So...one of the big reasons that I bought my Nook Tablet was for the RAM. Yeah, the display is better than the Kindle fire, but when it comes down to it, one of the major differences is the RAM and the SD slot. When it comes to the potential for development I figured that those 2 variables would make a big difference...
How many of you did the same thing? Do you feel like it was the right decision? I follow the development thread daily, and it seems promising... Then I look at the kindle fire threads and feel sad.
Sigh...
I'm no longer sad. Thanks everyone! We'll have ICS running soon. Can't wait.
same here. we have the same sediments.
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i have a hong kong tablet ( haipad ) also with half the memory and so it does not run as zippy as the nook... my next tablet will be an iPad 3 ( just joking... )
Patience is a virtue.
Remember Kindle is sold worldwide, Nook Tablet is USA only.
Better screen sd slot and double memory is a kill feature, i bet a lot of kindle owners envy us
I live in Cyprus (Europe) and i paid $250+$48 delivery + $45 VAT and taxes and am still very happy with my buy and i dont even have warranty and am the only one to have this tablet in my Country.
I paid 250 + 16 us tax + free shipping to my DinersBox (credit card service) in Miami +10- shipping to Equator .
~ Veronica
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I considered the extra memory and microSD slot when I decided to buy the NT. Since I've owned it and played with a friend's Kindle Fire, I appreciate these two things even more, plus the better screen. The Fire doesn't zeem as "zippy" as the NT, and I like the NT reader better. The ability to boot of the microSD is something I now consider a "must have" feature, so I'm really happy I didn't buy a Kindle Fire. I came close, but actually played with both at a store the day they came out -- and promptly bought the NT. We now have two of them.
Great points. I haven't really had a chance to play with the kindle fire.. Knowing that you can tell a difference gives me confidence that I made the right decision.
I tried out both the kindle fire and the nook tablet for a little while from people who had them at my school. In the end the determining factor was the UI. They're both god awful but I like the NT's desktop approach as opposed to the carousel view. The specs were nice too but I had no idea I was going to be rooting and flashing roms on it. I think I made the right choice and I don't regret a thing.
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Being able to get the Google Play Store without any internal modification (thanks to the SD card) is huge and reason enough to have the Nook Tablet. And no hardware volume switch would drive me nuts.
That said, my Dad recently got a Kindle Fire and it ran pretty smoothly with much better non vibrating speakers (probably the thing I envy most!) I didn't detect any major difference in performance when I compared Flash video streaming so perhaps the Kindle RAM is sufficient at least for now.
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Yep... me too
I bought this for my wife. (I buy things I like and give them to people, who knows what they want as a gift). She liked it out of the box, but my primary purpose was to root and explore. It is definitely one of the best pieces of hardware available within that price range. I still haven't rooted, but the fact that I'm in this forum means it wont be long now. Can't wait to break out of the BN cage.
I bought the NT as an extra device to play with. So far I'm happy with my purchase.
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I love my NT. Played with the ipad 2 and just felt it was too bulky and hard to read from. The kindle fire had a good feel and I didn't notice a lag in speed but what at really sold me on the NT was the sd card slot. And I'm happy with the mods I've made. All in all, a great buy!
I sampled a series of android tablets before ending up with the NT. Through careful purchasing (and returns) I tried out an unmodified NT first, a Lenovo K1, a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and a Lenovo A1. I bought the final NT and rooted and installed CM7.
I find I like the 7in. form factor much more that the 10in. I miss the cameras, gps and bluetooth. I pretty much got the NT as an interim tablet, to use and play around with until the new stuff comes out later this year. I'm actually looking forward to the Win8 tablets.
slgooding said:
So...one of the big reasons that I bought my Nook Tablet was for the RAM. Yeah, the display is better than the Kindle fire, but when it comes down to it, one of the major differences is the RAM and the SD slot. When it comes to the potential for development I figured that those 2 variables would make a big difference...
How many of you did the same thing? Do you feel like it was the right decision? I follow the development thread daily, and it seems promising... Then I look at the kindle fire threads and feel sad.
Sigh...
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I wish that someone would port AOKP to the nook tablet because its much better than cm9 in its current state of development.
great joke your dual core device will become quad core
Sent From my Kindle Fire
Setupetails are Below
Cm7 Barebones+Raven's Kernel
Minimum:300 Higher 1200mhz
Go launcher Ex With MIUI Theme
Games:MC3,Fifa 2012,Real Racing 2,Stick Cricket,Gangster Rio....
Apps:Mx Video Player,JetVid,Titanium Backup,Opera Mobile,Dolphin HD,Adobe Reader
ma.da.ladla said:
great joke your dual core device will become quad core
Sent From my Kindle Fire
Setupetails are Below
Cm7 Barebones+Raven's Kernel
Minimum:300 Higher 1200mhz
Go launcher Ex With MIUI Theme
Games:MC3,Fifa 2012,Real Racing 2,Stick Cricket,Gangster Rio....
Apps:Mx Video Player,JetVid,Titanium Backup,Opera Mobile,Dolphin HD,Adobe Reader
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Allow me to escort you out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1306
He's right. Rebellious isnt going to magically make two more cores grow out of the die. Our devices will still be dual core, but they'll have HW video acceleration.
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He's right. Rebellious isnt going to magically make two more cores grow out of the die. Our devices will still be dual core, but they'll have HW video acceleration.
