already stated on multiple occasions that the phone will not boot. At all. How do you propose he flash 'a correct running rom' exactly ?
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There are no other alternatives. Just because you refuse to accept reality doesn't make it anything less than reality.
And isn't it wonderful to see people still not reading threads & suggesting stuff that's impossible: 'probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM'. I mean, seriously ? The OP has already stated on multiple occasions that the phone will not boot. At all. How do you propose he flash 'a correct running rom' exactly ?
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hahah... i know .. people are sometimes too lazy to read ..
I just need to know.. what's wrong happened so that it will not happen next time..
Honestly ? That's almost impossible to say. Best guesses based on what you've told us are you simply got a bad flash, which is a small possibility (maybe 1 in 10,000) with any given flash. Or, I've had a theory based on instances like this I've seen on here over the past two yrs which involves the connection between phone & PC being broken for a split second during the flash (possibly caused by less than reliable USB ports on the PC or something else intermittent on the PC side), but not long enough for the disconnection to 'register' on the PC-side like it normally does when an external device is disconnected (you get that exclamation sound & a notification that the device has been disconnected in your taskbar).
It doesn't sound like you did anything 'wrong', put it that way. So I'm not sure there's a whole lot you can do to avoid it in future. Unfortunately, that's the risk all of us take whenever we flash stuff to our phones; every single flash (even CWM ones) involves that small risk (due to the nature of the NAND; having a write abruptly interrupted partway through can 'scramble' it) and the only way you can mitigate that 100% is to not flash anything at all.
Well .. I've already seen several people claiming a 'hardbrick' while the phone was only stuck in a boot loop. Especially while flashing only boot.img / system.img (which the OP claimed) it's normally really hard to create a hardbrick. That was the reason to suggest to try to flash an original firmware.If instead the bootloader is messed up, there is not much to do ...
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Well .. I've already seen several people claiming a 'hardbrick' while the phone was only stuck in a boot loop. Especially while flashing only boot.img / system.img (which the OP claimed) it's normally really hard to create a hardbrick. That was the reason to suggest to try to flash an original firmware.If instead the bootloader is messed up, there is not much to do ...
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well I've got my s2 since past 1.7 years and nothing wrong has happened till date as I've flashed plenty of ROMS earlier.. its nothing new to me.. i am well known to these things..
i have exams from 1 month and s2 was creating problems such as freezes while scrolling in any application and automatic reboot from many time
i have no time to solve this during exams..
so i tried to solve this issue yesterday by upgrading to new ROM.. downloaded ROM files .. and ready to transfer to internal sd where copying stuck at 33% 2 times and at 2nd time from where main problem starts.. of freezing at bootscreen and then i trty to solve by flahsing new kernel thriugh ODIN where Hardbrick was TOTALLY UNEXPECTED.. as I've done this earlier time too but nothing happened wrong that time... i was literally surprised that it does not boot at all even i didn't done any mistakes at all & followed procedure.. even ODIN every time shows "Flash Successful"
i've attached screenshot of ODIN flashing.. so you can check for yourself..
May be there is a possibility of battery dying and phone cannot charge the battery ??
i've no spare battery to check .. so will go soon to care to check if its battery problem or not..
MistahBungle said:
Honestly ? That's almost impossible to say. Best guesses based on what you've told us are you simply got a bad flash, which is a small possibility (maybe 1 in 10,000) with any given flash. Or, I've had a theory based on instances like this I've seen on here over the past two yrs which involves the connection between phone & PC being broken for a split second during the flash (possibly caused by less than reliable USB ports on the PC or something else intermittent on the PC side), but not long enough for the disconnection to 'register' on the PC-side like it normally does when an external device is disconnected (you get that exclamation sound & a notification that the device has been disconnected in your taskbar).
It doesn't sound like you did anything 'wrong', put it that way. So I'm not sure there's a whole lot you can do to avoid it in future. Unfortunately, that's the risk all of us take whenever we flash stuff to our phones; every single flash (even CWM ones) involves that small risk (due to the nature of the NAND; having a write abruptly interrupted partway through can 'scramble' it) and the only way you can mitigate that 100% is to not flash anything at all.
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i totally understand what you wanted to say..
i now how to do these things.. i know the risks...
still don't know what happened wrong..
hey guys.. i just went to samsung care and they told me that PCB need to be replaced and it ill costs me INR 8,000 or $133.33 which is too expensive and i told them if any other thing can be done .. i see some videos in youtube stating DEAD or HARDBRCIKED S2 can be fixed by changing its POWER IC...
so i told them that thing then they told me that OFFICIALY only Motherbaord could be replaced however I can ask local reapir shops in my city whether they can replace POWER IC or any other such thing which will be cheap..