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Nope, we have 2 'ducati' cores that are specifically used for graphics and video decoding. Those haven't been utilized (I think) in any ROMs up till now. Ducati cores require their own special 'governor/kernel elements. Rebellos' job is to write these kernel elements and we are sending him a Nook as we speak. So we will have our normal dual core 1ghz processor with the addition of our 2 ducati cores. 2+2=4 4=quad. We've got a quad core tablet on our hands gentlemen.
Sent from my CM9 Alpha 0.02 Nook Tablet
ma.da.ladla said:
great joke your dual core device will become quad core
Sent From my Kindle Fire
Setupetails are Below
Cm7 Barebones+Raven's Kernel
Minimum:300 Higher 1200mhz
Go launcher Ex With MIUI Theme
Games:MC3,Fifa 2012,Real Racing 2,Stick Cricket,Gangster Rio....
Apps:Mx Video Player,JetVid,Titanium Backup,Opera Mobile,Dolphin HD,Adobe Reader
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See the post above this, little cheeky fire person. When were running our quadcores with our gig of ram you won't be so cocky.
Sent from my CM9 Alpha 0.02 Nook Tablet
ma.da.ladla said:
i bought my kindle fire for the look and feel and after all we have a great android section with lots of ics and cm9 roms and aokp roms plus kernel 3.0 is near perfection.we have hwa,audio,and usb otg working and we can connect flash drive,keyboard,mouse and other usb gadgets with our beloved kindle....thnx God i did'nt buy nook
Sent From my Kindle Fire
Setupetails are Below
Cm7 Barebones+Raven's Kernel
Minimum:300 Higher 1200mhz
Go launcher Ex With MIUI Theme
Games:MC3,Fifa 2012,Real Racing 2,Stick Cricket,Gangster Rio....
Apps:Mx Video Player,JetVid,Titanium Backup,Opera Mobile,Dolphin HD,Adobe Reader
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Man and through all of this you're stuck with only 8gb of space? I'm running 48gb of space on my nook, and its nice, what do you do when you're off stock kindle and don't have access to amazons cloud services? That must suck.
Sent from my CM9 Alpha 0.02 Nook Tablet
ma.da.ladla said:
great joke your dual core device will become quad core
Sent From my Kindle Fire
Setupetails are Below
Cm7 Barebones+Raven's Kernel
Minimum:300 Higher 1200mhz
Go launcher Ex With MIUI Theme
Games:MC3,Fifa 2012,Real Racing 2,Stick Cricket,Gangster Rio....
Apps:Mx Video Player,JetVid,Titanium Backup,Opera Mobile,Dolphin HD,Adobe Reader
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No flaming wars here.
We are a peaceful community.
Please respect us like we do.
Ah! and happy reading:
http://omappedia.org/wiki/Ducati_For_Dummies
http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-m/cortex-m3.php
Key features of the Cortex-M3 core are:
ARMv7-M architecture
Instruction Sets
Thumb (entire)
Thumb-2 (entire)
1-cycle 32-bit hardware multiply, 2-12 cycle 32-bit hardware divide, saturated math support
3-stage pipeline with branch speculation
1 to 240 physical interrupts, plus NMI
12 cycle interrupt latency
Integrated sleep modes
8 region memory protection unit (MPU) (silicon option)
1.25 DMIPS/MHz
90 nm implementation
32 µW/MHz
0.12 mm2
So, please search before posting nonsense.
My 2 cents
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Hi,
Just watched presentation of upcoming Toshiba Tab and Iahve to say I fell in love again (as with GT 10.1 which dissapointed me with itd SoC).
AT200 will be equipped with Ti OMAP4 4430 (1,2 Ghz) chip - the one with Netflix HD certificate. Has microSD slot, micro USB and HDMI. It is just 7,7 mm thick and very light.
What do you think....if you thinking of getting GT10.1 in few days would that make you wait?
And one more thing... Video transcoding - is it coming to an end???
I just bought my tab 4 days ago, don't want to even think about this tablet, I would've gotten it but too late now :/
Specs is one thing. What's important is real life performance and if there's any other possible flaw. Gtab actually looks not bad, but the software performance bogged it down. I'd by the time the Toshiba tablet is released, icecream sandwich may be released or close to be released. So unless the performance of the Toshiba tab is another class higher than grab, I see no point thinking too much about it.
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Looks almost identical to the Gtab! same resolution display too.... Won't be long before Apple will be taking Toshiba to the courts over this!! (or maybe Samsung will!??)
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
Serious_Beans said:
I just bought my tab 4 days ago, don't want to even think about this tablet, I would've gotten it but too late now :/
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I looked at the Engadget review and the tablet looked pretty slow to me, I might be wrong. I'm very happy with my P7510 running on a vanilla 3.1 Honeycomb (soon to run on PhantomHacker's 3.2 vanilla ROM) and I'm looking forward to see Ice Cream on it.
The thing is, we will never purchase a tablet if we wait for the next "big one" to come out. Technology changes so fast that is not worth to trouble yourself. Just enjoy the tablet and use it to death, I personally think that my Tab 10.1 is an excellent product.
Well, I am not waiting for the next big one but just for one that does not have Tegra2 inside, looks OK, has I/O's I want and 3G connectivity.
So, just to have something for now I bought iPad 1 3G few weeks ago. As it is very limited device I was waiting for it to get right price. $350 for new one on warranty is OK. Now I can wait till end of the year to get Excite or Holiday or TF2 or Xoom2.... Will see.
If you want to wait, an alternative would be the HP Touchpad for $99 (fire sale instead of $499). It runs on WebOS which is awesome and I'm pretty sure someone will make an Android ROM for it eventually. Don't expect a great quality build, though.
The Tosh looks very nice, another weapon in the Android armoury. I'm still very happy with my Samsung 16Gb Wifi.
yqed said:
If you want to wait, an alternative would be the HP Touchpad for $99 (fire sale instead of $499). It runs on WebOS which is awesome and I'm pretty sure someone will make an Android ROM for it eventually. Don't expect a great quality build, though.
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It would be all true if folks like me could actually get it.
IMHO if you want (especially 3G) tablet now, good one, for reasonable price, just to keep you going till the one you really want is out iPad1 seems like a great deal.
Does most of the stuff Tegra 2 tablets do, has 3G and new one can still be found pretty cheap (half of the zoom price for example). And form me video capabilities all almost the same.
There will be always something new and better than what's available currently in the market. By the time Toshiba excite gets released to the market, even more better tablet with awesome specs will be shown at a new tech show taking place anywhere on this planet Earth.
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galtom said:
Hi,
Just watched presentation of upcoming Toshiba Tab and Iahve to say I fell in love again (as with GT 10.1 which dissapointed me with itd SoC).
AT200 will be equipped with Ti OMAP4 4430 (1,2 Ghz) chip - the one with Netflix HD certificate. Has microSD slot, micro USB and HDMI. It is just 7,7 mm thick and very light.
What do you think....if you thinking of getting GT10.1 in few days would that make you wait?
And one more thing... Video transcoding - is it coming to an end???
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I'm feeling exactly the same as you. The size and weight of the GT 10.1 was perfect but the poor video decoding performance of the Tegra 2 and lack of MicroSD card slot was a real let down. The AT200 seems like it will be perfect for me (assuming the OMAP proc is a lot better for video decoding). I just hope it comes out real soon to the UK market. If they delay it too long then I may be put off with official specs of ICS tablets.
It is the same SOC as in new Archos G9 series (like them but they look "cheap") and they say it will "Play" anything and everything. ;-)
Dont even think about getting the tab 10.
The Ti OMAP4 4430 in the toshiba is far superior to Tegra 2.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has A9 cores with Neon processing. Tergra 2 does not have the Neon processing and will be much slower when running apps which use Neon code and alot of apps are starting to use it.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has DUAL channel memory controller. Tegra 2 only has a single channel. Since video memory is shared, dual channel will give double the memory bandwidth which is highly needed since video memory is shared from system memory.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has SUPERIOR video decoding hardware compared to tegra 2. You can finally play real HD 1080p video. Tegra 2 decoder is so slow it cant decode main and high HD profiles which is what everyone uses.
For the newcomers to this forum, don't put much stock in anything ^ this person says. He's a known troll who will say one thing in one thread and then turn around and say the exact opposite in another.
On topic, the Excite looks like a nice machine. Do we have a US release date for it yet?
ouch! Guessing no one has the actually specs on this tab yet, looks decent size wise.
mankoorb said:
ouch! Guessing no one has the actually specs on this tab yet, looks decent size wise.
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Full specs have been released.
Does it have an amazing screen like the Samsung SPLS? Screen quality along with weight is what made my decision. However im disappointed in the current state of honeycomb/tablet apps. I would expect apps like Google+ to have the hangout video support. Lack of skype video is also a huge downer. My older samsung galaxy 7 also had way better video playing support.
MMcCraryNJ said:
For the newcomers to this forum, don't put much stock in anything ^ this person says. He's a known troll who will say one thing in one thread and then turn around and say the exact opposite in another.
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This is a false statement. Never ever have I contradicted myself. Never.
MMcCraryNJ said:
On topic, the Excite looks like a nice machine. Do we have a US release date for it yet?
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No, but don't worry, I do not think Europe has one either .
And two facts:
1. OMAP is a definitely better SOC than Tegra 2 - no arguing here. The only thing at which Tegra 2 might be better (we will have to wait and see, but I doubt it myself) is energy management.
I am worried about battery life of a tablet with 1,2 - 1,5 Ghz clock.
2. It will be cheaper in US than in EU - fact.
Now, one more "issue" we might encounter by the time it is in the shops. What will be a better choice - tablet with Omap4 or Tegra3/Kal-El with 4 cores and new architecture? (unless nvidia made an intel trick or the one they do with graphic cards - Tegra 3 is two Tegra 2 cpu's on a single chip - this would suck I think)
So I have a Kindle Fire pre-ordered, but I have been reading around and now I am not sure what to do because I am considering canceling my Fire and getting a touchpad off eBay.
Which one do people around here think is the better value, when one is planning on running custom android roms.
fieldju said:
So I have a Kindle Fire pre-ordered, but I have been reading around and now I am not sure what to do because I am considering canceling my Fire and getting a touchpad off eBay.
Which one do people around here think is the better value, when one is planning on running custom android roms.
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The Fire may not be very rom-friendly, but it's not even out yet for the developers to get ahold of. Cm7 is already well on its way for the Touchpad though. If that's your main criteria, I might suggest a Nook Color even. You can find them for $150 for a good refurb and it's well-supported by Cm7. They are similar hardware wise the Kindle Fire and the same form factor (7" screen).
buy me a fire and I'll let you know.
thanks
Well, just a quick at the specs here are a few that stand out:
TouchPad
Processor: Qualcomm dual-core 1.2GHz
Storage memory: 16GB or 32GB
RAM: 1 GB
Screen: 9.7 In.