So i went to one of the Repair shop (MAIN one in my CITY) & i ask them .. after checking he said.. I'll check IF Repalcing POWER IC will solve the problem or not... otherwise Motherboard need to be replaced..
the cost of POWER IC replacement is INR 800 or $13.33
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he'll replace the motherboard for INR 3000 or $ 30..
so i deposoited my Phone to him and will go again in 2 hours.. to check if POWER IC replacement will fix the problem or not..
I am wondering if it will be safe to do this from unofficial reapir centre whether he will not take orignal parts of my phone internals ? however every people go to his shop.... Motherboard repalcing by him costs only INR 3000 ($50) while officialy its INR 8000($133)..
why is there so much price difference..??
IF POWER IC replacement is good idea ??
i just don't want to be in another problem...
Probably a 2nd hand board. If it were me, I'd be replacing the whole board. I wouldn't want someone fartarsing around replacing individual components on a board that size no matter how competent they claim to be. But that's up to you/how much money you're prepared to spend.
As to whether what he's going to do (replacing an individual component) will definitely fix it, how do you expect us to possibly know that ? You're the one who's met the person who's going to fix your phone/we have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of this person/their competencies. I know one thing though, in Australia, nobody who repairs Samsung phones for a living (I.E a commercial operation/business) would replace an individual component like that. Only 'spare timers' would do that.
MistahBungle said:
Probably a 2nd hand board. If it were me, I'd be replacing the whole board. I wouldn't want someone fartarsing around replacing individual components on a board that size no matter how competent they claim to be. But that's up to you/how much money you're prepared to spend.
As to whether what he's going to do (replacing an individual component) will definitely fix it, how do you expect us to possibly know that ? You're the one who's met the person who's going to fix your phone/we have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of this person/their competencies. I know one thing though, in Australia, nobody who repairs Samsung phones for a living (I.E a commercial operation/business) would replace an individual component like that. Only 'spare timers' would do that.
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well i ask a local official samsung mobile shop onwer whom we knows from years ... he said.. he is the main person in our city and everyone goes to him for repair... and he thinks he won't do such as thing..
SO i gave my phone to him..
and about power IC replacment there are some videos on youtube i checked before asking for POWER IC replacement....
so thought may be it'll work.. :/
hope for the best..
anyways thanks..
MistahBungle said:
And what exactly do you expect people here to suggest ? If the phone won't boot you can:-
*Try a jig (0.0000000001% chance of working, but try it if you like torturing yourself with false hope)
*Try a JTAG if the person who tries is prepared to do it on the basis of 'you only pay them if the JTAG is successful' (also 0.0000000001% chance of working, try this if you like torturing yourself with false hope even more)
*Replace the motherboard; 99.99% chance of successfully fixing the phone provided there's nothing else wrong hardware-wise
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What's up with the sarcasm? Pretty sure that's not what this forum is about.
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Unless you're one of the 'slow kids up the back', you'll know there is absolutely nothing anyone on a phone forum can do for a person like the OP who has a phone in that state. How do I know this ? Experience. I have seen thousands of examples on here exactly like this in 2 & a bit years. They all turn out the same whether you tell people straight up, or whether you stuff them around for two weeks trying stuff that has no chance of working.
And as it's turned out, I was absolutely correct in my initial post. I'm not a believer in having people try a bunch of stuff that has no chance whatsoever of working which builds up their hopes, only to have them end up disappointed when the 'stuff that had no chance of working in the first place' doesn't work (funnily enough ).
I'd much rather be honest with people from the outset, so they can either have their phone repaired & working again (or buy a new phone if people decide that's a better option) sooner rather than later, because I know what it's like to be without a (decent) phone for week/however long.
But you're not capable of comprehending this, are you ? You'd rather make your 2nd post on here a 'gob off' re: something you know absolutely nothing about.
So . the thing is IF POWER IC replacemet will fix the phone or not...i've done some googling and found that the POWER IC replacemet works for users..
If anyone here in this forum has tried this and successfuly saved his phone instead of replacing whole Motherboard.. ??
MistahBungle said:
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Unless you're one of the 'slow kids up the back', you'll know there is absolutely nothing anyone on a phone forum can do for a person like the OP who has a phone in that state. How do I know this ? Experience. I have seen thousands of examples on here exactly like this in 2 & a bit years. They all turn out the same whether you tell people straight up, or whether you stuff them around for two weeks trying stuff that has no chance of working.
And as it's turned out, I was absolutely correct in my initial post. I'm not a believer in having people try a bunch of stuff that has no chance whatsoever of working which builds up their hopes, only to have them end up disappointed when the 'stuff that had no chance of working in the first place' doesn't work (funnily enough ).
I'd much rather be honest with people from the outset, so they can either have their phone repaired & working again (or buy a new phone if people decide that's a better option) sooner rather than later, because I know what it's like to be without a (decent) phone for week/however long.
But you're not capable of comprehending this, are you ? You'd rather make your 2nd post on here a 'gob off' re: something you know absolutely nothing about.
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dude please if anything irritates you .. then i'm sorry..
i ts just its first time happened with me...s i am worried about my phone..
that's all :/