OS: WebOS/Android 2.3 dual boot
Bluetooth: Yes
Front facing Camera: yes
Accelerometer: Yes
Compass (magnetometer): Yes
Gyroscope: Yes
Kindle Fire
Processor: TI OMAP dual core 1.0GHz
Storage memory: 8GB
RAM: 512 MB
Screen: 7 in.
OS: Android 2.3
Bluetooth: No
Front facing Camera: No
Accelerometer: No
Compass (magnetometer): No
Gyroscope: No
Not sure if one processor has a real advantage over the other but I would guess the TouchPad would probably be the better of the two.
Storage and RAM the TouchPad has the clear advantage.
Screen of course the TouchPad is bigger but it depends on what you prefer.
The Touchpad has an alpha version of Gingerbread 2.3 and of course WebOS witch I like much more than I expected. You could have two operating systems in essence.
The TouchPad was designed as a more Premium device with decent hardware (thus the greater storage and RAM) the Fire was designed as a budget device with cost saving in mind.
With all that in mind I go with the Touchpad if you can keep the price at around two $200 range (give or take a little).
That my 2 cents worth.
Tp is much better hardware
On the TP you also get bluetooth and a camera.
Don't know if Touchpad's GPU really better or worse than SGX540 of Nook, but 1gb of RAM really makes huge difference, 512mb is simply not enough, esp., for tablet.
However, Touchpad is big and heavy, and the pixel density is lower. And it doesn't have a proper build of Android (alpha 2 is alpha 2, more or less stable, but jerky) yet.
Unrealwolf said:
Don't know if Touchpad's GPU really better or worse than SGX540 of Nook, but 1gb of RAM really makes huge difference, 512mb is simply not enough, esp., for tablet.
However, Touchpad is big and heavy, and the pixel density is lower. And it doesn't have a proper build of Android (alpha 2 is alpha 2, more or less stable, but jerky) yet.
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With Ice Cream Sandwich on the way. It is almost a given, that it will ported by early next year if not sooner. This should be a huge reason to go to Craigs List and buy that TouchPad!
Buy the touchpad especially if you get a 32gb version at good price. Android, even though alpha version, is working great. Should be a stable version out soon. ICS is also coming. The touchpad is a high end tablet!
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advocate2 said:
On the TP you also get bluetooth and a camera.
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Good catch, I'll add that to my list along with:
Accelerometer
Compass (magnetometer)
Gyroscope
Not to mention that the Fire might be locked down.
Guys there a deal for today at ebay.com for Nook Tablet from B&N that gives it for only 199$
yep.. couldnt refuse at that price point.. they got rid of the coupon.. so just $199 outright.. so saves on taxes if your state requires collecting it.. debated.. but i just cant say no to a deal like that.. loved the original NC.. was a solid piece of kit.. so i know i'll love the tablet..
I would get it as well but I live outside USA so.... :/
I jumped on this too. I've been following various websites for a better price and this is by far the best I've found (without having to do any pricematch/coupon shenanegans).
And the offer runs to Feb 23, apparently. Hope this establishes the new price point !
B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
moukazwina said:
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it.
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Thanks, talked me out of it in the nick of time!
moukazwina said:
B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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damnnn uhh now I don't want the nook tablet anymore
edit: there doesn't seem to be much development for Asus tabs?? ? why is there no cm9 alpha or anything I know these usually have honeycomb stock...
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Well I for one am still very happy with mine. The wifi bug isn't that bad, and I have confidence the devs will get it under control. I have no problem accessing ask the space I need, and the battery life is incredible.
Having great dev support is not something to take lightly. The guys working on the NT are doing a great job. My Samsung Fascinate didn't have a usable CM7 until it had been out for almost a year. I wouldn't put it past them to get better multi-touch support for this device as well.
All in all, it's a great device, and the great dev support makes it even better.
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moukazwina said:
B&N had to cut prices, Asus memo will be out very soon. And at $250 for a quad-core, with camera, GPS, and BlueTooth, it will eclipse the Nook Tablet and all bargain tablets.
Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't call this a "bargain". NT cannot recognize more than 2 points on the screen at any time, the wifi is buggy at best, the internal memory is almost not accessible. All in all, it's a good ereader. And that's it. The Kindle Fire is a far superior device. My only grip with the KF is that its memory is limited to 8 gigs and no microSD extension possible.
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I thought the Kindle Fire only recognized 2 points on the touch screen as well. At least thats what many review for the game Nova (kindle fire edition) on the Amazon app store say. http://www.amazon.com/Near-Orbit-Va...1?s=mobile-apps&ie=UTF8&qid=1329581136&sr=1-1
Hi couple of questions before i decide to take the plunge
1)Have the devs found out how to use the 12GB space that BN owns
2)How easy is this to root?
thanks!
I ordered it two days ago, can't wait to get it in the mail now.
The B&N - not a good deal at $250?
Oh, come on. There's always something "new" in the horizon - better, faster and cheaper (ie, the Quad Core Asus). And if you wait long enough for the Asus, something *even* better will be "just around the corner".
The B&N is, for me, an*incredible* deal. I own a Galaxy SII, a Motorola Atrix (heavily modded) and I got an iPad 2 at the office. I can't believe how much I got when I bought my Nook for $250. I'd definitely do it again. It's *not* only a good eReader - it's a tremendous game machine (I haven't yet found a single game with any sort of lag), a great browser, a perfect multimedia device... the list goes on and on. IMHO, I'd rather have the Nook than my iPad, it's far, far more useful right now (rooted, with GoLaunch EX and minor tweaks). CM7 will only make things better.
Its problems are trivial. No true multitouch? Why would it be a dealbreaker? Wi-Fi bug? I've seen it every once in a while - my HP laptop is far, far worse. What else is there? Nothing. Again, to me, it delivers far more than I ever expected out of it.
I've seen cheaper tablets around - some chinese junk running at 1.5 GHz (LOL). They look cheap and have no warranties whatsoever. For me, the NT and the KF are what tablets are all about, and I'd rather own either one of them than wait for something that may or may not come out soon (the Asus Quad Core).
fjhuerta said:
The B&N - not a good deal at $250?
Oh, come on. There's always something "new" in the horizon - better, faster and cheaper (ie, the Quad Core Asus). And if you wait long enough for the Asus, something *even* better will be "just around the corner".
The B&N is, for me, an*incredible* deal. I own a Galaxy SII, a Motorola Atrix (heavily modded) and I got an iPad 2 at the office. I can't believe how much I got when I bought my Nook for $250. I'd definitely do it again. It's *not* only a good eReader - it's a tremendous game machine (I haven't yet found a single game with any sort of lag), a great browser, a perfect multimedia device... the list goes on and on. IMHO, I'd rather have the Nook than my iPad, it's far, far more useful right now (rooted, with GoLaunch EX and minor tweaks). CM7 will only make things better.
Its problems are trivial. No true multitouch? Why would it be a dealbreaker? Wi-Fi bug? I've seen it every once in a while - my HP laptop is far, far worse. What else is there? Nothing. Again, to me, it delivers far more than I ever expected out of it.
I've seen cheaper tablets around - some chinese junk running at 1.5 GHz (LOL). They look cheap and have no warranties whatsoever. For me, the NT and the KF are what tablets are all about, and I'd rather own either one of them than wait for something that may or may not come out soon (the Asus Quad Core).
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Well said i think exactly as you do and not because the a new tablet with more specifications with same or better price is round the corner means the quality will be good and the development for it will be fast, so far with the nook tablet devs have done an amazing job far before than what i ever expected. There is always people that do not appreciate the work that is being done and on top of that they ask for more, unfortunately XDA has got many of those, its a shame.
I think the nook tablet is an investment and i feel very happy with it, i will for sure enjoy it for a while and once another good deal like the NT comes out with decent hardware (not Chinese junk as @fjhuerta say) and green lights for development maybe then i would think in upgrade.
~ Veronica
openallnight said:
Hi couple of questions before i decide to take the plunge
1)Have the devs found out how to use the 12GB space that BN owns
2)How easy is this to root?
thanks!
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1) yes
2) very easy...check put the development forum and you'll see the one click root. In a few days CM7 will be released in greater fashion than previously. In a month or so the nook tablet and its downfalls will be completely absent. The devs have been incredible with this device and it's only getting better and better. I purchased mine on release day and my love for it grows by the day. I've owned the kindle fire as well...but I did return it because it lacked the ram power of the nook tablet, and I could certainly tell(yes I was rooted on it as well).
Trust your gut. In the long run, I think if you choose the nook tablet, you'll be extremely happy.
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Got my tablet for $150 on craigslist WITH a 16gb SD card and a case included! *steal*
Bought my girl the NC off eBay for $150. Not bad I guess.
NT rooted with CM7
NC rooted with ICS CM9
I think I like the NC better now lol. Will the NT ever see ICS?
alaw said:
Got my tablet for $150 on craigslist WITH a 16gb SD card and a case included! *steal*
Bought my girl the NC off eBay for $150. Not bad I guess.
NT rooted with CM7
NC rooted with ICS CM9
I think I like the NC better now lol. Will the NT ever see ICS?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440438
Got mine too
though as ever as soon as I buy something they announce the next version
I wonder if this deal involves the new model of NT with only 8G of internal memory (instead of 16G)? This model can also be purchased from the BN website:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-tablet-barnes-noble/1104687969?ean=9781400501779
take note of the 512mb ram as well so not only is the 8 gig model less storage space...but also down to 512mb system ram. I was hoping they'd keep the 1 gig ram but just lower the 'hdd' shame not :/
Hello folks,
I have a question regarding the Nook tablet. I was making a delivery to a customer this morning and he has a Nook 16GBTablet. We got to talking and he indicated that he was going to sell it since his wife didn't use it. It looks like new physically and I am considering obtaining it for one of my grandsons, basically so I can get my Nook Color with CM7.2 on it back from him. Is the Nook Tablet a worthwhile barter or would something else be better? I bought a Samsung Tab2 7" tablet for a younger grandson a couple of weeks ago and he really likes it, But I don't think I can get a deal like I got for the Samsung. I only gave $169 for it new, still sealed in the box and I doubt I will find another deal like that as I'm pretty sure the fella sold it to me for less than he paid for it. I'm getting off track here, what I need to know is if the Nook Tablet is even a worthwhile Andriod tablet or would I be better off waiting a bit for the new, different brand tablets to come out?
Check swappa.com and see the prices for the tablets. Maybe you get to catch a good deal, I bought my Samsung captivate there and loving it. The nook is worth it in my opinion and the deal breaker is the sdcard slot . Nexus 7 temps me but no sdcard slot no way I buy it, anyways for what I do the nook tablet is enough. Tho I know kids love games and probably that is what they do in their tablets more than anything and the nook does a decent job with kids games, heavy games not that good.
Tablets with Tegra 2 chip is gamers glory and with dual/quad cores is a dream but your budget is not enough.
Good luck!
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The nexus 7 is ( in my humble opinion ) the product of the year. The other major producers were surprised and knocked back on their butt. Now they have to answer back with something equal or better. Then there is the argument that it is 'not' just the product but the 'exosphere' along with the product. Lastly, the Nook is a fine performing tablet.
The Nook Tablet, was made to be a reader, but the xda community saw it to having more potential then BN wanted it to. The Nook Tablet has gone far from becoming a full-fledged reader into a usable, 7-inch Android tablet wonder. The Nook was at the bottom along with it's brother in technology, the Kindle Fire, as it was a reader, but it has pushed to the top, and now is one of the most popular tablets out there. I have a Nexus 7 myself, and it is amazing, but was at the top from when it was born. The Nook, and the great devs of this forum, had to work it up there, while BN did not help even once, except for the kernel. We even have our own nearly working kernel, thanks to Rebellos, Chris, and Kuzma. We have succeeded in reaching the latest Google experience, Jelly Bean AKA Android 4.1, and the devs hope to keep working and catching up with Google. As the problems slide off the radar, more devs have appeared. The Nook may not be a Nexus 7, but it sure damn does the job like it.
From what I've heard/read/seen I could make such list of tablets in this class, from best to slighty worse
1) Nexus7
2) Nook Tablet
3) Kindle Fire (note this has got better Android support than NookTab for now <points at Hashcode>)
4) Nook Color
There are for sure others, but I don't know others.
Also, if you want to use it as overpowered Android device someday - get 16GB version, it has got 1GB of RAM, while 8GB ver got 512MB of RAM and it might be not enough for some games, more browser tabs, etc.
Thanks for the opinions.
If I and the owner decide to work out a barter I may do the deal. Cash purchases are not many, but I do quite a bit of bartering and it is a 16GB Tablet. Have a 14 almost 15 year old grandson that could make good use of it I believe. Don't know how savvy he would be to rooting the Nook though he is really good with computers, he fixes all my messups.
When the reboot bug gets squashed expect lovely things coming along.
I get 1.9Mpixel/sec on this test on default clocks.
http://www.ziilabs.com/products/software/mandelmark.php
0.1Mpixel/sec more than Galaxy nexus o.o
Imagine 2x1.2ghz and gpu from 308mhz to 384mhz that can be easily be achieved without any problems as our platform 2.3ES defaults to 1.2ghz.
Is not implemented yet because of the 1st priority is to fix that reboot bug!
Also new drivers for graphic card are release from ti DDK1.9 i guess more speed will be possible also with them implemented
http://www.omapzoom.org/?p=device/t...it;h=ad17249821001789f159a5d5c542302e5f38cd2e
When our developers finish with this board you will have nothing to be jealous from Nexus7.
You would be able to play anything you throw at it
Edit: 2.2 Mpixels/sec on DDK1.9
from the press release- new 7" and a 9"- the OS is upgraded to a custom android 4.0 version....hopefully the original nook tablets will get this upgrade so we can figure out the random reboot etc problems
7" 199for 8gig 229 for 16gig- 243ppi 1440x900 reso
9" 269 for 16gig and 299 for 32gig 253ppi @1920x1280 reso
http://www.barnesandnobleinc.com/press_releases/9_26_12_nook_hd_us.html
09/26/2012
Barnes & Noble Launches NOOK® HD and NOOK HD+, Lightest and Highest-Resolution 7-Inch HD Tablet and World’s Lightest Full HD Tablet
Incredible Reading and Entertainment Like Never Seen Before on 7- and 9-Inch Tablets
Designed for Both Personal Use and the Whole Family to Share – Like Having Multiple Devices in One
NOOK HD Offers World’s Highest Resolution Display Ever on a 7-Inch Media Tablet Starting at Only $199
NOOK HD+ is Lightest, Lowest-Priced Full HD Tablet Ever Starting at Only $269
Unbeatable Values for Top Quality Tablets and No Distracting Ads Coming to the US and UK This Fall; Pre-Order Starting Today at NOOK.com and Barnes & Noble Stores
New York, New York – September 26, 2012 – Barnes & Noble, Inc. (NYSE: BKS), the leading retailer of content, digital media and educational products, today introduced NOOK HD and NOOK HD+, the lightest HD and full HD tablets. The super-fast and lightweight 7-inch NOOK HD and 9-inch NOOK HD+ feature must-see displays for superior reading and entertainment and an instantly personalized tablet experience for each family member. In fact, NOOK HD boasts the world’s highest-resolution ever on a 7-inch tablet and NOOK HD+ rivals the industry-leading tablet’s display. Starting at the low prices of $199 for NOOK HD and $269 for NOOK HD+, nearly half the cost of the leading large-format tablet, both products deliver an amazing value for customers, with no annoying ads. With more than three million books, a large selection of magazines and apps, and now with newly launched NOOK Video™ and NOOK Catalog™ content, NOOK HD and NOOK HD+ offer virtually endless reading and entertainment at customers’ fingertips. Both are available for pre-order at www.nook.com and Barnes & Noble stores for customers to enjoy beginning in early November.
The fantastic new 7-inch NOOK HD and 9-inch NOOK HD+ are packed with favorite tablet features that the whole family will love:
run a customized android 4.0
Wow, nice.
You be honest, after Microsoft pumped all that money into the nook platform at the beginning of the year, I seriously expected them to be running Win 8. Glad to see them sticking with Android.
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The "real" technical spec please. . Or do we have to wait ? . ( i went looking all over their website . . . )
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I wonder if they've gotten over being "terminally stupid" ?
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I read here it has bluetooth. http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/nook-hd-whats-changed/ . . I cannot double validate this blip !
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Here they talk about the cpu. . . http://www.anandtech.com/show/4413/...pecs-powervr-sgx544-18-ghz-dual-core-cortexa9
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The "real" technical spec please. . Or do we have to wait ? . ( i went looking all over their website . . . )
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I wonder if they've gotten over being "terminally stupid" ?
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I read here it has bluetooth. http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/nook-hd-whats-changed/
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Hopefully this means the Tablet will get bumped to ICS shortly after they ship these, though they may not to encourage sales of the new tablets (I know I won't buy a new one if the old one gets ICS).
Not interested considering how locked down they made the nook tablet. Still very happy with my 16gb, thanks to the awesome devs here
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Not interested considering how locked down they made the nook tablet. Still very happy with my 16gb, thanks to the awesome devs here
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That was my feeling. Sideloading? Probably not.
Unless of course you root the thing.
It would be nice for BN to make a tablet that's useful without rooting.
Love my Nook Simple touch for reading.
Well Let me tell you something based on this:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4413/...pecs-powervr-sgx544-18-ghz-dual-core-cortexa9
1.Two ARM Cortex A9 MPCores @ 1.8GHz per core Nice but they compare it 1GHZ not 1.2GHZ that we can have
2.Two ARM Cortex-M3 cores We have those also!
3.SGX544 GFX Core running at 384 MHz (If you Read: TI OMAP 4xxx SoC GPU Comparison it states PowerVR SGX540 also is capable to go to 384 MHz) I want to be clear SGX544 is a better GPU but 540 can play anything you throw at it currently speaking.
4.Hardware composition engine with dedicated 2D graphics core. We have those also!
5.Display subsystem. what to do it when you dont have hdmi out.
6.Dual-channel, 466 MHz LPDDR2 memory. We have Dual-channel, 400 MHz LPDDR2 memory and i bet if we give it some more volts we can reach those 66mhz or maybe 33mhz in worse case.
7.Complete pin-to-pin hardware and software compatibility. Anyone with a hot air station and a faulty NT HD?
http://www.techhive.com/article/2010597/barnes-and-noble-nook-hd-tablet-elevates-the-game.html
Will give you more info about the device. Such as
Barnes & Noble joins the high-definition tablet party and does so in style with the introduction of a pair of new tablets, the 7-inch Nook HD and the 9-inch Nook HD+. With an emphasis on display quality, usability, and lighter weight—at surprisingly competitive prices—Barnes & Noble's 2012 tablets help the company maintain, and expand on, its value tablet history. Both tablets are due out at the end of October, with prices starting at $199 for the 8GB Nook HD, and going to $269 for the Nook HD+.
I spent some quality time with both tablets, and came away with a first-hand perspective on how the two compare to one another and to their increasingly crowded competitive set. It's important to note up front that, like Amazon, Barnes & Noble uses a custom Android build. This means that you're locked into loading apps from the Barnes & Noble app store, rather than from Google Play. And it means that the tablet lacks both Google certification and the Google services that go along with certification (such as the Gmail app, Google Maps, and apps like YouTube, Google Books, or Google Video). Furthermore, Barnes & Noble chose to skip integrated GPS or cameras; Amazon, at least, offers a front-facing camera on the Kindle Fire HD (but not a rear camera).
None of that may matter in the end, if all you want to do is read, browse the Web, do e-mail, or watch videos. In fact, this is why Barnes & Noble made the choices it did as to what to include and what to exclude. An internal survey of tablet owners by Barnes & Noble showed that 75 percent used the tablet for reading, with the next most popular activities being Web browsing, social networking, email, and video, in that order.
The Nook HD—$199 with 8GB, $249 with 16GB—picks up on the foundation set by the current Nook Tablet, which will stay in the market at $179 for an 8GB model. Clearly, Nook HD targets Amazon's Kindle Fire HD and Google's Nexus 7 tablet, as well as any fabled and future Apple 7-inch class tablet to come. Meanwhile, the Nook HD+, with its larger display, aims at standard Android tablets, at Amazon's Kindle Fire HD 8.9, and at Apple's iPad. The HD+ is available in two versions: 16GB for $269, and 32GB for $349.
Massive resolution
The Nook HD has a stunning resolution for its size: 1440 by 900 pixels, which works out to 243 pixels per inch. If this sounds like an unusual resolution, that's because it is: Barnes & Noble went to display makers and dictated the spec it wanted, rather than simply accepting what was on offer.
The result of this innovation looks amazing: Text was smooth on books as well as the general navigation screens, and images looked terrific, with impressive color balance and detail.
As with its predecessor, contrast appeared strong, and glare was minimal since Barnes & Noble uses optical bonding on its displays, as it has since the introduction of the Nook Color nearly two years ago.
The Nook HD+ doesn't push the resolution bar in the same way, though. The 9-inch display carries a 1920-by-1280-pixel resolution, which works out to 256 ppi—practically the same as on the 8.9-inch Kindle Fire HD 8.9, and just shy of the Apple iPad's 264 ppi. Barnes & Noble says it chose the 9-inch display for its 3:2 aspect ratio, which the company describes as “perfect” for use with magazines and books.
Inside the tablets
Both tablets have Wi-Fi, and both add Bluetooth this time around, a notable omission from the original Nook Tablet. Both will also have an HDMI dongle available to connect to the tablet's new 30-pin dock connector; while I prefer integrated HDMI instead of an extra-cost dongle, at least the dongle has a full-size HDMI port, and not a Mini- or Micro-HDMI port that could require an extra cable.
Inside, the tablets each have Texas Instruments' dual-core OMAP 4470 processor. The Nook HD's processor runs at 1.3GHz; the CPU in the Nook HD+ runs at 1.5GHz.
The tablets have a microSD card slot that supports up to 64GB of storage; and unlike the previous model, all the space on the memory card can indeed be used to store your own content. Both tablets include the proprietary charger in the box. Additional chargers cost $20.
Where Nook HD fits
The new Nook HD and Nook HD+ are set to pose a challenge not only to their obvious Amazon Kindle Fire HD competition, but to all tablets. These well-designed models feature innovative design, and have some interesting interoperability plays through Barnes & Noble's new Video Store offering. Each of these tablets is backed by attractive pricing, a strong feature set, and a high-performance display. Traits that make them well-positioned to attract shoppers' attention this holiday season. The $269 Nook HD+ is the best value, and is a particularly intriguing proposition for consumers who are willing to stray from the Apple iPad juggernaut.
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i might get the 16gig hd tablet.
IF they kept the same bootchain that the NT currently have, rooting should be a snap.
lenardo said:
i might get the 16gig hd tablet.
IF they kept the same bootchain that the NT currently have, rooting should be a snap.
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huh ? ? ?
In my humble opinion, ( what they did in the first NT ) a "locked and signed boot loader" is the MOST nastiest thing a company can do. . I believe it shows that they think that the dev community as the enemy. . So that makes mr. william lynch a first class ass in my book. . . So the one hundred ninety nine dollar question is, will the NT HD have the same nastiness ? ? ? . . My guess is yes... probably worse.
While I absolutely agree that locking the bootloader on the open platform is a nasty thing to do, especially when you didn't develop the platform yourself. From looking at the Nook UI, I think they at least spend a lot of time polish that. Maybe I wouldn't mind using it even if the BL is locked as long as gaining root and sideloading and install GAPPS can be done painlessly and assuming Nook will continue devloping it platform and roll out update in a timely manner.
Won't waste my time on another nook although glad they keeping micro sd slots
I got cm9 no issues, and hopefully we can cm10 soon also. Ilk stick witg my 16gb tablet. If I need a new one ill get a nexus (might do the same for phone this year) or a transformer. You can get a really good tablet around the same price these days.
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You can get the older Tegra 2 powered ASUS Transformer TF101 for about $230-$250 the newer models all cost $400+ tho without the doc but factor in the dock at about $99 and the price goes up quite a bit out of the range of these things.
While the specs sound good but not sure it's worth it. I think the original NT 16g is just as good. I'm running CM10 with few SOD. Battery drain is still bad but I just plug it in at night.
Nikkiel
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NikkieL said:
While the specs sound good but not sure it's worth it. I think the original NT 16g is just as good. I'm running CM10 with few SOD. Battery drain is still bad but I just plug it in at night.
Nikkiel
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Agreed. . If you upgrade, you go from a 'good' screen to a 'very good' screen and then you get bluetooth. . And then that's it ! ! !
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I think they should have tossed in a front facing camera ( for skype ) and a functional ( real OTG stuff ) usb . . .
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I cringe at what ( damn crap ) they're gonna put into the boot loader.
Yeah the new ones are running Ompa 4470s while the current crop run 4430s so not a large boost in cpu but they are adding a larger screen an OS upgrade and bluetooth for about the same price as the current nook tablets. So they are basically refreshes to the current hardware. I may pick up the kindle now that they have front facing cameras becuase that would be helpful to stay in touch with people. But at the moment I need a new PC ontop of which we will be moving in the next couple of months so money is tied up in that plus I may switch from boost mobile to T-Mobiles new unlimted 4g plan for $30. so that going to need a different phone then what I have so money is just really tight right now to upgrade the tablet. My current tablet works perfectly fine with me I just wish the screen was bigger at around 8.9 inches like the new Nook Tablets HD+ and Kindle Fire HD+s are.
4470 is way better than 4430. It has a way better GPU also. I think b&n choose wise on cpu`s this time. But it seems new crop comes with way more secure boot loaders.
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Perhaps this all boils down to a generation barrier. I can't imagine why someone felt a lock bootloader was necessary to protect their advertising interest. Isn't it better to be the best and let the customer come flocking to your door?
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huh ? ? ?
In my humble opinion, ( what they did in the first NT ) a "locked and signed boot loader" is the MOST nastiest thing a company can do. . I believe it shows that they think that the dev community as the enemy. . So that makes mr. william lynch a first class ass in my book. . . So the one hundred ninety nine dollar question is, will the NT HD have the same nastiness ? ? ? . . My guess is yes... probably worse.
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Repost from B&N Community forum-
I own a Nook Table 16G and have gone through the agony of losing app sideloading when OS was upgraded over the air. I finally moved to CM7 SD version and started seeing the light. If not for CM7, I wouldn't have been able to download from Google Play many apps which are still not yet available in Nook Store after almost a year. I've never missed Nook OS and its built-in apps.
I will not invest another dime to B&N's device before I know for sure that: (1) I can root it and block update OTA completely, and/or (2) I can SD boot it into a full Android device.
By the way, I'm proud to say that throughout my 10-month ownership of Nook Tablet, I haven't spend my money buying any B&N product (books included) - as my boycott to B&N. Sorry, B&N!
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